nettime banning access to a yahoo grp.

2003-09-29 Thread saugat datta

hi everybody

i have been greatly disturbed by this discrimination by nation taking pride 
in calling itself the largest democracy in the world. indian government has 
asked all isp's in the country to ban access to the yahoo grp called Khyhum. 
it is an grp. with anti india sentiments and talks about creating a separate 
state in the north east not a new concept is it. i m from meghalaya though 
lure of greener pasture has kept me in the power capital.

we all know such bacha efforts against voices in the net can only slow down 
the process. never uproot it. neither does it seems to bring any attention 
towards this part of india called north east.

i support the cause as i saw it with my own eyes the discrimination held 
against, never was north east allowed any entry into the mainstream india. 
now again what is india? a much sophisticated version of mother russia and 
china.

no matter how much media directed inflation of patriotism occurs fact 
remains the same we all want to be separate until theres a definite spinal 
cord commoness.

i just wanted you guys to know this thanks for time.

saugat peace n respect

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nettime N5M4

2003-09-29 Thread snafu
Next5Minutes4
An International Festival of Tactical Media
September 11 - 14, 2003, Amsterdam
a report by Snafu - 09/27/2003
http://bbs.thing.net


As the curtain fell on the conclusive meeting of Next5Minutes4 - 
http://www.n5m.org - the feeling was widespread that tactical media (tm) 
are in the midst of fording a swift river. It is hard to say what tm will 
find on the other bank of the river because riding the currents of these 
precarious times already seems quite an engaging exercise. By definition, 
tactical media are unstable, in permanent crisis, malleable, and adaptable 
to mutating circumstances. Nevertheless, the previous edition of the 
festival which gave birth to tm and followed its early steps was held more 
than four years ago when two major global events were still to occur: 9-11 
and the outbreak of the Seattle movement. Between these two, the collapse 
of the new economy undermined not only a business model but also a way of 
building sustainable networks and techno-social infrastructures.

As a start - symbolically coinciding with the second anniversary of 9-11 - 
N5M dealt with this deeply changed panorama by giving voice to Witnesses 
and Testimonies from the hot spots of the Middle East. NGOs like Rawa, the 
Revolutionary Association of Women of Afghanistan (http://www.rawa.org) and 
groups like Big Noise Films, Voices in the Wilderness and Witness expose to 
the public eye what mainstream media tends to forget, and train local 
practitioners to make their own media.

The festival began with a synthesis of the three key concepts that inspired 
it: the reappearance of The Public; the struggle to appropriate tactics and 
languages; and the deployment of these struggles in deep local contexts 
-- issues that suggest a drive to return to the real and a shrinking of 
the space dedicated to aesthetic research over technological. In short, 
reflection on tm focused mainly on how to exchange and deliver information 
effectively in times of extensive privatization and restrictive regulation 
of the public sphere.

It was no accident that the only playground addressed nationally was the 
Italian one. In a state characterized by an incredible concentration of 
media and political power (media mogul Silvio Berlusconi being the Prime 
Minister), in the last two years the birth and growth of a rhizome of 
community television stations connected to social movements represents a 
case study and laboratory for the international community. These 
telestreets (the name given to the microstations like Orfeo TV, Candida, 
and Urban TV), cover a range of a few hundred square meters in 
neighborhoods in cities like Rome and Bologna by exploiting the shadow 
cones of other stations and exchanging their productions through a national 
video database (see http://www.ngvision.org). Based entirely on volunteer 
labor, these entities have to face the endemic scarcity of financial 
resources and the complete privatization of the airwaves by bigger players.

The Airwaves belong to the People and now the People want them back

The Laboratory Italy found a non-explicit relationship with the panel 
Radio Space: Wireless in Your Psyche. Starting with reflections on the 
experience of Klubradio, the Berliner Pit Schultz recalled that being 
successful with streaming media means gaining more audience, but this 
increases the consumption of bandwidth and results in linear growth of the 
transmission costs. If this model was still viable in the days of the 
dotcom mania, it now looks completely outdated. This is why, Schultz said, 
The long waves of radio always return while the peaks of other media go up 
and down at a faster pace. Once again the airwaves will become the real 
battleground for reaching end users while the internet is seen more as an 
infrastructure to exchange content remotely.

