Utopian Plagiarism / Society of the Spectacle
The internet is not a collection of networks, but a social relation among people, mediated by networks. ... The basically tautological character of the internet flows from the simple fact that its means are simultaneously its ends. ... The internet subjugates living men to itself to the extent that the economy has totally subjugated them. ... The internet is the existing order’s uninterrupted discourse about itself, its laudatory monologue. ... The internet reunites the separate, but reunites it as separate. ... The internet is capital to such a degree of accumulation that it becomes a network. ... The unreal unity proclaimed by the internet masks the class division on which the real unity of the capitalist made of production rests. ... The internet is ideology par excellence, because it exposes and manifests in its fullness the essence of all ideological systems: the impoverishment, servitude and negation of real life. ... ad infinitum... # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: Algorithmic / Biometric Governmentality
Hmm, their team is a prime example of white, male, and non-diverse "singularity". Are blockchain ICOs really spreading the control and wealth to the many? It's difficult to know, but considering the hurdles that have to be crossed to be able to gain access to the blockchain (to have internet access, a credit card or bank account, the knowledge and desire, and the money to invest) the vast majority of wealth generated went most likely into the pockets of the global top 2%. I've my doubt that much of this will start trickling down. If the COIN has not the tackling of problems to the greater good in it genes, pardon me contracts, it will most likely not happen. Of course the platforms in creation could be very helpful (as Facebook is for many NGOs) but I don't have hope that the free coin markets will steer things into better places than the free financial markets did. \\vincent On 02/11/2017 13:53, charlie derr wrote: On 11/02/2017 05:29 AM, Vincent Van Uffelen wrote: Nevertheless, it [AI] remains a very powerful tool, and it is in the hands of a very few (and their software engineer/programmer management layer). While it's still in the embryonic stages, I just wanted to mention a rather ambitious effort to change this reality using blockchain technology and implementing via open source code: https://singularitynet.io https://medium.com/ben-goertzel-on-singularitynet Their whitepaper is due out any day now. best, ~c # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: Algorithmic / Biometric Governmentality
While this has turned into an interesting discussion on the (non?)future of AI, it's important to remind ourselves that what Zeynep is describing (and control societies in general) don't rely on the existence of advanced AI to work. The power of control societies emerges from the historical conjuncture of biopower (the institutional collection/management of data concerning populations) and computation (the automation of data/information processing that can result in then dynamic modulation of control / the exercise of power). On Nov 2, 2017 8:54 AM, "charlie derr" wrote: > On 11/02/2017 05:29 AM, Vincent Van Uffelen wrote: > > Nevertheless, it [AI] remains a very powerful tool, and it is in the > > hands of a very few (and their software engineer/programmer management > > layer). > > While it's still in the embryonic stages, I just wanted to mention a > rather ambitious effort to change this reality using blockchain > technology and implementing via open source code: > > https://singularitynet.io > > https://medium.com/ben-goertzel-on-singularitynet > > Their whitepaper is due out any day now. > > best, > ~c > > > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission > #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: Algorithmic / Biometric Governmentality
On 11/02/2017 05:29 AM, Vincent Van Uffelen wrote: > Nevertheless, it [AI] remains a very powerful tool, and it is in the > hands of a very few (and their software engineer/programmer management > layer). While it's still in the embryonic stages, I just wanted to mention a rather ambitious effort to change this reality using blockchain technology and implementing via open source code: https://singularitynet.io https://medium.com/ben-goertzel-on-singularitynet Their whitepaper is due out any day now. best, ~c signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: Algorithmic / Biometric Governmentality
I also wonder if just one skillfully performed twitch with the left leg could trip a gait detection algorithm? There are many holes to poke into. Having access to the interpreting system, as those researchers did, makes it obviously much easier to find the right "markers" to tweak. But considering that economies of scale will most likely give to rise to a few default classification networks, accessible for $£€ over an API, some of there inner workings might be discovered over time. Isn't the prying open of a black box peoples favorite pastime? Regarding the rise of the "AI". Totally agree, it "became" something like climate change. An inevitable wicked problem, of which the involved's right hand demands careful consideration of the consequences while the rest of the body is pushing for its implementation at full speed. I very much like to stress that at the moment it is just machine intelligence, not sentient, or as Zuckerberg said: it's just math. Nevertheless, it remains a very powerful tool, and it is in the hands of a very few (and their software engineer/programmer management layer). On 01/11/2017 21:33, Morlock Elloi wrote: And this just in: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1707.07397 We introduce the first method for constructing real-world 3D objects that consis- tently fool a neural network across a wide distribution of angles and viewpoints. We present a general-purpose algorithm for generating adversarial examples that are robust across any chosen distribution of transformations. Video of a rather impressive demo (turtle gets classified as a rifle) at: https://www.labsix.org/media/2017/10/31/video.mp4 https://www.labsix.org/physical-objects-that-fool-neural-nets/ The point of all these attacks appears to be that "AI" is just plain old primitive classifiers, rebranded by the marketing, all extremely brittle, working under naive assumptions (but good enough for demos and PR.) "AI" sounds more scary and induces defeatism, resignation, and deference to technology, which is its sole purpose. .. # distributed via : no commercial use without permission # is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: -- DE: +49 (0)160 9549 5269 UK: +44 (0)75 0655 0520 http://vincentvanuffelen.com http://transmit-interfere.com http://deepmediaresearch.org # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
