nettime Crisis 2.0 - the political turn (some comments) P.S.

2015-01-18 Thread allan siegel
Hello Brian,

Just a few comments:

By postmodern delirium I was referring to that moment when people seemed
to abandon history and succumbed to ???capitalism's ability to deliver
the goods??? and Reagan and Thatcher were the shining stars starring
down the Soviet bear and celebrating neoliberalism???s ascendent status
- a wave of privatisation - and the dismemberment of the welfare state
(with the various means appropriate to either the UK or the US). To
paraphrase Lyotard: the grand narratives of modernism and the
Enlightenment were losing traction. The welfare state became a corporate
hobby horse with defense and finance leading the pack. Of course the
tech companies were in the mix also but that???s another story.

So, the crisis you so aptly brought up is actually a series of crises;
repetitive global traumas relating to war, climate change, finance
etc??? And, contrary to D. Garcia???s trashing of Mr. Zizek, also a
crisis in relation to the Liberal (as in the Enlightenment sense) values
so highly cherished by Western democracies (whose democratic values are
constantly Blowing in the Wind). By an easy reckoning,  America???s
Liberal values are in a bit of disarray with the police running amok and
the country in constant war and anything resembling social democratic
values under attack by institutions as vile as any of Europe???s
neo-fascist parties. Meanwhile, the financial brains of The City and
Wall Street are having a great time pilfering and thieving. And, Cameron
is begging Obama for the green light on the totalisation of the
surveillance state. Whoppee for Liberalism and plurality??? Plurality
only exists for the 1% (when you measure the results) the rest feed on
the crumbs that ???ruling classes??? call freedom of speech. I???m not
knocking democracy at all but we need to look at things a lot more
realistically instead of paying homage to illusions.

By that I mean, as you highlighted, places like Spain or Greece, where
people are dealing with issues relating to political power and the
insidiousness of the neoliberal state.

best, always
allan

(BTW Bordoni and Bauman???s State of Crisis is worth alike)

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Re: nettime Crisis 2.0 - the political turn (some comments)

2015-01-14 Thread Miguel Afonso Caetano
2015-01-14 8:07 GMT+00:00 Brian Holmes bhcontinentaldr...@gmail.com:

Hello, Brian.

 On an opposite end of the spectrum, I encourage you to read the
 interview with Luz, the cartoonist of Charlie Hebdo, which Patrice
 Riemens sent to this list. Some of the things this man says are just
 astonishing to me. He claims that the group of caricaturists at
 Charlie did not want to deal with grand symbolic figures but with
 very specific things, images that make sense and are funny in
 France. But on what planet does this guy live? How can he see
 caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad as anything else but a symbol, a
 charged cliche, a hot-button item, a waving red cloak in a vast
 international bull ring? I am sorry to criticize someone whose loss
 has been so great, but it's pure narcissism, this idea of a
 cherished France that could be held in your hand and protected from
 the world into which it nonetheless sends its armies and its oil
 majors. The sacrosanct caricature of Charlie, brandished in the air
 as a fetish of liberty, is exactly the reification of the self that
 O'Connor describes. I don't know what will come of these events, and
 I don't want to prejudge what French society will make of them, but
 I can see the potential for the very facile patriotic and chauvinist
 defence of a supposedly secular freedom of expression which would
 justify the complete absence of any reflection on the griefs that
 push people to the insanity of terrorism. I have seen this worst
 case happen in the US, with the results that we have before our
 eyes. What we need is not just reflection but action to change the
 way that the world economy functions. Otherwise its necropolitical
 character will inevitably poison whatever fine lands we imagine
 ourselves to live in.