This battleground was also invoked by Arun Metha, President of the Society 
for Telecommunications Empowerment, an NGO committed to the diffusion of 
low-cost technology in the poorest and most remote areas of India. Metha 
presented a project organized with the women of an Indian village to build 
a low power community FM radio transmitter. The power of the homemade 
transmitter was so low (15 milliwatts) that under Indian law it did not 
require any authorization. Nevertheless, the government sent the village a 
cease-and-desist injunction. Metha replied that Since the same power is 
used for cordless microphones, is the government to be considered breaking 
the law any time it holds a conference? And should all karaoke bars in the 
country also be banned?

This story touches on an issue central to many of the conference's panels 
and workshops: true deregulation in favor of public, non-exclusive use of 
the airwaves. This notion of a digital commons is also embraced by Eric 
Kluitenberg, one of the N5M organizers. As the Dutch critic writes in the 
festival's Readme text: The commons refers to a resource, to common land, 
to 

nettime Re: markets, states, associations (was: reverse engineered freedom...)

2003-09-29 Thread Ryan Griffis
hi Brian,

 The theoretical point of looking at human
 organization in terms of 
 those three poles 

thanks for the response - and yes it is helpful. (wish
i could go to Geneva for the WSIS too)
at any rate, i do find the tri-polar model useful, but
i still question it's universal application (not that
you were doing that). The relationships between the
poles seem highly mutable in such a way that the model
becomes more and less useful at different times. and
the definition of each pole highly transformative
according to who's interest is at stake. For example,
the US New Deal policies could be seen as restrictive
on markets or as a tactic of preservation of them by
the state. but that example only holds for the
historical and ideological conditions of the US. And
with the commercial interests invested in military
ventures in the US, which pole is dominant there? or
maybe you're not positioning situational polar
dominance, and that is my misreading. but don't many
of the desires shaping all of the poles transgress
those boundaries? or is the polar model a way of
looking at the dominant systems for materializing
desire?
i'm thinking of how the model is useful for tactical
activist organizing and production, how are those
desires figured?
if you have the time, your comments are appreciated.
Thanks.
ryan


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Re: nettime radio transmitters: technical help needed

2003-09-29 Thread Chris Welsh
 Hi nettime,

 I am looking for some help and practical information about radio
 transmitters.

Well I know a little about radio transmitters from class, I'm a novice
mechatronics major who happens to be studying electronic design this
semester.  I am attempting to build the Small Radio Telescope and am trying
to become as erudite as possible with a lot of new nomenclature and
equations
to me so I can write grants to build it and maybe start a program of sharing
SRT and eventually optical around the country for smaller colleges.

http://web.haystack.mit.edu/SRT/  Small Radio Telescope project at MIT
http://srtcr.blogspot.com My blog on it

 The problem now is the technical side. I have a degree in industrial
 engineering (electronics), but since my graduation in 1994 I never did
 anything with it and now about 95% of my electronic knowledge has
 evaporated, while the remaining 5% is kind of stale. However, I could
 understand how to build a small radio-station if someone explained it to
 me, or if I found a good handbook, and I know how to solder and stuff.

Ok, you are going to want something else if you are going to leave it other
people's hands.  You want to have someone (maybe your gf) help you create
some operator manuals that include full schematics so if it is ever in need
of repair or if someone wants to duplicate your efforts down there.  This is
the reason my school does not have a SRT anymore.  One semester in the
1980's it broke and the person who made it had left no information about it
so the electronics teachers at the time cannibalized it for parts.

