Re: problem with networkmanager dbus api

2008-10-28 Thread Sebastian Dransfeld

Sebastian Dransfeld wrote:

Sebastian Dransfeld wrote:

Hi,

I try to use the org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.GetAll() method call 
with networkmanager like this (change device to one you got):


dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call \
--dest=org.freedesktop.NetworkManager \
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_00_01_6c_ea_69_1b \
org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.GetAll \
string:org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device

This will return nothing, as libdbus-glib maps dbus properties to 
gobject properties. In networkmanager these do not match:


gobjectdbus
udiUdi
interfaceInterface
driverDriver
capabilitiesCapabilities
ip4-addressIp4Address
etc.

The gobject properties do however have a nick which matches the dbus 
property name.


Where should this problem be solved? networkmamager or dbus-glib?

If someone can suggest a solution, I can try to create a patch.


And of course:
OS:
- Ubuntu 8.10
Packages:
- libdbus-glib-1-2  0.76-1
- network-manager   0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu1


And fixed it. Missing _dbus_gutils_wincaps_to_uscore() in dbus-glib's 
getall implementation. Where should I send this patch?


Best regards
Sebastian Dransfeld
--- dbus/dbus-gobject.c.orig	2008-10-28 22:42:36.0 +0100
+++ dbus/dbus-gobject.c	2008-10-28 22:42:39.0 +0100
@@ -796,6 +796,7 @@
 {
   const char *prop_ifname;
   const char *prop_name;
+  char *gobject_prop_name;
   GParamSpec *pspec;
   GType value_gtype;
   GValue value = {0, };
@@ -815,7 +816,9 @@
 p++;
   p++;
 
-  pspec = g_object_class_find_property (G_OBJECT_GET_CLASS (object), prop_name);
+  gobject_prop_name = _dbus_gutils_wincaps_to_uscore (prop_name);
+  pspec = g_object_class_find_property (G_OBJECT_GET_CLASS (object), gobject_prop_name);
+  g_free (gobject_prop_name);
   if (pspec == NULL)
 {
   g_warning ("introspection data references non-existing property %s", prop_name);
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Re: problem with networkmanager dbus api

2008-10-28 Thread Sebastian Dransfeld

Sebastian Dransfeld wrote:

Hi,

I try to use the org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.GetAll() method call 
with networkmanager like this (change device to one you got):


dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call \
--dest=org.freedesktop.NetworkManager \
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_00_01_6c_ea_69_1b \
org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.GetAll \
string:org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device

This will return nothing, as libdbus-glib maps dbus properties to 
gobject properties. In networkmanager these do not match:


gobjectdbus
udiUdi
interfaceInterface
driverDriver
capabilitiesCapabilities
ip4-addressIp4Address
etc.

The gobject properties do however have a nick which matches the dbus 
property name.


Where should this problem be solved? networkmamager or dbus-glib?

If someone can suggest a solution, I can try to create a patch.


And of course:
OS:
- Ubuntu 8.10
Packages:
- libdbus-glib-1-2  0.76-1
- network-manager   0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu1

Best regards
Sebastian Dransfeld
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problem with networkmanager dbus api

2008-10-28 Thread Sebastian Dransfeld

Hi,

I try to use the org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.GetAll() method call 
with networkmanager like this (change device to one you got):


dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call \
--dest=org.freedesktop.NetworkManager \
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_00_01_6c_ea_69_1b \
org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.GetAll \
string:org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device

This will return nothing, as libdbus-glib maps dbus properties to 
gobject properties. In networkmanager these do not match:


gobject dbus
udi Udi
interface   Interface
driver  Driver
capabilitiesCapabilities
ip4-address Ip4Address
etc.

The gobject properties do however have a nick which matches the dbus 
property name.


Where should this problem be solved? networkmamager or dbus-glib?

If someone can suggest a solution, I can try to create a patch.

Best regards
Sebastian Dransfeld

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RE: [REQ] Adding support for simultaneous wireless networks

2008-10-28 Thread Brent Newland

I'm glad someone from Canonical responded, as Ubuntu is my distro of choice.

The reason I don't have access to the access point/router is because the 
network is locked down to the point of not being able to connect to other 
devices on the network. I know this is not a standard use case, but you could 
extend it by imagining someone at Starbucks on the Starbucks wifi wanting to 
print to their portable printer which only supports wifi. In this case, they 
would also have to disconnect from the wifi access point and reconnect to the 
printer. Or imagine a user wanting to connect to two wireless networks at the 
same time to transfer files.

While these two ARE special cases, the other issue should be a fairly common 
one - having internet through one connection (whether it's wired, wireless, an 
aircard, bluetooth tethering, dial-up, etc.) and wanting to connect to a wifi 
enabled printer. In any of these cases, it becomes nigh impossible th achieve 
the desired result. And so far I haven't found anything in network-manager that 
will facilitate this.

And as stated by Dan, it also extends to other special use cases (sharing a 
network connection with another device, wanting to access a private network at 
the same time as your internet connection, etc.) Ideally there would be a way 
to specify a network connection as an internet connection (and enable 
load-balancing for multiple connections, I suppose) and designating a network 
connection as a private connection (automatic searching for devices occurs 
automatically on all private networks, typing in an IANA restricted IP address 
will check both networks for availability of that address/port and prompt if 
it's found on more than one network).



> Subject: Re: [REQ] Adding support for simultaneous wireless networks
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; networkmanager-list@gnome.org
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:58:32 +0100
> 
> ah ok then. however, i think it should be a bit more clear to the user
> what to do. something like a 3 step wizard like bluez-gnome has now for
> setting up new bluetooth devices would be nice.
> 
> for example something like this:
> 
> 1. select the device connected to the internet
> 2. select the device for others to connect to, to use the shared
> connection
> 3. (optional for wifi) select encryption
> 
> and then nm sets up the shared connection on the chosen device.
> just an idea, open for improvements and comments ;)
> 
> greets,
> Björn
> 
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 11:47 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 16:37 +0100, Bjoern Martensen wrote:
>>> a friend of mine has a desktop pc with 2 ethernet devices onboard and
>>> uses one to connect to his dsl modem and one to share this pppoe
>>> connection over to his xbox. being able to share a connection not only
>>> wired <-> wifi but also wired <-> wired would be nice in such
>>> situations and it can't be done with the current state.
>> 
>> NM 0.7 allows connection sharing between arbitrary devices.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Jerone Young
>>>  wrote:
 This is not a standard use case. The fact is most consumers would have
 the wireless printer connected to their wifi network. I myself have a
 wireless printer and it connects to my wifi network, where I just access
 it like a standard network printer.

 I'm a little confused on exactly why you are connecting to your printer
 via ad-hoc mode, unless you do not have a wifi access point. To which
 once you did get one, you need to connect the printer to the access
 point.

 The only common case for this connecting to a printer wirelessly
 directly is via bluetooth, but this is handled by bluez and not
 network-manager. Also devices that do support it, handle this easily.

 Supporting something like this actually confuses users. How do you know
 which connection to get to the internet from ? .. it makes little
 since ...

