Re: Wrong SIM-Pin not detected by MM?
On 15/11/11 09:19, Uwe Geuder wrote: On 15 November 2011 09:55, Thomas Bechtold wrote: MM can handle different modems. Not only modems included in phones. eg. usb-umts-modems aks for the sim pin. Absolutely. But in your first message you had a example for MM PIN handling from an N900. Because N900 is a phone I did not understand how the example could be relevant. You start your phone, press the "Skip" button without entering the PIN code and then you try to use your phone with MM. ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Wrong SIM-Pin not detected by MM?
On 15 November 2011 10:45, Joseph Gunn wrote: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:19:13 +0200 > Uwe Geuder wrote: > >> Probably the implementers of the N900 reasoned a bit like me: Because >> entering the PIN is not relevant at the AT modem interface of the phone >> at all, they just return ERROR instead of implementing anything real. > Is it possible that the phone/computer link is bluetooth? Depending > on the setup that may require a PIN? No, I absolutely don't think so. Any potential bluetooth PIN is handled at a completely different protocol level inside the bluetooth stack, not with AT commands at modem level. In the first posting there was an ERROR reponse to an AT command. Regards, Uwe ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Wrong SIM-Pin not detected by MM?
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:19:13 +0200 Uwe Geuder wrote: > On 15 November 2011 09:55, Thomas Bechtold wrote: > > > MM can handle different modems. Not only modems included in phones. eg. > > usb-umts-modems aks for the sim pin. > > > Probably the implementers of the N900 reasoned a bit like me: Because > entering the PIN is not relevant at the AT modem interface of the phone > at all, they just return ERROR instead of implementing anything real. Is it possible that the phone/computer link is bluetooth? Depending on the setup that may require a PIN? > > If you have an issue with PIN handling you would need to demonstrate it > with a 3G USB modem, which really requires PIN handling by MM. > > Regards, > > Uwe > > > ___ > networkmanager-list mailing list > networkmanager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list -- Joseph J. Gunn CTO, The Curly Cloud Corporation "We're giving Chrome OS a run for their money" 8F56 6689 4AA0 1710 743B F504 6323 A298 D1B1 14D9 ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Wrong SIM-Pin not detected by MM?
On 15 November 2011 09:55, Thomas Bechtold wrote: > MM can handle different modems. Not only modems included in phones. eg. > usb-umts-modems aks for the sim pin. > Absolutely. But in your first message you had a example for MM PIN handling from an N900. Because N900 is a phone I did not understand how the example could be relevant. Probably the implementers of the N900 reasoned a bit like me: Because entering the PIN is not relevant at the AT modem interface of the phone at all, they just return ERROR instead of implementing anything real. If you have an issue with PIN handling you would need to demonstrate it with a 3G USB modem, which really requires PIN handling by MM. Regards, Uwe ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Subject: Wrong SIM-Pin not detected by MM?
Hi Uwe, On 15/11/11 08:42, Uwe Geuder wrote: Ok. Then my general remark would be: Aren't all phones used like that, that they are first powered on and registered to the network? So the PIN is entered using the UI of the phone before MM gets involved. MM can handle different modems. Not only modems included in phones. eg. usb-umts-modems aks for the sim pin. Cheers, Tom ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Subject: Wrong SIM-Pin not detected by MM?
On 15 November 2011 09:12, Thomas Bechtold wrote: > i just tested with a N900.It's more a general question and not a specific > problem with the N900. > Ok. Then my general remark would be: Aren't all phones used like that, that they are first powered on and registered to the network? So the PIN is entered using the UI of the phone before MM gets involved. I don't understand why a PIN would be used in any way when opening a modem connection on a phone. To my understanding (which is not very detailed) MM asks the PIN state from the modem. In the case of a phone the answer should never be PIN required. At least Nokia phones don't require the PIN to make a modem connection. (I have not tried what happens if the phone is in offline mode) Regards, Uwe ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Subject: Wrong SIM-Pin not detected by MM?
On 13 November 2011 19:49, Thomas Bechtold wrote: > i tried NM 0.9 (latest from git) with MM 0.5 (from ubuntu 11.10) and > recognized that MM does not detect a wrong SIM-Pin (with a Nokia N900). > i used a wrong Pin (1234) and got the attached NM logs when i tried to > activate the connection with "nmcli con up id simyo". I have used N900 with NM many times before. Only with 0.8.x though and only with the graphical applets (both GNOME and KDE). I don't understand what you (or the software) want to do with the PIN code at all. For a USB modem the device is turned on in the computer (power comes from USB) and there is no UI in the modem. So indeed, MM has to provide the PIN code. However, N900 is a phone. It is powered on and in the network before the USB cable is even connected. The PIN is provided by the user via the phone UI. Once the modem connection is started there is no need to provide the PIN a second time. Everyhting should work fine without it. Or am I missing something here? Regards, Uwe ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Subject: Wrong SIM-Pin not detected by MM?
