Re: An Infinite Seance

[Florian Cramer]

Am Samstag, 27. Januar 2007 um 20:03:22 Uhr (+0100) schrieb olia lialina:
 
> The situation had continued for a long while, especially in film
> museums and on film festivals. But now, at last, short films are
> starting to claim some space of their own. Lately, several new ways of
> screening short films and videos have come into existence:
> 
> * each film screened in its own separate room; endless loop; two
>   or more projections.

It is interesting how this form of presentation blurs the boundaries
between the "theatrical" medium film and the "home" medium video.
While you explicity speak of "film", it has also become the dominant
installation form of video-based art work, for example at Documenta
XI. Perhaps the oldest materialization of this presentation form were
early 1960s/1970s porn movies, 16mm short films that were screened as
endless "beaver loops" shops in sex shops, as first prototypes of porn
video viewing booths.

But on to another point of your essay:

> For these and many other reasons, interactive installations never
> turned into anything significant. Curators were happy to get rid of
> them as soon as the time was right, which happened about a year and
> a half ago. 

I wish you were right, Olia, but can't see it happening. On
the contrary, "interactive" installation art seems to thrive,
dominate "media" festivals and continue to be the canonical form of
institutional electronic art all the while net art continues to be
declared "dead". Before it was - temporarily - hacked by net artists,
the field of "media art" was essentially an outgrowth of 1960s/1970s
cybernetic audiovisual computer art. This art never had much, if any,
relevance and credentials in the field of contemporary art. Since
net artists rather came from "actual" art than institutional media
research lab practice, they temporarily changed the game, much to the
frustration of those in electronic art who were more interested in
high tech "interactivity", "artificial intelligence", photorealistic
graphic simulations etc. Yet it seems to me as if these old paradigms
have been restored, and the old cybernetic fallacies, with their
confusions of interaction with machine feedback and cognition with
computation, continue to rule at least in European institutional
electronic arts.

Florian

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Google deprecates SOAP API

[Florian Cramer]

http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/12/google_depreciates_SOAP_API.html 

[This means the end of most published "Google Hacks" and, most
importantly, countless Google-based net art works. Another example why
relying on proprietary software and services will bite back developers
eventually.]

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Sodom Blogging - "Alternative porn" and aesthetic sensibility

[Florian Cramer]

kursbuch publisher's annual
"Das heimliche Auge", and at nerve.com.

Both feminist tendencies, anti-porn and pro-porn, disagree on the
therapy but not on the diagnosis that mainstream pornography is sexist
and disgusting.[6] What is often overlooked, especially in Europe,
is that Dworkin and MacKinnon by no means demanded that pornography
be prohibited or censored.[7] Instead, their campaign acknowledges the
power of sex and of the obscene imagination - the power that virtually
all varieties of alternative pornography play down as a game without
consequences, rationalize and repress. Indie porn replaces the rhetoric
of artificiality in classical mainstream pornography - artificial body
parts, sterile studios, wooden acting - with a rhetoric of the authentic:
instead of mask-like bodies normalized using make-up, wigs and implants,
the authentic person is exposed and protruded not physically, as in
Gonzo porn, but psychically. Indie porn websites, comprehensive links
to which can be found at www.indienudes.com, no longer emulate the cover
aesthetics of porn videos and magazines but have switched to a standard
format including diaries, blogs and discussion forums where users
communicate with models and models with each other in a rationalized
discourse characterized by a pretense of mutual respect, while the
private person is at the same time in her "authentic" totality exposed
to the public view, following exactly the logic traced by Foucault in
the development of the penal system from the physical mutilation of the
offender to the modern panoptic prison's psychological terror.

With this personalization and psychologization, Indie porn is making
the logical next step in a progressive unmasking of the pornographic
actor that began in the 1980s with the switch (recounted at epic length
in the movie "Boogie Nights") from 35 millimeter porno-theater flicks to
cheap video, continued in Gonzo anal sex porn, and culminates in Internet
pornography. Gonzo porn is even more subversive and transgressive than
Indie pornography in that it subliminally satisfies and thus installs
gay desires within the heterosexual mainstream: anal barebacking, women
styled like drag queens, and - in contradistinction from most 1970s and
1980s porn - offensively sexualized male stars, like Rocco Siffredi, in
the camera's focus. What Gonzo stages as a radical poiesis and white-trash
body performance in the vein of "Jackass", is turned in Indie porn into
a sentimentalized confessional discourse before a paying audience cast
as voyeuristic confessors, with constant assurances of the bourgeois
normalcy and, irrespective of its rating, the playful harmlessness of
the sex on view.

Just as Indie pop is a specious alternative to the music industry's
mainstream, and in reality based on the same business model, which is
being protected by ever more absurd copyright laws, preventive technology,
cease-and-desist notices and searches of homes, Indie porn is not at
all "independent" but in fact commercialized and sealed off from free
channels, even positioned in opposition to them: precisely because the
mainstream merchandise is easily available on peer-to-peer exchanges,
pornography, just like pop music, now sells only by virtue of difference,
including difference from itself.

Florian Cramer



Notes:

 1. "Sex ist das Spiel der Erwachsenen", interview in Der Tagesspiegel,
 7/2/2006.

 2. Cf. Mark Terkessidis, "Wie weit kannst du gehen?", in: Die
 Tageszeitung, 8/18/2006.

 3. Peter Gorsen, Sexualästhetik, Reinbek 1987, p. 481 ff.

 4. Porn and art are fused in Otto Muehl, who on the one hand anticipated
 the imagery and rhetoric of mainstream and scat fetish porn with his
 formulaic sexist and voyeuristic material Actions, and on the other
 hand took part in the making of the sexploitation movies "Schamlos
 [Shameless]" (1968) and "Wunderland der Liebe - Der große deutsche
 Sexreport [Wonderland of Love - The Great German Sex Report]" (1970);
 a similar path was taken in 1981 by pop singer and future sex guru
 Christian Anders in his movie "Die Todesgöttin des Liebescamps [The
 Love Camp's Goddess of Death]".

 5. It is a less well-known fact that Hustler publisher Larry Flynt
 started a porn magazine called Rage, styled as "Alternative pop" in its
 photography, typography and copy, already in 1997; its publication
 was soon discontinued. Joanna Angel, host of Indie porn website
 burningangel.com, now works for Flynt's "Hustler Video".

 6. Or they are fused, as in Catherine Breillat's movies, in the synthesis
 that sexuality's being per se sexist can be made a source of infernal
 pleasures.

 7. See Barbara Vinken's preface in Drucilla Cornell, Die Versuchung
 der Pornographie, Frankfurt/M. 1997.

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Re: Racism and Sexism at Citizendium

[Florian Cramer]

Am Dienstag, 28. November 2006 um 11:44:57 Uhr (-0700) schrieb Kali Tal:
 
> I am withdrawing from Citizendium because of the racist and sexist  
> policy put in place by Larry Sanger, who claims that the disciplines  
> of Ethnic Studies and Gender Studies do not belong in the list of top  
> level categories in Citizendium, or as individual categories at all.   
> Sanger has unilaterally decided that all race and gender topics  
> should be split up under traditional disciplinary headings, so that  
> there will be, for example, a sub-group of "African American  
> Literature," and "African American History," but no category -- at  
> any level -- in African American studies, and he embraces the same  
> tactic of fragmenting other Ethnic Studies and Gender Studies.  The  
> fact that his broad strokes of exclusion primarily effect women and  
> minority scholars does not seem to matter to him.

Two remarks: 

- If one participates in a project that is structurally conservative (as
  an elitist, anti net-cultural counter-project to Wikipedia), it's
  hardly surprising if it's also structurally conservative in its
  content.  If there is a lesson to be learned for feminist, queer
  studies, African American studies etc. intellectuals, then the one
  that they should finally look beyond conservative academia and
  traditional publishing.  Wikipedia, in fact, is such an alternative,
  and would overcome much of its quality problems if more academics and
  intellectuals would bother to contribute to it. (That said, there also
  are amazingly good Wikipedia articles on philosophical and humanities
  topics.)

  It always struck me as odd that, for example, you need to attend
  expensive ivy league universities in order to study with the best
  scholars in that field, and that minority students at inexpensive
  state schools hardly have a chance of studying with reputed scholars
  in those fields. (Back in the 1990s, as an exchange student in the
  USA, I struck me - from my European point of view - as plainly obscene
  that self-declared Marxists taught at Duke University.)

- To have a conservative understanding of displicines is one thing, 
  to be racist and sexist another. Many feminists, in fact, are opposed
  to disciplines like Women Studies because they consider them ghettos
  and find it more important to "hack", or rewrite, disciplines like
  literature and history altogether. But even as a conservative, Sanger
  shouldn't be called a racist unless he claimed that, for example,
  African American history didn't belong into Citizendium at all. 

Florian

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Re: "in association with nettime.org"

[Florian Cramer]

Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2006 um 06:09:10 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Geert Lovink:

> > A one-day conference in association with nettime.org  
> > which explores the geographical and social structures of workers in 
> > the Creative Industries and particularly the New Media sector

How can a conference be made "in association with nettime.org" without
any poll on the list? All the more when it perpetuates that terribly
stupid meme of the "Creative Industries"? Or is this event a fraud and
refers to nettime without any authorization?

It it time for some tactical media use of ubermorgen.com's "Injunction
Generator" against the organizers of that event? 

-F

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Re: The Creative Common Misunderstanding

[Florian Cramer]

Hello Paul,

sorry for replying a bit late. Yes, indeed I claimed that many artists
and activists seem to look into free licenses under the wrong assumption
that it permits them use of third-party copyrighted or trademarked
material. This is based on my first-hand experience, among others as
one of the copy editors of Lawrence Liang's "Guide to Open Content
Licenses", panel moderator at "Wizards of OS" and participant at other
arts-related festivals. Lawrence's book contains (on page 28) the
example of a journalist who seeks to illustrate his book with movie
stills, but wouldn't solve his copyright trouble by putting the book
under a free license. This was not some hypothetical story, but based on
an actual exchange with a film journalist who had read the draft of the
manuscript in the precise hope that it would point him to a solution of
his problem. After we explained the matter, he lost interest in free
licensing altogether. 

At a "Wizards of OS" panel on "art as anti-copyright activism" I
moderated in 2004, many artists in the audience thought of free licenses
as a solution for using third-party work without jeopardizing
themselves.  Their interest in the Creative Commons was less motivated
by contributing to a cultural movement of sharing (like, for example, in
Situationism or the Luther Blissett project before), but by wanting to
avoid legal risks for use of third-party material.

There is a wide-spread false belief that, by declaring your work
"non-commercial" under CC, your use of third-party material becomes fair
use. Some people think this applies to any third-party material, some
that it only applies to material from the Internet, others that it
applies to any material licensed under CC, and they're all mistaken.

> as you observe this is indeed an issue with all free licenses (be it
> content oriented ones like free art license or any of the creative
> commons licenses or software licenses like the GPL or BSD style
> licenses). Creative Commons has to my knowledge never claimed that it
> would (attempt to) remedy the problem your are describing. 

Perhaps not in the fine print, but (as I wrote) its web site literally
says right on top, on a big button linking the license menu page:
"Publish your stuff, safely and legally". 

The attributes "safely and legally" blatantly mislead people into the
false beliefs I described. Nothing is "safely" or "legally"published by
putting it under a CC (or any other) license.  There is, as a matter of
fact, no "safe" publishing in the Internet or elsewhere.

> That is why Creative Commons is fairly agressive in stating that the
> rights granted by the licenses come on top of fair
> use/dealing/copyright exceptions rights and do not limit them.

But that is just as much or even more misleading in the above context;
people who aren't legal experts may easily think that they _receive_
freedoms on top of fair use rather than _grant_ them to others.

> also i think it would be productive to finally stop comparing open
> content licenses to open source/free software licenses. admitted CC
> states that they have been inspired by these licenses, but inspired
> does not mean that these licenses that govern a clearly demarcated
> field of endeavor (writing and reusing code) with a limited range of
> players (coders, software and hardware companies) can be directly
> compared to open content licenses which have the ambition to be usable
> for the entire field of cultural production. 

I don't see software as a limited field (or form) of contemporary
culture, but only as one that historically preempted political issues
that apply to digital information in general. In the case of computer
games  - to take only the most popular example and not start talking
about software art, programmed digital art, generative image and sound
work...  -, the distinction of software and audiovisual arts collapses
completely. 

The irony is, for example, that hardly any of the images, sounds,
videos, texts etc. licensed under CC can be legally used in an open
source/free game.  

> the standards set by licenses like the GPL as a social contract that
> attempts to model behaviour of a relatively homogenous group of
> individuals and mareket actors cannot be met by licenses that lack a
> clearly defined group of actors granting rights and using material
> covered by them.

Since the GPL defines user rights, the group of actors it applies to in
fact includes everyone using GPLed software - who make use of the 
GNU philosophy of freely copying the program and using it for any
purpose. If you use the Firefox browser, then you are part of that
group.

> Parallel distribution might make perfect sense when dealing
> with software code, where distributing binary code is essential
> in order to make it useable for non-developers and the parallel
> distribution of source code ensures the freedoms to study and to
> modify. However you cannot simply transfer this mechanism to the world
> of 'content'. he

Re: a letter to the editor

[Florian Cramer]

Brian (and others):

> It would be useful to gather a selection of one-liners, plus 
> the complete documents from which they are excerpted, and 
> put them in a little time-capsule for three to five years, 
> before republishing - a time short enough so that we would 
> all still feel the sting of how foolish most of this 
> discussion has been.

I agree, but from the exact opposite angle. ;-) Let's talk about it
again in a few years and see how we will view the matter then.

I tend to see s a fallacy here of assuming that the enemy of your enemy
is your friend, or better: sharing your political goals. The people who
burned down the embassies in their outrage about "blasphemy", demanding
that the Danish government shut down the newspaper are no good allies
for your cause. They weren't demonstrating against the war in Iraq,
against Western colonialism in the region, or against immigrant policies
in Denmark, but against the satirical depiction of Muhammad. I consider
it a form of intellectual respect to the protesters to take their
demands as what they are, and not read anything into them what one
rather would like them to be. On these grounds, I tend to view the
protests as reactionaries reacting to reactionaries.  The protesters
are, all the more with the backing of regimes like Saudi Arabia, at
least as bad allies for a multicultural cause as the state-organized
"anti-imperialist peace demonstrations" in Eastern European countries
before 1989 were no good allies for Western pacifists. 

That's all I am saying. And that one can find it inacceptable to impose
a censorship onto oneself in order not to hurt someone's religious
feelings somewhere in the world. I see no contradiction in calling the
Danish paper xenophobic and still insist on the right to "blasphemy".
Multiculturalism is misguided when it makes concessions on those grounds
and embraces reactionary demands just because they come from a minority
culture. 

Concepts like "free media" are cheap, or rather: worth nothing when you
grant them only to the people whose political views you share. If
Nettimers disagree, they should be honest and voice their political
support of, among others, a censored Internet that bans hate speech and
sexist pornography, for example.

So please flame Geert for his Psiphon posting, covering an activism
against "countries considered repressive, such as China, North Korea,
Iran and Saudi Arabia" by "volunteers in more open countries".  Tell
him, like Gita did, to "clean the shit in your own home first". (And
since I am unsubscribing from this list, please reply to me by personal
mail.)

-F

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Re: cartoons? come on.

[Florian Cramer]

Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2006 um 07:05:32 Uhr (-0800) schrieb coco fusco:
 
> Liberal regimes are also manipulating public opinion, silencing dissent and
> using free speech as a way to create an impression of themselves as embattled
> by their minorities, hence justifying more control and repression of 
> immigrants
> in Germany, France, Denmark and elsewhere. 

Over here, the conservative right (which also happens to lead the
federal government) cautiously sides with the Muslim protesters, because
it has its own agenda against "blasphemy".  The "letter to the editor"
column of the leading conservative paper "Frankfurter Allgemeine" is
filling with statements, from non-Muslim readers, saying that religious
believers have been humiliated enough and measures should be taken
against tolerating blasphemy. The playwright and leading conservative
intellectual Botho Strauss writes how he admires Islamic family values,
and that the protests would finally put an end to an era of postmodern
anything-goes.  The (powerful) Bavarian prime minister and chairman of
the conservative CSU party stated that blasphemy should not be
tolerated. At the same time, he demands to ban the hugely popular
Turkish action movie "In the Valley of the Wolves", a fantasy about
Turkish fighters on a revenge mission against the USA in the Middle
East. 

It's not at all that a "liberal state" is raising its voice here, but
control and repression of immigrants is continued in conjunction with a
revived religious agenda. Note that Germany is, by its constitutional
law, not a liberal secular state. It grants various, substantial
privileges to religions it officially "recognizes" - which not
surprisingly excludes Islam to date.  That so-called "concordate" with
the Roman Catholic Church and the Lutheran Protestant church was forged
by Hitler and has not been revised, except that Jewish congregations
were included after 1945. But instead of proposing, like the
aforementioned newspaper does, to make Islam part of this system, I
would like it to be abolished altogether.

> And all those championing the
> cartoons take the bait on this - why not give racist and xenophobic
> representations of Arabs, foreigners and immrigrants in European media equal
> airtime here? 

I fully agree. 

> Why not analyze the weird representations of immigrants by the
> European left?

I agree again. And include the weird representations of Jews in Arab
countries, etc..

> And even Germany has some images that no one can play with without getting in
> trouble, - swastikas being number one.

A law I am very much opposed to. It hasn't changed any old or new Nazi
from becoming what he or she is. Neonazi organizations routinely
circumvent it by using other Germanic/fascist symbols that aren't
outlawed, but look similar.  The only effect this law has had are
bouncing wedding postcards from India, police raids on independent book
and video stores that offered critical documentary books and films on
the Third Reich (but sometimes with swastikas on the cover if they
weren't made in Germany), and crackdowns on art or music that used the
swastika in an ironic and artistic way (such as "The Reich'n Roll" by
The Residents).  In some areas of Germany, access to Neonazi web sites,
but also gore sites like rotten.com, is blocked by the state government.
The net artist and activist Alvar Freude made a satirical work where
people could call a telephone number and listen to a computer voice
reading the pags of those blocked sites. A court sentenced him for
"instigating ethnic hatred" and "aiding in the dissemination of
unconstitutional propaganda". - Fortunately, the sentence was cancelled
by an appellate court.

It's not that I would be happy with people waving swastikas in the
street, to say the least. But my experience is that any (even
well-meaning) attempt to crack down on it using state authority as a
tactical tool routinely backfires and hurts the wrong people.

> Finally, Cramer will probably never agree on this, but one thing I can say
> after spending time in countries where governments are more openly repressive
> and religions carry more weight is that some people there and elsewhere just
> get offended - really offended - by having American and European insist that
> their view of freedom and democracy is the right one and the only one and
> universal. 

Well, I would just say that if there can be routinely anti-European,
anti-semitic, anti-Christian caricatures in Arab media, that are no
better or worse than those in the Danish newspaper. If noone storms Arab
embassies, then it's only fair to expect the same in turn. I fully
agree that the Danish newspaper editors are hypocrites, but the people
who storm the embassies (or, more, precisely: who triggered the
protests) are no better.

> Europeans. Even secular muslims I have spoken to find the imposition of
> American protocols of democracy in the Middle East to be a form of 
> imperialism.

We don't disagree about that. But w

Re: cartoons? come on.

[Florian Cramer]

Am Samstag, 18. Februar 2006 um 21:50:45 Uhr (-0800) schrieb Sasha 
Costanza-Chock:
 
>   Can we please shift the conversation from the back and forth of the rights
> regime (free speech! freedom of religion! World Leaders Agreed it's 
> Universal!) to
> the reality of empire, war, and occupation that is the real fuel for the 
> so-called
> 'cartoon protests.'

It is not the real fuel. The fuel are Middle Eastern regimes that choreographed
and coordinated those protests. They were perfect to get their people in line 
and
create an outlet for their political frustration that wouldn't endanger the
regimes and the violent suppression of free speech and political freedom in 
those
countries. Besides, Middle Eastern politics cannot be reduced to a simple
black-vs.-white, good-vs.-evil scheme with one evil "empire" pulling the 
strings.
(Isn't it remarkable how Negri/Hardt use a concept coined by "Star Wars" and
Ronald Reagan?) Conspiciously absent from this debate, for example, are the
Iranian threats to Israel and the Holocaust revisionist conference taking place
there - only because people in Israel or Western countries don't mass-protest
against that, and aren't burning down Iranian embassies?

Don't let yourself manipulate by propaganda and intelligence work. It is
impossible to burn down an embassy without the local government at (the very)
least tolerating it.

-F

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Re: publication of "Jyllands-Posten" cartoons is not...

[Florian Cramer]

Am Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2006 um 18:29:00 Uhr (-0500) schrieb Jody Berland:

> It seems to me that in the midst of this intelligent conversation, the 
> elephant sitting in the room is being missed.  Freedom of speech amounts to 
> a kind of religion in American culture.   