 On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 00:53 -0600, Brent Newland wrote:
> I work at a retail store selling computers, and I can tell you that
> all the printer manufacturer's seem to be going wireless. Out of the
> latest selection of HP and Canon printers we carry, nearly all of the
> consumer level machines have built in wireless.
>
> Alot of people expect to be able to connect to the internet (whether
> it's through a wireless network, a cell phone card, a cable) and also
> be able to connect to their printer at the same time to print
> wirelessly, but that's not currently an easy thing to configure.
>
> What's even worse is if you want to connect to a wireless network while 
> being connected to a wireless printer in ad-hoc mode. Currently, to do 
> this you would have to use airtun-ng (this is the only program I've found 
> which does this):
> http://www.

Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Björn Martensen
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:55 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 18:47 +0100, Björn Martensen wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:22 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:50 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:07 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the 
> > > > > > > > > > same overall
> > > > > > > > > > size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock 
> > > > > > > > > > itself so
> > > > > > > > > > it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress 
> > > > > > > > > > twirlie can
> > > > > > > > > > probably stay where it is.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Existing connection with VPN active:
> > > > > > > > > > http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back 
> > > > > > > > > to you as
> > > > > > > > > soon as I can see a good solution.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock 
> > > > > > > > down and to
> > > > > > > > the right in the existing images would be just fine.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Probably, but I'd rather do some sketches of some other ideas, I 
> > > > > > > mean
> > > > > > > it's only one image which is used as an overlay, so that one 
> > > > > > > could be
> > > > > > > fixed easily, but I'm thinking now in terms of the progress meter 
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > vpn.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Maybe if we are moving the padlock down, then I could use icons 
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > are similar to the standard connecting animation but instead of a 
> > > > > > > dot a
> > > > > > > keyhole or something instead.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm mulling it, there's some space for flexibility. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hopefully i can knock up some updated icons today, and while i'm 
> > > > > > > at it
> > > > > > > classify them into sizes for 16,22 and 24
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Actually as the padlock is composited we could probably benefit from
> > > > > > compositing the icons for gsm/gprs, edge, umts, hsdpa and anything 
> > > > > > else
> > > > > > that comes along, maybe the recently submitted patch should be 
> > > > > > updated
> > > > > > to work in these terms?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, that's what I replied to it with.  The code has "layers", and 
> > > > > there
> > > > > are currently two layers: device and VPN.  We can certainly add a 
> > > > > mobile
> > > > > broadband layer in which the mobile broadband badge goes.  Just need 
> > > > > to
> > > > > figure out where in the icon area that should go so it doesn't 
> > > > > conflict
> > > > > with the VPN lock.  Because you certainly can have an active VPN over
> > > > > cellular.
> > > > 
> > > > Urgh, now we're starting to have problems... Colours are obviously going
> > > > to be better as long as there is detailed explanation somewhere of what
> > > > they mean. Mockups attached for discussion. 
> > > > 
> > > > vpn-umts.svg - My first impression of this is that it's starting to get
> > > > crowded, and I can make the padlock smaller but loose detail which I
> > > > feel is critical. 
> > > > 
> > > > vpn-umts2.svg - Slightly less crowded and more appealing I feel, only
> > > > 3px tall to denote the technology, so we'll have to use vibrant colours
> > > > which aren't in the tango palette :/
> > > 
> > > Thinking in these terms now, and maybe the signal strength bars can be
> > > altered too...
> > 
> > this is just my own opinion, but i kinda like the icon style that looks
> > a bit more like radio waves [1] better as they are symmetrical and look
> > more like something is transmitted over the air than the current bars
> > that stand next to each other, aligned at the bottom.
> > i'd like to see such icons in NM and would like to know your opinion on
> > this.
> 
> This is a good design, but I wonder about the apple-esque appearance...
> It wouldn't be difficult for me to make up some new icons with that
> design, and the padlock placement could end up being a little better, we
> could also look at having the bars different colours to specify
> different network types wifi, gprs etc... Of course this wouldn't be
> ideal in code, but we could work around that i believe.

I wouldn't use different colors for different connection types, as that
might be bad for color blind people.
> 
> BR,
>  K
> 


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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 18:47 +0100, Björn Martensen wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:22 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:50 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:07 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same 
> > > > > > > > > overall
> > > > > > > > > size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock 
> > > > > > > > > itself so
> > > > > > > > > it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress 
> > > > > > > > > twirlie can
> > > > > > > > > probably stay where it is.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Existing connection with VPN active:
> > > > > > > > > http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to 
> > > > > > > > you as
> > > > > > > > soon as I can see a good solution.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock down 
> > > > > > > and to
> > > > > > > the right in the existing images would be just fine.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Probably, but I'd rather do some sketches of some other ideas, I 
> > > > > > mean
> > > > > > it's only one image which is used as an overlay, so that one could 
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > fixed easily, but I'm thinking now in terms of the progress meter 
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > vpn.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Maybe if we are moving the padlock down, then I could use icons 
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > are similar to the standard connecting animation but instead of a 
> > > > > > dot a
> > > > > > keyhole or something instead.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm mulling it, there's some space for flexibility. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hopefully i can knock up some updated icons today, and while i'm at 
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > classify them into sizes for 16,22 and 24
> > > > > 
> > > > > Actually as the padlock is composited we could probably benefit from
> > > > > compositing the icons for gsm/gprs, edge, umts, hsdpa and anything 
> > > > > else
> > > > > that comes along, maybe the recently submitted patch should be updated
> > > > > to work in these terms?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, that's what I replied to it with.  The code has "layers", and there
> > > > are currently two layers: device and VPN.  We can certainly add a mobile
> > > > broadband layer in which the mobile broadband badge goes.  Just need to
> > > > figure out where in the icon area that should go so it doesn't conflict
> > > > with the VPN lock.  Because you certainly can have an active VPN over
> > > > cellular.
> > > 
> > > Urgh, now we're starting to have problems... Colours are obviously going
> > > to be better as long as there is detailed explanation somewhere of what
> > > they mean. Mockups attached for discussion. 
> > > 
> > > vpn-umts.svg - My first impression of this is that it's starting to get
> > > crowded, and I can make the padlock smaller but loose detail which I
> > > feel is critical. 
> > > 
> > > vpn-umts2.svg - Slightly less crowded and more appealing I feel, only
> > > 3px tall to denote the technology, so we'll have to use vibrant colours
> > > which aren't in the tango palette :/
> > 
> > Thinking in these terms now, and maybe the signal strength bars can be
> > altered too...
> 
> this is just my own opinion, but i kinda like the icon style that looks
> a bit more like radio waves [1] better as they are symmetrical and look
> more like something is transmitted over the air than the current bars
> that stand next to each other, aligned at the bottom.
> i'd like to see such icons in NM and would like to know your opinion on
> this.

This is a good design, but I wonder about the apple-esque appearance...
It wouldn't be difficult for me to make up some new icons with that
design, and the padlock placement could end up being a little better, we
could also look at having the bars different colours to specify
different network types wifi, gprs etc... Of course this wouldn't be
ideal in code, but we could work around that i believe.

