Re: Testing required: visited link performance

2013-05-17 Thread Tim Hill
In article <534d692c69t...@netsurf-browser.org>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:
> In article <534d633ccb...@timil.com>,
>Tim Hill  wrote:

> > Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
> > Build #1177: 13.0s
> > Build #1178: 13.7s
> > Build #1179: 22.6s

> > Site: http://slashdot.org/
> > Build #1177: 8.5s
> > Build #1178: 8.4s
> > Build #1179: 25.0s

> The #1179 results are odd.  Was that with JavaScript on, or with the
> computer busy doing something else?

On.

On the one hand I didn't think anything else was going at the time but on
the other I can't repeat those times. Now 10s and 13.2s.  Timings are
representative of several attempts in all cases.




Re: Testing required: visited link performance

2013-05-17 Thread Michael Drake
In article <534d633ccb...@timil.com>,
   Tim Hill  wrote:

> Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
> Build #1177: 13.0s
> Build #1178: 13.7s
> Build #1179: 22.6s

> Site: http://slashdot.org/
> Build #1177: 8.5s
> Build #1178: 8.4s
> Build #1179: 25.0s

The #1179 results are odd.  Was that with JavaScript on, or with the
computer busy doing something else?

-- 

Michael Drake (tlsa)  http://www.netsurf-browser.org/



Re: Testing required: visited link performance

2013-05-17 Thread Tim Hill
Hope this helps.

System: Iyonix
URL file size: 66k

Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
Build #1177: 13.0s
Build #1178: 13.7s
Build #1179: 22.6s

Site: http://slashdot.org/
Build #1177: 8.5s
Build #1178: 8.4s
Build #1179: 25.0s




Re: Testing required: visited link performance

2013-05-17 Thread Jean-François Lemaire
On Friday 17 May 2013 13:06:07 Michael Drake wrote:

> Please could people test builds #1177 and #1178 on a variety of pages and
> us know how page load times vary?  I am particularly interested to hear
> from people using old hardware such as RiscPCs, Iyonixes, Ataris, etc.

I quickly tested the Atari m5475 builds and didn't notice any difference in 
performance between the two. So I didn't test any further :-) Good work!

Cheers,
JFL
-- 
Jean-François Lemaire



Re: Testing required: visited link performance

2013-05-17 Thread Michael Drake
In article
,
   Chris Young  wrote:

> except for the Wakefield show link, where I think the initial URL
> isn't being remembered by NetSurf, as the link redirects

Yep, it doesn't know about redirects.  Supporting them probably requires
quite a big change.

Thanks for the feedback.

-- 

Michael Drake (tlsa)  http://www.netsurf-browser.org/



Re: Testing required: visited link performance

2013-05-17 Thread Chris Young
On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:06:07 +0100, Michael Drake wrote:

> It was originally implemented several years ago, but disabled since it had
> a detrimental effect on performance.

IIRC it took minutes to display even the Google homepage when this was
initially enabled.  I'm happy to report it is not having any
perceivable impact on performance at all now.

System: SAM440EP (600MHz PowerPC)
URL file size: 50K

Site: http://www.google.co.uk
Build #1177: 0.6s
Build #1178: 0.6s

Site: http://news.google.co.uk
Build #1177: 6.6s
Build #1178: 6.8s

Site: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk
Build #1177: 5.1s
Build #1178: 5.2s

Site: http://www.netsurf-browser.org
Build #1177: 2.2s
Build #1178: 2.1s

The visited links don't display differently on Google because of the
annoying redirect links they use these days, which change on every
reload.  It is visibly working on the NetSurf homepage however -
except for the Wakefield show link, where I think the initial URL
isn't being remembered by NetSurf, as the link redirects immediately
to http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/index.php

Chris



Testing required: visited link performance

2013-05-17 Thread Michael Drake

I've just enabled NetSurf's visited link handling.  This allows links that
have been visited to be rendered differently to unvisited links.

It was originally implemented several years ago, but disabled since it had
a detrimental effect on performance.

Since then we've made many improvements to the browser, so performance may
be more acceptable. However, most of the developers use fast hardware now,
so performance issues are harder to spot.

Please could people test builds #1177 and #1178 on a variety of pages and
us know how page load times vary?  I am particularly interested to hear
from people using old hardware such as RiscPCs, Iyonixes, Ataris, etc.

We also need to know the size of your URL file.  On RISC OS, if you shift
double click on the !NetSurf application directory and run OpenChoices,
your URL file should be in the directory that opens.

So a helpful report could take the form:

System: Iyonix
URL file size: 246K

Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
Build #1177: 8.6s
Build #1178: 9.0s

Site: http://slashdot.org/
Build #1177: 5.4s
Build #1178: 5.7s


You can test whatever pages you like.  Pages with more links on them
require more searching of the browsing history.  Also, the more you use
NetSurf, the bigger the history to search (and the bigger the URL file).

Note that the absolute page load times can vary anyway, due to network
issues or other activity the computer is doing, so average timings over
several runs are best.

Cheers,

-- 

Michael Drake (tlsa)  http://www.netsurf-browser.org/