Hi, On 15/11/11 08:06, Uwe Geuder wrote: On 13 November 2011 19:49, Thomas Bechtold wrote: i tried NM 0.9 (latest from git) with MM 0.5 (from ubuntu 11.10) and recognized that MM does not detect a wrong SIM-Pin (with a Nokia N900). i used a wrong Pin (1234) and got the attached NM logs when i tried to activate the connection with "nmcli con up id simyo". I have used N900 with NM many times before. Only with 0.8.x though and only with the graphical applets (both GNOME and KDE). I don't understand what you (or the software) want to do with the PIN code at all. i just tested with a N900.It's more a general question and not a specific problem with the N900. Cheers, Tom ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Wrong SIM-Pin not detected by MM?
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 18:49 +0100, Thomas Bechtold wrote: > Hi, > > i tried NM 0.9 (latest from git) with MM 0.5 (from ubuntu 11.10) and > recognized that MM does not detect a wrong SIM-Pin (with a Nokia N900). > i used a wrong Pin (1234) and got the attached NM logs when i tried to > activate the connection with "nmcli con up id simyo". > > NM output this: "GSM PIN unlock failed: (32) Unknown error". I think to > get a correct error mm_serial_parser_v1_parse () should handle the > serial response for 'AT+CPIN="1234"' correct. But currently i get: > > # MM log > [mm-at-serial-port.c:298] debug_log(): (ttyACM0): --> 'AT > +CPIN="1234"' > [mm-at-serial-port.c:298] debug_log(): (ttyACM0): <-- > 'ERROR' > [mm-serial-parsers.c:412] mm_serial_parser_v1_parse(): Got failure code > 100: Unknown error > > > Are there any reasons why this response is not handled as an known > error? eg as MM_MOBILE_ERROR_WRONG_SIM_PIN. Because the modem didn't say it was a SIM PIN error. It doesn't have to be a wrong PIN; it could be something like "SIM not inserted" or even just "not ready" or such. But we have no idea because the modem apparently doesn't know about the AT+CMEE=1 command for enabling verbose errors, which would give this information. So there's not much we can do, and inferring the error code from the operation (AT+CPIN) that was requested is risky since we actually don't know why the operation failed. Dan ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Wrong SIM-Pin not detected by MM?
Hi, i tried NM 0.9 (latest from git) with MM 0.5 (from ubuntu 11.10) and recognized that MM does not detect a wrong SIM-Pin (with a Nokia N900). i used a wrong Pin (1234) and got the attached NM logs when i tried to activate the connection with "nmcli con up id simyo". NM output this: "GSM PIN unlock failed: (32) Unknown error". I think to get a correct error mm_serial_parser_v1_parse () should handle the serial response for 'AT+CPIN="1234"' correct. But currently i get: # MM log [mm-at-serial-port.c:298] debug_log(): (ttyACM0): --> 'AT +CPIN="1234"' [mm-at-serial-port.c:298] debug_log(): (ttyACM0): <-- 'ERROR' [mm-serial-parsers.c:412] mm_serial_parser_v1_parse(): Got failure code 100: Unknown error Are there any reasons why this response is not handled as an known error? eg as MM_MOBILE_ERROR_WRONG_SIM_PIN. Cheers, Tom # NM log NetworkManager[32314]: Activation (ttyACM0) starting connection 'simyo' NetworkManager[32314]: (ttyACM0): device state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0] NetworkManager[32314]: Activation (ttyACM0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled... NetworkManager[32314]: Activation (ttyACM0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started... NetworkManager[32314]: (ttyACM0): device state change: prepare -> need-auth (reason 'none') [40 60 0] NetworkManager[32314]: Activation (ttyACM0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete. NetworkManager[32314]: Activation (ttyACM0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled... NetworkManager[32314]: Activation (ttyACM0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started... NetworkManager[32314]: (ttyACM0): device state change: need-auth -> prepare (reason 'none') [60 40 0] NetworkManager[32314]: Activation (ttyACM0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete. NetworkManager[32314]: GSM modem enable failed: (32) SIM PIN required NetworkManager[32314]: GSM PIN unlock failed: (32) Unknown error NetworkManager[32314]: unmapped dbus error detected: 'org.freedesktop.ModemManager.Modem.Gsm.Unknown' NetworkManager[32314]: (ttyACM0): device state change: prepare -> failed (reason 'modem-init-failed') [40 120 28] NetworkManager[32314]: Activation (ttyACM0) failed. NetworkManager[32314]: (ttyACM0): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0] ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