BR,
 K

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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Björn Martensen
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:22 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:50 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:07 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > > > > > So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same 
> > > > > > > > overall
> > > > > > > > size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock 
> > > > > > > > itself so
> > > > > > > > it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress 
> > > > > > > > twirlie can
> > > > > > > > probably stay where it is.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Existing connection with VPN active:
> > > > > > > > http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to 
> > > > > > > you as
> > > > > > > soon as I can see a good solution.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock down 
> > > > > > and to
> > > > > > the right in the existing images would be just fine.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Probably, but I'd rather do some sketches of some other ideas, I mean
> > > > > it's only one image which is used as an overlay, so that one could be
> > > > > fixed easily, but I'm thinking now in terms of the progress meter for
> > > > > vpn.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Maybe if we are moving the padlock down, then I could use icons which
> > > > > are similar to the standard connecting animation but instead of a dot 
> > > > > a
> > > > > keyhole or something instead.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm mulling it, there's some space for flexibility. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hopefully i can knock up some updated icons today, and while i'm at it
> > > > > classify them into sizes for 16,22 and 24
> > > > 
> > > > Actually as the padlock is composited we could probably benefit from
> > > > compositing the icons for gsm/gprs, edge, umts, hsdpa and anything else
> > > > that comes along, maybe the recently submitted patch should be updated
> > > > to work in these terms?
> > > 
> > > Yes, that's what I replied to it with.  The code has "layers", and there
> > > are currently two layers: device and VPN.  We can certainly add a mobile
> > > broadband layer in which the mobile broadband badge goes.  Just need to
> > > figure out where in the icon area that should go so it doesn't conflict
> > > with the VPN lock.  Because you certainly can have an active VPN over
> > > cellular.
> > 
> > Urgh, now we're starting to have problems... Colours are obviously going
> > to be better as long as there is detailed explanation somewhere of what
> > they mean. Mockups attached for discussion. 
> > 
> > vpn-umts.svg - My first impression of this is that it's starting to get
> > crowded, and I can make the padlock smaller but loose detail which I
> > feel is critical. 
> > 
> > vpn-umts2.svg - Slightly less crowded and more appealing I feel, only
> > 3px tall to denote the technology, so we'll have to use vibrant colours
> > which aren't in the tango palette :/
> 
> Thinking in these terms now, and maybe the signal strength bars can be
> altered too...

this is just my own opinion, but i kinda like the icon style that looks
a bit more like radio waves [1] better as they are symmetrical and look
more like something is transmitted over the air than the current bars
that stand next to each other, aligned at the bottom.
i'd like to see such icons in NM and would like to know your opinion on
this.

greets,
Björn

[1]
http://www.o2.co.uk/assets/O2HybridNav/Static-files/Kana/wifi_50x50.gif

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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:50 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:07 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > > > > So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same 
> > > > > > > overall
> > > > > > > size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock itself 
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress twirlie 
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > probably stay where it is.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Existing connection with VPN active:
> > > > > > > http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to you 
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > soon as I can see a good solution.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock down and 
> > > > > to
> > > > > the right in the existing images would be just fine.
> > > > 
> > > > Probably, but I'd rather do some sketches of some other ideas, I mean
> > > > it's only one image which is used as an overlay, so that one could be
> > > > fixed easily, but I'm thinking now in terms of the progress meter for
> > > > vpn.
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe if we are moving the padlock down, then I could use icons which
> > > > are similar to the standard connecting animation but instead of a dot a
> > > > keyhole or something instead.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm mulling it, there's some space for flexibility. 
> > > > 
> > > > Hopefully i can knock up some updated icons today, and while i'm at it
> > > > classify them into sizes for 16,22 and 24
> > > 
> > > Actually as the padlock is composited we could probably benefit from
> > > compositing the icons for gsm/gprs, edge, umts, hsdpa and anything else
> > > that comes along, maybe the recently submitted patch should be updated
> > > to work in these terms?
> > 
> > Yes, that's what I replied to it with.  The code has "layers", and there
> > are currently two layers: device and VPN.  We can certainly add a mobile
> > broadband layer in which the mobile broadband badge goes.  Just need to
> > figure out where in the icon area that should go so it doesn't conflict
> > with the VPN lock.  Because you certainly can have an active VPN over
> > cellular.
> 
> Urgh, now we're starting to have problems... Colours are obviously going
> to be better as long as there is detailed explanation somewhere of what
> they mean. Mockups attached for discussion. 
> 
> vpn-umts.svg - My first impression of this is that it's starting to get
> crowded, and I can make the padlock smaller but loose detail which I
> feel is critical. 
> 
> vpn-umts2.svg - Slightly less crowded and more appealing I feel, only
> 3px tall to denote the technology, so we'll have to use vibrant colours
> which aren't in the tango palette :/

Thinking in these terms now, and maybe the signal strength bars can be
altered too...

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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:50 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:07 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > > > So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same overall
> > > > > > size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock itself so
> > > > > > it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress twirlie can
> > > > > > probably stay where it is.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Existing connection with VPN active:
> > > > > > http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to you as
> > > > > soon as I can see a good solution.
> > > > 
> > > > Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock down and to
> > > > the right in the existing images would be just fine.
> > > 
> > > Probably, but I'd rather do some sketches of some other ideas, I mean
> > > it's only one image which is used as an overlay, so that one could be
> > > fixed easily, but I'm thinking now in terms of the progress meter for
> > > vpn.
> > > 
> > > Maybe if we are moving the padlock down, then I could use icons which
> > > are similar to the standard connecting animation but instead of a dot a
> > > keyhole or something instead.
> > > 
> > > I'm mulling it, there's some space for flexibility. 
> > > 
> > > Hopefully i can knock up some updated icons today, and while i'm at it
> > > classify them into sizes for 16,22 and 24
> > 
> > Actually as the padlock is composited we could probably benefit from
> > compositing the icons for gsm/gprs, edge, umts, hsdpa and anything else
> > that comes along, maybe the recently submitted patch should be updated
> > to work in these terms?
> 
> Yes, that's what I replied to it with.  The code has "layers", and there
> are currently two layers: device and VPN.  We can certainly add a mobile
> broadband layer in which the mobile broadband badge goes.  Just need to
> figure out where in the icon area that should go so it doesn't conflict
> with the VPN lock.  Because you certainly can have an active VPN over
> cellular.

Urgh, now we're starting to have problems... Colours are obviously going
to be better as long as there is detailed explanation somewhere of what
they mean. Mockups attached for discussion. 

vpn-umts.svg - My first impression of this is that it's starting to get
crowded, and I can make the padlock smaller but loose detail which I
feel is critical. 

vpn-umts2.svg - Slightly less crowded and more appealing I feel, only
3px tall to denote the technology, so we'll have to use vibrant colours
which aren't in the tango palette :/

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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:07 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > > So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same overall
> > > > > size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock itself so
> > > > > it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress twirlie can
> > > > > probably stay where it is.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Existing connection with VPN active:
> > > > > http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png
> > > > 
> > > > Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to you as
> > > > soon as I can see a good solution.
> > > 
> > > Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock down and to
> > > the right in the existing images would be just fine.
> > 
> > Probably, but I'd rather do some sketches of some other ideas, I mean
> > it's only one image which is used as an overlay, so that one could be
> > fixed easily, but I'm thinking now in terms of the progress meter for
> > vpn.
> > 
> > Maybe if we are moving the padlock down, then I could use icons which
> > are similar to the standard connecting animation but instead of a dot a
> > keyhole or something instead.
> > 
> > I'm mulling it, there's some space for flexibility. 
> > 
> > Hopefully i can knock up some updated icons today, and while i'm at it
> > classify them into sizes for 16,22 and 24
> 
> Actually as the padlock is composited we could probably benefit from
> compositing the icons for gsm/gprs, edge, umts, hsdpa and anything else
> that comes along, maybe the recently submitted patch should be updated
> to work in these terms?