I am not American. And I live in country that, as a whole, didn't have
something that remotely qualified as free speech before 1989. Even today,
freedom of speech and expression is severely limited over here, with blasphemy
laws, film and video game censorship, an excessive trademark and injunction law
with which any lawyer can bury any web site owner else under ruinous bills
without even going through a court, and a general tendency of jurisdiction to
favor the state's interest over individual free expression. Consider yourself
lucky if you live in a country where this is not the case and where you no
longer have to struggle for those rights. It is have lost the appreciation for
them because you take them for granted. 

Cultural relativism can only go to a certain point and never relativize
fundamental human rights. Those who found such a relativism on deconstruction
theory have utterly and perversely misread Derrida (if they actually read him
at all) who has been very clear and outspoken on these issues, and was an
activist in support of Salman Rushdie.

To consider human rights,including free speech, a purely Western construct
without universal value is subtly racist because it doesn't take people in
other parts for free human beings.  Such extremist multiculturalism would be a
perfect tool, with all theoretical and terminological sophistication of
cultural studies thrown in, to defend slavery, for example.

It is scary that Westerners get impressed by protests that were so obviously
staged and choreographed by dictatorial regimes. Oppositional intellectuals in
those countries - the Iranian blogger scene, for example - all the while
struggle for their own freedom of expression. Now they are let down by those
who allegedly form the very core of an activism for free media and a free net
culture. 

Maybe multiculturalists should start to attack the Internet as a Western
colonialist tool and defend China's version of it as a heroic struggle of an
ethnic minority against Western universalism and for cultural diversity.

-F

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Re: publication of "Jyllands-Posten" cartoons is not [5x]

[Florian Cramer]

Am Sonntag, 12. Februar 2006 um 14:20:13 Uhr (-0500) schrieb Nettime:
> From: Ryan Griffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: publication of "Jyllands-Posten" cartoons is not...
> 
[...]
 
> The other question i have is about Florian Cramer's "buy or not buy" 
> argument... Really? So it all comes down to market forces? 

Where did I talk of market forces?

A counter question: If the caricatures hadn't appeared in a newspaper,
but in the Internet, would there have been same reactions relativizing
media freedom on this mailing list? Would people have said that such an
online publication went too far and needed to be regulated?

If that were the case, then Nettime's cause of net culture has come
a long way... 

I can't believe what I'm reading here.

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Re: publication of "Jyllands-Posten" cartoons is not "freedom of thepress"

[Florian Cramer]

Am Donnerstag, 09. Februar 2006 um 14:27:51 Uhr (-0800) schrieb Ayhan Aytes:
> No I mean the violence in its literal sense, in this case through
> cultural means of political oppression of minorities. We should remember
> that Muslims in Denmark are minorities. The Atheist response to
> Christian majority culture can be supported when they use the Jesus
> cartoons to stand against this oppression. But when the majority uses
> the same method against Muslim minority it becomes a totalitarian tool
> to oppress Muslim minority. 

Allow me to disagree. "Totalitarian" implies that it's more than just symbols, 
but
a physical oppression program. If the latter were the case, then there would be 
a
justified reason to consider it political oppression of minorities.

In any case, I am an atheist, and I wouldn't consider it "oppression" if
Christians in Europe, Muslims in Arab countries or Jews in Israel would depict
atheists in the way Muslims have been depicted in Denmark - although I might not
be amused.

Protest against these caricatures is fine by me, but it's never okay to deny 
other
people the right to draw such caricatures, or even worse, hold whole nations
responsible for them.

> You may support the Nazi era propaganda
> cartoons but I hope not in the mainstream media for the purpose of
> oppressing Jewish people in Europe and creating the propaganda platform
> to exterminate them. 

See, I consider the politics of extermination the crime, but not the propaganda.
Of course, I find the propaganda despisable and would criticize it in every
aspect. But it's a difference of considering something unethical - but not 
illegal
- and considering something a crime that should legally prosecuted.  This is 
why I
am opposed to the fact that a film like "Triumph of the Will" is banned in my
country.

> If this is the case then I hope Muslims are not the
> new Jews of old Europe. 

I agree. But banning caricatures doesn't help a bit - in fact, it makes matters
worse because it would camouflage those sentiments. 

> Yes. Denmark has a law providing for fines and up to four months in jail
> for anyone who "publicly offends or insults a religion that is
> recognized in the country." 

Sorry, I probably mixed it up with the Netherlands. I am strongly opposed to 
such
laws - and even more to the fact that some religions are "recognized" by the
countries and apparently some others not.

> If this newspaper had earlier rejected
> publishing Jesus cartoons based on the same law they should have acted
> consistently in this case too. 

I agree. But this is a matter of editorial policy and its ethics - which might 
be
questionable -, but not of legal prosecution.

> Their double standard is the sign of
> their insincerity in their excuse on behalf of freedom of speech. 

I agree, too. I know that they aren't a good ally for my own views. But as Rosa
Luxemburg said, "freedom is always the freedom of those who think differently,
too".

> "To believe that a drawing oppresses the freedom of people means to
> leave the grounds of rational discourse."
> To believe otherwise with no discrete sense of the political use of
> representations is welcoming Nazi era propaganda as freedom of speech.

Not "welcoming", but tolerating. That's a very important difference.

> The freedom of speech can only be protected when its meaning is
> preserved against this erosion through Orwellian totalitarian rhetoric. 

Not rhetoric, but politics. If freedom of speech can be eroded through rhetoric
alone, then the concept is meaningless.

> If you want to capture the true meanings of things always mind the
> subject. 

I find the concept of a "true meaning of things" highly problematic by itself.

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Re: publication of "Jyllands-Posten" cartoons is not "freedom of thepress"

[Florian Cramer]

Am Donnerstag, 09. Februar 2006 um 12:32:37 Uhr (-0800) schrieb Ayhan Aytes:
> 1. Christians criticizing Christianity is one thing, Christians
> criticizing, Jews, Muslims, Gypsies is another. 

I disagree. Freedom of speech means that everyone may criticize everyone. 
Besides,
we don't even know whether the people who drew those caricatures were 
Christians.
Maybe they were atheists and disliked all religions alike.

> Europe had learnt that
> with one of the hardest lessons of the history. 

You mistake "criticizing" for "annihilating".

> 2. The representation code is different in different religions and
> imposing the codes of Christian iconography over other cultures is a
> violence that is an extension of Orientalist motives. 

I hope you mean "violence" in a metaphorical sense. Otherwise, anyone in the 
world
could claim to be the victim of violence for any made-up reason and draw 
(really)
violent conclusions from that. Maybe the caricatures are symbolic violence - 
just
as there is symbolical violence of Moslems against Jews and mpst religions 
against
other religions -, but if we ban symbolic violence, we no longer live in a free
culture.

> 3. Larger context. Denmark is one of members of the holly alliance that
> is currently invading Iraq. If this caricature had published somewhere
> else its effect would have been different.

But still the newspaper is not the country. The protest in Islamic
countries are just a proof that people there have been deprived by their
governments (for whose existence, no doubt, the West is to be blamed)
from free media and therefore think that something that is printed in a
newspaper is the official voice of the state.

> So, let's drop this freedom of speech pedantry 

No. Never.

> what is really happening. Our concepts of discussion should be based on
> the examples of Nazi era caricatures that represents Jews, 

I agree. Such caricatures are outlawed in my own home country (Germany),
and while I dislike them, I also strongly disagree with the laws that do
ban them. Denmark doesn't have such laws, btw..

> which also could be discussed under the terms of freedom of speech,
> but we don't do that. 

I do.

> Because freedom in democratic countries is not the freedom of the
> powerful to oppress the weak. 

Again, you mix up symbolic and physical action. Yes, it is the flip side
of freedom of expression that it may be used for the powerful against
the weak, and abused for purposes we consider morally wrong. 

> The meaning of democracy is to give the
> weak a voice and secure it in every condition. 

No, this is not the meaning of democracy. Democracy means that any voice
may be heard.

> In Denmark the freedom of
> minority is being oppressed with this example. 

To believe that a drawing oppresses the freedom of people means to
leave the grounds of rational discourse.

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Re: publication of "Jyllands-Posten" cartoons is not "freedom of thepress"

[Florian Cramer]

Am Sonntag, 05. Februar 2006 um 13:14:28 Uhr (-0500) schrieb Ronda Hauben:

> Whatever the reason for the republication and defense of the cartoons,
> in the Jyllands-Posten newspaper, newspapers which republish them in the
> name of "freedom of speech" or "freedom of the press" are seriously
> misrepresenting what "freedom of speech" or "freedom of the press" mean.
> 
> The publication and republication of the cartoons are an example of
> sensational journalistic practices, an effort to use the press to provoke
> people, which is traditionally something that the press has been used
> for.
> 
> Freedom of the press is not the freedom to stir up hatred against a
> people because of their religion or nationality or sex, etc.

Whatever the reason for the reproduction and defense of Robert
Mapplethorpe's "Piss Jesus", media which republish the picture in the
name of "freedom of speech" or "freedom of art" are seriously
misrepresenting what "freedom of speech" or "freedom of art" mean.

The publication and republication of "Piss Jesus" are an example of
sensational artistic practices, an effort to use art to provoke
people, which is traditionally something that art has been used
for.

Freedom of art is not the freedom to stir up hatred against a
people because of their religion or nationality or sex, etc.

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Richard Stallman "no longer endorses" Creative Commons

[Florian Cramer]

[I think RMS makes a valid and well argued point here, very similar btw.
to critical opinions about CC voiced on Nettime. Note that even RMS's 
view that "some Creative Commons licenses are free licenses" is not
shared by everyone (see http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html)
in the free software community. -F]


>From :

LinuxP2P: In the last couple of years, independent media and
entertainment seems has grown immensely. Just last week,
CreativeCommons.org passed the 20 mp3s indexed milestone. Most
independent music, movies etc., use Creative Commons licensing.

A lot of the independent artwork has been spread through P2P (Using
legal independent artistry sites such as Jamendo.com and ccMixter.org,
as well as manually by the artists themselves.). Apart from the obvious,
which is that the GPL is written to cover software, what differences are
there between generic CC licensing and the GPL?

   RMS: I have already explained the patent problem of MP3 format.

   As your question illustrates, people have a tendency to disregard the
   differences between the various Creative Commons licenses, lumping
   them together as a single thing. That is as mixed-up as supposing San
   Francisco and Death Valley have similar weather because they're both
   in California.

   Some Creative Commons licenses are free licenses; most permit at
   least noncommercial verbatim copying. But some, such as the Sampling
   Licenses and Developing Countries Licenses, don't even permit that,
   which makes them unacceptable to use for any kind of work. All these
   licenses have in common is a label, but people regularly mistake that
   common label for something substantial.

   I no longer endorse Creative Commons. I cannot endorse Creative
   Commons as a whole, because some of its licenses are unacceptable. It
   would be self-delusion to try to endorse just some of the Creative
   Commons licenses, because people lump them together; they will
   misconstrue any endorsement of some as a blanket endorsement of
   all. I therefore find myself constrained to reject Creative Commons
   entirely.

   Does Creative Commons publish the number of music files that are
   released under Creative Commons licenses that DO permit noncommercial
   sharing of copies? If so, could you give that number?

LinuxP2P wrote: Apart from the obvious, which is that the GPL is written
to cover software,

   It may seem obvious, but it's not true. The GNU GPL is written
   primarily for software, but it can be used for any kind of
   work. However, its requirements are inconvenient for works that one
   might want to print and publish in a book, so I don't recommend using
   it for manuals, or for novels.

LinuxP2P wrote: what differences are there between generic CC licensing
and the GPL?

   Nothing meaningful can be said about "generic CC licensing"--those
   licenses are more different than similar.  The first step in thinking
   clearly about those licenses is to discuss them separately.

LinuxP2P: Can the GPL be applied to artwork? For example, most of the
people who submit wallpapers to KDE-Look.org submit them under the GPL,
would the GPL's terms still apply, considering it isn't software.

   RMS: There must be some basic misunderstanding here. If a work is
   released under the GPL, then the GPL's terms apply to it. How could
   it possibly be otherwise?

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Re: Frank Rieger: We lost the War--Welcome to the World of Tomorrow

[Florian Cramer]

Am Montag, 09. Januar 2006 um 18:00:39 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Geert Lovink:

> On 9 Jan 2006, at 6:37 AM, Florian Cramer wrote:
>
> > I admire the perfect Carl Schmitt-ian (and by implication, Leo
> > Straussian) rhetoric of this manifesto: The rhetoric of the
> > emergency state, political friend-vs.-enemy antagonism, and its view
> > of the status quo of democracy.
>
> You mean admire like in Oscar Wilde's:
>
> "I admire Japanese chairs because they have not been made to sit
> upon."

Geert,

I just wanted to make a simple point: That Frank and Rop recycle,
unintentionally I think, and fall victim to the neo-conservative
ideology they want to attack, by buying into its (deliberately
fabricated, Straussian) myth of the "war". 

My commentary was a bit acidic because I considered their keynote in the
context of the overall politics of the Chaos Computer Club of the past
few years.  Parts of the CCC have been caught in a Discordian paranoia
loop since quite some time, taking conspiracy theories more seriously
than R. A. Wilson himself ever would. In fact, there have been
"de-conspiracy" workshops at CCC conventions in this and in previous
years, organized by CCC members who feel uneasy with the paranoia
rhetoric and politics.  All the while, CCC spokesman Andy Müller-Maguhn
is currently involved in a legal effort of issuing an injunction issued
against Wikipedia for publishing the full real name of the former CCC
hacker Tron. Tron's death in 1998 has been turned into a murder
conspiracy mythopoeisis by parts of the CCC, a bogus conspiracy theory
according to critical sources like journalist Burkhard Schröder.

I see too many themes in Frank's and Rop's paper that continue to play
the apocalyptic tunes and conspiracy worldview. As others already stated
here, they grossly overstate the real impact of 9/11, turning it into
a mythical date just like Homeland Security did. They also literally speak
of "political conspiracies". Their single observations might be on
target, but I would prefer a more differentiated overall analysis,
especially in the context of the CCC with its angst-ridden teenage
members.


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Re: Frank Rieger: We lost the War--Welcome to the World of Tomorrow

[Florian Cramer]

Am Samstag, 07. Januar 2006 um 11:47:29 Uhr (-0500) schrieb Geert Lovink:
 
> We lost the war. Welcome to the world of tomorrow.
> By: Frank Rieger

[...]

> Democracy is already over
> 
> By its very nature the western democracies have become a playground for 
> lobbyists, industry interests and conspiracies that have absolutely no 
> interest in real democracy. The "democracy show" must go on 
> nonetheless. Conveniently, the show consumes the energy of those that 
> might otherwise become dangerous to the status quo. The show provides 
> the necessary excuse when things go wrong and keeps up the illusion of 
> participation. Also, the system provides organized and regulated 
> battleground rules to find out which interest groups and conspiracies 
> have the upper hand for a while. 

I admire the perfect Carl Schmitt-ian (and by implication, Leo
Straussian) rhetoric of this manifesto: The rhetoric of the emergency
state, political friend-vs.-enemy antagonism, and its view of the status
quo of democracy.

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Re: Libre Commons = Libre Culture + Radical Democracy

[Florian Cramer]

You argue against the supposed moralism and apoliticism of the Free
Software movement, but your own agenda is nothing but moralist and
apolitical itself:

> >1. This work is outside of all legal jurisdictions and takes its  

This is an romantic apolitical position because such a space "outside of
all legal jurisdictions" does not exist. Wake up and get a life.

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Re: Historical Revisionism Made Easy

[Florian Cramer]

Am Samstag, 12. November 2005 um 17:14:48 Uhr (-0500) schrieb Mark Dery:
 
> How odd, then, that the *1982* issue of the Florida Bar Journal should
> use the term. I give you chapter and verse:
> 
> >>Title: New issues in the new media

You can also go back to the year 1964 and McLuhan's "Understanding
Media":

   "In Othello, which, as much as King Lear, is concerned with the
   torment of people transformed by illusions, there are these lines
   that bespeak Shakespeare's intuition of the transforming powers of
   new media" [...]

   "Education is ideally civil defense against media fall-out. Yet
   Western man has had, so far, no education or equipment for meeting
   any of the new media on their own terms." [...] 

   "The vested interests of acquired knowledge and conventional wisdom
   have always been by-passed and engulfed by new media."

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Re: a new definition

[Florian Cramer]

Olia:

> Because New media does not "usually refer" to relatively recent mass media. It
> does not "usually refer" to mass media discourse. It refers to the digital 
> medium:
> computer, computer networks. And unfortunately to "interactive media and other
> forms of multimedia" when it comes to giving definitions.

I don't think this has always been true. McLuhan, for example, already uses the
term "new media" in his writings from the 1960s. And as a thirty-something, I
remember how video and cable TV were commonly referred to as "new media" in the
1980s.  (And "media art" was thought to be more or less synonymous with video 
art.
Just look at the history of ars electronica and transmediale.) 

But it's symptomatic of new media discourses, of course, that they deny their
history; after all, that's what the term "new" is about.


> > The whole entry, IMHO, is based on a confusion of the term "new media"
> > with "new media studies" and should have been a separate article with
> > the according title.
> 
> It is not a confusion, it is my statement, that the term New Media as a name 
> for a
> field of studies is the only meaningful appearance of this term.

But new media refer to the new media themselves, not their field of study. One
could say, for example, that the DVD, the iPod, HDTV or P2P networks are 
(fairly)
new media. To use an analogy: One would not define "literature" as synonymous 
with
literary studies on the sole grounds that university programs are normally 
called
- in the anglophone and francophone world - "literature" and not "literature
studies".

> After watching Refresh streams I looked in The Language of New Media book for
> the definition -- it was not there. I looked in New Media Reader. The Term was
> not defined. I looked in Wikipedia -- after you know (see the beginning of the
> message).

Well, all of this isn't perhaps too surprising. There are a lot of "McGuffin"
terms in the humanities that are frequently used, but remain deliberately un- or
underdefined. Cassirer's "symbolic forms" come to my mind, Foucault's 
"discourse"
and, well, the term "media" itself.

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Re: a new definition

[Florian Cramer]

>  A good example of how some areas of
> wikipedia are suffering from a lack of participation. It's probably
> because most media activists are busy posting on their own websites...

I am not sure whether the opposite is always helpful. As much as I
respect Olia, I don't find her edits of the Wikipedia article very
constructive. Before her edit, the article said:

| New media usually refers to a group of relatively recent mass media
| based on new information technology. It is based on computing technology
| and not reducible to communication in a traditional sense. Most
| frequently the label would be understood to include the Internet and
| World Wide Web, video games and interactive media, CD-ROM and other
| forms of multimedia popular from the 1990s on. The phrase came to
| prominence in the 1990s, and is often used by technology writers like
| those at Wired magazine and by scholars in media studies.
| 
| The term has garnered negative connotations due to techno-utopian claims
| by new-media proponents about the revolutionary social and personal
| benefits of new media; the claims of revolutionary transformation of
| people's lives were widely seen as unjustified. All the same, new media
| have only grown in popularity, and their current ubiquity is slowly
| causing social changes; their initial proponents' error may have been in
| the speed with which they claimed media would transform society, rather
| than the prediction itself.
[...]

While this is not perfect, it's not a bad text either. Olia completely
deleted it and replaced it with:

| New Media is the field of study that has developed around cultural
| practices with the computer playing a central role as the medium for
| production, storage and distribution.
| 
| New Media studies reflect on the social and ideological impact of the
| personal computer, computer networks, digital mobile devices, ubiquitous
| computing and virtual reality. The study includes researchers and
| propagators of new forms of artistic practices such as interactive
| installations, net art, software art, the subsets of interaction,
| interface design and the concepts of interactivity, multimedia and
| remediation.
| 
| Media, in the plural, refers to the variety of technologies and formats,
| (such as computer games, the World Wide Web and Virtual Reality), that
| have been developed over the past few decades.
| 
| "New" in this context means:
| 
| * the relative novelty of digital computing
| * a belief in the computer as the future
| * the unprecedented speed of evolution and mutation of devices and
| * technologies
| * undeveloped, imperfect and experimental environments
| * subjective novelty, (most of the artists and theoreticians
| * currently studying digital culture have migrated from different
| * disciplines)

The whole entry, IMHO, is based on a confusion of the term "new media"
with "new media studies" and should have been a separate article with
the according title.

Two other editors subsequently abriged Olia's text into the following:

| New media is an umbrella term for media that are based on new
| technologies. Triggered by the media theories of Siegfried Kracauer and
| Marshall McLuhan, film, radio and television were subsequently
| understood as new media in the 1940s to 1960s. In the 1970s and 1980s,
| the term was primarily identified with video, since the 1990s with
| computers and the Internet. The term "media" is sometimes used as an
| abbreviation of "new media".
| 
| New media are also the common denominator of such disciplines as (new)
| media art (from Nam June Paik to net.art), (new) media activism, (new)
| media studies (from Marshall McLuhan to Lev Manovich) and journalistic
| media criticism (from Neil Postman to Howard Rheingold).

[...]

Obviously disagreeing, Olia has deleted the above text again and
replaced it with her previous version of the article.

