Re: [newbie] Plugger
John Aldrich wrote: Hey, all...just a reminder that the Mandrake RPM of Netscape is the Libc5 version, and if you go to get "plugger" or any other C-version specific plugin, you need to get the libc5 version, not the GLIBC2 version. :-) Mandrake itself may use glibc2, but the Mandrake RPM of Netscape is using the older library, which is incompatible with plugins based on the newer version of the c-language library. :-) I found that out the hard way this morning trying to install Plugger. :-) John Hmmm. I'm a bit confused. I thought RH 6.0 and above including Mandrake was glibc2.. Can you explain this? I've tried plugger a few times and it installed, but everytime a web "event" called something to utilize plugger CRASH!... Maybe this is indeed my answer, since I dloaded glibc2. This is damn confusing. How do you tell? How do you know? Ever since the last attempt at plugger in which I had to edit a number of things in Netscape just to get RID of it!!! I find this interesting since all my local linux buddies say GLIBC2!!! If anyone can explain this and tell me how to figure out what I need I would appreciate it!! Alan
Re: [newbie] Plugger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is damn confusing. How do you tell? How do you know? You can tell what libraries an application is linked against using the command: ldd application Because of all the "behind the curtain" work to get Netscape even resembling stable, you'll find that /usr/bin/netscape and /usr/bin/netscape-communicator aren't even the real executables. The real one hides in /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator. Here's the output of "ldd /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator" from the Netscape shipped with 6.1: /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 = /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 (0x4000) libBrokenLocale.so.1 = /lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 (0x40009000) libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4000b000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x4005b000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40064000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x4007b000) libXpm.so.4 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x4008e000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4009d000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400aa000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40159000) libstdc++.so.2.8 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 (0x4015c000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4019d000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401bb000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000) You'll notice that this one is linked against glibc instead of libc 5. Guess it got magically "stable" in the move to 6.1? Cool.. Still confused, but a little less.. I got the same results with ldd. Maybe this is part of this horrendous memory usage I now have.. The libc.so.6 file that runs when netscape runs is huge.. Damn, where's opera! I've tried opera under BeOS and it has potential.. So much so, I'm considering buying it.. I like BeOS a lot, but Linux is still more productive.. And consider 6-8 months ago, Linux was my toy OS and win was the primary.. Nice how things move from the west! Thanks for the info.. Maybe I will try the plugger libc.. Alan
Re: [newbie] Thanks for insights and one more question
Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Seth and friends: Whenever you exit Linux improperly (su - to shutdown -h now), Linux will run the fsck on your hard drives to check and fix and file system errors. It does this magnificently, by the way. It's like the ScanDisk in Windows, only (I am told by experts) much better and more reliable. However, what many may not know (please correct me if I am wrong), is that Linux will run this "check forced" scandisk EVERY 20TH BOOT, regardless of whether your system needs or not. That's standard practice. Yea, I've asked this before and never got an definitive answer. About 20 boots ( in my case, 20 days or so, more or less ) I get the max mount count -- 20 logical! Thanks! Alan