Yes, that's what I replied to it with.  The code has "layers", and there
are currently two layers: device and VPN.  We can certainly add a mobile
broadband layer in which the mobile broadband badge goes.  Just need to
figure out where in the icon area that should go so it doesn't conflict
with the VPN lock.  Because you certainly can have an active VPN over
cellular.

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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:07 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same overall
> > > > size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock itself so
> > > > it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress twirlie can
> > > > probably stay where it is.
> > > > 
> > > > Existing connection with VPN active:
> > > > http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png
> > > 
> > > Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to you as
> > > soon as I can see a good solution.
> > 
> > Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock down and to
> > the right in the existing images would be just fine.
> 
> Probably, but I'd rather do some sketches of some other ideas, I mean
> it's only one image which is used as an overlay, so that one could be
> fixed easily, but I'm thinking now in terms of the progress meter for
> vpn.
> 
> Maybe if we are moving the padlock down, then I could use icons which
> are similar to the standard connecting animation but instead of a dot a
> keyhole or something instead.
> 
> I'm mulling it, there's some space for flexibility. 
> 
> Hopefully i can knock up some updated icons today, and while i'm at it
> classify them into sizes for 16,22 and 24

Actually as the padlock is composited we could probably benefit from
compositing the icons for gsm/gprs, edge, umts, hsdpa and anything else
that comes along, maybe the recently submitted patch should be updated
to work in these terms?

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Re: [PATCH] nm-applet for MBM (Show technology)

2008-10-28 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:50 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 11:15 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 16:35 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 10:14 -0700, bjornrun wrote:
> > > > Hello NetworkManager List!
> > > > 
> > > > Here are some patches to networkmanager applet for MBM so technology 
> > > > used in
> > > > connection is shown in applet.
> > > > Note this uses the earlier patch in Modem-Manager.
> > > 
> > > Hang on for a bit with these patches, we'll be switching over to
> > > ModemManager imminently and then we can start doing this sort of thing.
> > > 
> > > But, for the icons, don't create completely new ones.  Just create small
> > > badges (the same size as nm-vpn-active-lock.png) and then we'll just
> > > composite them on top of the existing icon in another layer.  There's
> > > already a VPN layer, so we'll just add another for mobile broadband
> > > speeds.
> > 
> > BTW, are there "standard" decals/icons for the speeds?  I know most
> > phones use a G or an E for GPRS/EDGE, and a "3G" for UMTS/HSPA, maybe we
> > can do a bit better and have some more color :)  As long as people will
> > recognize it of course.
> 
> I was going to mention this also, there is actually an icon for
> GPRS/GSM, a stylised E is used for Edge, and 3G for UMTS and 3.5G for
> HSDPA I believe (these are used on nokia phones and possibly others). It
> would of course be nice to get better metaphors for each of these, in
> the same way as the GPRS/GSM icon is descriptive of what it is even if
> it isn't descriptive of which it is.
> 
> Further problems are abound though, for instance if we choose dark
> colours for the glyphs then they won't work on dark themes, and we will
> have some difficulty with tango styling as they'll be so small. 1px line
> width... 
> 
> Probably a good idea to speak with Garret/Jimmac about this as they'll
> probably have some good ideas as to how we can deal with the problem at
> this small size. Also Tango forbits the use of text in icons, I think
> this also refers to numbers and letters, they might not cross
> localisation boundaries very well. 
> 
> Attached is a drawing of the gsm/gprs icon.

Ugh...  changing the tower design itself is a non-starter, because I
just don't think that works.  I think decals or colors are really the
only way to go here.  The tower will also eventually have to have signal
strength so it may have to shift to the left with the signal bars
marching left -> right.

For CDMA in the Americas, 2.5G == 1xRTT (between GPRS and EDGE in speed)
and the icon is usually just "1X".  3G == EVDO (> 3Mbps, comparable to
HSDPA 3.6) usually gets an "EV" icon.  I've never seen purely graphical
icons for these.

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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer

> > > So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same overall
> > > size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock itself so
> > > it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress twirlie can
> > > probably stay where it is.
> > > 
> > > Existing connection with VPN active:
> > > http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png
> > 
> > Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to you as
> > soon as I can see a good solution.
> 
> Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock down and to
> the right in the existing images would be just fine.

Probably, but I'd rather do some sketches of some other ideas, I mean
it's only one image which is used as an overlay, so that one could be
fixed easily, but I'm thinking now in terms of the progress meter for
vpn.

Maybe if we are moving the padlock down, then I could use icons which
are similar to the standard connecting animation but instead of a dot a
keyhole or something instead.

I'm mulling it, there's some space for flexibility. 

Hopefully i can knock up some updated icons today, and while i'm at it
classify them into sizes for 16,22 and 24

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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:52 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 11:48 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:27 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > Sorry about that, lots 'o mail.  I suck.  Yours look better, thanks :)
> > > > 
> > > > One question though: the vpn connecting icons are intended to be
> > > > composited on top of the existing connection icon, and the ones you drew
> > > > are centered, thus they would obscure whatever connection icon was
> > > > underneath.  Is that intended?  
> > > 
> > > Ok, one question, I don't have a VPN to connect to so I just drew up
> > > icons to replace the existing ones, I didn't realise that a composite
> > > would be made... Could you send me an SVG of the layers in the existing
> > > composite so I can have a poke at it?
> > 
> > Hmm, how would I do that?  Basically, the VPN lock is always composited
> > into the lower-righthand corner of the large icon.  Everything else gets
> > centered.  The existing VPN progress icons are built (with the lock
> > positioned in the lower-right corner) so that they can just be smashed
> > on top of the current icon and it'll all be positioned correctly.
> > 
> > So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same overall
> > size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock itself so
> > it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress twirlie can
> > probably stay where it is.
> > 
> > Existing connection with VPN active:
> > http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png
> 
> Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to you as
> soon as I can see a good solution.

Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock down and to
the right in the existing images would be just fine.

Thanks!
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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 11:48 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:27 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > Sorry about that, lots 'o mail.  I suck.  Yours look better, thanks :)
> > > 
> > > One question though: the vpn connecting icons are intended to be
> > > composited on top of the existing connection icon, and the ones you drew
> > > are centered, thus they would obscure whatever connection icon was
> > > underneath.  Is that intended?  
> > 
> > Ok, one question, I don't have a VPN to connect to so I just drew up
> > icons to replace the existing ones, I didn't realise that a composite
> > would be made... Could you send me an SVG of the layers in the existing
> > composite so I can have a poke at it?
> 
> Hmm, how would I do that?  Basically, the VPN lock is always composited
> into the lower-righthand corner of the large icon.  Everything else gets
> centered.  The existing VPN progress icons are built (with the lock
> positioned in the lower-right corner) so that they can just be smashed
> on top of the current icon and it'll all be positioned correctly.
> 
> So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same overall
> size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock itself so
> it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress twirlie can
> probably stay where it is.
> 
> Existing connection with VPN active:
> http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png

Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to you as
soon as I can see a good solution.