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Re: net.edu? - European Graduate School

[Florian Cramer]

Am Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2005 um 08:41:59 Uhr (-0700) schrieb lotu5:
 
> I'm just wondering if folks here have any experience with this school or know
> anyone who does, as I evaluate how to spend my next 3 years of my life. The 
> school
> can be found at http://www.egs.edu .

These here might be of interest:
http://www.paultulipana.net/egs/
http://www.alexanderklemm.ch/?EGS%3A_The_European_Graduate_School_%28NEW_JULY_26%29
   
http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0001/msg00025.html

The single head behind EGS, and as it seems the only tenured, resident
faculty member, is Wolfgang Schirmacher. The above Nettime archive entry
links to more of his postings on this list and might give insight into
his thinking and personality.

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And I forgot those links:
http://www.markhemphill.com/myblog/2004/06/drama_at_egs.html 
http://www.markhemphill.com/myblog/2004/06/egs_wraps.html  |

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Re: Who will own and control the Internet's infrastructure?

[Florian Cramer]

Alex:

> DNS is entirely unnecessary for the functioning of distributed
> networks such as the internet. It is simply a convenience: people
> prefer to read addresses as words rather than as numbers. 

This is not the only function of DNS. I would even argue that it's the
less important one. More importantly, DNS provides a second-level meta
adressing layer for the Internet, i.e. one that abstracts from the
physical locations. And what's more, there is no one-to-one, invertible
correspondence between domain names and IP numbers -  which would
complicate things further.

Let's take nettime as an example. "bbs.thing.net" resolves to the IP
address 64.115.210.15. I could, as you suggest, simply send this posting
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you
reverse-lookup this DNS entry, then 64.115.210.15 resolves to the domain
name "static-64-115-210-15.isp.broadviewnet.net". I.e., Thing.net
currently runs via broadviewnet.net; its domain name and its subdomains
resolve to static IP numbers provided by this ISP.  Thing.net had to
change its ISP in 2003 after its old ISP Verio had taken them offline,
for political reasons: The Yes Men had issued a fake Dow Chemical press
release and spread it via thing.net (full story here:
).

If The Thing and Nettime wouldn't have had domain names (=DNS entries),
but only IP numbers, they both would have vanished from the net on the
spot. The damage would have been almost irreparable. 

> If DNS and the domain names disappeared tomorrow, the internet would work
> just fine. 

>From the view of the ISPs, yes, from "our" perspective, not, because we
would become the slaves of our ISPs and physical network locations. 

> We'd all be using IP addresses and the other name spaces already in
> existence. 

Another counter-example: Because of the current shortage of IP
addresses and a transition to IP v6 that never seems to happen, most
private Internet users don't get static IP numbers from their ISP, but
different IP numbers each time they log on. Thanks to the domain name
system and services like dyndns.org, it is still possible to host a
server, or log into your own computer from the Internet (via ssh, VPN
etc.) even if you don't know your temporary IP address.

Yet another counter-example: the domain name system allows you to map
different domains (DNS entries) to a single IP address and make them
appear as different servers. The apache http server can map different
subdomain address queries to different "virtual hosts". If you own the
domain "foo.org", you can create an arbitrary number of different
websites like "bar.foo.org", "xy.foo.org", "test.bar.foo.org" etc. under
a single IP address and without registering the subdomains in DNS.
Again, this takes control away from the ISPs and gives it to you.

> (I'm hesitant to say that control over IP number assignment means
> control over the internet, but I'd be interested to hear that argument if 
> someone
> wants to make it.)

Well, it certainly does - as you wrote yourself, IP numbers are vital
for the technical functioning of the Internet, domain names are not. 
The shortage of IP v4 numbers and the slow transition to IP v6 already
has, as pointed out, negative consequences for Internet users with
standard ISP access. Yet things could be much worse. Imagine
ICANN (or whoever may be in charge of IP number assignment in the
future) would suddenly decide - disguised perhaps as a "security" policy 
- that IP numbers may no longer be assigned to non-corporate individuals, 
or, because of their shortage, would be available only for $10,000 per
address and year. 

The fact that IP number assignment (fortunately!) hasn't been
controversial yet doesn't mean that it will stay that way.  If IP number
and DNS control were shifted from ICANN to the United Nation's ITU, for
example, it might politically look good on paper, but could be
devastating in practical life considering how the ITU backed
monopoly-controlled telecommunication in the past.

> Additionally sites like google have made domain names more and more obsolete.

I am not sure which advantages it would have to give up domain names
that can be owned and controlled by individuals - and pass over that
control to an entity like Google.

> Another example: peer-to-peer technologies such as Gnutella have essentially 
> zero
> reliance on the DNS. (Yes, domain names are conventionally used when 
> bootstrapping
> with a web cache, but strictly speaking web caches are a convenience not a
> necessity, and IP addresses would work just as well.) Fully distributed p2p
> applications are widely available for most of the things we do online: email,
> chat, file transfer, etc.

But they all have to implement their naming and addressing schemes
internally. This only shifts the DNS issue to the level of the
individual P2P protocol, with even less public accountability for the
address assignment politics.

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Re: FW: [IP] more on Ireland counts the cost of MIT Media Lab fiasco

[Florian Cramer]

Am Mittwoch, 05. Oktober 2005 um 19:49:55 Uhr (-0400) schrieb Gurstein, Michael:
> > Original URL:  > mit_media_lab_ireland/>
> >
> > Ireland counts the cost of MIT Media Lab fiasco
> >
> > By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco (andrew.orlowski at
> > theregister.co.uk)

[...]

> > The European Media Lab was launched at the height
> > of the tech bubble but closed its doors in
> > January this year. Its output may disappoint the
> > Irish government, but it won't surprise anyone
> > familiar with the original MIT Media Lab.
> >
> > [snip]

You left out the juicy bit:

| The institution was founded in the 1980s by Nicholas Negroponte
| as a way of relieving gullible corporations of their money. The
| haphazard and often whimsical "research" was scorned by real computer
| scientists, but succeeding in its goal of attracting attention from
| a gadget-happy mass media. Negroponte even funded his own tech porn
| publication: Wired magazine, to promote the utopian adventure.
|
| And they're still at it. This year we featured the Labs' Clocky - a
| shagpile-covered alarm clock that runs away from you.
|
| The only difference with MIT Media Lab Eire is that the taxpayer,
| rather than, private donors, were invited to sponsor the playpen.
|
| We can't improve on the Sunday Times description of the scandal,
| written by John Burns, which begins thus:
|
| "One of its biggest research projects was a sensor to read peoples
| minds. But MediaLab Europe (MLE), a project that cost the Irish
| taxpayer almost ¤40m, must have thought the Irish government was
| already telepathic. It refused to tell ministers how many people it
| employed, what they were paid, or to provide audited accounts."

This seems somewhat symptomatic for the whole so-called "new media" cyberkitsch,
and I wouldn't be too sad if these were the signs of its ultimate collapse and
vanishing. I wouldn't be surprised if in one or two decades, people will 
consider
"new media" retrofuturist camp, just as "cybernetics" before.

-F

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Fernanda G. Weiden on women in free software

[Florian Cramer]

[Culled from

, which also
includes user comments on the paper. According to Groklaw, Fernanda G.
Weiden  works for IBM Brazil
and is the founder of the initiative "Projeto Software Livre Mulheres",
member of the Free Software Foundation, a Debian developer and activist
in the Debian Women project.  -F]

*

Women in Free Software

 ~ by Fernanda Weiden

The gender issue in the Free Software community is a big paradox:
we have a community of volunteers teaching the world how to develop
technology in a different way, one willing to distribute equal
opportunities through free access to the software, and at the same time
a community in which more than 50% of the total world population doesn't
participate.

A couple of studies have been done about female participation on
technology, and they suggest numbers of around 20% ^1 in most countries,
measuring such things as the number of women enrolling in IT courses
like computer science at university, for instance.

What hasn't been studied is a different phenomenon, even worse numbers
when the IT career in question is Free Software. The number of female
developers is around 1.5% in general, and in some communities like
Debian, it is 0.5%. What are the reasons for the lack of women in the
Free Software community? I have some ideas.

When they try to integrate into the user/developers groups of the Free
Software community, most women find barriers, mainly related to two
diametrically opposed behaviors: either they will be treated as the most
loved person in the group, over treating them, or they will be victims
of sexist attacks, jokes or dating approachs.

These behaviors make 50% ^2 of the women who try to join the community
in the end decide not to. It's not unusual for a woman to receive a
invitation to a date as the answer to her technical question, just
as it's not difficult to receive other questions as: *do you have a
boyfriend?* or *can you send me a picture?*.  Because of that, women
tend to keep a little distance from the community, from the exchange of
knowledge and experience, and stay merely an observer in the communities
in which they participate.

The main problem with that is that in Free Software, the user/developers
discussion groups and mailing list play an important and special role,
since the community increases its knowledge and makes their technique
and software better based on knowledge sharing.

Another important point is that Free Software development is often
done as a hobby, just for fun, and in one's spare time. Where is a
woman's spare time? After their working day, most of them still have the
second working journey, which is at home, taking care of the home, the
children and her husband. If the men can have the privilege of doing
Free Software in their spare time, sitting in front of the computer and
having some fun coding what they want, women in general don't have this
privilege.

All these things end up in missed opportunities for women and for the
Free Software community, because both will never have the opportunity to
access this knowledge which could be crucial for improving some software
or other idea.

People write software to meet their needs, to make software do what
they want. If women don't participate in writing code and writing
documentation, they will never have the results and the answer for their
needs.  That's how it is. Those who merely watch have no influence on
driving development, and the consequence is not having software that
just precisely what you want it to do.

Another issue I see. Women also usually require too much of themselves,
because they have a natural insecurity which results in less women
participating in technical discussions, for instance. It's the old
feeling of *I don't know enough to join this discussion. I'll let the
experts talk.*

Some time ago, I was in an event attending a talk about VPN (Virtual
Private Network) with ipsec. I never had submitted a paper to talk about
this subject because I felt I hadn't mastered the subject sufficiently
to be able to teach other people. After listening the speaker talking
for 30 minutes to 100 people more or less, though, it was impossible to
keep quiet and not say to him that he was spreading wrong information
to the people there. And it's not so unusual in meetings around here
to hear misinformation. I say that, even though I still think that I
haven't enough knowledge to give a talk on VPN with ipsec. The man
didn't either, though, and it didn't stop him at all.

Women need to enpower themselves with the hacker spirit, which is
the spirit of sharing knowledge and ideas.  They need to be aware
that particularly for Free Software, all the ideas, small or big,
cloudy or brilliant, are important to be merged and put together with
other ideas to compose the end product -- the Free Software which
we develop. Software per

Re: 99 trillion errors: a short reply to Florian Cramer

[Florian Cramer]

Am Donnerstag, 04. August 2005 um 23:37:31 Uhr (+0100) schrieb wayne clements:

> page and picked from ten alternatives. From ten alternatives for the
> twelve sonnet lines, 10 [to the twelfth] possible poem combinations
> result."

Indeed it's fourteen lines and 10^14 combinations, thanks for the
correction. 

-F

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Re: Benjamin Mako Hill on Creative Commons

[Florian Cramer]

Am Samstag, 30. Juli 2005 um 21:42:03 Uhr (+0200) schrieb august:
 
> Freedom needs standards?  Even freedom isn't free anymore?

That for sure is the quasi-Goedelian paradox of freedom, it can't
describe itself with its own means. If you don't pin down or define
[i.e. "limit"] freedom, than the term has no meaning anymore. If the
concept of freedom were radically and ontologically free in the sense
you suggest, then it would include for example fascism as one of its
options.

> Why is that when I hear advocates arguing the efficient definition of
> "freedom" as it pertains to software distribution, I think of George
> Bush, the wars on "terror", and NAFTA?

Because the left and right have undergone strange mutations in the past
few years. Today, the political right speaks of freedom, using an
originally left-wing concept from the French revolution ("liberté,
égalité, fraternité"), while the political left has turned into
believers in the law and the state, preferring a legalistic term like
"rights" to anarchic "freedom".

> Ok, we understand already that the GPL licence makes restrictions on
> what one can or cannot do with a piece of software code.  

The reverse is true. It grants additional freedoms/liberal uses that
exceed the standard "fair use" rights granted by copyright law. Neither
the GPL, nor any other free software/open source/open content license
impose any additional restrictions to default copyright.  Of course,
with its prohibition against deriving non-free works from free works,
the GPL is more restrictive than the BSD and MIT license or the public
domain. But since copyright defaults neither to BSD licensing, nor the
public domain, calling the GPL "restrictive" is a red herring. 

> for instance, Mako says this:
> 
> > Free Software's fundamental document is Richard Stallman's Free Software
> > Definitions (FSD) [3]. At its core, the FSD lists four freedoms:
> >
> >  * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose;
> >  * The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to
> >your needs;
> >  * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor;
> >  * The freedom to improve the program, and release your
> > improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits;
> 
> 
> why does he insist that these are "freedoms" and not rights or abilities?
> why doesn't it read:
> 
>   * the right to run the program for any purpose;
>   * the right to study how the program works, and adapt it
>   * the right to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
>   * the right to improve (or fuck up) the program, and release it

I suppose there is a simple terminological reason for that: A right can
be granted by a legislator, not by individuals. As an individual, I
can't grant you any additional "rights", but I can only give you a
permission (=license) that exceeds your legal rights. The sense of this
permission is that other people may use your work more freely. Hence the
aim is more user freedom. I fail to see what's wrong with that.

> For users of FLOSS software, these "freedoms" are probably all they have
> to worry about.  Unfortunately, when you program FLOSS software, for the
> most part, you are also dealing with another set of freedoms:
> 
>   * the freedom to find some other way to pay the rent 
>   while you program the code or:
>   * the necessity to have "free" time to program it.

This is an entirely different can of worms from the aforementioned "four
freedoms" because your two freedoms don't concern the user, but solely
the creator of the code. 

> The GPL addresses the use and distribution of what is produced, not
> the production itself.  

Because you can't regulate production and fix capitalism through a license.

> The CC licenses, however, try to provide some protections for the
> producers of content by providing non-commercial clauses.  

Which is a bogus advantage. We had this discussion in Nettime before,
and the common sense was that the concept of "commerce" implied in those
clauses is neither defined nor clear at all. If our exchange would be
printed in a Nettime book, and the book was for sale even if it made no
profit or even losses for the publishers, it would be still a
"commercial" distribution and hence not allow the inclusion of material
licensed with this clause. This would even be the case if it were
published on a CD-ROM sold for 50 cents, or in exchange for a blank CD
medium. 

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Re: Benjamin Mako Hill on Creative Commons

[Florian Cramer]

What an excellent, spot-on critique of Creative Commons. 

> Creative Commons advocates, directors, and supporters increasingly 
> describe the project as an attempt to apply the principles of Free 
> Software, appropriately adapted, to less technical forms of creative 
> expressions like music, writing, and the visual arts.

One further problem is that the whole notions of "content" and "creative
expression" are ill-defined. It's also questionable to differentiate them from
software. Why is software not a creative expression or "content"? Even if you 
put
aside fundamental discussions about the cultural semantics of software, you 
would
have to ignore experimental work that crosses the boundary between traditional
software/algorithms and traditional "creative expression", such as generative
music and art, algorithmic poetry and artistic hacking. And even if you consider
that irrelevant, too, there remains the whole popular genre of computer games
which clearly belongs to both camps.

Instead of "open content" or "creative commons", I would simply use the
term free information, respectively information freedom.

>  * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose;
>  * The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to 
>your needs;
>  * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor;
>  * The freedom to improve the program, and release your 
> improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits;

These could be easily translated into:

* The freedom to use the work, for any purpose;
  [rendering "non-commercial" license clauses, as they had been criticized here
  in Nettime before, non-free]
* The freedom to redistribute copies so you can share with others;
* The freedom to study how the work is structured, and adapt it
  to your needs;
  [rendering among others DRM-encrypted information and "verbatim copy"
  licenses non-free]
* The freedom to release your adaptions to the public so that the whole 
community 
  benefits.
  [sticking with the more neutral term "adapt" seems to be better than
  the software engineering concept of "improving"]

As Benjamin Mako Hill rightly observes, Creative Commons currently only grants 
the
freedom of redistribution by default, and as the lowest common denominator of 
its
licenses. This is hardly sufficient for a - quote Lessig - "free culture".

-F


A sidenote: The GNU GPL has been so powerful because it grants all four 
freedoms,
but prevents that free work is being exploited through proprietarization. In 
fact,
it can be used for so-called "content", too. The only thing that is slightly
problematic is that the GPL refers to the licensed work as "the program", not 
just
"the work". This could be fixed in the next version of GPL. But unfortunately, 
the
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[no subject]

[Florian Cramer]

Am Freitag, 01. Juli 2005 um 18:53:51 Uhr (+0100) schrieb David M. Berry:
 
> These licenses are  written explicitly against the presuppositions and
> caveats of the  Creative Commons licenses which (un)consciously seek
> to use culture  as purely a resource. Instead these licenses are
> anti-licenses;  ethical frameworks or chromosomes of social practices.

I would have two other suggestions for people who want to make their work
freely available, but dislike CC:

- Use the GPL. In fact, the GPL can be used and has been used to license
  all kinds of works, not only computer programs. In the free software
  world, much documentation, visual artwork or audio is GPLed. The
  huge benefit of using the GPL in this way is that it allows a free reuse
  of works between different technical format and media. A GPLed piece
  of audio, for example, can be integrated into a computer program, a
  GPLed computer program can be reprinted as poetry in a GPLed book, a
  GPLed piece of writing can be reused in the online help system of
  a computer program etc.etc.. 

  A major disadvantage of the CC licenses is their incompatibility
  to the GPL. CC-licensed work cannot be reused in GPLed
  work [unless the copyright owner agrees that the work or parts of it
  are also distributed under the GPL]. A second disadvantage, which you
  pointed out in your earlier posting, is the multitude of CC licenses.
  It even impossible to share/copy'n'paste between projects released 
  under different CC licenses.

- Use the "Free Art License"  which is older
  than CC, artistic in spirit and reflects that it was not written
  by lawyers with questionable or naive understandings of "creativity".

Both the GPL and the Free Art License are, to use your wording, 
"ethical frameworks". They don't naively conceive of culture
as a resource, but manifest a cultural politics.

Btw., all Creative Commons licenses were evaluated by the Debian project with 
the
conclucsion that they currently fail to fulfill the criteria of the Debian Free
Software Guidelines [widely recognized as the standard criteria for free 
licenses].
Since the Open Source Definition is based on the DFSG, the same should apply to 
the
CC licenses as "Open Source"; it might not be coincidental that no CC license is
listed on .


-F

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Re: GPL Version 3: Background to Adoption

[Florian Cramer]

Am Samstag, 11. Juni 2005 um 08:28:37 Uhr (-0700) schrieb ed phillips:
> Google and Amazon represent services as you said, and unless they
> redistribute their software, there is no conflict with the GPL.

Exactly that is likely to change with GPL v3, at least as an optional term of 
the
license.  quotes Richard
Stalmman on rewriting the GPL as follows:

"The issue of Web services has to be considered, he said. Some in the community 
are
calling for a strong 'copyleft' license with code that is used and changed to be
returned to all. Others want the opposite.  I do not believe that we will be 
reach
consensus on this front, so I believe the license will have to accommodate 
options
as to the question of Web services, but this must be squared with the 
ideological
pursuit of freedom," he said.

See also:
,
,
, 

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Re: GPL Version 3: Background to Adoption

[Florian Cramer]

Am Donnerstag, 09. Juni 2005 um 23:03:33 Uhr (-0700) schrieb lotu5:
 
> Updating the GPL is therefore a very different task in 2005 than it
> was in 1991. The substantive reasons for revision, and the likely
> nature of those changes, are subject matter for another essay. At
> present we would like to concentrate on the institutional, procedural
> aspects of changing the license. Those are complicated by the fact
> that the GPL serves four distinct purposes.

What is very likely to change is the policy for web services, a blind spot of 
the GPL 2.0 since a long time. Today, the GPL only requires that
code which statically or dynamically links to GPLed code - for example, an 
application linking to a GPLed library - is released likewise under
the GPL.  However, if a GPLed program is exposed to the world not by classical 
linking, but through remote procedure calls, nothing is required.
This, in fact, is the loophole on which many proprietary web services build on 
GPL software, Google and Amazon probably being among them. If the
GPL version 3 will change that, expect interesting times in the Internet.

-F

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Re: French vote for a citizen's Europe

[Florian Cramer]

Am Montag, 30. Mai 2005 um 13:37:10 Uhr (-0400) schrieb Ronda Hauben:
 
> French citizens, however, by rejecting the current
> constitution proposal, gave notice to their government and to the EU that
> the task of building a social Europe, a Europe for the citizen, is a task
> that has to become a significant aspect of European construction.

Consider also the flip-side of this. There is a historical coincidence
of Eastern European countries joining the EU and the first time that
people in its Western core member states voice their resentment against
the EU process.  French voters gave notice to their government that they
resent [btw.  like the majority of people in the Western EU countries]
the integration of Eastern Europe and, in the future, Turkey into the
EU. The reasons include a "social Europe" without the low-wage
competition of Eastern European workers both inside and outside their
countries. The vote against the constitution would never have won
without the populists and nationalists of the extreme left and right. 

