Re: veth won't be configured in libvirt managed LXC container

2014-10-19 Thread Lubomir Rintel
On Sat, 2014-10-18 at 16:00 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
 On 10/16/2014 07:08 AM, Lubomir Rintel wrote:
  Hi,
 
  currently it is impossible to get useful network configuration for LXC
  containers on boot. (At least if they're managed via libvirt; I have no
  idea if anything is different with native LXC tooling). They're supposed
  to obtain their configuration via DHCP, but instead connection is assumed.
  Firstly because there's an IPv6 local link address that (I think) gets
  assigned when libvirt ups the interface and secondly because it's a
  software link.
 
  Why do we assume connection on all software links? Virtual ethernet devices
  are supposed to behave much like ordinary ethernet devices; they have
  carrier detection, etc.
 
  I'm following up with the patches that resolve the problem for me, but
  I'm not quite sure about the special case for veth.
 
  Thoughts?
 
 This may be related to a problem in libvirt-sandbox (Secure Containers):
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2014-September/msg00540.html

Does that mean lxc (or libvirt or whatever) is supposed to configure the
interface before spawning the container? In that case it would indeed
make sense for NM to assume the connection.

Lubo

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Re: veth won't be configured in libvirt managed LXC container

2014-10-19 Thread Lubomir Rintel
On Fri, 2014-10-17 at 09:28 -0400, Dan Winship wrote:
 There's a bunch of discussion about this in
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731014. The short answer is
 it's complicated, because veths get used for a bunch of different
 things in different situations...

I'm not sure I understand the outcome there.

Not assuming assuming the connection on a device that is in fact not
configured does not imply doing DHCP on that device. If the user won't
create a connection for the veth device NM won't touch it anyway, would
it?

 -- Dan

Lubo

 On 10/16/2014 07:08 AM, Lubomir Rintel wrote:
  Hi,
  
  currently it is impossible to get useful network configuration for LXC 
  containers on boot. (At least if they're managed via libvirt; I have no
  idea if anything is different with native LXC tooling). They're supposed
  to obtain their configuration via DHCP, but instead connection is assumed.
  Firstly because there's an IPv6 local link address that (I think) gets
  assigned when libvirt ups the interface and secondly because it's a 
  software link.
  
  Why do we assume connection on all software links? Virtual ethernet devices
  are supposed to behave much like ordinary ethernet devices; they have 
  carrier detection, etc.
  
  I'm following up with the patches that resolve the problem for me, but 
  I'm not quite sure about the special case for veth. 
  
  Thoughts?
  
  Thank you,
  Lubo
  
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Re: veth won't be configured in libvirt managed LXC container

2014-10-19 Thread Gene Czarcinski

On 10/19/2014 09:53 AM, Lubomir Rintel wrote:

On Sat, 2014-10-18 at 16:00 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:

On 10/16/2014 07:08 AM, Lubomir Rintel wrote:

Hi,

currently it is impossible to get useful network configuration for LXC
containers on boot. (At least if they're managed via libvirt; I have no
idea if anything is different with native LXC tooling). They're supposed
to obtain their configuration via DHCP, but instead connection is assumed.
Firstly because there's an IPv6 local link address that (I think) gets
assigned when libvirt ups the interface and secondly because it's a
software link.

Why do we assume connection on all software links? Virtual ethernet devices
are supposed to behave much like ordinary ethernet devices; they have
carrier detection, etc.

I'm following up with the patches that resolve the problem for me, but
I'm not quite sure about the special case for veth.

Thoughts?


This may be related to a problem in libvirt-sandbox (Secure Containers):
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2014-September/msg00540.html

Does that mean lxc (or libvirt or whatever) is supposed to configure the
interface before spawning the container? In that case it would indeed
make sense for NM to assume the connection.
My only experience is with Secure Containers created by 
virt-sandbox-service of the libvirt-sandbox package.  Without my 
patches, you can successfully create a virtual NIC with either static or 
dhcp addresses.  With dhcp, dhclient needs to be started. Without the 
patches, dhcp does not work.  I do not know if this problem applies 
generally to containers or not.


Although not a secure container, the following does work:
  virt-sandbox  -c  lxc:///  -N dhcp,source=default  /bin/sh

I has some problem with chrony but, when you get in, ip addr will show 
eth0 with an address


Now, through all of this, NetworkManager is going nuts trying to get 
dhclient to work with vnetN but it never succeeds.


Could someone who understands what NetworkManager should be doing and 
why explain.  It is certainly not clear to me that NetworkManager should 
be doing anything!


Gene
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Re: dhclient: avoiding hostname disclosure via DHCP request

2014-10-19 Thread Robert Horovitz
 I've backported those patches to F20 for you, can you try:
 
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.9.9.0-46.git20131003.fc20
 
 and let me know if it fixes the issue?

Thank you for building that package - unfortunately it doesn't work for
me (hostname still included in requests).

After upgrading to
NetworkManager-0.9.9.0-46.git20131003.fc20.x86_64

I added
DHCP_HOSTNAME=wont-be-used #(tested with and without that line)
DHCP_SEND_HOSTNAME=no

to

/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-SSID


but wireshark still shows my hostname in DHCP requests.

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