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Re: [PATCH] nm-applet for MBM (Show technology)

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 11:15 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 16:35 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 10:14 -0700, bjornrun wrote:
> > > Hello NetworkManager List!
> > > 
> > > Here are some patches to networkmanager applet for MBM so technology used 
> > > in
> > > connection is shown in applet.
> > > Note this uses the earlier patch in Modem-Manager.
> > 
> > Hang on for a bit with these patches, we'll be switching over to
> > ModemManager imminently and then we can start doing this sort of thing.
> > 
> > But, for the icons, don't create completely new ones.  Just create small
> > badges (the same size as nm-vpn-active-lock.png) and then we'll just
> > composite them on top of the existing icon in another layer.  There's
> > already a VPN layer, so we'll just add another for mobile broadband
> > speeds.
> 
> BTW, are there "standard" decals/icons for the speeds?  I know most
> phones use a G or an E for GPRS/EDGE, and a "3G" for UMTS/HSPA, maybe we
> can do a bit better and have some more color :)  As long as people will
> recognize it of course.

I was going to mention this also, there is actually an icon for
GPRS/GSM, a stylised E is used for Edge, and 3G for UMTS and 3.5G for
HSDPA I believe (these are used on nokia phones and possibly others). It
would of course be nice to get better metaphors for each of these, in
the same way as the GPRS/GSM icon is descriptive of what it is even if
it isn't descriptive of which it is.

Further problems are abound though, for instance if we choose dark
colours for the glyphs then they won't work on dark themes, and we will
have some difficulty with tango styling as they'll be so small. 1px line
width... 

Probably a good idea to speak with Garret/Jimmac about this as they'll
probably have some good ideas as to how we can deal with the problem at
this small size. Also Tango forbits the use of text in icons, I think
this also refers to numbers and letters, they might not cross
localisation boundaries very well. 

Attached is a drawing of the gsm/gprs icon.

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RE: Vpn Connections.

2008-10-28 Thread Paul Wouters

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Dan Williams wrote:


Seriously, /usr/bin/cisco-decrypt is the easiest solution by far.  If
you have vpnc installed, you have cisco-decrypt (or else your distros
vpnc maintainer should be shot).  You don't even need network access for
it, and your group secret doesn't escape outside your machine.


It would make sense to split it off in a separate package, since people
not using vpnc or NM but using IPsec directly (openswan, stringswan,
ipsec-tools) might also want to use it for deobfuscating their company
cisco information.

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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:27 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > Sorry about that, lots 'o mail.  I suck.  Yours look better, thanks :)
> > 
> > One question though: the vpn connecting icons are intended to be
> > composited on top of the existing connection icon, and the ones you drew
> > are centered, thus they would obscure whatever connection icon was
> > underneath.  Is that intended?  
> 
> Ok, one question, I don't have a VPN to connect to so I just drew up
> icons to replace the existing ones, I didn't realise that a composite
> would be made... Could you send me an SVG of the layers in the existing
> composite so I can have a poke at it?

Hmm, how would I do that?  Basically, the VPN lock is always composited
into the lower-righthand corner of the large icon.  Everything else gets
centered.  The existing VPN progress icons are built (with the lock
positioned in the lower-right corner) so that they can just be smashed
on top of the current icon and it'll all be positioned correctly.

So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same overall
size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock itself so
it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress twirlie can
probably stay where it is.

Existing connection with VPN active:
http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png

Thanks!
Dan

> > Any chance you could see what they look
> > like with the padlock in the lower-right corner instead?
> 
> If I can see the composite :)
> 
> >   The progress
> > circle might need to be darker (or have a color and a bit more
> > saturation) so that it stands out against the blue of the WiFi signal
> > bars, not sure exactly how you might want to do that.
> 
> The progress circle is supposed to be contrasting with both light and
> dark themes so it is visible but not opaque, I could probably change it
> so it remains contrasting but is a bit more opaque. I've been using
> these icons for a few days now, and the thing that I really like about
> them (even if I am blowing my own trumpet a little) is that instead of
> two separate LED-a-like lights, we have one dot which goes from
> translucent to yellow to green :) This also solves the problem you
> mentioned earlier regarding the progress bar.
> 
> BR,
>  K
> 

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Re: Vpn Connections.

2008-10-28 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 11:24 +0100, Martinsson Patrik wrote:
> Hello all !
> 
> Im using NetworkManager 0.7 in Fedora 9 and seems to have problem with
> the vpn connections, which is a shame because that is basicly the
> function i want to use :)
> 
> Anyway, the question.
> How does NetworkManagaer handle the import of cisco pcf file ?
> What im really interested in is if it uses all the settings i have in
> that file ?
> 
> Settings im wondering about is, 
> 
> SaveUserPassword=0
> SaveGroupPwd=1
> enc_GroupPwd=[hash]
> 
> Why im wondering this is because when i make a connection to my vpn
> network and i type in the right password, everything works well, but
> if i disconnect and then make second try to connect i want to type in
> a new password (couse we have these RSA secureID tags where we get our
> passwords from for each connection), however i never get
> asked/prompted to type in the password again, it seems like it tries
> to connect with the old password, which of course is not successful..I
> look at the debug messages and what I get is this,

NM-vpnc doesn't yet support the RSA secureID tags.  We'll be doing this
soon (post 0.7) but at the moment, we cannot handle the
challenge/response very well.  There are patches in Fedora to "only save
the group password in the keyring" which you might be able to use, but
upstream we'll fix this in a better manner.

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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
> Sorry about that, lots 'o mail.  I suck.  Yours look better, thanks :)
> 
> One question though: the vpn connecting icons are intended to be
> composited on top of the existing connection icon, and the ones you drew
> are centered, thus they would obscure whatever connection icon was
> underneath.  Is that intended?  

Ok, one question, I don't have a VPN to connect to so I just drew up
icons to replace the existing ones, I didn't realise that a composite
would be made... Could you send me an SVG of the layers in the existing
composite so I can have a poke at it?

> Any chance you could see what they look
> like with the padlock in the lower-right corner instead?

If I can see the composite :)

>   The progress
> circle might need to be darker (or have a color and a bit more
> saturation) so that it stands out against the blue of the WiFi signal
> bars, not sure exactly how you might want to do that.

The progress circle is supposed to be contrasting with both light and
dark themes so it is visible but not opaque, I could probably change it
so it remains contrasting but is a bit more opaque. I've been using
these icons for a few days now, and the thing that I really like about
them (even if I am blowing my own trumpet a little) is that instead of
two separate LED-a-like lights, we have one dot which goes from
translucent to yellow to green :) This also solves the problem you
mentioned earlier regarding the progress bar.

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RE: Vpn Connections.