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Re: What's the meaning of "non-commercial"?

[Florian Cramer]

Am Dienstag, 04. Januar 2005 um 22:43:41 Uhr (+0100) schrieb rasmus
fleischer:

> Personally, I'm astonished that so many people (including a large part
> of the net's "copyfighters", and many nettimers too) by default put
> NonCommercial-licenses on every line of text they produce -- seemingly
> without a thought on what consequenses such that license may bring.

Yes, few people are aware that imposing the "non-commercial" restriction
on a licensed work makes it non-free in terms of the Free Software and
Open Source movements. The Free Software definition of the FSF/GNU
 defines as the second of
its software freedoms 0-3 "The freedom to redistribute copies so you can
help your neighbor". This includes the freedom of commercial
redistribution. Later on the same page, the text states that "'Free
software' does not mean 'non-commercial'. A free program must be
available for commercial use, commercial development, and commercial
distribution. Commercial development of free software is no longer
unusual; such free commercial software is very important."

The "Open Source Definition"
 and the "Debian Free
Software Guidelines"  define
similar permission under their point one, "Free Redistribution".  The
Debian project explains why Free Software permits commercial
redistribution on :

   "This last point, which allows the software to be sold for money
   seems to go against the whole idea of free software. It is actually
   one of its strengths. Since the license allows free redistribution,
   once one person gets a copy they can distribute it themselves. They
   can even try to sell it.  In practice, it costs essentially no money
   to make electronic copies of software. Supply and demand will keep
   the cost down. If it is convenient for a large piece of software or
   an aggregate of software to be distributed by some media, such as CD,
   the vendor is free to charge what they like.  If the profit margin is
   too high, however, new vendors will enter the market and competition
   will drive the price down. As a result, you can buy a Debian release
   on several CDs for just a few USD."


Wikipedia defines as commerce "the exchange of something of value
between two entities. That 'something' may be goods, services,
information, money, or anything else the two entities consider to have
value." In negative terms, any distribution that is not a gift is
commercial. That even includes copying a Linux CD for someone else for
50 cent in order to cover the cost of the CD-R. It also includes, for
example, the inclusion of an essay published in the Internet into a
print book or magazine (like the Nettime reader) that is being sold for
a price, even if it's an underground publication that makes no profit or
the sales of which don't cover production costs. Even for such a
non-profit publication, a work licensed under "non-commercial" terms
couldn't be freely used, but would require an additional permit by the
author/creator. If the work is a collective creation, for example from a
Wiki, the authors of which can't be traced, then it would be impossible
to legally reprint the text in such a publication.

 
> Mikael Pawlo: WHAT IS THE MEANING OF NON-COMMERCIAL?

[...]

> Commercial television is also available. Commercial television may not use 
> content that is licensed under the Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 
> 2.0 license, that is rather evident. 

It may use it, but just as with standard copyright, only through
obtaining permission from the author (which, as explained above, can be
sometimes difficult or impossible). 

> But may Swedish public service 
> television do it? The commercial channels to compete with public service 
> television over the public's attention. Further, commercial messages are 
> broadcasted even in public service, although not by using commercials, but 
> by using "sponsored by"--billboards and product placement. Is this the 
> kind of use that Creative Commons would like to endorse with its drafting? 

The problem might be even worse. I read that Swedish public television is
financed, like the BBC in England, through a television license fee (and
not by fundraising like for example public broadcasting in the USA).
That makes it a commercial service that can be received only via
payment. 

> Probably, but I can not be certain, one is looking for a less commercial 
> environment. Perhaps a school or a strict hobby, in the basement, 
> not-for-profit environment. 

That seems to be the main flaw in the "non-commercial" wording, a
confusion of "non-commercial" and "non-profit". Most non-profit projects
are commercial in the sense that they charge money. That would even
apply to say, a teenage garage band that would play cover versions of
songs released under Creative Commons Licenses, but charge $2 entrance
fee to reimburse its 

Re: Bill Thompson: Dump the World Wide Web

[Florian Cramer]

Does this guy work for Microsoft? His proposals sound like they come right 
from MS's Research & Development, including all the braindead 
security-flawed designed.

Fortunately the Web is client-server and not like what Thompson proposes. 
Otherwise we would have to shut it down because I would have turned into 
an unmanageable non-open, insecure, giant distributed spyware application. 
- Tim Berners Lee's greatest achievement, in my opinion, is that he took 
fancy, but not very well-engineered concepts from Nelson and proprietary 
applications like Hypercard and re-implemented them with the virtues of 
Unix, free software and open standards, using a client-server model, an 
open protocol (http) and SGML (=the predecessor of XML)-based file format 
(HTML) and allowing operating system-agnostic communication between 
servers and clients/browsers. For the mess that resulted afterwards, only 
software companies like Netscape, Microsoft, Sun, Macromedia with their 
proprietary file formats and format/protocol extensions have to be blamed. 
There would be nothing wrong with the web today if everyone would follow 
the open W3C standard.

> The decision to make HTTP a
> =93stateless=94 protocol has caused immense trouble. It's rather like b=
> eing served by a waiter with short-term memory loss: you can only order
> one course at a time because he will have forgotten your name, never mind
> your dessert order, by the time you've had your first spoonful of
> gazpacho.

Fortunately HTTP is stateless, otherwise privacy/spying problems would
be even worse than they are today.

> Cookies, small data files that are placed on a client computer by
> the server, provide a partial solution, rather like the tattoos sported by
> Guy Pearce in the film Memento, but they are inelegant, complicated and
> far from reliable.

In another words, he wants even something worse and less user-manageable
than cookies.

> It
> isn't as if we need to look far for an alternative -- we've had one =
> since 1990 when the web was just starting to emerge from CERN physics lab.
> It's called =93distributed processing=94 and it enables programs to tal=
> k to each other in a far richer, more complex and more useful way than the
> web's standards could ever support.

In other words: something like Corba or .NET. Richer, more complex, more
error-prone and definitely less secure.

> Instead we have to invent
> technologies which preserve the web approach while making it slightly more
> usable, like the eXtensible Markup Language, or XML.

He doesn't know what he's talking about. XML is a metalanguage and just a 
version 2.0 of the SGML metalanguage from which HTML was created. This 
just ensures that HTML and other SGML/XML-based markup languages follow a 
standard syntax model and can be processed with standard SGML/XML software 
tools (without the need of writing new software tools from scratch for 
every new specific markup language).

He writes about Microsoft:

> At the time their programmers were just beginning to explore the
> possibility of direct programme-to-programme communication and
> network-based collaboration between applications. Without the distraction
> of the web we may well have had widespread distributed online services
> five or even more years ago.

Yes, and such ones that of course only are usable from Windows computers 
because they are the only platform with a complete .NET runtime.

> These services would not rely on the Web browser as the single way of
> getting information from an online service, but would allow a wide range
> of different programs to work together over the network.

Such as the spyware and viruses that already plague computers. When do 
people, especially Microsoft developers, learn that it is not a good idea 
to execute arbitrary code from the Internet on your computer? Well, 
Microsoft has an answer for that, in their typical approach of fixing one 
design mistake with another layer of code bloat and Big Brother technology 
- their answer is called "Trusted Computing".

> A news site could deliver text, images, audio and even video through a
> program designed for the purpose, instead of having to use a
> general-purpose browser,

...thus disallowing the user to set up their own browsers, image viewers, 
audio and video players, but forcing them to use the custom application, 
including all spyware and advertising banners.

> or a shopping site could build its own shopping
> cart and checkout that did nor rely on Web protocols.

So that the user has no control over what this shopping site is doing, and 
every braindead Internet shop programmer in the world could implement his 
own flawed, insecure shopping protocol. - Thanks to sound web standards, 
we have http and https encryption as proven standard solutions.

> And we would have no
> need for Google, because information services would advertise their
> contents instead of having to be searched by inefficient =91spiders'.

So that every porn, s

unstable digest 90

[Florian Cramer]

Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:31:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Reviews of Two Works: Lanny Quarles / Alan Sondheim


Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed



Reviews of Two Works: Lanny Quarles / Alan Sondheim


Lanny Quarles (solipsis) has created/written/produced/configured Nihon
Zettels; he was kind enough to send me a copy to read. The review is my
own idea.

I think for anyone interested in the literature of this (not _that_)
century, this book is essential. I'm fascinated by the palimpsest or
palimcestual organization / organicism of the whole - but I'm also
fascinated on its deep reading of medieval and pre-medieval Japan and
gaijin phenomenology - both in relation to the eternal. For it's eternity,
I think, that's at stake here. There are various languages within it as
well as languagings, and what I consider to be stele-texts, matched in
format by the book - texts which begin and end and open up kabbalah-worlds
and words in the midst of others.

There are positionings of male and female, demiurge and Noh, classifica-
tions and lists, broken syntactics, shattered and reassembled mythologies.
The text is astute, almost schizzed at times, but its open worlds are the
poetics of infinity; Bachelard would have loved it.

I worry constantly that works of this quality - and I'd include other work
here - Joel Weishaus' or mez' absolutely brilliant web/write\rite/lit for
example - will be lost, ignored, bypassed in terms of critical or even
canonic acceptance. The world - and the world of distribution - are both
becoming increasingly porous - it's easier than ever to find these works
and absorb them, offline and online, self-published and universally
published.

Get this book!

The Blurb:

Titled after Arno Schmidt's magnum opus _Zettels Traum_ (Notes Dream),
Lanny Quarles' Nihon Zettels Traum is a samizdat email-list series carried
out on Wryting-L transfered to paper. Including all and some repeats of
the original series of emails written after the author had returned from
Japan. The author sought to re-immerse himself in the wonder and
strangeness of his first visit to japan via the internet. Interspersed
with bits of sampled literatures both of web and non-web origin, the
author freely improvised and remixed to create a perplexing and
"informatic free jazz" interpretation of his journey to and back from the
land of Nihon.

Price $25.00 for color copy cover and velo binding
and $12.00 for a simple paper cover with hand drawn noiseglyph and signature

Lanny Quarles
3236 SE 52nd Avenue
Portland Oregon,
97206



Sampler

I've been putting my work on a DVD+ sampler. Please note this is DVD+ -
which plays on almost all computers, but probably not on a standard DVD
player. The work as usual is within a directory; click on a piece to view
it. Because of the format, I've been able to include a large number of
full-frame videowork. Much of the material is related to choreography,
codework, thinking through body/language/sexuality/'the political/etc.

You can also buy this for $25; apologies for the cost, but a lot of
equipment went into the production/technology of the disk.

Order from

Alan Sondheim ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
432 Dean Street
Brooklyn, NY, 11217

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Subject: SH*T P*SS C*M BL**D T**RS SW**T
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Subj

unstable digest 89

[Florian Cramer]

nywhere writing the antithesis to cyborg, this_ site is
the incorporation of the organic into a machinic
C:\COURSE\NETWORK\d.txt - 1 cached - Jul 21
a.txt
marrow of pass- ing for the soul, what is this passing, the nature of the
passing. What could write would be the _instrument of passion_ would be
the assemblage, machinic or otherwise, cam
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Subject: _n.sect.lips_
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Subject: blind tickling
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Subject: Re:  bin::[hex]tickling
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Subject: _i[]f[]testing_
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Subject: trained souls
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Subject: Re:  un[das radio]cover
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Subject: undercover
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Subject: March 10, 1918
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Subject: Section X - Paragraph 46
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Subject: _lec[alan||frac]turing_
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Subject: [iso-8859-1]   tidlimit
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A. Torán   Grasa Lana Trementina
Pasar una esponja humedecida en esencia de trementina. A. Torán
Grasa Algodón Gasolina Disolver la mancha con un paño impregando e
n gasolina de mechero, posteriormente lavar y aclarar. A. Torán
Grasa Tejidos sintéticos Eter Disolver la mancha con éter, poster
iormente lavar y aclarar. A. Torán   Grasa Marmol Gasolina Frota
r la mancha con gasolina y aclarar. A. Torán   Hierba Tejidos
Vinagre En el lavado añada una cucharada de viangre, aclare
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From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: radio objects (thanks to Florian Cramer)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 15:17:58 -0400 (EDT)




radio objects (thanks to Florian Cramer)


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unstable.ob push @ob _line, $_;
unstable.ob # play later singer & ob  info to database
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&detab($digest_volume)."\t".&detab($pogram_number).
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"\t".&detab("$speaker_dir/$lp_record")."\n";
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:41:54 +0100
From: Ana Buigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ::talla::

which diet is right for you?
























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Inglés-Español, Spanish-English_, 7a edición, Editorial Ariel, S.A.,
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Re: A 'licensing fee' for GNU/Linux?

[Florian Cramer]

Am Montag, 09. August 2004 um 14:08:05 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Felix Stalder:
 
> Small companies have none of that and, this is the key point, neither have
> various foundations and authors of FOSS.  Consequently, neither small
> proprietary software companies, nor FOSS communities can issues such
> guarantees and hence the users of their software will have to assume the
> risk.

Felix, I much agree with the differentiations you introduced in your
revised theses. But it seems to me that the question of software
vendors/distributor assuming responsibility for patent infringement
lawsuits is really a question of large vs. small, and that the
consequences for Free Software are even more indirect, but nonetheless
dangerous.

After all, many important Free Software projects _are_ run by large
companies: OpenOffice by Sun, Evolution and Mono by Novell, Eclipse by
IBM, the Linux kernel by OSDL, whose list of sponsors reads like Who's Who
of the computer industry. All these companies have the resources (and
their own patent portfolios) to defend their own Free Software development
projects against patent infringement claims.

More importantly, the same applies for large commercial providers of Free
Software such as Novell/SUSE and Redhat. They could make, and partly
already have made, "intellectual property" infringement a part and selling
point of their expensive "enterprise" licensing packages. As a result,
GNU/Linux could splinter into two factually different operating systems,
an expensive commercial "enterprise" OS and a hobbyist community operating
system that has to stay below the radar of companies who might sue for
patent infringement.


> For users of FOSS unwilling to accept such risk -- mainly large
> institutional users -- there are two possibilities. One is to buy their
> FOSS solution from a major vendor that offers indemnification as part of
> the service contract (similar to a provider of proprietary software). The
> other is to purchase insurance (like the one offered by OSRM). Both create
> costs not entirely dissimilar to a licensing fee.

I think it is more plausible that, if the current lunacy of software
patenting and DMCA-style copyright stays in place, that IT departments of
all companies and public institutions will have to buy liability insurance
contracts for possible copyright/patent/trademark infringement of their
software infrastructure.

Any commercial software provider can of course make such an insurance a
shrinkwrap part of the package s/he sells, as a convenience for the
customer (although I doubt large IT departments would consider that
sufficient).  Again, this doesn't hurt free software - in the meaning of
libre software - per se, since it can be sold commercially and thus with
the necessary insurance policy included. It will however obstruct the
proliferation of gratis software, regardless whether it's free/open source
or proprietary.

-F

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Re: A 'licensing fee' for GNU/Linux?

[Florian Cramer]

Am Samstag, 07. August 2004 um 15:35:24 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Felix Stalder:
> Well, actually, the story of the GIF patent controversy is exactly the oher
> way around and fits perfectly into my argument about differences between
> proprietary and FOSS in terms of risk exposure in the coming patent mess.
>
[...]

> As he continued to explain, all of the major proprietary packages (Adobe
> Corel etc) had licensed the patented technology and hence users where
> entitled make as many .gif images as they wanted for whatever purpose. What
> they were after were people who used programs that had not licensed the
> patents, which were mainly freeware (though sometimes this freeware was
> distributed as part of commercial software) and FOSS programs (though the
> played a minor role back then in the field of graphic design).

I still fail to follow your logic. If you used a free program like
ImageMagick [which btw. already played a major role back then as a backend
for server-side image generation and manipulation] or The Gimp to produce
GIFs, you got sued.  If you used a proprietary program [whether non-FOSS
"freeware" or commercial] whose authors hadn't licensed LZW from Unisys,
you - and not the authors - got sued, too. The proprietary license did
_not_, as you wrote in your initial posting, save you, the user, from
legal risks, i.e. it did _not_ ensure that the program author got sued
instead of you, the user.

So whether you use free or proprietary software, your risk of getting sued
has nothing to do with the type of the license, but solely depends on the
respective proactive care taken by the creator of the program.  Adobe
licensed LZW, Debian on the contrary removed GIF support in its Gimp
packages to turn risk away from its users.

Since there exist myriads of software patents for almost anything from
one-click-orders to content management systems, no software creator and
distributor (regardless whether Debian or Adobe) will ever be able to
guarantee that nobody else won't sue your, the user's, ass. Welcome to the
new economy of post-material capitalism!

-F

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Re: A 'licensing fee' for GNU/Linux?

[Florian Cramer]

Am Freitag, 06. August 2004 um 23:44:53 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Felix Stalder:

> This applies to all kinds of software, proprietary as well as
> free/open source. From a user's point of view, there is, however, a
> crucial differences. With proprietary software, the company from which
> the software is licensed assumes all responsibility and the user has
> no worries beyond the licensing fees.

Felix, sorry if I sound rude, but this is not true, and you
unintentionally spread FUD here!

Proprietary licensing does _not_ protect customers from patent ligitation,
unless the license contract explicitly states so. Software patents can be
and have been enforced against users/licensees of proprietary software,
too. Unisys' enforcement of the LZW/GIF patent, with its legal action
against websites that used GIF images in 1999 (see
) is a prominent example.

The suspension of Munich Linux project, which was made to alarm the public
about future risks for free software through software patenting in the EU,
was therefore dangerously dumb shoot-yourself-into-the-foot PR which did
nothing but play into the hands of the proprietary software industry.

-F

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Debian project finds Creative Commons licenses non-free

[Florian Cramer]

The Debian legal team has evaluated all Creative Commons licenses and
found them non-free according to the Debian Free Software Guidelines
(DFSG) . The DFSG are widely
considered the standard criteria of Free Software and Open Source
(since the Open Source Definition
 is based on the DFSG).

Even the Creative Commons ShareAlike license, which resembles the GPL,
and the CC Attribution license, which resembles the BSD/MIT license, are
considered non-free by Debian. The gory legal details of the explanation
can be found in
. The
authors conclude:

   "debian-legal contributors recommend that authors who wish to create
   works compatible with the Debian Free Software Guidelines should not
   use any of the licenses in the Creative Commons license suite.

   Authors who use or are planning to use a Creative Commons license
   that includes the NonCommercial or NoDerivs license elements should
   understand that these restrictions are incompatible with Free
   Software.

   Authors who use or are planning to use the Attribution 2.0 license
   should consider a similar Free Software license such as a BSD- or
   MIT-style license.

   Authors who use or are planning to use the Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0
   license should consider a similar Free Software license such as the
   General Public License [GPL]."

To make the Creative Commons Attribution and ShareAlike licenses free=20
by the standards of the DFSG, the authors suggest to change six points
in them. For the time being, software documentation and other works
released under Creative Commons licenses can not be part of Free
Software/Open Source operating system distributions like Debian
GNU/Linux.

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Re: The Limits of Networking

[Florian Cramer]

Quoting Alex Galloway and Eugene Thacker:

> Protocol abounds in techno-culture. It is a totalizing control apparatus
> that guides both the technical and political formation of computer
> networks, biological systems and other media. 

[...]

The problem with the word "protocol" seems to me that computer science has
given it a meaning quite different from common English. Other examples are
the words "transparent" (which is used in software design in practically
opposite sense to common understanding, as a mapping of two or more
different symbolic systems into a simulated one, like the "transparent"
access of FTP servers directly in a desktop PC file manager), "code" (used
not in the common sense of "codifying system", but as "codified symbols"),
"interpretation" (understood in the C.S. as the formal
execution/translation of an instruction at runtime, whereas in philosophy,
literary studies and music interpretation it means non-formal translation
of [instructive or non-instructive] signs), and so on.

What computer science and network engineering call "protocol" could just
as well, or better perhaps, be named [a simple, formal] "language" because
they simply serve the purpose that two connected entities can talk to each
other. Yet another word, which you use yourself, is "standard". It is a
virtue of the Internet that its standards are open and designed to be as
agnostic to the information transported as possible; it seems to me that
preserving this design (with DRM schemes, patents etc. on the horizon) is
the issue rather than, as you at the end of the paper, pushing the
protocols.


Of course it is right to say that "protocols", "standards", "languages" or
whatever we call them are systems of control in the sense of what
theoreticians such as Lacan and Foucault have called "symbolic order" or
"discourse"; if this applies to common human language, it no doubt applies
to formal languages as well. But in praxis, it boils down to the question
how the standard is designed, i.e. how much freedom it allows and who
controls it in which way, see Lawrence Lessig's analysis of the Internet
vs. AOL.

