Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article , Peter Young wrote: > However the (anonymous, German) author of that version, heavily modified > from John's original, specifically asked that questions or comments about > this version should not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps. > I suggest we take it there, where I will be pleased to try to explain how > to configure that version, which involves changing some if its obey files. > That is, if it's still of interest to anyone. It's certainly off-topic > here. As John Williams pointed out, it seems to be Frank de Bruijn. The aconet website, which is the home of Fetch_NS has a little bit of Dutch at the top & has the brilliant CrypStore, which I know is one of his apps. http://aconet.org/tools/index.php On delving a bit further into Fetch_NS, I need to alter the settings file to tell it where my Netsurf is stored to make it work best. As suggested, I'll now take this over to c.s.a. apps. Thanks for help so far. -- Chris
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Brian Jordan wrote >> But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it >> forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new >> one. So I have to complete the job manually. > Try having your de-archiving program (SparkFS or whatever) loaded and > on the icon bar before you run FetchNS. This improved the success rate > to 100% here (admittedly on a sample of only 3 downloads) after having > exactly the problem you describe; I imagine something in FetchNS times > out while waiting for the archive to be opened. Thanks - that appears to be the solution - with a sample size of one:-) -- John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
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On 19 Mar 2013 John Williams wrote: > In article , >Peter Young wrote: >> However the (anonymous, German) author > Frank de Bruijn - Dutch, surely? Thanks for the double correction! >> of that version, heavily modified from John's original, > because I prefer to see what's going on myself and make my own decisions I can see that, but you have a lot of technical knowledge that a lot of us don't have. Some of us like to keep things simple. >> specifically asked that questions or comments about this version should >> not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps > at my suggestion, IIRC. Wrath is best avoided! You probably recall correctly. However, druck is conspicuous by his absence when threads go off-topic these days. Maybe marriage has softened him up a bit :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article , Peter Young wrote: > However the (anonymous, German) author Frank de Bruijn - Dutch, surely? > of that version, heavily modified from John's original, because I prefer to see what's going on myself and make my own decisions > specifically asked that questions or comments about this version should > not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps at my suggestion, IIRC. Wrath is best avoided! John
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
On 18 Mar 2013 Chris Newman wrote: > In article , >John Rickman Iyonix wrote: >> Michael Drake wrote >>> In article <532e67d218cvj...@waitrose.com>, >>>Chris Newman wrote: I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. >>> Out of interest, why don't people just visit >>> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D >>> And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they >>> want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software? >>> At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it >>> themselves. >> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current >> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has >> changed. > Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the > latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have > I missed something? Probably. I have that version, and it does delete the current version, and unpack and run the new one. However the (anonymous, German) author of that version, heavily modified from John's original, specifically asked that questions or comments about this version should not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps. I suggest we take it there, where I will be pleased to try to explain how to configure that version, which involves changing some if its obey files. That is, if it's still of interest to anyone. It's certainly off-topic here. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In message <1850912e53.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk> John Rickman Iyonix wrote: [snip] > But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it > forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new > one. So I have to complete the job manually. Try having your de-archiving program (SparkFS or whatever) loaded and on the icon bar before you run FetchNS. This improved the success rate to 100% here (admittedly on a sample of only 3 downloads) after having exactly the problem you describe; I imagine something in FetchNS times out while waiting for the archive to be opened. Anyway it isn't too hard to download the archives from the Netsurf site and manually install the program and I have reverted to doing it that way. -- Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 8 RISC OS 6.20
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Allan Bennett wrote on 18 Mar: > Try here: > http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/ > Scroll to the bottom for the latest release (ie highest number) - > wouldn't it be nice if that was at the top? It IS at the top if you use the slightly different link that Michael Drake gave earlier today: http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk See you at Wakefield? www.wakefieldshow.org.uk April 20
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <1850912e53.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Chris Newman wrote > >> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current > >> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has > >> changed. > > Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the > > latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have > > I missed something? > That is the same as mine - Fetch_NS version 2.10 of 17-12-2012 which > does what I said above. Before deleting the old version it also quits > any NetSurf that is running then restarts the new one. > But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it > forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new > one. So I have to complete the job manually. How odd. I see you seem to be on an Iyonix so RiscOS 6? Could that make a difference? I can't see how. I wonder what behaviour others get. I've re-read the idiots guide & can't see much to help but I will have a look at where I put wget/ curl. -- Chris
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
Chris Newman wrote >> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current >> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has >> changed. > Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the > latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have > I missed something? That is the same as mine - Fetch_NS version 2.10 of 17-12-2012 which does what I said above. Before deleting the old version it also quits any NetSurf that is running then restarts the new one. But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new one. So I have to complete the job manually. -- John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx Ein nasser Vogel fliegt nicht bei Nacht - Das ist der Sinn des Lebens.
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article , John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Michael Drake wrote > > In article <532e67d218cvj...@waitrose.com>, > >Chris Newman wrote: > >> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. > > Out of interest, why don't people just visit > > http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D > > And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they > > want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software? > > At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it > > themselves. > Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current > version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has > changed. Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have I missed something? -- Chris
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <86bb852e53.supe...@albenito.eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk>, Allan Bennett wrote: > Surely? Please don't call me ...