2008-10-28 Thread Patrik Martinsson
Well, the problem in my case wasnt the decrypting. 
I was just a bit curios how it handled it, but that part worked out as 
expected. 

Did anybody by chance had a look at the problem i described yesterday ?

>This is what not seems to be working, at least in my case. 
>When im entering a key that is not valid, if i let say by mistake typed in 
>wrong key it will say something like "Cant connect to vpn etc." which is fine, 
>but then when im trying to connect again, i don't get prompted for another 
>password, it just uses the old one and quickly tells me "Cant connect to vpn 
>etc."
>However, if i successfully connects to a vpn network (when i typed in the 
>right key ofcourse) and then disconnects and then again connect to it, it will 
>ask me for a password, which is the way it should behave. 
 /Patrik 


> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Vpn Connections.
> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:43:42 +
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; networkmanager-list@gnome.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Subject: Re: Vpn Connections.
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:01:28 -0400
> > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; networkmanager-list@gnome.org
> > 
> > On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 12:34 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
> >> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Martinsson Patrik wrote:
> >> 
> >>> How does NetworkManagaer handle the import of cisco pcf file ? 
> >>> What im really interested in is if it uses all the settings i have in 
> >>> that file ?
> >> 
> >> Openswan has a pcf2os.pl script on contrib/ that can convert pcf files to 
> >> openswan
> >> config files. However, the pcf file can contain an obfuscated group PSK. I 
> >> don't know
> >> if anyone ever wrote a proper deobfuscation program. There used to be 
> >> something at
> >> http://femto.cs.uiuc.edu/~sbond/vpnc/ which basically amounted to running 
> >> the
> >> cisco client through ltrace -i and read it from a memcpy statement.
> > 
> > It's been completely handled now, vpnc ships a 'cisco-decrypt' in the
> > tarball which doesn't depend on the binary cisco client.  There are some
> > patches awaiting my review that will automatically decrypt the group
> > password on import.
> > 
> > Dan
> 
> In fact, it's even easier. vpnc runs a web form to decode encrypted group 
> password. You just have to type in the encrypted password and click decode:
> http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/bin/cisco-decode
> > 
> >>> NetworkManager:   VPN connection 'Connection to SMHI' (Connect) reply 
> >>> received.
> >>> /usr/sbin/vpnc: noninteractive can't reuse password
> >> 
> >> If this is using XAUTH, Openswan now supports storing the XAUTH password 
> >> in its
> >> /etc/ipsec.secrets file (though I know NM would like to be able to just 
> >> pass all
> >> arguments to openswan)
> >> 
> >> Paul, who wishes he had more cycles to spend on integrating NM and 
> >> openswan.
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Re: [PATCH] nm-applet for MBM (Show technology)

2008-10-28 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 16:35 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 10:14 -0700, bjornrun wrote:
> > Hello NetworkManager List!
> > 
> > Here are some patches to networkmanager applet for MBM so technology used in
> > connection is shown in applet.
> > Note this uses the earlier patch in Modem-Manager.
> 
> Hang on for a bit with these patches, we'll be switching over to
> ModemManager imminently and then we can start doing this sort of thing.
> 
> But, for the icons, don't create completely new ones.  Just create small
> badges (the same size as nm-vpn-active-lock.png) and then we'll just
> composite them on top of the existing icon in another layer.  There's
> already a VPN layer, so we'll just add another for mobile broadband
> speeds.

BTW, are there "standard" decals/icons for the speeds?  I know most
phones use a G or an E for GPRS/EDGE, and a "3G" for UMTS/HSPA, maybe we
can do a bit better and have some more color :)  As long as people will
recognize it of course.

Dan

> However, where would it go?  The VPN lock already occupies the
> lower-right corner, so that can't be used.  We can't cover up too much
> of the signal strength bars, otherwise it starts getting rediculous...
> we may want to hold off on speed icons until we redesign the applet UI.
> 
> Dan
> 
> > Regards,
> > Bjorn
> > 
> > @@ -316,6 +347,7 @@
> >char **tip,
> >NMApplet *applet)
> >  {
> > +   NMAGsmModem *modem;
> > GdkPixbuf *pixbuf = NULL;
> > const char *iface;
> > NMSettingConnection *s_con = NULL;
> > @@ -335,16 +367,82 @@
> > *tip = g_strdup_printf (_("Waiting for user authentication on 
> > device
> > '%s'..."), iface);
> > break;
> > case NM_DEVICE_STATE_ACTIVATED:
> > -   if (s_con) {
> > -   const char *id;
> > +   modem = (NMAGsmModem *) g_object_get_data (G_OBJECT (device),
> > "gsm-modem");
> > +   if (modem) {
> > +   char *oper_code;
> > +   char *oper_name;
> > +   guint32 reg_status;
> > +   guint32 quality;
> > +   guint32 network_mode;
> > +   
> > +
> > +   quality = nma_gsm_modem_get_signal_quality (modem);
> > +   quality = CLAMP (quality, 0, 100);
> > +   network_mode = nma_gsm_modem_get_network_mode (modem);
> > +
> > +   g_debug("quality = %d, net = %d", quality, 
> > network_mode);
> > +
> > +   if (quality > 80) {
> > +   switch (network_mode) {
> > +   case MM_MODEM_GSM_NETWORK_MODE_HSDPA:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_100_H_icon; 
> > break;
> > +   case MM_MODEM_GSM_NETWORK_MODE_3G:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_100_U_icon; 
> > break;
> > +   case MM_MODEM_GSM_NETWORK_MODE_GPRS:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_100_E_icon; 
> > break;
> > +   default:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_100_icon;
> > +   }
> > +   } else if (quality > 55) {
> > +   switch (network_mode) {
> > +   case MM_MODEM_GSM_NETWORK_MODE_HSDPA:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_75_H_icon; 
> > break;
> > +   case MM_MODEM_GSM_NETWORK_MODE_3G:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_75_U_icon; 
> > break;
> > +   case MM_MODEM_GSM_NETWORK_MODE_GPRS:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_75_E_icon; 
> > break;
> > +   default:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_75_icon;
> > +   }
> > +   } else if (quality > 30) {
> > +   switch (network_mode) {
> > +   case MM_MODEM_GSM_NETWORK_MODE_HSDPA:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_50_H_icon; 
> > break;
> > +   case MM_MODEM_GSM_NETWORK_MODE_3G:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_50_U_icon; 
> > break;
> > +   case MM_MODEM_GSM_NETWORK_MODE_GPRS:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_50_E_icon; 
> > break;
> > +   default:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_50_icon;
> > +   }
> > +   } else if (quality > 5) {
> > +   switch (network_mode) {
> > +   case MM_MODEM_GSM_NETWORK_MODE_HSDPA:
> > +   pixbuf = applet->wireless_25_H_icon; 
> > break;
> > +   ca

Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 22:24 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 12:59 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 17:14 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > > 
> > > I've always loathed the icons shipped with fedora for network manager,
> > > they just don't seem to fit with our current gnome look. 
> > > 
> > > Over the weekend I sat and drew up some new icons, they're inspired a
> > > bit by jimmac's new icons for suse as seen here
> > > http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=NetworkManager
> > > 
> > > I've only done these icons in 24x24 but could do 22x22 and 16x16 if
> > > asked *really* nicely :)
> > 
> > Yep, I've seen these, there's a bug open for them on gnome.org, but
> > there's on objection I have:  the "progress" icon re-uses the signal
> > strength bars as the progress meter, which is confusing.  If the
> > progress icons were re-done using the spinning balls or some other
> > indicator, then I'd do another eval and they might just get committed...
> > jimmac declined to spend time on that.
> > 
> > Dan
> 
> Did you by any chance take a look at the icons I drew?
> 
> > > You can grab the icons from here;
> > > http://www.wine-doors.org/releases/nm-applet-icons.tar.gz 
> > > 

Sorry about that, lots 'o mail.  I suck.  Yours look better, thanks :)

One question though: the vpn connecting icons are intended to be
composited on top of the existing connection icon, and the ones you drew
are centered, thus they would obscure whatever connection icon was
underneath.  Is that intended?  Any chance you could see what they look
like with the padlock in the lower-right corner instead?  The progress
circle might need to be darker (or have a color and a bit more
saturation) so that it stands out against the blue of the WiFi signal
bars, not sure exactly how you might want to do that.

Thanks!
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RE: Vpn Connections.

2008-10-28 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 08:43 +, New Acct wrote:
> 
> 
> > Subject: Re: Vpn Connections.
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:01:28 -0400
> > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; networkmanager-list@gnome.org
> > 
> > On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 12:34 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
> >> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Martinsson Patrik wrote:
> >> 
> >>> How does NetworkManagaer handle the import of cisco pcf file ? 
> >>> What im really interested in is if it uses all the settings i have in 
> >>> that file ?
> >> 
> >> Openswan has a pcf2os.pl script on contrib/ that can convert pcf files to 
> >> openswan
> >> config files. However, the pcf file can contain an obfuscated group PSK. I 
> >> don't know
> >> if anyone ever wrote a proper deobfuscation program. There used to be 
> >> something at
> >> http://femto.cs.uiuc.edu/~sbond/vpnc/ which basically amounted to running 
> >> the
> >> cisco client through ltrace -i and read it from a memcpy statement.
> > 
> > It's been completely handled now, vpnc ships a 'cisco-decrypt' in the
> > tarball which doesn't depend on the binary cisco client.  There are some
> > patches awaiting my review that will automatically decrypt the group
> > password on import.
> > 
> > Dan
> 
> In fact, it's even easier. vpnc runs a web form to decode encrypted group 
> password. You just have to type in the encrypted password and click decode:
> http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/bin/cisco-decode

Um, that's sort of insecure :)

Seriously, /usr/bin/cisco-decrypt is the easiest solution by far.  If
you have vpnc installed, you have cisco-decrypt (or else your distros
vpnc maintainer should be shot).  You don't even need network access for
it, and your group secret doesn't escape outside your machine.

Dan

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Re: mbca: CDMA operator issues

2008-10-28 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:07 +0200, Antti Kaijanmäki wrote:
> pe, 2008-10-24 kello 19:02 -0400, Dan Williams kirjoitti:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I notice the Wizard in Ubuntu also doesn't filter for CDMA vs. GSM,
> > which can obviously be autodetected based on probing of the HAL
> > information.  For a given GSM device, you shouldn't show CDMA, but for a
> > given CDMA device, you shouldn't show GSM operators.  I plugged my
> > Sprint card into an 8.10 beta system running NM packages from 2008-10-15
> > and it just showed GSM providers, which obviously won't work for my
> > card.
> 
> The reason why the wizard is showing only GSM providers is that the
> database doesn't yet contain many CDMA providers :) 

The US should be mostly populated by now.

> The list of operators could easily be filtered based on network type,
> but libmbca API doesn't support that ATM :/

Should probably add that API then, it's pretty crucial.

Dan

> > It's also sometimes possible to pull out what CDMA provider the card is
> > meant for by grepping the output of ATI, because the firmware strings
> > will sometimes contain the provider name.  Might be a future
> > optimization to suggest the provider based on that, but let the user
> > override if they wish.
> 
> True, but let's see if we can get network ID's to the database. We can
> use those to present smart suggestions to the users and since network id
> is inquired from the phone it's pretty accurate.
> 
> 
> > There's also http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557819 which has
> > a few more CDMA things for mbca.
> 
> I will look into this.


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Re: [PATH]: modem-manager: fix for coldstart connect problem + parser hooks for unsolicited msgs

2008-10-28 Thread Tambet Ingo
Hey,

A couple of comments:

* Both new regexps and std_parser are leaked. Dereference them in finalize().
* No need to create an empty callback (msg_waiting), you can just send NULL to
mm_util_strip_string().

Thanks,
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[PATH]: modem-manager: fix for coldstart connect problem + parser hooks for unsolicited msgs

2008-10-28 Thread Per Hallsmark


Index: plugins/mm-modem-mbm.c
===
--- plugins/mm-modem-mbm.c	(revision 809)
+++ plugins/mm-modem-mbm.c	(revision 816)
@@ -42,6 +42,9 @@
 
 typedef struct {
 char *network_device;
+GRegex *boot_trig_regex;
+GRegex *msg_waiting_regex;
+gpointer std_parser;
 } MMModemMbmPrivate;
 
 enum {
@@ -245,8 +248,38 @@
 /*/
 
 static void
+boot_trig (const char *str, gpointer data)
+{
+mm_serial_queue_command (MM_SERIAL(data), "AT*ENAP=1,1", 10, NULL, NULL);
+}
+
+static void
+msg_waiting (const char *str, gpointer data)
+{
+}
+
+static gboolean
+mbm_parse_response (gpointer data, GString *response, GError **error)
+{
+MMModemMbmPrivate *priv = MM_MODEM_MBM_GET_PRIVATE (data);
+
+mm_util_strip_string (response, priv->boot_trig_regex, boot_trig, data);
+mm_util_strip_string (response, priv->msg_waiting_regex, msg_waiting, data);
+
+return mm_serial_parser_v1_parse (priv->std_parser, response, error);
+}
+
+static void
 mm_modem_mbm_init (MMModemMbm *self)
 {
+MMModemMbmPrivate *priv = MM_MODEM_MBM_GET_PRIVATE (self);
+
+priv->boot_trig_regex = g_regex_new ("\\r\\n\\+PACSP0\\r\\n", G_REGEX_RAW | G_REGEX_OPTIMIZE, 0, NULL);
+priv->msg_waiting_regex = g_regex_new ("\\r\\n[\\*]EMWI\\r\\n", G_REGEX_RAW | G_REGEX_OPTIMIZE, 0, NULL);
+
+priv->std_parser = mm_serial_parser_v1_new ();
+
+mm_serial_set_response_parser (MM_SERIAL (self), mbm_parse_response, self, NULL);
 }
 
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Re: mbca: CDMA operator issues

2008-10-28 Thread Antti Kaijanmäki
pe, 2008-10-24 kello 19:02 -0400, Dan Williams kirjoitti:
> Hi,
> 
> I notice the Wizard in Ubuntu also doesn't filter for CDMA vs. GSM,
> which can obviously be autodetected based on probing of the HAL
> information.  For a given GSM device, you shouldn't show CDMA, but for a
> given CDMA device, you shouldn't show GSM operators.  I plugged my
> Sprint card into an 8.10 beta system running NM packages from 2008-10-15
> and it just showed GSM providers, which obviously won't work for my
> card.