But as with any play, consisting of a ruleset and its free execution,
control is never total to the extent that it wouldn't permit freedom, a
paradox best seen in Oulipo writing with its self-imposed formal
restraints (like: writing a novel without a single occurence of the letter
"e", as Perec's "La Disparition"). Freedom and control thus are not
mutually exclusive, but mutually dependent on each other. To envision
communication systems without control - i.e. languages without rules,
networks without protocols - and find them desirable, would be utterly an
infantilist vision of a pre-language paradise. (And to read Freud, Lacan
or Foucault in this way, would be no less naive.)

> Put simply, protocols are all the conventional rules and standards
> that govern relationships within networks.

Yes, but the reality is more complex because network protocols can be
layered onto each other and thus used in quite unpredictable ways.

To stick with the example of the Internet, it would be false to assume
that because http is a "hypertext transportation protocol", it would force
everything under its "totalizing control apparatus" (to quote your paper)
into hypertext format. - The counter-examples are abundant and well-known,
but even topped by the fact that any imaginable network language can, with
the right software tools, be steganographically tunnelled through http,
just as you can subvert the "totalizing control system" English by using
it merely as a cryptographical container for a text written, for example,
in the cosmic Zaum language of futurist poet Velemir Chlebnikov - apart
from the fact that you can still use it to write novels like Joyce's
Ulysses, or in the case of http, web sites like www.jodi.org.

 
> We need only remind ourselves of the military
> backdrop of WWII mainframe computing and the Cold War context of ARPAnet,
> to suggest that networks are not ahistorical entities.

Yet the history is more complex as popular media history reductionism
tells it. The Arpanet/Internet was funded by the military, but designed by
academics - many of them with hippie backgrounds - who used the rhetoric
of the "nuclear-strike resistence" to get the money for it.  Today, you
probably have to write something about "e-commerce opportunities in a
globalized world" or "terrorist-proof network design" if you run a C.S.
lab and want a grant for your work. (Or, if you do humanities research on
the subject, don't miss to write the word "interdisciplinary cultural
research" into your application letter, at least here in Germany.)

> and so forth. What we end up with is a *metaphysics of networks*. The

Agreed, for which to not a small extent Deleuze/Guattari and their popular
perception must be blamed. An aspect of D/G where most clearly their
indebtedness to vitalist philosophy [and hence right-wing philosophy]
shines through. I wond

Re: RFC: nettime nominated for Golden Nica

[Florian Cramer]

I think Nettime wants nothing from Ars Electronica; rather, it is
Ars Electronica which is interested to launch its new "digital
community" award in a respectable fashion. I know from other sources,
btw., that Nettime is not the only selfmade net cultural community
which has been asked to run for the new AE price.

However, I fully support the idea of the Nettime moderation team to use
the (hypothetical) Euros from an AE award to support thing.net which has
done an excellent job to host independent projects, never shying away 
from legal and political pressure. This should be reason enough for
Nettime to participate in the award competition. At the festival,
Nettime likewise could be "represented" by those who run thing.net.
 
> Your entry must include:
> 
>  - project description (3.000 characters maximum)

[Quote from www.nettime.org]

nettime mailing lists - mailing lists for networked cultures,
politics, and tactics


>  - project basics

>From Geert Lovink's and Pit Schultz' 1998 Nettime charta, modified by
Ted Byfield and Felix Stalder in 1999:

  is not just a mailing list but an effort to formulate an
 international, networked discourse that neither promotes a dominant
 euphoria (to sell products) nor continues the cynical pessimism, spread
 by journalists and intellectuals in the 'old' media who generalize
 about 'new' media with no clear understanding of their communication
 aspects.  we have produced, and will continue to produce books,
 readers, and websites in various languages so an 'immanent' net critique
 will circulate both on- and offline.

  is slightly moderated.


>  - web address of the project

http://www.nettime.org

>  - project details: object and cultural-geographic context, 
>outline of the project's origin, development and history 
>to-date, type and extent of the (groups of) individuals 
>currently involved, technological basis, etc.


Continued from the above charta:

 the formation of the nettime group goes back to spring 1995. A first
 meeting called  was organized in june 1995, at the Venice
 Bienale, as a part of the Club Berlin event. The list itself took of the
 fall. A first compilation on paper appeared in January 1996, at the second
 Next Five Minutes events (the so-called ZKP series). The list organized
 its own conference in Ljubljana in May 1997, called 'The Beauty and the
 East'. A nettime anthology came out in november 1998: Readme!, published
 by the New York publishing house Autonomedia (www.autonomedia.org).



>  - technical information: objective, statement of the problem 
>being addressed, solution and features, fields of application, 
>concrete areas of implementation, potential users and 
>beneficiaries, licensing type, system environment, 
>technological basis, etc.

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>win a prize in the "Digital Communities" category

Because Nettime has been asked by AE to submit itself to the
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> mail!
>  - submitter: information about the person submitting the entry 

Submitted by the subscribers of Nettime c/o The Thing New York
[...address...]

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[Florian Cramer]

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1350?1400; ME blunderen blondren, (v.) < ON blunda shut one's eyes, nap=
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cf. Norw dial. blundra

dry cleaning
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gallerinor har shina opp:
http://www.nb.no/gallerinor/e_sok.php
noen h=F8ydepunkt:
buksedama fra gol -
http://www.nb.no/cgi-bin/galnor/gn_sok.sh?id=3D135020&skjema=3D2&fm=3D4
mykologen Sopp (?) -
http://www.nb.no/cgi-bin/galnor/gn_sok.sh?id=3D62864&skjema=3D2&fm=3D4

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[Florian Cramer]

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:16:06 +0100
From: noemata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Thu Feb 26 18:08:16 2004


Subject: iteration_#2
From: Jukka-Pekka Kervinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: _pl[mi]asma_lob[bing]otomies_   11:45pm 23/02/2004
From: "][mez][" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: strlen
From: noemata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: THE WAR TO GET MY MESSAGE OUT
From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: please read important you know this. [x4 Omo]
From: noemata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: _liQUId.[vis]ion_   08:31am 24/02/2004
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Subject: an answer to : Who's Afraid of Blue, Red and Green ? -colorheXaequo.- 
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Subject: strlen
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Subject: Imagiknow nothing at all and stuck like that
From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [screenburn] ]="_root.skull
From: Lewis LaCook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Copy Adorno, go to jail?

[Florian Cramer]

[Screwed linebreaks of the original posting fixed, otherwise forwarded
as in the original. -F]

- Forwarded message from ariel authier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

From: ariel authier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [rohrpost] Fw:  copy adorno, go to jail?

COPY, COPY, CPOY, COPY, COPY, COPYA, COPIA


Copy Adorno, Go To Jail? Textz.com Doesn't Think So

The Hamburg Foundation for the Advancement of Science and Culture,
presided by Jan Philipp Reemtsma, has just advanced science and culture
to a whole new level: Sebastian Luetgert, the founder of textz.com, is
facing a warrant of arrest and may go to jail if he fails to pay more
than 2,300 euros in damages for the alleged copying of two essays by
Theodor W. Adorno that the foundation claims as their "intellectual
property". Reemtsma was kindly asked to settle, but refused.

The case dates back to August 2002, when the foundation filed for a
preliminary injunction against Luetgert at the Hamburg State Court,
referring to the alleged distibution of two works by Theodor W. Adorno,
"Jargon der Eigentlichkeit" and "Fascism and Anti-Semitic Propaganda".
Since not a single e-mail was sent to notify textz.com of the matter,
and since written notification failed to reach the defendant, textz.com
only learned about the issue after a few days.  The works in question
were immediately removed from the site to avoid any further legal
hassles.

In December 2003, Luetgert found himself confronted with a warrant of
arrest, obtained against him by the Hamburg Foundation, citing unpaid
claims related to the unauthorized copying of said works. In January
2004, Luetgert addressed the issue in a letter to Reemtsma and asked for
a scholarship so he could pay this debt and avoid jail time. Reemtsma
did not reply, but handed the letter over to his foundation's lawyers -
Senfft, Kersten, Voss-Andreae & Schwenn - who insist on the payment of
2,331.32 Euros for alleged damages and legal fees.

Textz.com believes that an "intellectual proprietor" of Theodor W.
Adorno and Walter Benjamin who claims to advance science and culture by
sending people to jail for taking Adorno and Benjamin serious is
seriously wrong on a whole number of points. The Hamburg Foundation
undererstimates the resistance of their possessions against their legal
protection just as much as their lawyers underestimate the ability of
the Internet to route around damage. In the end, they may even be wrong
in thinking that they will ever get their property back.

Today, in an open letter (http://textz.com/adorno/open_letter.txt),
Reemtsma has been notified that his foundation's "intellectual property"
has been returned to the public domain. This first-of-its-kind protest
signals a refusal to let copyright holders and lawyers censor the very
works they pretend to protect and control what the public can archive or
read. There is a universal right to copy that will never cease to apply,
and there is copyright legislation that will.  The spectre haunting the
scientific and cultural industries is a new commons materializing before
their very own eyes. We're just at the beginning.

Textz.com
February 24, 2004

http://textz.com
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
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How you can support textz.com:

- Spread the word. Tell your friends, tell a journalist, write about it,
  put it on a website, post it to a mailing list, etc. Textz.com is also
  available for interviews, just mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Sign our petition at http://textz.com/adorno/petition.html.

- Write a letter to Jan Philipp Reemtsma, Hamburg Foundation for the
  Advancement of Science and Culture, Mittelweg 36, 20148 Hamburg,
  Germany. If you like, send a copy of your letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Donate to textz.com via http://textz.com/adorno/donate.html.

- Buy a copy of Robert Luxemburg's "The Conceptual Crisis of Private
  Property as a Crisis in Practice" (http://textz.com/crisis). All
  proceedings will go to textz.com's fund for legal expenses.

- Put our "Free Adorno" banner (http://textz.com/adorno/banner.gif) on
  your website, and/or link to http://textz.com/adorno.

- Meet textz.com at Neuro Festival, February 26-29, Munich, Germany
  (check http://neuro.kein.org for details) and join our discussion
  about further strategies in this case.

- Select all, copy, paste, save, upload, share. Reappropriate. (And
  remember: there is no need to break what you can circumvent. Don't
  innovate, imitate.)

--

Related links:

Documentation of our correnspondence:
http://textz.com/adorno/documentation.de.txt
http://textz.com/adorno/documentation.en-babelfish.txt

Press coverage:
http://textz.com/adorno/press.txt

Open Letter to Jan Philipp Reemtsma:
http://textz.com/adorno/open_letter.txt

The Work of Art in the Age of Digital Reproduction:
http://textz.com/adorno/work_of_art.txt

Franz Kafka o

unstable digest vol 79

[Florian Cramer]

 : la ligne de commande.
From: gustin pascale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "_arc.hive_" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

Subject: the poorest tiny MAPS [+MAN] [+meat]
From: "][mez][" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: inside my brain
From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: _ippen-bud_
From: "William Fairbrother" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: ON K
From: noemata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WRYTING-L : Writing and Theory across Disciplines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
_arc.hive_ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, syndicate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: (pudak, tabbed hadingus) (last one, line limit)
From: devices <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re:  code and its double
From: Rick Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



lurking editors

beatrice beaubien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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[Florian Cramer]

the code no.

just wondering, can those not n.timately familiar with certain programmer
conventions still comprehend/glean/x.tract meaning from my code//net.wurks?


chunks,
mez





.(c)[lick].
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http://www.hotkey.net.au/~netwurker
http://www.livejournal.com/users/netwurker/





nettime unstable digest vol 78
Sat Dec 20 19:12:53 2003


Subject: let me in
From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: let me in//Let[trist] me[ander]in[gs]
From: "][mez][" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Six O'Clock
From: Brent Bechtel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Six O'Clock//pick_up.retell
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Subject: Re: 3.37am//c.l(ick)ean_up.remix.t(ure)ell
From: "][mez][" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: from a book of the dead
From: Lawrence Upton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: the dead + the book
From: "][mez][" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Beauty is most effective when discourse ceases.
From: Brent Bechtel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Beau eRot.ic
From: "][mez][" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: preaching_2_the_coded
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lurking editors

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unstable digest vol 77

[Florian Cramer]

0M8R4KGxGEAAPgADAP7/CQAGAFDgIA
EAAAEAIAAEAAAD+AAAYCAAAXAgAAGAIAABkCAAAPAA
//
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2wBDARESEgVGC8aGi9jQjhNjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2NjNjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2Nj
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BgcICQoL/QAtRAAAgEDAwIUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS
0fAkM2JygkKFhcYGRolJico0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4
eXqDhIWGhiJipKTlJWWl5iKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5LDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi
4+Tl5ufo6rx8vP09fb3+PnQAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA

ISBN 82-92428-08-9



Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:55:02 -0800
From: "achit!quasimodoyokai+qmul(e)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Free Art Shares
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]







3 'True' PRTSCN desktopcollages.

clausebarbi.jpg=20
grandragon.jpg=20
killyourchildren.jpg





Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:09:55 +0100
From: Ars Publica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Free Art Shares
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ie priceless
PRTSCLENSSclashes.
Gk drák?n kind of serpent, prob. orig. epithet, the (sharp-)sighted one,
akin to dérkesthai to look


> 3 'True' PRTSCN desktopcollages.

  clausebarbi.jpg
  grandragon.jpg
  killyourchildren.jpg

D trouw, G treu, ON tryggr, Goth triggws



Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:10:56 +0100
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: BOOLEAN BALE BEAD
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Subject: hangman nikuko by extension
From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:06:14 -0500 (EST)






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Re: Re: [0100101110110101.ORG] FOR SALE

[Florian Cramer]

Nuria, 

thanks for pointing out potential sources of confusion. There is only
one thing I have to disagree with:

> This news is very funny... but fake! Check the 0s and 1s:

Why is it fake? The relatedness of the 0100101110110101.org project to
my person is well known and published since spring 2001, among others,
in . 

The announcement never was about anything else but 0100101110110101.org,
a site which featured independent work like "A Self-Interview of
.0100101110110101.org", "Dates" and "Opensourcing rhizome.org".  

The text announcing the sale of 0100101110110101.org doesn't contain any
claims about 0100101110101101.org, which is a project independent from
0100101110110101.org. 

-F

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[Florian Cramer]

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:11:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: Talk Talk--a generative text and music game/lifestyle tool!


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More


Network 1:  "jetblue"  BSSID: Network
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Weak Total First First "Thu "Thu Oct Oct 16
16 09:25:36 09:25:36 2003"2003" Last Last
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[Florian Cramer]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
From: "[__lo-y. ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:  . | " || 11-10-2003-13:13 |
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:53:22 +0200

At 2003-10-12 08:27:21, Florian Cramer wrytinged:

 > Johan uses self-written Perl scripts which he frequently processes 
through themselves,
 > and with loy, my suspicion is that he is simply one single Perl script ;-).

( 
http://groups.google.de/groups?dq=&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-%208&threadm=fa.ld656p1.1piqb3d%40ifi.uio.no&prev=/%20groups%3Fhl%3Dde%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dfa.fiction-of-philosophy
 
- it is highly recommended not to read the rest of the thread )


( not a perl script )

( but good old powerbasic )

( and some manual editing )


#DEBUG ERROR ON
#COMPILE EXE "lo_y.txt.proc.exe"
#REGISTER NONE
#OPTION VERSION4
#DIM ALL
#RESOURCE "mktxt.pbr"
#INCLUDE "c:\b\pb\winapi\win32api.inc"
#INCLUDE "c:\b\pb\winapi\commctrl.inc"
#INCLUDE "c:\b\pb\winapi\comdlg32.inc"
#INCLUDE "c:\b\pb\winapi\richedit.inc"

TYPE AlgoType
  naam AS STRING * 32
  cptr AS DWORD  'not in use yet
  flagsAS DWORD
  question AS STRING * 64
END TYPE

TYPE AlgoParamsType
  Algo AS AlgoType
  siz  AS DWORD
  inpstringAS STRING PTR  'contains the text to work on
  inpstring2   AS STRING PTR  'if multiple input required (flag), 
buffered text is put here
  outpstring   AS STRING PTR
  datfile  AS STRING PTR
  num  AS DWORD   'parameter
END TYPE

DECLARE FUNCTION MkTxt_CreateEditWindow AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION Mktxt_CreateBufferWindow AS LONG
DECLARE CALLBACK FUNCTION MkTxt_Edit_DlgProc () AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION UpdateAlgoParams(BYREF AP AS AlgoParamsType, BYVAL buf$) 
AS LONG
DECLARE CALLBACK FUNCTION CBInp AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION MkTxt_Proc   (AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION Prok_Proc(AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION Prok2_Proc   (AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION Prok3_Proc   (AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION Dechar_Proc  (AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION LPF_Proc (AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION LPF2_Proc(AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION LPF_TD_PROC  (AP AS AlgoPAramsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION Spacer_Proc  (AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION GrandMix_Proc(AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION GrandMix_Rand_Proc   (AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION Wrap (AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION Format   (AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION Repl (AP AS AlgoParamsType) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION MakeFont(BYVAL Fnt AS STRING, BYVAL PointSize AS LONG) AS LONG
DECLARE FUNCTION MkTxt_FileOpenName(hParent AS LONG) AS STRING
DECLARE FUNCTION MkTxt_FileSaveName(hPArent AS LONG) AS STRING
DECLARE FUNCTION MkTxt_FileDataName(hParent AS LONG) AS STRING
DECLARE FUNCTION RE_TextBeforeSelection(LONG) AS STRING
DECLARE FUNCTION RE_TextAfterSelection(LONG) AS STRING
DECLARE FUNCTION RE_SelectedText(LONG) AS STRING
DECLARE FUNCTION File2String(BYVAL filn AS STRING) AS STRING
DECLARE SUB myMsgbox (hparent AS LONG, b$)
DECLARE CALLBACK FUNCTION CBmyMsgbox



GLOBAL done AS LONG
GLOBAL myhInst AS LONG
GLOBAL hWEdit AS LONG
GLOBAL hEdit AS LONG
GLOBAL hBuf AS LONG
GLOBAL Algo() AS AlgoType


%MK_A_REQSIZ  = &B1 '@algotype.flags meaning algorithm requires 
size param
%MK_A_MULTINP = &B10   '   more 
then one input string
%MK_A_REQDAT  = 
&B100   '   data file
%MK_A_REQNUMPARAM = &B1000  'requires numeric param
%MK_A_REQSTRING   = &B1 'requires string as param - ptr put in datfile 
field

FUNCTION WINMAIN(BYVAL hInst AS LONG, BYVAL hPrev AS LONG, lpszCmdLine AS 
ASCIIZ PTR, BYVAL nCmdShow AS LONG)  AS LONG
RANDOMIZE TIMER
LOCAL hw AS LONG
LOCAL txt AS STRING
LOCAL i AS LONG
'   i = loadlibrary ("c:\windows\system\richedi20.dll")
  '  if isfalse i then i = getlasterror
myhInst = hInst
DIM Algo(0 TO 13)
Algo(0).naam = " mrkv"
  Algo(0).flags = %MK_A_REQSIZ
  Algo(0).cptr = CODEPTR(MkTxt_Proc)
Algo(1).naam = " lo_y pass"
  Algo(1).flags = 0
  Algo(1).cptr = CODEPTR(LPF_Proc)
Algo(2).naam = " lo_y pass.frmt"
  Algo(2).flags = 0
  Algo(2).cptr = CODEPTR(LPF2_Proc)
Algo(3).naam = " lo_y pass.dom: tim"
  Algo(3).flags = 0
  Algo(3).cptr = CODEPTR(LPF_TD_Proc)
Algo(4).naam = " [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
  Algo(4).flags = %MK_A_REQSIZ OR %MK_A_MULTINP
  Algo(4).cptr = CODEPT

unstable digest vol 69

[Florian Cramer]

 For (i), any divisor of a(x) and b(x) also divides 
the greatest
common divisor. Since d d\Gamma 1.





PARTITION #019:

F, 0 k\Gamma i.  N=1 (n)=q(n). Y.  J, , + 1)(x.  3 n.  F = in this list is 1,.





PARTITION #020:

2, j , n.  K\gamma 1 x, 3 that is,.  \gamma 2r Then `\Gamma 1.  \delta 1073741839. we 
repeat, 2 2.
? p :=2^32+15; ? modexp(3,(p-1) div 2,p); 4294967310 ? modexp(3,(p-1) div 3,p); 
2086193154 ?
modexp(3,(p-1) div 5,p); 239247313 ? modexp(3,(p-1) div 131,p); 185916 ? 
modexp(3,(p-1) div
364289,p); 1338913740 =4\Theta p.




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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:00:30 +0200
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Subject: ?_cursor?_

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Re: Linux strikes back III

[Florian Cramer]

Am Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2003 um 09:42:58 Uhr (-0700) schrieb Morlock Elloi:
 
> I take issue with a Good Cop principle. There is no such thing - if
> you want to use so-called legal system and IP property laws you become
> just one of the parties that help maintain the whole thing, enriching
> lawyers and "leaders" along the way. OS is created by many and the
> cause/ideology exploited by a small fraction of loud ones. Exploited
> in $, celebrity status and attention grabbing sense.