Personally, I think this kind of reasoning can lead to very dangerous
dead-ends. Do you just need to speak of colonialism to take away
all individual responsabilities of human beings in their actions
towards others? In the politically correct/postmodern left, it just
seems so. Moreover. it seems that this feeling of collective guilt
automatically legitimizes any curtailment of freedom of speech... You
can't say or express what you think because of your government's
actions doesn't seem like my kind of politics... This seems to be the
same think that Zizek tried to say in an article for New Statesman:Â

Such thinking has nothing whatsoever to do with the cheap
relativisation of the crime (the mantra of who are we in the West,
perpetrators of terrible massacres in the Third World, to condemn such
acts). It has even less to do with the pathological fear of many
Western liberal Leftists to be guilty of Islamophobia. For these false
Leftists, any critique of Islam is denounced as an expression of
Western Islamophobia; Salman Rushdie was denounced for unnecessarily
provoking Muslims and thus (partially, at least) responsible for the
fatwa condemning him to death, etc. The result of such stance is what
one can expect in such cases: the more the Western liberal Leftists
probe into their guilt, the more they are accused by Muslim
fundamentalists of being hypocrites who try to conceal their hatred of
Islam. This constellation perfectly reproduces the paradox of the
superego: the more you obey what the Other demands of you, the guiltier
you are. It is as if the more you tolerate Islam, the stronger its
pressure on you will be . . .

http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2015/01/slavoj-i-ek-charlie-hebdo-massacre-are-worst-really-full-passionate-intensity

Best regards from Portugal
--
Miguel Caetano
http://twitter.com/remixtures
http://iscte-iul.academia.edu/MiguelCaetano/


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Re: nettime Crisis 2.0 - the political turn (some comments)

2015-01-14 Thread Brian Holmes

On 01/13/2015 03:58 PM, allan siegel wrote:


Yes, there is a crisis, that shouldn�t be a big surprise but
what precisely is the crisis?A number of contemporary philosophers
have been wading into this question for some time now; is it the
crisis that marks a break with modernity? Quite possibly. Is it
simply the economic crisis of 2008? No. After floating through years
of fuelled by the illusions of the post-modern delirium we�'re finding
that it is not easy to get very far if you�'re running on empty and
the consequence finding ourselves stuck in something akin to an
ideological vacuum.


Hello Allan. In few words you say so much. The post-modern delirium 
you refer to is, by my reckoning, the product of the last half century. 
It condenses the various ways that capitalist societies found to bring 
back into their fold all those who revolted against them starting some 
five decades ago. Post-modern delirium is the attempted reification of 
a failed revolt. When the lingering dreams and feverish regrets are 
burnt away, what remains is the measured, objectified, manipulated, 
controllable residue of past generations'  struggles for emancipation 
and justice.


For anyone who might care about these things, there is a very 
penetrating author named James O'Connor who wrote books such as The 
Fiscal Crisis of the State, followed by Accumulation Crisis and then by 
The Meaning of Crisis. Three books that address your question. Generally 
people only read the first one, published in 1973, because they want to 
know why the Fordist boom fell apart. The idea that slowly emerges from 
his later work, however, is that in capitalist societies, personality 
crisis can be understood as the momentary breakdown of a social process 
that has led individuals to treat their own selves as objects: 
glittering, pricey, high-status things whose possession and ownership 
gives us power over others. A crisis of value (that is, not only a 
plunge in the cash value of asssets, but also a failure of the 
institutional circuit that sustains cash value) can therefore be a vital 
threat to psychic health and equilibrium. At the moment of the vaccuum 
- ie the empty bank account, the lost job or the failed business - your 
thing, your self, suddenly begins to appear worthless. By the same 
token, though, crisis can also be a chance to exit the strictly 
privatized coccoon of the reified self, and begin understanding and 
acting upon human interdependence. If one cannot simply buy and flaunt 
the simulacra of fulfillment, then some attention to the reciprocities 
whereby people sustain each other becomes not only a necessity, but even 
a new reason for living. Check out how O'Connor describes the conjoined 
process of social and psychic crisis, almost thirty years ago in The 
Meaning of Crisis:


We know that capital is racing madly through the present; it has raced 
headlong into a crisis. It attempts to reduce its turnover time 
compulsively and obsessively. Modernization of production, 
internationalization of production and a bloated debt structure are 
three sides of a single process. Whole cities and communities are thrown 
away in the race to defend and expand profits. Growth coalitions 
multiply like cancer cells, killing the normal cells of family, 
religion, tradition. The frenzy of accumulation; the fear that it will 
come to an end in a huge crash or an environmental or military 
catastrophe; the unbelievable excesses of late capitalism worldwide - 
these bear witness to the obsessive-compulsive qualitity of the inner 
soul of capital. If we could become its inner eye, if we could transport 
ourselves into its inner soul, if we could hear the relentless beat of 
accumulation, we could experience as well as know the madness of this 
obsessiveness – this world where capital and money are a religious and 
aesthetic experience, and where power is a moral category. When we 
examine ourselves, we find capital within our own souls. We too rush 
through the present; we race for some victory – or toward some unknown 
destination; we are governed by unlimited desire; we stumble and fall 
from identity into the abyss. We create our own personal crisis, as 
capital creates its own crisis.


For me, that's an amazing paragraph: it's an economist putting the 
intimate self into the macro-economic picture. Whenever this kind of 
move is made, ethics and then politics surges to the fore. Amidst the 
general wreck and sadness of what happens in the world, the cultural 
question is not just how one suffers but rather how one struggles to 
create one's own crisis - and then hopefully to resolve it, in a social 
space beyond the fiction of a stable and valuable interiority which one 
could polish and improve and flaunt before the desiring gaze of others.




In fact what is being called the ‘crisis�' is probably the result of
the conflation of a host of historical factors: political, economic,
etc… So, to view the crisis in the absence of 

Re: nettime Crisis 2.0 - the political turn (some comments)

2015-01-13 Thread Christian Gagneraud

On 14/01/15 10:58, allan siegel wrote:


Hello,

[...]
 Were the banks and their bosses ever held accountable?

Some were, at least in Iceland: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%9311_Icelandic_financial_crisis#Criminal_investigations


Chris

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nettime Crisis 2.0 - the political turn (some comments)

2015-01-13 Thread allan siegel
Hello,
Yes, there is a crisis, that shouldn’t be a big surprise but what precisely is 
the crisis? A number of contemporary philosophers have been wading into this 
question for some time now; is it the crisis that marks a break with modernity? 
Quite possibly. Is it simply the economic crisis of 2008? No. After floating 
through years of fuelled by the illusions of the post-modern delirium we’re 
finding that it is not easy to get very far if you’re running on empty and the 
consequence finding ourselves stuck in something akin to an ideological vacuum. 

In fact what is being called the ‘crisis’ is probably the result of the 
conflation of a host of historical factors: political, economic, etc… So, to 
view the crisis in the absence of any substantial historical context is simply 
misleading. It is as if we can view the recent events in Paris detached from 
the legacy of French colonialism and the post-colonial turbulence that has 
continued to batter Algeria. We live in a global world still very much being 
buffeted by the decades of colonial and imperial hubris that has plundered the 
third world in any number of political guises. The horrendous blow-back from 
this is used to buttress the surveillance states now common in the West: high 
tech snooping tools, random police operations which provide citizens with a 
fragile, fleeting sense of security that is regularly shattered by unexpected 
violence and killings. Countless innocents are slaughtered without warning; 
police forces run amok… 

It is yet to be seen whether the political movements in Spain or Greece can 
move their societies in a new direction beyond the neoliberal economic pincers 
- I certainly hope they can - but the fact that these movements exist is a 
testament to some tangible threads of historical continuity and a capacity to 
create new forms of political organisation. The fact is that in the belly of 
the beast the banks escaped like bandits with a free ticket to manage the next 
financial crisis while effortlessly plundering the U.S. treasury and there were 
no political entity/s or coalition of forces that could deter the neoliberal 
juggernaut. Were the banks and their bosses ever held accountable? A sad 
reflection on the manner in which the neoliberal mind-set has distorted not 
only the political consciousness of the citizenry but trashed the most basic 
forms of common sense.

I’m not being cynical, really, just realistic; we cannot demand the impossible 
but we can manage to to insure that the next generation has the tools and the 
wisdom, to go beyond the ineptness, the corruption, and the greed the has 
polluted so many hard won democratic institutions and whittled away the 
parameters of a just society. Unless all the solid, meaningful efforts (in any 
number of disciplines, economic programmes or alternative and innovative 
practices) can coalesce into a political force able to out-manouver the status 
quo of the current political landscape we’re in for more stormy weather.

allan


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