The reason why the wizard is showing only GSM providers is that the
database doesn't yet contain many CDMA providers :) 

The list of operators could easily be filtered based on network type,
but libmbca API doesn't support that ATM :/


> It's also sometimes possible to pull out what CDMA provider the card is
> meant for by grepping the output of ATI, because the firmware strings
> will sometimes contain the provider name.  Might be a future
> optimization to suggest the provider based on that, but let the user
> override if they wish.

True, but let's see if we can get network ID's to the database. We can
use those to present smart suggestions to the users and since network id
is inquired from the phone it's pretty accurate.


> There's also http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557819 which has
> a few more CDMA things for mbca.

I will look into this.


 -- Antti


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Re: [PATCH] Support default path for importing openvpn configuration file

2008-10-28 Thread Tambet Ingo
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Bin Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's the status of this patch?

I just committed it. Thanks!

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Re: [PATCH] Support default path for importing openvpn configuration file

2008-10-28 Thread Bin Li
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Bin Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 23:41 +0800, Bin Li wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 11:36 +0300, Tambet Ingo wrote:
>>> >> It leaks 'default_path' variable in do_import(). I'd also use
>>> >> g_build_filename() in handle_path_item() in case the path isn't
>>> >> absolute.
>>> >
>>> > Yeah, other than that, looks good though.  If you could post it again
>>> > when this is cleaned up, then we can commit.
>>>
>>> Tambet, do you commit your change?  Do you need I change it like your said?
>>
>> Yeah, if you could provide an updated patch that would be great.
> Update the new patch. Feel free to change it, :)
Dan,

What's the status of this patch?
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Re: How to connect to a specified wireless access point via network manager's dbus service?

2008-10-28 Thread Zhe Su
Do you think this approach is feasible? If not, is there any other solution?

Regards
James Su

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Zhe Su <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> network-manager-applet has a piece of code to create a new default
> connection when connecting to a device which doesn't have connection yet.
> See function applet_menu_item_activate_helper() in applet.c line 313.
> I'm wondering if it's ok to export this piece of code through
> org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings interface.
> Maybe a new method: GetConnectionsForDevice(o: device), which returns
> existing connections for a specific device, or creates and returns a new
> default connection, if there is no connection for the device yet.
>
> Regards
> James Su
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 09:25 +0800, Zhe Su wrote:
>> > Thanks for your feedback.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 23:47 +0800, Zhe Su wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >   I'm writing an application which needs to control network
>> > manager
>> > > via its dbus service, especially to connect the wifi to a
>> > specified
>> > > access point. I'm using openSUSE 11 with network manager
>> > 0.7. After
>> > > reading the documentation and source code of network manager
>> > applet, I
>> > > found that a connection object must be created for the
>> > access point
>> > > before calling network manager to activate the ap. However
>> > seems that
>> > > it's only possible to create connection object by using
>> > functions
>> > > provided by libnm-{glib,utils}. There is no corresponding
>> > methods
>> > > exported through dbus. But I don't want to make my
>> > application depend
>> > > on libnm.
>> > >   So I'm wondering if there is any way to achieve my goal
>> > with nm's
>> > > dbus service only?
>> >
>> >
>> > Do you expect the applet to be running alongside your program?
>> > Yes.
>> >
>> >
>> > _Something_ needs to provide the Connection details to
>> > NetworkManager,
>> > and right now that's the applet.  If you want to replace the
>> > applet  and
>> > provide your own org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings
>> > service,
>> > that would work.
>> > I'm going to use existing settings service instead of providing a new
>> > one. The problem is, current org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSettings
>> > interface doesn't have a method to create a new connection for a
>> > specific device and access point, which makes it impossible to
>> > activate the device in my application if there is no connection for
>> > that device yet. And it might be handy to have a method in
>> > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager to activate a specific device without
>> > specifying the connection (a temporary default connection shall be
>> > created and used by network manager), so that network manager can
>> > still work in many cases without settings service.
>>
>> No, creating a temporary connection won't work because no settings
>> service provides that connection over dbus.  Thus, nothing (like the
>> applet or your application) can actually figure out the connection
>> details, and thus won't know what the connection's name is, what it's
>> uuid is, what it's IP settings are supposed to be etc.  NetworkManager
>> _consumes_ connections, it doesn't provide them.  Thus, something else
>> must provide them.
>>
>> You could try writing out the connection you wish to use directly to
>> GConf, and then the applet will pick that connection up automatically
>> and you can tell NM to activate it.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> > And when will nm 0.7 be released officially?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > James Su
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Once you have provided the connection object over D-Bus, NM
>> > can find it,
>> > and you can tell NM to activate that connection.  You can
>> > BSS-lock that
>> > connection to the particular AP you're interested in.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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RE: Vpn Connections.

2008-10-28 Thread New Acct



> Subject: Re: Vpn Connections.
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:01:28 -0400
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; networkmanager-list@gnome.org
> 
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 12:34 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Martinsson Patrik wrote:
>> 
>>> How does NetworkManagaer handle the import of cisco pcf file ? 
>>> What im really interested in is if it uses all the settings i have in that 
>>> file ?
>> 
>> Openswan has a pcf2os.pl script on contrib/ that can convert pcf files to 
>> openswan
>> config files. However, the pcf file can contain an obfuscated group PSK. I 
>> don't know
>> if anyone ever wrote a proper deobfuscation program. There used to be 
>> something at
>> http://femto.cs.uiuc.edu/~sbond/vpnc/ which basically amounted to running the
>> cisco client through ltrace -i and read it from a memcpy statement.
> 
> It's been completely handled now, vpnc ships a 'cisco-decrypt' in the
> tarball which doesn't depend on the binary cisco client.  There are some
> patches awaiting my review that will automatically decrypt the group
> password on import.
> 
> Dan

In fact, it's even easier. vpnc runs a web form to decode encrypted group 
password. You just have to type in the encrypted password and click decode:
http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/bin/cisco-decode
> 
>>> NetworkManager:   VPN connection 'Connection to SMHI' (Connect) reply 
>>> received.
>>> /usr/sbin/vpnc: noninteractive can't reuse password
>> 
>> If this is using XAUTH, Openswan now supports storing the XAUTH password in 
>> its
>> /etc/ipsec.secrets file (though I know NM would like to be able to just pass 
>> all
>> arguments to openswan)
>> 
>> Paul, who wishes he had more cycles to spend on integrating NM and openswan.
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Re: [PATCH] mm-modem-mbm.c

2008-10-28 Thread Tambet Ingo
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:25 PM, bjornrun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hope this makes the patch more useful!

Thanks! I committed your patch with some minor changes (use spaces
instead of tabs everywhere, remove some debug output).

Why does the MBM modem not query signal quality while connected? The
generic modem code does that because it has ppp connection on the
serial port while connected and thus can't issue any AT commands.

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