Re: puzzling email (getting OT)
On 20 Oct 2011 Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: [snip] It's a long time since I used Pluto, but my recollection is that it doesn't treat HTML attachments any differently to any other type of attachment: You double click on it, a temporary copy is saved and that's filer_run. It doesn't parse the HTML in any way to see if any other attached files are needed by it, so they aren't saved alongside it - and therefore, as you say, the images references aren't rewritten. The bottom line, for users of Pluto, is that if you want to see attached images displayed in the HTML, you'll need to save and manually edit. (Remote images should be fine, of course). Vince, I should be glad of further clarification. My understanding is that MessengerPro doesn't behave significantly differently from Pluto when it comes to handling HTML, but maybe I'm out of date because MessengerPro has been subject to further development whereas Pluto hasn't. I see that you use the former and should be interested to learn if that too is subject to the same problems the affect Pluto, please. It may well be crunch time for me entailing a reluctant swap to MessengerPro. MPro show HTML e-mails as an attempt to render the HTML in the body of the message (usually quite a bit of a mess), with the HTML as an attachment. You can then click on the attachment to load it into a browser. It's a long time since I used Pluto, so I can't remember if it does that; I do remember control-G to load the HTML into the message window, and if MPro can do that, I haven't found out how. One thing that MPro does, and I don't think Pluto does, is that if you reply to or froward an HTML message, no matter if there are graphics as attachments as well as the HTML, the resulting message is received on the Dark Side as a standard HTML message. I haven't been able to check this myself, but I've never had the usual Windows-users' whinge that they can't read the message, as one gets when one replies bottom-posted :-) Anyway this is getting off-topic here; should it be continued on the MPro list? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: puzzling email (getting OT)
[snip] Anyway this is getting off-topic here; should it be continued on the MPro list? Not really, Peter. Well, not yet anyway! For a start I don't use MessengerPro. I suspected I would get a response similar to yours. The problem is that I frequently get messages that are treated by Pluto as HTML attachments, plus graphics files also as attachments. Most of these are dross and don't concern me too much, they just don't matter, but some are commercially important and I should very much like to see them rendered correctly when loaded into NetSurf, so it is functionally a cross application problem, as well as a cross platform problem. I got into a real tangle with a business person. Neither of us could read/render correctly each others HTML files, sent to and from each other via email, cross platform, and it mattered. The situation was extremely frustrating and was never resolved. Tempers were starting to get a bit frayed. Regards Brian
Re: puzzling email (getting OT)
In article 5225151bf7bbai...@argonet.co.uk, Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: I got into a real tangle with a business person. Neither of us could read/render correctly each others HTML files, sent to and from each other via email, cross platform, and it mattered. ... but this is still the province of the mail reader/sender software and not a browser problem (unless the html contains important content as javascript which isn't being rendered). -- Chris Johnson
Re: puzzling email (getting OT)
On 20 Oct 2011 Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: [snip] Anyway this is getting off-topic here; should it be continued on the MPro list? Not really, Peter. Well, not yet anyway! For a start I don't use MessengerPro. I suspected I would get a response similar to yours. The problem is that I frequently get messages that are treated by Pluto as HTML attachments, plus graphics files also as attachments. Most of these are dross and don't concern me too much, they just don't matter, but some are commercially important and I should very much like to see them rendered correctly when loaded into NetSurf, so it is functionally a cross application problem, as well as a cross platform problem. I got into a real tangle with a business person. Neither of us could read/render correctly each others HTML files, sent to and from each other via email, cross platform, and it mattered. The situation was extremely frustrating and was never resolved. Tempers were starting to get a bit frayed. Yes, as in the bit that is snipped, MPro seems to be able to reply to or forward HTML messages in a way that Windows users can read. It sounds as if this may be the deciding point. Best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