 Apparently, taking into account the local circumstances, the best thing
 would be an AM-transmitter of about 40 to 100 Watts, although FM could
 work too.
 Of course, it is very important that all this is low-cost. A kit would
 be nice, instructions how to build one from scratch would be better.

May I suggest something else if you are going to leave it a remote area
without a lot of access to reatail electronics technology?  Buy some digital
multimeters, cheap ones with 9v batteries.  Like maybe 4-5 of them to leave?

 3. A good guide/howto (for dummies) on the net would be great.
http://www.electronics-tutorials.com for electronics

http://www.frn.net/tech/  The free radio network workshop (Radio Pirates,
AR)

 4. Some references to handbooks, guides, etc. I can buy would be greatly
 appreciated too.
May I suggest you buy a refresher used electronics book with the multisim
software package in it?  Working on virtual cicruits is a lot easier than
soldering when you want to learn something.

Site seems down but they have a list of books in multiple languages
http://www.electronicsworkbench.com/

I don't know any used college bookstores online in europe but Look 8*)

 5. Any help whatsoever, ideas, remarks, experiences, are very welcome.

I wish you luck.

 Thanks in advance,
 Bart

No problem

chris

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Re: nettime ars lecture on software / art / culture

2003-09-29 Thread Marc Lafia
Andreas

Thanks for posting your excellent talk. An open question/thought follows.

I was reading an interview with Annette Insdorf, a film scholar at Columbia
and in it she quotes Truffaut saying: For me a great film is one that
simultaneously expresses an idea of the cinema and an idea of the world. I
think this rings true with your comments on software art. Today we would
call such work performative - it performs the medium in which it is produced
and the context in which it is received.   For Nicolas Bourriand the art
work produces social relations in the conception and distribution of work.
In his book, 'Relational Aesthetics, he states, 'For art, no technique or
technology is a subject.' Of course techniques and technologies produce
social relations, ideological points of view, at the very least, ways to
perceive - is it possible that certain formal investigations have a
criticality not so much on the surface but procedurally, not wrapped up so
beautifully, performatively and conceptually, as the 'scezda' virus - but
think of, for example, the very incisive trope of the breakbeat, a radical
inscriptional technique, which opens up vistas of new materials and
perceptual sounds, consider certain spatial writings, mez, database, glitch,
computation - there must be a moment before these things become technique
and are a necessity, coming from an urgency, that can only be found in and
through material (can we say extend the notion of mechanical here to
material in Kittler's sense?) and all social dimensions that such materials
carry - think only of Schoenberg's tonal system, how radical this was in its
conception, and when picked up by others became more mannered and
domesticated as it becomes a technique. Soon the technique becomes
innocuous, convention, a standard, invisible, deadening and as such artists
pick up on this and make this invisible become seen again. Technique then at
times results from an urgency to open entirely new spaces of thought,
perception and subjectivity and at other times a different arsenal of
technique, perhaps more deconstructive, is used to open up and re-invigorate
the social perceptions and relations therein.




 [this is the script of the talk that I gave on the last day of the ars;
 some of the themes discussed here over the last days resonate, and I
 thought it might be interesting to chip it in; apologies for the loose
 style, but it had to work as a talk way at the end of a 5-day conference;
 comments welcome, of course; -ab]
 
 Notes on the cultural dimensions of software and art
 
 Andreas Broeckmann, Berlin
 
 (lecture manuscript; ars electronica 2003, CODE, Software and Art 2, 911.03)
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Re: nettime Request to Nettime to be part of DISTRIBUTED CREATIVITY online forum with Eyebeam

2003-09-29 Thread yuri zero
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From: Nato Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: nettime Request to Nettime to be part of DISTRIBUTED
CREATIVITY online forum with Eyebeam