I don't see how lawyers and "leaders" get enriched by a case like FSF
vs. Linksys. Eben Moglen works as a pro-bono-legal counsellor (i.e.
without payment) for the FSF which itself operates as a
non-profit-organization on a shoestring budget, orders of magnitude
smaller than that of - for example - Rhizome. And the fact that
negotations with coroporate GPL infringers are usually done in a
diplomatic behind-the-scenes way contradicts your diagnosis of
"attention grabbing" and "celebrity status". (And Moglen and Kuhn can
hardly be called celebrities, not even in Free Software circles.)

Aside from that, I find it a bit ironic that you post your statement to
a list with the following footer: 
 
> #  distributed via : no commercial use without permission

What does that line mean if not using the "so-called legal system and IP
property laws"?

To use an analogy to the Linksys/FSF case: What would you do if some 
corporate publisher would release a book on Internet culture based on
Nettime postings - including your own ones -, but without (a)
acknowledging the source and (b) without having asked anyone for
permission? Would you mind if, for example, Felix or Ted as the Nettime
moderators would enter negotiations with that company, proposing (just
as the FSF did) an amicable settlement to the effect that the contents
of the book must be made freely available in the Internet?

-F

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Re: Linux strikes back III

[Florian Cramer]

Am Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2003 um 11:48:53 Uhr (-0700) schrieb Morlock Elloi:
> 
> > A gentle proposition given that the product was in breach with the GPL.
> > Alternatively, the FSF could have asked to revoke all Linksys routers
> > from the market and pay, say $10 compensation for each unit already
> > sold. (In other words: $4M which could be used, for example, to pay
> > Linus Torvalds the next ten or twenty years for Linux kernel
> > development.)
> 
> The whole FSF/GPL thing is silly, and the above illustrates that - it all
> simply boils down to money. FSF/GPL messiahs captured the imagination of many,
> and as any other religion got a lots of free work done, and then capitalized on
> that big time.
> 
> Why should FSF be paid ? Or L.Torvalds ? Because they appear on TV ?

Well, they didn't ask for $4M (as in my hypothetical scenario, and as
any commercial software company would have done whose licenses had been
breached), but for releasing the modified code in public. So I don't
know what you take issue with?!

-F

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Re: Linux strikes back III

[Florian Cramer]

Am Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2003 um 09:56:37 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Martin Hardie:

> In the light of the SCO stuff some may find this report of use ...

It's an incredible piece of FUD written by a journalist who is known as
a Free Software hater.  The text has been properly debunked in the
following Slashdot discussion:
.

 
> The Lindon, Utah, company has outraged Linux lovers by suing IBM (nyse:
> IBM - news - people ), claiming IBM stole Unix code and put it into Linux.

The opening sentence alone is not correct. SCO does not own
"Unix". "Unix" is a trademark of the Open Group (formerly: X/Open). 
An operating system can be legally called "Unix" when it passes the Open
Group Unix certification process which itself checks the compliance of
an operating system to the "Single Unix Specification" published by the
Open Group.  

The term "Unix" does not refer to specific code, or, technically
speaking, to a specific implementation of the Single Unix Specification.
What SCO does own, via a history of sales, company buy-outs and
re-brandings, is the copyrights to the (quite ancient) Unix System V
sourcecode originally developed by the AT&T Bell Labs. 

And finally, the SCO vs. IBM case is not about copyright, but about
contract law.
 
> For months, in secret, the Free Software Foundation, a Boston-based group
> that controls the licensing process for Linux and other "free" programs,

The FSF doesn't control the licensing "process" of the GPL, but is the
author of that license and acts, if developers wish it, as a legal
enforcement organization for GPL compliance. While the FSF and Richard
Stallman are very vocal in their Free Software evangelism, issues with
GPL non-compliance (i.e. companies that released GPLed code with 
proprietary, non-published extensions or modifications) are normally
being settled in a rather quiet, diplomatic matter.

> has been making threats to Cisco Systems (nasdaq: CSCO - news - people )
> and Broadcom (nasdaq: BRCM - news - people ) over a networking router that
> runs the Linux operating system.
> 
> The router is made by Linksys, a company Cisco acquired in June. It lets
> you hook computers together on a wireless Wi-Fi network, employing a
> high-speed standard called 802.11g. Aimed at home users, the $129 device
> has been a smash hit, selling 400,000 units in the first quarter of this
> year alone.
> 
> But now there's a problem. The Linux software in the router is distributed
> under the GNU General Public License (GPL), which the Free Software
> Foundation created in 1991.
> 
> Under the license, if you distribute GPL software in a product, you must
> also distribute the software's source code. And not just the GPL code, but
> also the code for any "derivative works" you've created--even if
> publishing that code means anyone can now make a knockoff of your product.

Get that twisted logic of the writer? To get things straight:

- Cisco/Broadcom got, thanks to Linux and the GPL, the operating system
  for their wireless router not only free, but also with sourcecode and 
  the right to customize it for their own needs, without paying license fees
  for any of these rights. If they instead had to license a proprietary 
  OS for embedded devices - like QNX or Windows CE -, they wouldn't have been 
  able to sell their product at $129, making it a "smash hit, selling 
  400,000 units". Indeed, this is a perfect example of how Free Software
  helps capitalism.

- All that the GPL asks for in turn is that additions or modifications
  of the free code used must also be made free. In fact, this clause
  even helps companies using and releasing GPLed code, because it means
  that no competitor can take the code and modify or extend into a 
  proprietary product (like Microsoft did with Kerberos, which was
  released under the BSD license and therefore could be used for
  proprietary code).

> Not great news if you're Cisco, which paid $500 million for Linksys. In

If they paid the $500 million for Linksys' software expertise or
supposed "intellectual property" without researching in advance that the
Linksys simply runs Linux as its router firmware, then it's Cisco's own
stupidity to pay so much.

 
> For several months, officials from the Free Software Foundation have been
> quietly pushing Cisco and Broadcom for a resolution. According to Free
> Software Foundation Executive Director Bradley Kuhn, the foundation is
> demanding that Cisco and Broadcom either a) rip out all the Linux code in
> the router and use some other operating system, 

A gentle proposition given that the product was in breach with the GPL.
Alternatively, the FSF could have asked to revoke all Linksys routers
from the market and pay, say $10 compensation for each unit already
sold. (In other words: $4M which could be used, for example, to pay
Linus Torvalds the next ten or twenty years for Linux kernel
development.)

> or b) make their 

unstable digest vol 68

[Florian Cramer]

 integer < 40,000. (Of course further reduction
is possible by virtue of binary or unary mapping.)

We have in addition S({E}), where
S = the substructure or ordering-site (Peirce's
"sheet of assertion"); {E} (a set of finite subsets
of P) is mapped onto S.

Then clearly [P, E, S({E})] is the general form of
literature - in particular, religious or other
traditional or exemplary texts (including their
diacritical and extra-alphabetic graphemes) - issues
of practicality, decidability, etc. notwithstanding.



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Subject: Trying To See the DOES'


Trying To See the DOES'

GorakH BabA made Bharthari pUt dowN MOti STag
You muSt rEalize BhaRthari
YOu Must realiZe BhArthari
One Stag and Seventy Hundred Windows
Why Did You Kill the Animal

  1.. /mänaD/ 'mind-dignity'
  /män + aD/ 'to be agree + come'
  2.. /pärdesi/ 'foreigner'
  /pärde + si/ 'curtains + sew (imp.)'

YOu Must pUt dowN MOti STag
and Seventy Hundred Windows
Gorakh Nath Gorakh Baba Nath Baba King Bharthari Panvar of Dhara Nagar
You muSt rEalize BhaRthari
YOu Must realiZe BhArthari
Honored King, I killed hiM But Listen
listen that harmless life, listen to my news,
gam 'village/villages' raja 'king/kingschoro 'boy'chora 'boys'ghoRo 'horse'ghoRa 
'horseschori 'girl'choriã 'girls'kitab 'book'  kitabã 'bookschoro'boy'morio 
'peacockchori 'girl'ghoRi 'marerajästhanäN 'Rajasthani woman'sãnsäN 'Sansi 
womankagät(m.) 'paper'jämat(f.) 'class'
He sprinkled it with drops of the elixir of life,
you mUst realize Bharthari, you made seventy HundreD WinDows ToDaY,
Listen Panvar, you must realize
He took off the shEet
GorakH BabA made Bharthari take off the sheet
SteP thrU the Seventy Hundred MOti STag Windows
But Listen

  N Po
  N choro 
  O chorE 
  A chorE+ nE/ku nE/ku
  I chorE + su~ su~
  A chorE + su~ su~
  P chorE + ko/ki/ka ko(ms.)/ki(fs/p.)/ka (mp.)
  Lo chorE + mE/pär mE/pär
  Vo o chora 


Why Did You Kill the Animal pUt dowN with elixir of life,
that harmless life, listen to my news,
Gorakh Nath Gorakh Baba Nath
Put down the Deer, KINg
and Go to my City of Ujjain
and give it to Qu:een PinG[ala].***
{>I >have one of her nanoseconds that she used to
give away after her >lectures. That should date me.}

+||+||+++||+++

Voices and Musicians:
Group of Rajasthani musicians, camel fair, Pushkar
Kamal Kothari's group of Rajasthani musicians, Jodhpur
Sitar, played by Arun Patak in music shop, Old Delhi
Situ Singh-Bühler, mezzo soprano, Delhi
Snake Charmer, Lodi Gardens, Delhi
Sarangi player, Madore Park, Jodhpur
Vendor, Janak Puri, Delhi
Young boy singing, camel fair, Pushkar, Rajasthan





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Re: A Puff Piece on Wikipedia (Fwd)

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Dear Florian,  

Not surprsingly, I disagree strongly w/ the responding 
person's take on this.  
However, this isn't important enough to me 
for me to spend any further time on it 
so this may be my last word on the subject.  
Feel free to also forward this if so inclined.
 
> While the alterations made are surely a matter of opinion or
> perspective: 

As are the original comments re JHU.  
The difference, perhaps, is that the original comments 
POSE as 'objectivity'. 

> If someone 'messes' with 'my' wiki in a similar way I'd
> also re-edit it.  

On the other hand, the potential strength of Wikipedia 
is its openness.  The question is:  
Are the entries made by anyone who wishes to 
or are they kept to one viewpoint only?  
It's not just an issue of re-editing, 
it's an issue of completely removing content 
that the "re-editor" presumably found objectionable 
to their skew.  
The "anon" changes didn't REMOVE any of the text 
that they were responding to.  
They simply responded to it in a way intended to 
to give a more well-rounded view of JHU 
& by using a language unacceptable to 
the pseudo-objectivity of the puff piece.  
Note that the commentator quoted above 
encloses the words 'messes' & 'my' in apostrophes 
- presumably w/ the intent of questioning those 2 concepts.  
That's precisely the issue here.  
Wikipedia entries don't BELONG to anyone.  
Alterations to entries are not "messing" w/ them, 
they are legitimate partakings in the entry process.   
Any entries I might make to Wikipedia 
ARE open to the revisions of others 
- even if I disagree w/ them. 

> Specially the remark, that this was done within less than 30 minutes
> points more to the activity of a WikiGardener than to one of a person
> from the said instituion.
> 
> You would not EARNESTLY (pardon me for shouting) believe, that a PR
> person from Johns Hopkins has nothing else to do than monitor a
> WikiPage several times an hour (even if by a script or
> changedetection.com or the likes) and re-edit it if necessary?

That's a good point.  The person may not be specifically 
employed by JHU.  However, they have a strong vested interest 
of some sort for making sure ONE opinion dominates 
on the subject w/in the Wikipedia context.  
  
> Before anyone indulges in paranoia they should just check the obvious:
> Someone writing about JHU every day would rather not want the stuff
> from the fyi-guy in there.

I find the above to be contradictory.  
The point is exactly that 
"Someone writing about JHU every day would rather not want the stuff 
from the fyi-guy in there." 
SO, why is that paranoid?  
If Wikipedia is to be open to anyone's participation 
why is the opinion of the JHU person 
more important than the "fyi-guy"'s?  
Because the "JHU person" represents an "elite institution" 
& the "fyi-guy" is speaking from the perspective 
of the impoverished community that JHU occupies 
such a privileged position w/in?
 
> IMO this quick re-edit is proof that the wiki-system (or: wikipedia)
> works: Any nonsense will quickly be removed ;)

Why is it nonsense?  
The point is that the JHU puff piece 
IS the nonsense 
& if it's not removed 
why shd any commentary about it be?


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A Puff Piece on Wikipedia (Fwd)

[Florian Cramer]

Forwarded, with permission, from my friend tENTATIVELY, a cONVENIENCE. -
I think this raises interesting questions about the integrity and
politics of open content, collaborative online projects and knowledge
repositories.

-F

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Subject: A Puff Piece of Wikipedia

Dear Florian,  

It appears that Wikipedia is used as an advertising outlet 
for "elite institutions".  Note the alterations I made 
to the Johns Hopkins University entry below. 
I'm sure you'll be able to pick them out.  
They're only in the 1st paragraph.  
My additions were replaced w/in 23 minutes!  
I suspect that a PR person for JHU monitors & polices 
all content relevant to them.  

Johns Hopkins University

(Revision as of 15:54, 24 Sep 2003) 

The Johns Hopkins University is an elite institution of higher learning
located in Baltimore, Maryland. As such, it is known to some as "The
Plantation". Most of its students are rich people being groomed for
ruling elite positions who are blissfully ignorant of the extremely
impoverished conditions that surround their highly privileged
environment. Their wealth helps drastically escalate the rents beyond
the means of working people. The university opened February 22, 1876,
with the stated goal of "The encouragement of research ... and the
advancement of individual scholars, who by their excellence will advance
the sciences they pursue, and the society where they dwell." (first
President Daniel Coit Gilman). It is named for Johns Hopkins, who left
seven million dollars (ill-gotten gains from gun running during the
Civil War) in his 1867 will for the foundation of The Johns Hopkins
University and The Johns Hopkins Hospital. Johns Hopkins was the first
research university in the United States, founded on the model of German
research institutions. As such, it was the first American university to
offer an undergraduate major (as opposed to a purely liberal arts
curriculum), and the first American university to grant doctoral
degrees. 

The university was designed from the start to marry scholarship and
research, and graduate education has always been paramount. Students at
Johns Hopkins are encouraged to pursue original research at the
undergraduate and graduate levels, and nearly 80% of Johns Hopkins
undergrads produce research by the time of graduation. The School of
Medicine is highly revered, and the Bloomberg School of Public Health is
renowned for contributions worldwide to preventive medicine and the
health of large populations. The Johns Hopkins School of Advanced
International Studies, located in Washington D.C. is recognized as a
world leader in international affairs, diplomacy and government studies.
The university offers education internationally through centers in
China, Singapore and Italy. Johns Hopkins receives more federal research
grants than any other university, and operates the Applied Physics
Laboratory which specializes in nuclear research for the Department of
Defense. Johns Hopkins also offers superior undergraduate programs based
at the Homewood campus in Baltimore: The Zanvyl Krieger School of Arts &
Sciences and the G.W.C. Whiting School of Engineering, which contribute
to Johns Hopkins' reputation as one of the nation's most prestigious
universities. Some of the many strong departments at Johns Hopkins are
History, International Studies, English, Political Science, Biology,
German, Near Eastern Studies, Romance Languages, Art History,
Biophysics, Biomedical Engineering, Film and Media Studies, and
Astronomy. The French Department is recognized as a "center of
excellence" in the study of French culture and language by the
government of France. 

The school's sports teams are named the Blue Jays. They participate in
the NCAA's Division III, and the Centennial Conference. The school's
most prominent sports team is their Division I lacrosse team, which has
won 42 national titles.  The National Lacrosse Hall of Fame is adjacent
to the university. 

Some well-known alumni: 

   Spiro T. Agnew - Vice President of the United States 
   Madeleine Albright - Secretary of State under Bill Clinton 
   John Astin - actor, Gomez Adams on The Addams Family 
   Russell Baker - author, Pulitzer Prize winner, host Masterpiece
   Theater 
   John Barth - novelist 
   Michael Bloomberg - Founder of Bloomberg LP, mayor of New York
   City 
   Rudy Boschwitz - Republican Senator from Minnesota 
   Rachel Carson - enivornmentalist, Silent Spring 
   J.D. Considine - music critic 
   Richard Ben Cramer - journalist, author What It Takes, Pulitzer
   Prize winner 
   Wes Craven - film director 
   Robert W. Fogel - economist, Nobel Prize in Economics, 1993 
   Herbert Spencer Gasser - Nobel Prize in Physiology, 1944 
   Paul Greengard - biophysicist, Nobel Prize in Medicine, 2000 
 

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From: "edx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Florian Cramer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Subject: Another try at a Code Poem
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:42:23 -0400

OK, let's pick something simple (though that may be the problem) like Death,
like as in the death of someone else.

Now how would you code that? In CODE, death is a crash, and the first and
foremost thing code must not do is crash. So perhaps for this poem, maybe we
want the app the crash? Perhaps an obvious thing like an autobiography that
crashes the OS at age 76?

Or to be more general, what if we documented the app author's death? CODE
and temporal order, debugging a simple little script from the Beyond. No -
that won't do!

So what else can we do? What if we treat death like an error and trap for
it? That works for code but not biological organisms, which raises the
question - to what extent are WE still biological?

So what if we just stipulate that some entity is dying, without worrying
about it's metaphysical constitution. It could be a way of thinking or a
mass of protoplasm, what's the difference, ultimately? No matter how finely
your abstract this, this means people, cities, civilizations will die, but's
let's go ahead and see what happens.

By the dialectical principle, we know that death is absolution in birth, so
we now see why it is possible to debug, criticize, or even think in the
first place.

So the code might go like this:

[poem follows, I will send later, but here's an outline]

Given(Death)

for each (glimpse of life)

SendToMemory(glimpse of life)

next
End the Given


SendToMemory(a)
{
//test here if the incoming data is worth remembering

//test here if it has been heard before

//continue testing, then if it passes

//transform the incoming data

//record the transformed data if it gets this far
}

Again, this is a shit poor example of a Code Poem, it won't compile or run,
and it certainly doesn't meet the criteria for a code poem I suggested
earlier.

Even the simplest code poem would compile on both a human and machine OS.






Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:05:25 +1000
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Subject: Re:  LED/LCD displays (4 images)


=_1064239058-635-1016

At 10:55 PM 21/09/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>continuing with the idea of an LED
>numeric or alphanumeric display as
>a new type of hardware


_Sub.Mission[s]_
09:48pm 22/09/2003
   _Submission Details:_ Good thematic without being too obvious. The fact 
that they are open to realistic hybrid-collaboration is good. Very 
competent cvs and professsionalism evident. Would work well with a more 
experimentally-directed collaboration set.

_Support Material:_
i) Audio [xxx]: well-paced and innovative but slightly formulaic in 
terms of soundtrackesqueness. Might be a problem when seeking to pair with 
a writer/txter than uses other benchmarkers in terms of actual x 
construction.

ii) Video [xx]: production stills illustrate competent visual 
referencing and potential for image creation. Video constructions are 
filmic in intent and slickly produced [high production values evident] but 
possibly too polished [rigid] for x unless paired with appropriate 
collaborator.


RATINGS:
- ARTISTIC VALUE OF CONCEPT: 7/10
- POTENTIAL FOR ARTISTIC REALISATION: 8/10
- VALUE OF EXPERIENCE/INTERPRETED CAPACITY TO COMPLETE PROJECT: 9.5/10

--


_Submission Details:_ CV slightly sketchy due to the early stage of 
careers. Submission concept more digitally inclined which is promising, but 
overall limited strength of submission direction.

_Support Material:_
i) Videos: good integration of digital affects, less centred on fimic 
conventions. Nice reworking of video material.

ii) Text: Less strong in terms of

Re: Don't Call it Art: Ars Electronica 2003

[Florian Cramer]

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Am Montag, 22. September 2003 um 23:25:41 Uhr (+0200) schrieb august:
> First of all, something that had been addressed many times at this years
> README festival, especially by the curators themselves, was that a certain
> kind of drive hides behind this push towards software art.  Some may call
> it an agenda.  Strangely enough the push is coming more from curators and
> writers (most of which have no or little programming experience) rather
> than from the practicing artists.

Being one of the read_me/runme.org "experts" (and ae speakers) myself, I
agree that the term "software art" is a coinage of curators and critics.
But I don't think that's a bad thing at all; all the more since it was a
reaction to a clear, observable trend towards working not only with, but
on software in digital/net art. The earliest literal mention of
"software art" I know of is in Alex Galloway's 1999 writeup "Year in
Review: State of net.art 99" :

   Software art is not new. Ever since a collective of British outlaw
   artists wrote the code for I/O/D 4--a carnivorous browsing application
   known as the "Webstalker"--artists have been twisting and tweaking
   the very tools we use to surf the web. Yet with artist/programmer
   Maciej Wisniewski's Netomat (www.netomat.net), which premiered earlier
   this summer at New York's Postmasters Gallery, we see a new level of
   intensity, a new commitment to coding.