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In message <532e84b530stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk> lists wrote: > In article <2b13812e53.supe...@albenito.eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk>, >Allan Bennett wrote: >> * Drag the blue !Netsurf icon over your existing copy if you have >> one... > No. Create a new dated directory with the latest version in and start > using it. If you experience problems go back to the one you were using > previously. But that can be done by deleting the one in use and opening the previous zip file. Having just one operating version 'visible' in the filer means it works automagically on boot-up or when a URL on my pinboard is activated. !Fetch_NS works like this, doesn't it? No need for extra directories - the numbered zip files serve that purpose. Surely? -- Allan Bennett
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <2b13812e53.supe...@albenito.eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk>, Allan Bennett wrote: > * Drag the blue !Netsurf icon over your existing copy if you have > one... No. Create a new dated directory with the latest version in and start using it. If you experience problems go back to the one you were using previously. -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emails http://www.asciiribbon.org
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In message <9a8e7b2e53.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> Peter Young wrote: > On 18 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: >> Peter Young wrote >>> Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked >>> for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot >>> of sense to me, perhaps! >> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/ > Thanks, I had in fact found that. I'm sure it means something to > somebody, but as I rather expected ... > I'll leave it all to the experts, and will continue to be grateful to > the expert developers. I see what you mean. Try here: http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/ Scroll to the bottom for the latest release (ie highest number) - wouldn't it be nice if that was at the top? Click on the blue writing (notice the pointer changes to a little hand with a rude pointy finger) which will download the zip file Position caret before the release number in the Destination box and press Ctrl-K which deletes superfluous parts of the file name Drag the zip icon (top of the download window) to the already opened filer window on your Hard Drive When it's located, Double-Click on it to open Drag the blue !Netsurf icon over your existing copy if you have one... Couldn't be simpler... or could it? Hope that helps :-) -- Allan Bennett
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
Peter Young wrote > On 18 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: >> Peter Young wrote >>> Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked >>> for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot >>> of sense to me, perhaps! >> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/ > Thanks, I had in fact found that. I'm sure it means something to > somebody, but as I rather expected ... Just look down the idle column for green text. If it is on the same line, click "NetSurf Browser" and read all about it, and who done it:) -- John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx No sé nada, y no estoy seguro de éso
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On 18 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Peter Young wrote >> Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked >> for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot >> of sense to me, perhaps! > http://git.netsurf-browser.org/ Thanks, I had in fact found that. I'm sure it means something to somebody, but as I rather expected ... I'll leave it all to the experts, and will continue to be grateful to the expert developers. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
Peter Young wrote > Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked > for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot > of sense to me, perhaps! http://git.netsurf-browser.org/ john -- John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx Tout a été dit, mais comme personne n'écoute, il faut toujours répéter.
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <532e691ca1t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <532e67d218cvj...@waitrose.com>, >Chris Newman wrote: > > I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. > Out of interest, why don't people just visit > http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D > And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they > want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software? > At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it > themselves. Quite so. -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emails http://www.asciiribbon.org
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
On 18 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Michael Drake wrote >> In article <532e67d218cvj...@waitrose.com>, >>Chris Newman wrote: >>> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. >> Out of interest, why don't people just visit >> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D >> And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they >> want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software? >> At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it >> themselves. > Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current > version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has > changed. I totally agree with this reason for using Fetch_NS. Mind you, I think there are more than one version of it floating around; the one I have says it's version 2.10, but I can't remember who wrote this. It's certainly very different from the original version. A note in the !Run file says, "This is a seriously modified version of John Williams' Fetch_NS." > FWIW I always look at the development site to see what has changed. If > NS has changed and the change is likely to be relevant to RISC OS then > I run the fetch program. Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot of sense to me, perhaps! > ** on a bad day the fetch works but the fetcher stops saying it can't > find the file it has just down loaded. (...vita brevis est) Never had that happen here! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
Michael Drake wrote > In article <532e67d218cvj...@waitrose.com>, >Chris Newman wrote: >> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. > Out of interest, why don't people just visit > http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D > And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they > want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software? > At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it > themselves. Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has changed. FWIW I always look at the development site to see what has changed. If NS has changed and the change is likely to be relevant to RISC OS then I run the fetch program. ** on a bad day the fetch works but the fetcher stops saying it can't find the file it has just down loaded. (...vita brevis est) -- John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx "Poetry is a MUG's game" - TS Eliot
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In article <1c002746d5f.0485d...@davehigton.me.uk>, Dave Higton wrote: > > From: cvj...@waitrose.com > > Sent: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:13:35 + (GMT) > > To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org > > Subject: Find !Fetch_NS > > > > Hi, > > > > I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. Can anyone point me in the right > > direction > > please. There was nothing in the help file to assist. > It's at http://aconet.org/tools/index.php Thanks, Dave. -- Chris
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <532e67d218cvj...@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman wrote: > I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. Out of interest, why don't people just visit http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software? At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it themselves. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
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> From: cvj...@waitrose.com > Sent: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:13:35 + (GMT) > To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org > Subject: Find !Fetch_NS > > Hi, > > I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. Can anyone point me in the right > direction > please. There was nothing in the help file to assist. It's at http://aconet.org/tools/index.php Dave FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more!