 I am fairly new to the net time list but this debate strikes me as
 interesting and not unusual. I work at a museum and sympathize with the
 constraints and difficulties that institutions have in presenting
 history as well as producing criticality. All too often, I find radicals
 (of which I do consider myself one) shooting themselves in the foot


ok, not to mention shooting others, blowing up buildings, and other radikal
type stuff

with

 unreasonable demands for representing themselves. Often times this leads
 to their non-inclusion which can be useful,


non-inclusion ain't exclusion, what's the use in being radikal if you're
gonna be included- not all that useful being a radikal anyway...


but often times is a result
 of exhaustion on the part of both parties.

let's not move too fast


 I think Eyebeam is a good place if not somewhat inconsistent at times.
 They have supported some very interesting projects.

interesting for you, of course, but then again they may be pretty boring
stuff


 (I think to them
 hosting the WTO protest workshops). I don't think their request for the
 participation of Net Time is all that bizarre. If a misunderstanding is
 in place, that shouldn't be a call for everyone to get on their high
 horse

how about a donkey, would that be ok?

and demand that people try to understand this wildly bizarre thing
 called a de-centered community (is it really so strange?). I think the
 danger is in trying to fit more 'centered' modes of presenting projects.
 That is to say, having individuals represent the group in a manner which
 offends those participating.


ok now, who's offended-- everyone speak up...


Particularly, if people who contribute to
 the group feel they are somehow inexplicity supporting the careerist
 ambitions of their so-called representatives. This dynamic of resentment
 and confusion regarding representation has commonly plagued art
 collectives. The absolutely critical resistance to authorship finds a
 problem when confronted with those who need a spokesperson.

 My personal feeling is having representatives for such an expansive and
 loosely knit group like net time (I mean am I one myself for being a
 part for only 2 months?) is just a bad idea. It inevitably will set up a
 problematic hierarchy that has no ability to be checked, deliberated on,
 or worked out. Instead, Eyebeam should suggest something that provides a
 forum for everyone involved and highlights its extraordinarily disparate
 nature.

 I don't find it all that suprising that Eyebeam would like to
 incorporate the interesting work that happens on Net time. And I don't
 think simple attacks on the fact that Eyebeam has to raise money in
 order to survive is very helpful (in reference to the post by Brett
 Shand).

 But then again, I suppose the bigger question this issue begs
 is: is the net time crew capable of making a collective decision? My
 hopes would be 'no'.


I say Yes



But if that is the case, then I suppose asking net
 time any questions and hoping for a single answer is ridiculous too.
 Hmmm... Quite a quandry.

yes, quite ridiculous...

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Re: nettime Request to Nettime to be part of DISTRIBUTED CREATIVITY online forum with Eyebeam

2003-09-29 Thread Michael Connor
Beth,

Practically speaking, you're asking two questions: one, will members of the
Nettime list have anything to say about whatever topic you propose for your
online forum? and two, can you redistribute the responses? The answers:

1) You are free to propose any discussion topic to this list that you like.
Sometimes nobody picks up on it, sometimes you can't get people to shut up.

2) If you want to follow US copyright law, you must seek permission from
each individual writer before redistributing any single post from Nettime,
either online or in print. Even though Nettime (prescriptively?) adds
guidelines for re-use at the bottom of each post on this list,
redistribution rights still rest with the individual author (for both
commercial and non-commercial purposes). This is why there will never be a
Slashdot book, for example - much of the content on that website was written
by anonymous authors and the rights can not be secured.

Luckily we all have each other's email addresses, so although your idea is
not impossible, it will create a lot of administrative work. For the Eyebeam
publicity materials, I don't think you could legitimately announce that
Nettime is an 'invited participant'. Maybe you could say 'this month in the
forum, our spotlight is on nettime' or something like that. But if you want
to use that, you'll have to ask for my permission ;-)



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nettime Report: Creative Labour and the role of Intellectual Property [Part 1/2]

2003-09-29 Thread Ned Rossiter
[here's a report on creative labour that I've written for the 
fibreculture list. It may be of interest to nettimers in light of the 
recent DISTRIBUTED CREATIVITY threads.  For those of you after 
Executive summaries only, here you go:

Reflexivity and Empirical Research
Creativity - What's in a Name?
Intellectual Property and Creativity
Intellectual Property and the Labour Contract
Intellectual Property and (Dis)Organised Labour
Multitudes and the Exploitation of Network Sociality
Immaterial or Disorganised Labour?
Conclusions

For those after something more substantive, read on]

[PART 1/2]

Report: Creative Labour and the role of Intellectual Property

By Ned Rossiter, September 2003


Here's my report based on the survey I conducted for the fibrepower 
panel initiated by Kate Crawford and Esther Milne - Intellectual 
Property-Intellectual Possibilities (Brisbane, July 03).  I wanted to 
explore in some empirical fashion the relationship between 
intellectual property and creative labour.  Why?  Largely because 
such a relationship is the basis for defining what is meant by 
creative industries, according to the seminal and much cited mapping 
document produced by Blair's Creative Industries Task Force (CITF). 
Despite the role IP plays in defining and providing a financial and 
regulatory architecture for the creative and other informational or 
knowledge industries, there is remarkably little attention given by 
researchers and commentators to the implications of IP in further 
elaborating conceptual, political and economic models for the 
creative industries.  There is even greater indifference towards 
addressing the impact of exploiting the IP of those whose labour 
power has been captured: young people, for the most part, working in 
the creative and culture industries.  Angela McRobbie's work is one 
of the few exceptions.

At a different level, I was curious to see how a mailing list might 
contribute in a collaborative fashion to the formation of a research 
inquiry in which the object of study - creative labour and IP - is 
partially determined by the list itself.  Finally, after levelling 
critiques at various times and occasions against what Terry Flew 
(2001) identifies as the 'new media empirics', I thought it necessary 
to engage in a more direct way with this nemesis-object: what, after 
all, can a new media empirics do and become when it is driven through 
what I've developed elsewhere (or rather, syphoned from larger and 
older media theory, informatics and philosophy debates) as a 
processual model of media and communications? (Rossiter, 2003b)  I'll 
address this question in the concluding section of this report.

As I noted in an earlier paper (Rossiter, 2003a) posted to fc: The 
list of sectors identified as holding creative capacities in the CITF 
Mapping Document include: film, music, television and radio, 
publishing, software, interactive leisure software, design, designer 
fashion, architecture, performing arts, crafts, arts and antique 
markets, architecture and advertising.  The Mapping Document seeks to 
demonstrate how these sectors consist of '... activities which have 
their origin in individual creativity, skill and talent and which 
have the potential for wealth and job creation through generation and 
exploitation of intellectual property' (CITF: 1998/2001).  The CITF's 
identification of intellectual property as central to the creation of 
jobs and wealth firmly places the creative industries within 
informational and knowledge economies.

In posting the survey questionnaire to the list, I was interested in 
ascertaining the following:

1. the extent to which respondents perceived their primary activities 
(i.e., activities other than eating, sleeping, watching TV, having 
sex, substance abuse, etc -- though I guess many would argue that 
they are indeed primary activities, and perhaps also creative ones!) 
to correspond with creativity, however that term might be 
understood (n.b., the survey synopsis clearly framed creativity in 
relation to the Creative Industries discourse, so the latitude for 
interpreting the term creativity was relatively circumscribed).

2. whether a very partial mapping of the fc network produced results 
similar to the sectors identified in the CITF Mapping Document. 
Whatever the results, I was interested in what they might then say 
about national, regional or State manifestations of the creative 
industries: is Australia's CI the same as the UK?  Is there a 
temporal factor at work? (i.e., given the time of development, 
incubation, etc., would a mapping exercise produce different results 
depending of when and how it was conducted?)

3.  to establish whether respondents perceived or understood an 
extant relationship between their labour and intellectual property.

4.  to find out whether IP in the workplace makes work a political issue.

At the time of the survey, the fc list had just over 700 subscribers 
(June, 03).  All