Saul Albert's longer essay "Artware"
, which appeared in the
same year, draws even more elaborate connections between early concept art,
software by artists like John Simon and Mongrel, hacker culture and Free
Software. In 2000, Andreas Broeckmann created a "software" category for
the transmediale festival as a consequence of his own observations which
were similar to the above.

> But, Judd was writing his own critiques, wasn't he?  I didn't see a
> history of art-categorism in Manovich's text.  Maybe that is part of the
> larger context to which he is alluding?

What I don't understand in Lev's text is his argument that software art
was not "contemporary art" just because contemporary art wouldn't
support art that is bound to specific media (or material). My own
perception of contemporary art as it can be seen in galleries,
art fairs, museum exhibitions and art journals is quite different: It
seems to roughly fall into two categories, which themselves are strongly
bound to specific media: (a) large-size painting and photography for
private collectors, (b) installation art (often involving video) by and
for academics trained in cultural studies. No contemporary art system is
agnostic to media/material for the simple reason that it needs artwork
that fits its into particular exhibition architecture and economical
framework (and that applies to an exhibition like Documenta just as to
ars electronica).

My personal reason to care for software art and other digital arts at all
is not that it is software or digital, but that there is remarkable
contemporary art being made in its realms.

> But, maybe the question is whether art is soft?
> By that, I mean after a slow and consistent breakdown over the last 100
> years of paintings on walls and sculptures on pedistals down to
> installations in space and concepts at large, wouldn't it be relatively
> easy (and maybe naive) to construct softer borders between categories of
> art.  'New Media' was once called intermedia or integrated media, wasn't
> it? Besides that, Sol Lewitt was making software art long ago, nay?

I see one important difference between early conceptual art and
contemporary software art in that the former strived, as Lucy Lippard
called it, for "dematerialization" and, where it actually used the term
software (such in Jack Burnhams 1970s exhibition of the same name or in
the "Radical Software" magazine), understood it as a puristic
intellectual laboratory construct. In contrast, contemporary software
art treats software as an unclean material (involving bugs, crashes,
incompatibities) which is not purely syntactical, but loaded with
cultural semantics, aesthetic associations and even politics;
experimental web browsers and and game modifications are cheap, but
still good examples.

> Another understanding at README seemed to be that software is becoming
> more and more entrenched in our daily lives, and that it is quite
> 'natural' that this mixture of art and software should come about.

Yes, and I see this viewpoint embedded into the contemporary software
art itself.

> really aiming at situating both software and art in larger contexts.  With
> CODE as its title, it _appears_ as if the Ars wanted to address art and
> software and culture and societyand on and on., which would be a
> positive step away from a software art label.

The problem, a

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[Florian Cramer]

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Re: Your question

[Florian Cramer]

Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2003 um 16:06:30 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Are
Flagan:

> Final sentence from: Lev Manovich, Don't Call it Art: Ars Electronica
> 2003
> 
> "Today, when pretty much every artist and cultural producer is widely
> using computers while also typically being motivated by many other
> themes and discourses, is it in fact possible that "digital art"
> happens everywhere else but not within the spaces of Ars Electronica
> festival?"
> 
> Good question. But likewise, today, when pretty much every theorist
> and writer on digital culture is widely quoting the same texts, while
> typically also being motivated by quite transparent, self-serving
> agendas, is it in fact possible that "new media theory" happens
> everywhere else but not within the claustrophobic spaces of events and
> writings thus headlined?

I would like to share your optimism, but at least in the realms of
academia, cultural journalism/criticism and contemporary arts, I don't see
it happen. The cultural ubiquity of computing and the Internet which Lev
writes about in his piece is one thing, computer literacy and awareness of
cultural and political issues of digital technology quite another.

The mainstream of academic cultural studies of the Internet, for example,
is roughly ten years behind what we discuss here and still bragging about
cyber-this, virtual-that, visual-xy.  And it seems to get worse: It is
hard to find people these days who don't mistake the Microsoft Windows
desktop - which has mainstreamed Internet user interfaces (through its
default, "standard" browser and E-Mail clients) radically in comparison to
the situation ten or even five years ago - for the computer in general.

I might be wrong, but I don't see much cultural computer literacy outside
either hacker camps - which are weak at theory - or the net cultures
organized around a number of old-fashioned mailing lists (such as Nettime)
and festival gatherings.

-F

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[Florian Cramer]

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 15:19:57 +0100
Subject: Re:  unstable digest vol 63
To: Florian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: tiago borges da silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>


r.u.portuguese?

what's that email about? is it a virus? ... i got confused

*

> é uma pena, repetiu três vezes. falhou na primeira, falhou na segunda, 
> e
> na terceira vou ver se conseguiu dar-lhe, como se vê aqui, de um só
> jacto. e de uma forma impressionante como se via. e eu fui, fui atrás 
> do
> pano onde ela representava, não é, para a felicitar, e ela tinha
> desatado num choro convulso, portanto acabava de sair de uma canção
> nervosa de incomodá-la.
>
> olhe, um momento por favor.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> vamos baixar um bocado a música. e eu agora [...] na música
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> tou aqui.




Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 00:04:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: portholeaccel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: syn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: thar_shri_another truelove adventure

thar_shri: http://profiles.yahoo.com/thar_shri

=
depARTURES Vs. arRIVALS
_
*Bullauge Beschleuniger*


   http://www.porthole-accelerator.org



From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hello World
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 21:41:04 -0400 (EDT)




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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:37:16 -0700
From: Lewis LaCook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: more drastic][][][][][][]][][][][]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: SPAMandVIRIImakeITdie-digest [Chris Welsh, Morlock Elloi]

[Florian Cramer]

Am Samstag, 13. September 2003 um 06:37:08 Uhr (-0400) schrieb Nettime:
 
> There is no solution for the unwashed masses. That is the price of
> monoculture.  If you want millions that have no real clue what
> computers are to have a single "user friednly" OS of choice, than that
> one becomes the target. That will not change.

Right, and the actual problem with Windows is a userbase which 
largely doesn't even know (a) how to work under an account
without superuser/administator priviledges (under WinNT/2000/XP) and (b)
to use different E-Mail clients than Outlook Express. None of the recent
viruses would have done any harm if the above two conditions were
met.

Both MacOS X and GNU/Linux have security holes in their userland
announced every week, many of which are remotely exploitable and give an
attacker superuser priviledges on a cracked computer. MacOS X may be
potentially more vulnerable because, by the nature of its distribution,
its installations are much less diverse and contain much more
software/services by default than the countless distributions and
individual setups of GNU/Linux and the free BSDs. (For example, an RPC
hole in GNU/Linux or NetBSD would affect only a minority of systems
running NFS services.)  Still, the default factory setup of both MacOS X
and free Unix-like operating systems is more secure than Windows,
and it helps that users of minority platforms are typically better
skilled and apply the necessary software updates.

If the mainstream of Windows users would run broken and unmaintained
MacOS X or GNU/Linux systems, the exploits could be even worse than in
Windows because both systems offer better remote administration through
the commandline. One could be almost thankful for Microsoft that its OS
creates a honeypot for the computer illiterate.

Microsoft can be blamed, however, for setting up the default
installations of Windows in a blatantly insecure way: with various open
network ports/services, default user accounts with administrator
priviledges, with Internet clients (IE/Outlook Express) that are
insecure by design through their integration into the OS and its
scripting/programming interfaces, by allowing - by default - the
execution of remote binary Windows code (a.k.a. "ActiveX") without any
security measures (like sandboxing in a virtual machine), and by closely
integrating network services with the internal component/object model of
Windows so that disabling all network services leaves a Windows system
unusable to the point that even copy/paste or the file find dialog don't
work any more.*


-F


* In contrast, GNU/Linux and *BSD can be set up so that they
don't open network ports at all, even without firewalling, by commenting
out all lines in /etc/inetd.conf, replacing printer spoolers like
lpr/cups with pdq and MTA like sendmail/exim/postfix/qmail with
nullmailer or ssmtp.

-- 
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blitzfreeeze: hit 999 if you deal with trojans or pm
me plz !
shewulf: ill try that later
illegal_intruder!: yep
blitzfreeeze: hit 999 if you deal with trojans or pm
me plz !
muffinmanatk joined the room
|||J|||U|||D|||G|||E|||:
Obi Wan: No but i am just now
shewulf: i only have one email addy tho steven
Jer: tell me what you want
quennrvm: hit 911 if you have to deal with idiots here
ss_linky left the room
shewulf: lol@ 911
muffinmanatk: 911
Jer: I'm trying to listen to someting before I go to
bed...
shewulf: o0o u mean i have a yahoo email account?
shewulf: lol
shewulf: my im dense
|||J|||U|||D|||G|||E|||: Hey fly wats ur profession?
|||J|||U|||D|||G|||E|||: Like wat do u do?
Jer: come on
Jer: hurry
fly0nthe_wall: i teach network security at a
university
quennrvm: omg just reading these lines my hair hurts
|||J|||U|||D|||G|||E|||: kool.
muffinmanatk: the government hacks, so why csh French
tan(ned) bronzé/e
bald chauve
blond hair cheveux blonds
brown hant we?
fatz great
loveme2beyours joined the room
shewulf: thats a nice email addy
|||J|||U|||D|||G|||E|||: emphasizing on security
|||J|||U|||D|||G|||E|||: hmm good.
Jer: ok - going for the indus
shewulf: but i hardly ever read emails

loveme2beyours: greetings


=


NEW!!!--Dirty Milk--reactive poem for microphone http://www.lewislacook.com/DirtyMilk/

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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:08:13 -0700
From: MWP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2 Moire Displacements - LINK
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MOIRE DISPLACEMENTS 01f2
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if ($ !~ $xxx2

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http://www.aroseisaroseisarose.com/MD01f2.html


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Re: [Fwd: Re: [ox-en] Felix Stalder: Six Limitations to the Current Open Source Development Methodology]

[Florian Cramer]

Am Dienstag, 26. August 2003 um 17:07:02 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Felix
Stalder:
 
> These limitations refer to the kind of problems that can be addressed
> through the current form of social organization developed in the Open
> Source Movement. The way Open Source Projects are organized reflects
> the specifics of problem -- developing software -- and thus they
> cannot serve as a model to address problem with very different
> characteristics.
> 
> This does not mean that other problems, for example, the development
> of drugs, cannot be organized in an open way, but this 'open way' will
> have to look very different from the way Open Source Software projects
> are organized because the problem of creating drugs is very different
> from the problem of creating software. In other words, there is an
> intimate relationship between the characteristics of the problem and
> the social organization of its solution.

A good example are "Open Content" licenses. They have departed
significantly from Free Software/Open Source licenses wherever they allow
to restrict modification and commercial distribution of a work. Therefore,
the two major "Open Content" licenses, the GNU Free Documentation License
(used by, among others, the Wikipedia) and the Open Publication License,
are non-free or non-Open Source. As a consequence, the Debian project
recently considered moving software documentation released under the GNU
GDL into its non-free section. - The same is true, btw., for the 12
licenses "Creative Commons"  offers of
which only 4 qualify as "Free" or "Open Source" according to the Debian
Free Software Guidelines and the Open Source Definition. If "Open Content"
needs other legal regulations than Free Software, then obviously because
of the different social issues of writing, for example, books as opposed
to writing software. (Which doesn't mean that these fields couldn't
converge very soon - for example through the need for authors to write
complex XML markup, use revision control and content management systems
etc., so that the traditional distinction will get more and more blurred.)

Nevertheless, this is a good opportunity to question the venerable
copyright statement of Nettime:

"distributed via : no commercial use without permission".

In order to turn Nettime into a truly public and free resource, I suggest
to change this line into

"distributed via ; unless stated otherwise by the author,
permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document
under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.1"


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lbdbq kabila

[Florian Cramer]

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 08:49:20 +0300 (EEST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Jenny

>Jenny
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>#@@@,  ##  07932-0971  973-360-8728  @  973-360-8871  @@@.

Home Reklama Taxi Reality Erotika Hotely

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2 adolf hitler
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5 american
6 american flag
7 andrea thompson
8 angelina jolie
9 anna kournikova
10 anthrax
11 audiogalaxy
12 backstreet boys
13 barbie
14 baseball
15 big
16 big brother
17 blink-182
18 britney spears
19 brooke burke
20 buffy the vampire slayer
21 carmen electra
22 cnn
23 costumes
24 dale earnhardt
25 darva
26 destiny's child
27 diablo ii
28 diets
29 digimon
30 dragonball
31 easter
32 election
33 electoral
34 eminem
35 euro
36 exit
37 fbi
38 final fantasy
39 florida
40 gnutella
41 golf
42 greek mythology
43 half-life counter-strike
44 halloween
45 harry
46 harry potter
47 howard stern
48 christina aquilera
49 christmas
50 irs
51 islam
52 jennifer
53 jennifer lopez
54 kazaa
55 kylie minogue
56 las vegas
57 limp bizkit
58 loft
59 london
60 lord
61 lord of the rings
62 madonna
63 mariah carey
64 marijuana
65 martha stewart
66 martin luther king
67 metallica
68 morpheus
69 mortage rates
70 'n sync
71 napster
72 nasa
73 nascar
74 nba
75 neopets
76 new york city
77 nfl
78 nimda
79 nostradamus
80 olympic
81 olympics
82 oprah winfrey
83 osama
84 osama bin laden
85 pamela anderson
86 paris
87 pearl harbor
88 playstation 2
89 pokemon
90 powerball
91 prom dresses
92 sailor moon
93 science fair projects
94 shakespeare
95 shakira
96 skateboarding
97 slipknot
98 soccer
99 south park
100 star trek
101 star wars
102 survivor
103 svetlana
104 sydney
105 taliban
106 tatiana
107 tattos
108 taxes
109 terrorism
110 the beatles
111 the bible
112 the holocaust
113 the simpsons
114 the sims
115 tomb raider
116 tupac shakur
117 valentine's day
118 viagra
119 vote
120 wap
121 windows
122 windows xp
123 winnie the pooh
124 world
125 world trade center
126 world war ii
127 wwf
128 xbox
129 x-men





Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 02:06:55 +0200
From: pascale gustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: orchid








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nettime unstable digest vol 61
Sun Aug 24 11:19:35 2003


Subject: lbdbq kabila
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To: 7-11 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: 
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Subject: Question...
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PORTAL
From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  

unstable digest vol 60

[Florian Cramer]

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To: "Florian Cramer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 09:48:00 +1000

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To: "WSIS eFlash Subscribers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 8:15 PM
Subject: WSIS E-FLASH #7


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From: pascale gustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: e a t h e i n s t r u c t i o n
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:48:23 +0200












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sysni syscall   r/served for getxattr
sys__ni syscall /30 reserved for lgetxattr
sys_ni_syscal reservedf/rfgetxattr

sysn.y.s.c.a.l.l. r.e.s.e.r.v.e.d.f.o.r.l.i.s.t.x.a.t.t.r.
sys___i.s.y.s.c.a.l. r.e.s.e.r.v.e.d.f.o.r.l.l.i.s.t.x.a.t.t.r.
sys_n.i.s.y.s.c.a.l.l.reservedforflistxattr
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sometimes a cigar is just a cigar




















las autoridades sanitarias advierten que el tabaco perjudica seriamente la salud





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[Florian Cramer]

st vol 59
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Fwd: Debian celebrates its 10th Birthday

[Florian Cramer]

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Subject: Debian celebrates its 10th Birthday (gmx)


The Debian Project http://www.debian.org/events/
Debian celebrates its 10th Birthday[EMAIL PROTECTED]
August 11th, 2003   http://www.debian.org/News/2003/20030811


Debian celebrates its 10th birthday

On August 16th, the Debian Project will celebrate its 10th birthday
with several parties around the globe.  The Debian Project was
officially founded by Ian Murdock on August 16th, 1993.  At that time,
the whole concept of a "distribution" of GNU/Linux was new.  Ian
intended Debian to be a distribution which would be made openly, in
the spirit of Linux and GNU.  The creation of Debian was sponsored by
the FSF's GNU project for one year.

Debian was meant to be carefully and conscientiously put together, and
to be maintained and supported with similar care.  It started as a
small, tightly-knit group of Free Software hackers, and gradually grew
to become a large, well-organized community of developers and users.
To achieve and maintain high standards of quality, Debian has adopted
an extensive set of policies and procedures for packaging and delivering
software.  These standards are backed up by tools, automation, and
documentation implementing all of Debian's key elements in an open and
visible way.

The most prominent guidelines are the Debian Free Software Guidelines[1]
which are part of the Social Contract and which direct Debian's
interpretation of Free Software and upon which the Debian distribution
is based.  They were later adopted as the Open Source Definition.

More than 1,100 people are registered as developers in the Debian
project and an additional two hundred have applied to join the
project's ranks.  Organisationally, the Debian Project has a project
leader[2], who is supported by a secretary[3] and several
delegates[4].  The distribution is tripartite these days, consisting
of the stable release (current codename ``woody''), the testing
distribution (current codename ``sarge'') which will become the next
stable release, and the unstable distribution (codename ``sid'') with
more than 12,000 binary packages[5] where development efforts are
primarily focused.

The Debian Project is celebrating its birthday at various places[6]
around the globe, since a single large party doesn't seem appropriate
for a project which is spread worldwide[7].  Some parties are simply a
social get-together at a restaurant, while others are organised for
larger audience.

The following list only enumerates the largest birthday parties[8].

   Czech Republic
  Where: Brno
  What: Celebration
  Registration: http://www.penguin.cz/~skim/10deb

   Finland
  Where: Turku
  What: Birthday meeting
  Registration: 
http://www.linux-aktivaattori.org/twiki/bin/view/Bazaar/DebianBirthdayTurku2003

   Germany
  Where: Wallenrod
  What: Barbecue and party
  Registration: http://www.infodrom.org/Debian/party/

  Where: Berlin
  What: Party outside
  Info: http://buug.de/deb10/

   United Kingdom
  Where: Cambridge
  What: Party and barbecue
  Information: http://the.earth.li/~huggie/cgi-bin/moin/Debian10thBirthday

More parties are planned in Alaska, Australia, Austria, Belarus,
Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Colombia, Czech Republic, Finland, Germany,
Japan, Mexico, Netherlands, Peru, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden,
Switzerland, Taiwan and in the United States.  For a party in your
area, please check the full list of parties[6].

We invite all interested people to attend these parties, meet Debian
developers and users, exchange GnuPG fingerprints, discuss various
topics on Debian and Free Software, and otherwise participate in our
vibrant community.

Links:
 1. http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
 2. http://www.debian.org/devel/leader
 3. http://www.debian.org/devel/secretary
 4. http://www.debian.org/intro/organization
 5. http://master.debian.org/~joey/archive/overview.html
 6. http://www.debconf.org/10years/
 7. http://www.debian.org/events/materials/posters/worldmap/
 8. http://www.debian.org/events/2003/0816-birthday


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hrough the night, my wings have 
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mechanic has
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in prayer.

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}$words[$x],$spaces[$x+1],$words[$x-4]," ",$words[$x-3],
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opencontent.org dissolves and stalls its licenses

[Florian Cramer]

As can be read on Slashdot
 and
opencontent.org  itself, 
www.opencontent.org, the site which in 1998 coined the concept of "Open
Content" is about to dissolve. Its two popular licenses, the Open
Content License and, even more importantly, the Open Publication License
(used among others by O'Reilly and Prentice Hall publishers) will no
longer be maintained and supported. 

Instead, opencontent.org creator David Wiley
 will join the "Creative Commons" project
 as a "Director of Educational
Licenses" and therefore advocate to use the Creative Commons license
toolkit instead of the original opencontent.org licenses.

Below is a copy of my Slashdot posting on the matter.

-F




As a lecturer in the humanities and net activist who has been
evangelizing open content internationally in lectures, papers and as the
moderator of congress panels since 1999, I feel like being slapped into
my face. It is terrible if you educate people about open content and the
necessity of copylefting public information resources, pointing them
again and again to opencontent.org and their licenses, and now see that
reference dissolve. 

Especially, it is not funny to see the Open Publication License go away.
It had a considerable momentum among book publishers - being used, among
others, by O'Reilly and the Bruce Perens book series of Prentice Hall. I
put all my own papers under the OPL, encouraged other people to do so
as well, and now feel severly f*cked and betrayed by this move. The
instability and unreliability now associated with open content copylefts
could severely damage the whole movement. As someone who managed to convince 
a large German public library to release its online content under the
Open Publication License, I am pissed and awaiting to take the beating for 
opencontent.org's irresponsibility.

The Creative Commons licenses, in my view, are not an alternative
because they are too many and incompatible to each other, thus creating
confusion and preventing exchange between work copylefted under their
terms. What's still worse is that most Creative Commons licenses are not
free in the sense of the Free Software definition of the FSF, the Debian
Free Software Guidelines or the Open Source Definition.

I urge the initiator of opencontent.org to keep the website alive, 
if only as a central link repository to other sites, and provide a
smooth and sensible upgrade path from the Open Content License and the Open
Publication License to particular Creative Common Licenses, for example
by crafting a license which would simultaneously be "Open Publication
License v2.0" and "Creative Commons License foo". Given the amount of
work that already circulates under either the Open Content License or
the Open Publication License, anything else would be utterly
irresponsible.

Imagine the FSF suddenly abandoning/stalling the GPL in favor of some
yet-unwritten different license, leaving ten thousands of Free Software
developers in the legal lurch and betraying their trust. What is an
unlikely horror scenario for free software now has become the reality of
open content.

Bravo, opencontent.org, Microsoft, the RIAA, the MPA, SCO and all
other old copyright regimes now have another reason to cheer and point
at copyleft culture as immature, unreliable, not viable for serious
publishing, etc..  Please wake up and realize that you have taken up a
responsibility which you cannot throw away so easily!



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[Florian Cramer]

Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:47:18 +0200
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Subject: rain
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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:40:06 -0700
From: lq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PEACETALKSATURNALIA

PEACETALKSATURNALIA
(made to rest in the petalcalco)


"There never was a good war or a bad peace."
- Benjamin Franklin in a letter to Josiah Quincy, 11/9/1773


+Brethren and Sisters of the Free Spirit -absorption4zone
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{annoited and dismissed}

"The King of America," said the villager. "King of America, he'll come here,
see our village,
meet us, and see how we live!"

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{A PIERRE. DELL'AZZURRO SILENZIO, INQUIETUM}

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Technossos 3419 ADC (after the death of civilization)

A damaged android likeness of Immanuel Kant burbles a fading somniloquy from
upon a
vast garbage heap of android philosophers, gods, generals, starlets, and
'living statues'..

"co[defla]tke:shall we then/then n[ever pa]y ho}mage tune-shaft, to the
preciousness of the other,
to see then in those, republic, republic, rousseau, i leave your
piss-stained caftan,
strange outw#3ard appurtenances our ow[n curio]us con[tours, how the]n
w[oul]d we fall to
clinging idiocy of foetus-racks, sleep in numbe/rs unfathomable by
calculation, where?
each other's aid, to seek a listening, whereby our mistakes are gently
shown, by allowing
critique, critique, dead plato mo$on walk, Oresteia, your wild bottle
envelopes my Krakkenotes..
our own to be made as equally prominent, how then would our discussions
unfold, perhaps
by the model of experiments in distribution, freedom to change, lyri(cal
dancing of boundaries
and borders. is there no way for states to look into the potent blackness of
this new and Ole
Ole! OLe! oLAY! Skovsmose in Aporism: uncertainty about mathemat-ics gives
good head, toeplitz
shoe hobbes, c[ontra]cts, contract, st[ate-cha]nges, v[i/ole]nce of
cl//assro(o)ms, android to hammer
mythical space and to muse, and in that collective seeing, forego the names
of institutions
who ha00d once ho::nored that capacity and guard)ed its calling and history,
how then are nations
to become friends and to sport and dream codeflakecodeflake together and for
the others to
know joy and desire and to welcome this formation of a family
(jurgens,roberts,da

unstable digest vol 51

[Florian Cramer]

Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 21:32:57 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Scrolling is an important part of nowadays graphical user
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:12:52 -0700
From: lq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IPRIP
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Has anyone seen an obit for Ilya Prigogine?



To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: "][mez][" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: _cross.ova.ing ][4rm.blog.2.log][ 12/06-10-06-03_
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:24:53 +1000





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# [social engine] woo[t!]l.gathering
# [re]mixed N d.filing sy.stem[N root//shard N slice]
# rod-bird strait vs corna.stoned N da[ta]nge(nt)rous

# pictory purrfect N pump_muscles//bloated S[OAP]car_[t]issues
# e[mailing].lectro.lighting.my.pores.in2.sms.destruction


--dialin.objects.with.honeyed.lines



  Post
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_m[v]elt[vet N doctor]ing lines nuanced_code 08:31am 12/06/2003_
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.u.seek.the.trojan.truth.


::s[ituation]lit[oral]ting babies mouths with z-ends
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_yos.semi.T yearn_ings 08:39am 11/06/2003_


.w.a[ch]king in2 this_frost_life

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.drenched in black frost sweat + wood[en] c.hip.pian glory

[1 AI dies a horrible gravemare death + urs is sav][(i)oured][ed]

+ out[in]ward bound[less] in chill_scream nuances
+ sinkin_thru_LCD_lines + N_cry[stal]ption shoes
+ inter_here::drawl here::sic N b txt damned there::

[and all the while thing of that fro.Zen Place/deer ramblings + wild 
highway car_dancing over s.kitte[n]red ice.ments]

[wooden structwhores aping tv templated reality]
[strict mental plates revoked + reality surgings thru x.periential strainahs]
[do i shift + kik.my.way.in2.ur.(D)frag.mento.sphere?]
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event: _1_

.s.tiple grey meeting g[p]reenish vocal[ity]
.leather bound and ch.RO[a]Mic gagged

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.tanned N 

unstable digest vol 50

[Florian Cramer]

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your lepht, &... ...&! go hztrayght up 4D hZTREET, &... take pe phiyrhzt
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hztreet on pe lepht. ...&! take on pe two blosakeyk, on pe lepht-h&...
TAZyde. (Shehz out ophlsh!  heros m9nd!)

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hztreet o pe ryght, ...&! go hztrayght up 4D hZTREET on pe Eahzt, &...
take phiyrhzt keyorneros, on pe lepht-h&... TAZyde. (Get rel!)

mornyng, pleahze ...&! go 4 a uhze-mealk yn OUHOR! PARK (She dydnt gyve yt
a hzekeyond pought!)

She's hot!


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From: pascale gustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: lov/evil(1)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 23:29:48 +0200

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From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: my site (fwd)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:49:22 -0400 (EDT)



-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:04:52 +0900
From: Kenji Siratori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: my site

Dear Alan,

I launched my site!
http://www.kenjisiratori.com

Sincerely,
Kenji



From: a u t u m n - f r e q u e n c y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: c
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 20:35:13 -0600

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nettime unstable digest vol 50
Sun Jun  8 17:51:39 2003


Subject: LINK42
From: "Johan Meskens CS2 jmcs2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>(by way of Auriea.)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: [ radio radio]
From: a u t u m n - f r e q u e n c y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "whisettesLisette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: [ c]8
From: a u t u m n - f r e q u e n c y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: rev.e ver
From: pascale gustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re:  Re:  Re:  [shakeZkknut] I want the spirit of
From: +   lo_y.  + <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: [Re: [ c]8]_levelleDist
From: a u t u m n - f r e q u e n c y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: e.x.o.d.e  29 = z
From: pascale gustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: jeanpaul_martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

Subject: ~ Working at home sound good? We're hiring~ 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: disco socialisme [lo_y remix]
From: Wilfried Hou je Bek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: [shakeZkknut] I want the spirit of Syndicate to awaken ! - 
http://anart.no/~syndicate/KKnut/
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Subject: im/inpudding
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Subject: lov/evil(1)
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: my site (fwd)
From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: c
From: a u t u m n - f r e q u e n c y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: Re: Is nettime MEDIA-FASCIST??

[Florian Cramer]

Am Donnerstag, 05. Juni 2003 um 09:28:59 Uhr (-0700) schrieb John von Seggern:
 
> The Internet, yes. As for nettime it is looking increasingly 
> old-fashioned to me these days...as numerous posters have pointed out 
> recently, there are many more sophisticated interfaces for online 
> community interaction these days that could address some of the issues 
> the moderation process was originally supposed to solve. Nettime seems 
> to be overly dominated by the particular interests of its moderators and 
> for me it has lost a great deal of its value as a forum. When are we 
> going to move to something new? Is there any desire on the part of this 
> community to keep exploring new communication technologies and network 
> topologies? Or are we going to stay stuck in a mid-90s paradigm of a 
> moderated listserv?

Old-fashioned mailing list technology has important advantages over, for
example, Slashdot-style web-based community platforms:


- Distributed, individual archiving. 

There is not one single server/repository of past contributions, which
is also a single point of failure, but there are individual archives on
subscriber's PCs, many of them being highly personally filtered
selections of what has been posted to a list. (It would be an
interesting project to publish Nettime archives/selection of individual
subscribers.)


- Separation of (local) authoring and (remote) distribution interfaces

There is not one monolithic web-based application which tries to be your
text editor, E-Mail client and listserver at once, but everyone can work
locally with the software s/he prefers. For example, I'm typing this on
a terminal in vim using the mutt mailreader, others might use Eudora, a
web-based Mailer, and so on. The idea to turn web pages into your
software applications is very bad in regard to usability and user
freedom. 

I know of newer weblog software which allows users to post from a local
computer via XML rpc, but I doubt this technology is very accessible yet
for average people.

With local, distributed storage and individual choice of authoring
software, it is also much easier to convert textual information from one
medium into an other, i.e. from a text file to a mailing list
posting and vice versa, and use even individually written software (perl
scripts, shell filters etc.) to accomplish such tasks.


- Social/economical accessibility. 

As monolithic all-in-one applications, Web-based communities force you
to be online for reading and writing contributions, preferably with
broadband flatrate internet access. Mailing lists on the other hand
allow you to read and write contributions offline, and reduce online
time to a few seconds of sending off and receiving E-Mail, which can be
conveniently done even over slow modem connections.

Moreover, through mail server technology, readers don't need to access a
remote web server (which can be slow over intercontinental connections
or in countries with low-speed networking infrastructure), but get and
post contributions from their local provider's mail server.


Needless to point out why all these technical issues are - and always
have been - important political and cultural issues for Nettime as well.

-F

-- 
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~cantsin/homepage/
http://www.complit.fu-berlin.de/institut/lehrpersonal/cramer.html
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unstable digest vol 49

[Florian Cramer]

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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 13:50:30 +0200
To: s-e-v-e-n-c-k-h-r-.-.~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Johan Meskens CS2 jmcs2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fwd: tryal


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nettime unstable digest vol 49
Tue Jun  3 19:28:26 2003


Subject: Re: [screenburn] Re: monthly collab---   o  - --- rations?
From: "][mez][" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: [screenburn] monthly collaborations?
From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: monthly collaboration
From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
To: s-e-v-e-n-c-k-h-r-.-.~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: daedalus line--   - - -   -- -
From: "][mez][" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Subject: Re: [screenburn] daedalus line--   - - -   -- -
From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Subject: Re: [screenburn] daedalus jack[+jill.fill]eted-line--  - - -  
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Subject: Re: [screenburn] daedalus jack[+jill.fill]eted-line--- - -  
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Subject: Re: [screenburn] daedalus jack[+jill.fill]eted-line--  - - -  
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Subject: Are you having trouble
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Subject: formatting test
From: Johan Meskens CS2 jmcs2 <"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"@mail.chromaticspaceandworld.com>


Subject: Fwd: tryal
From: Johan Meskens CS2 jmcs2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




lurking editors

beatrice beaubien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7-11 nettime-bold thingist 
florian cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7-11 _arc.hive_ eu-gene o-o rhizome rohrpost webartery wryting 
alan sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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unstable digest vol 41

[Florian Cramer]

Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:59:22 -0500
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To: Florian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: of any interest?

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[Florian Cramer]

t;
>
>
> >probably the most useful thing we can do is be kind to each other, and to
> especially be kind to muslims here in the US (they've had a tough time
> since 911)understanding and kindness are ALWAYS more effective than
> bombsTHAT'S a helluva lot more effective than a NO WAR page
> >
>
>
> + b AWARE of [y]our own baggage
> + remove_the_judgement_need[les]

Poor men may sell their blood to AVENTIS BIO-SERVICES.

> ..+ the accumulation of that ideal silt in bobs + filtered patches.
>
>
> *head shake.ages*
> mez

> From: Patrick Herron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: a message for you
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This "GEORGE WALKER BUSH" text circulated widely 2 months ago,
and was posted by nettime on 26 Jan.  It was very affective.
Patrick Herron apparently has his very own mailing list
for his disaffected and mis-recycled posts; I would like to see
the better (critical) of those.  Meanwhile he is killfiled.

> From: "Johan Meskens CS2 jmcs2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "s-.-.~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:30:00 +0100
> Subject: http://www.chromaticspaceandworld.com/cgi-bin/THE_TRUTH.CGI
>
> http://www.chromaticspaceandworld.com/cgi-bin/THE_TRUTH.CGI
>
> THE TRUTH _ Mar-28-06:24:45-2003

Very good.

mail/sent-mail-jan-2003:   Establishment of Truth depends on destruction of Falshood 
continually

> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:04:11 GMT
> From: "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: 7-11,hi there

I support this post.

-- 
With only one line it's a trivial thing to check for matching quotation marks.





nettime unstable digest vol 40
Sat Mar 29 16:55:24 2003


Subject: Al Jazeera - objective and balanced global news coverage and
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Petersen)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Get your "NO WAR"
From: "a][nti][nglo.cubic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: http://www.chromaticspaceandworld.com/cgi-bin/THE_TRUTH.CGI
From: "Johan Meskens CS2 jmcs2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "s-.-.~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: 7-11,hi there
From: "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re:  unstable digest vol 40 snapshot
From: Karl Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "_arc.hive_" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



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[Florian Cramer]

   DOH-HA-CHI-YALI-TCHISTUTTER
JAPAN   BEH-NA-ALI-TSOSIE   SLANT EYE
PHILIPPINE  KE-YAH-DA-NA-LHEFLOATING ISLAND
RUSSIA  SILA-GOL-CHI-IH RED ARMY
SOUTH AMERICA   SHA-DE-AH-NE-HI-MAH SOUTH OUR MOTHER
SPAIN   DEBA-DE-NIH SHEEP PAIN












From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ROOT BERM
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 02:38:11 -0500 (EST)




ROOT BERM


sand  console  desert-slaughter Fri Mar 21 15:17 - 15:42  (00:25)
sand  ttyp1 Fri Mar 21 00:16 - shutdown  (01:02)
sand  ttyp1 Fri Mar 21 00:16 - 00:16  (00:00)
sand  ttyp1 Fri Mar 21 00:16 - 00:16  (00:00)
sand  ttyp1 Fri Mar 21 00:16 - 00:16  (00:00)
sand  console  desert-slaughter Fri Mar 21 00:15 - 00:16  (00:01)
sand  console  desert-slaughter Thu Mar 20 21:22 - 21:40  (00:17)
sand  ttyp1 Fri Jan 24 00:58 - crash  (00:26)
sand  console  localhostFri Jan 24 00:57 - crash  (00:26)
sand  ttyp1 Thu Jan 23 23:50 - shutdown  (00:00)
sand  console  localhostThu Jan 23 23:49 - shutdown  (00:01)
sand  ttyp1 Wed Jan 22 17:22 - shutdown  (00:00)
sand  ttyp1 Wed Jan 22 17:07 - 17:22  (00:14)
sand  console  localhostWed Jan 22 17:06 - shutdown  (00:15)
sand  console  localhostWed Jan 22 16:58 - 16:58  (00:00)
sand  console  localhostWed Jan 22 16:33 - 16:34  (00:01)
sand  ttyp1 Sat Aug 24 04:02 - crash  (08:31)
sand  ttyp1 Sat Aug 24 03:59 - 04:02  (00:02)
sand  console  localhostSat Aug 24 03:59 - 04:02  (00:03)
sand  ttyp1 Sat Aug 24 03:54 - 03:59  (00:04)
sand  ttyp1 Sat Aug 24 03:48 - 03:54  (00:06)
sand  console  localhostSat Aug 24 03:48 - 03:57  (00:09)
sand  ttyp1 Sat Aug 24 03:12 - crash  (00:13)
sand  console  localhostSat Aug 24 03:12 - crash  (00:14)
sand  ttyp1 Fri Aug 23 23:03 - crash  (01:08)
sand  console  localhostFri Aug 23 22:56 - 23:28  (00:31)
sand  console  localhostThu Aug 22 23:37 - 23:43  (00:05)

wtmp begins Thu Aug 22 23:37


===


Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:36:45 +
Subject: Notes Towards the Complete Works of Shakespeare
From: geoffcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Florian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Florian 
would you be interested in this for the 'Unstable Digest'
[by way of Geoff Cox]
-- 

From: Elmo, Gum, Heather, Holly, Mistletoe & Rowan
Subject: Notes Towards the Complete Works of Shakespeare


[1 - English version]

NOTES TOWARDS THE COMPLETE WORKS OF SHAKESPEARE

BY 
ELMO, GUM, HEATHER, HOLLY, MISTLETOE & ROWAN
SULAWESI CRESTED MACAQUES (MACACA NIGRA)
FROM PAIGNTON ZOO ENVIRONMENTAL PARK (UK)

FIRST PUBLISHED FOR [VIVARIA.NET] IN 2002
<http://www.vivaria.net>

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[Florian Cramer]

AB24.247.150.230.kMOAB9PMMOAB2MOABpMOAB
jjbakerMOABpool-68-161-117-MOAB9PMMOAB0MOABec.arts.sf.fandom
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amdMOABMOAB04.176.146.51MOAB:43PMMOAB0MOABh
anatolyMOABhqinbh5-x0.ms.coMOAB9AMMOAB1 -
dacMOABMOABgm-66-24-162-15MOAB1AMMOAB0MOABh
dvbMOABMOABMOABMOABMOABMOABr03MOABysMOABh
jlanierMOAB90.new-york-09rhMOAB2PMMOAB0MOAB -i
jettMOABr0MOAB33.84.102MOABed01PMMOAB1MOAB-vMOABvMOABhost.sva.eduMOABe
jtinsleyMOAB100-60.bas1.dbnMOAB4PMMOAB2MOABh
daggerMOABMOAB-151-202-8-1MOAB1PMMOAB1MOAB/local/bin/pineMOABetc/conf/pi
clayMOABr7MOAB0.136.134MOAB3Mar03MOAB1MOAB93
mshawMOAB8MOAB.ti.comMOABMOAB7AMMOAB2MOABh
kgerrardMOABrnuser2.city.wiMOAB5PMMOAB0MOABh
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mappelMOABMOAB237-223-80.cMOAB3PMMOAB0MOAB -i
mcMOABMOABmctest.dialup.acMOAB7PMMOAB7MOABh
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walterMOABMOAB0.136.93MOABWed04PMMOAB1MOAB
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pcmMOABMOABol-43525c7f.dynMOAB4PMMOAB0MOABen
jaMOABMOABbyzantium.nyc.acMOAB0AMMOAB5MOABh
mselbyMOABMOAB8.63.230MOABWed03PMMOAB1MOABcsMOABmMOAB
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plumbMOAB0MOAB81-056-079.sMOAB0PMMOAB1 -
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nettime unstable digest vol 38
Mon Mar 17 13:38:16 2003


Subject: Re:  [Buyo]_Logical Pop_
From: "+   lo_y.  +" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Al-Ghazali, commentary on Internet Text
From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Al-Ghazali, commentary on Internet Text
From: Lanny Quarles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: = sixteen
From: "Johan Meskens CS2 jmcs2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "s-.-.~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: no:waqr::
From: ui uuii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [ f r a m e s ]//NO_WAR!!//_-BlueScreen.2003
From: "BlueScreen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re:  |   || " || 9-3-2003-22:36 |_| 423226 4" || 
blue||orange||yellow||green||red|||black 'purple ~" || a |
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Subject: HY  st -oryeria
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Subject: machines-world
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Subject: MOAB TELECOMMUNICATIONS DISRUPTION
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[Florian Cramer]

t;.inc =

-post-
iNNe.inc =

aLLwayst;matchCHARset.inc_IF_SUB_txtTrct_LN_PM_ast_IF_wirCrost.inc
IF.inc =

particaltizeSNDs.inc
x. and.inc alternative.inc universes.inc wyre.inc
quote_said:sonicQuanta
IOT
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formette.inc =

CC.snd
such.ast:
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th.inc
dat:speak
polyticks
ast-IF.inc
LOADED_cart
muliPart_identifier:so.sync_dat_RATE.inc_setPair02multiplex_ova_timeSIGs.=
ync(s)_suchAST-if.inc
particles.inc+.inc+
++
"corpuscles of sound". =

=2E.
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"R".inc =

LOADED
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(a)PATH.inc =

iNNe_fact.inc
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brought.inc =

iNNe02.inc
"PLAY" =

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"play.inc"
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mod.speaking.inc
oft.inc =

iNNe
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wrd.inc
"o"
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=2E
sym
aLL
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rmxLOGiCCalt_(a)_nmb.inc
eRR_oRRe:
"bad command"
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knowFaster_kneLLs.inc
+/-.inc =

knewlsFaster.inc
-cut-
sync.wit:
"The amount of loss introduced by the propagation environment between a
transmitter and receiver."
whilst: =

msg.src:
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nettime unstable digest vol 37
Sun Mar  9 00:55:33 2003


Subject: can .walk will compute
From: Wilfried Hou Bek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Mut  a  loof
From: John M. Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: [Buyo]_Logical Pop_
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Subject: SOLITARY VICE
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Subject: Re:  |   || " || 6-3-2003-14:58 |_| 211141 5" || |
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: diminished composition
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Subject: ANNOUNCING: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re:PLY [[_arct.hive_aLL] piece.inc musicField]
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[Florian Cramer]

  From: pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Definitions of SPAM
From: mez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re:  The Digital Writer
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Subject: sketch
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Subject: resent from cream 12 newsletter
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