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To: WS [EMAIL PROTECTED], Votaw, Crystal [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vivian Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tyler Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tina Marceaux [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tina [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim and Rebecca Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas A Lott [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sulain Blackburn [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sue Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sue Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Snelgrove, Annie [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shields, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sheryl Goulder [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rita Borny [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pricilla Sheldon Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phil Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pastor Jack Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED], Parsons Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pam Goulder [EMAIL PROTECTED], Orville Eaves Orville.Eaves@! jacobs.com, Noel Ann Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Murphy, Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marvilene Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Kathy Pritchard [EMAIL PROTECTED], Locke, Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED], Locke, Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED], Locke, Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED], Liz [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lisa Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED], Linda M. Borchardt [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karen Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jo Ann Lott [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jo Ann Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jerry Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jennifer Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean-Francois Borny [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean-Francois Borny [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean-Francois A Borny [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jay Pringle [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jay Housholder [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Kulm [EMAIL PROTECTED]! om, Goulder, Drema [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eddie Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dixon Murrah [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debbie Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dallas Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Clayton Lott [EMAIL PROTECTED], civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charles Massegee [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chapman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carolyn Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bush, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bryan and Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Boliver Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bob=FFand=FFBetty_Bynum?= [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bob Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Billy Graff [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED], Beverly Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED], Beth [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arthur Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Allmon, Boli! ver [EMAIL PROTECTED], Allmon, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED], Allen Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED], ALBERT PENNISON [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED], AGreatDeals [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:24:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0006_01C13ECC.12B3AC60 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: newbie@ X-Sequence: 2079 Precedence: list X-Validation-BY: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Houston Chronicle editorial - an example of stupidity This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0006_01C13ECC.12B3AC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable May I suggest that all who subscribe to this so-called newspaper, let them = know of your response to this editorial. Boliver This is a very disturbing editorial that was printed in the Houston Chronic= le.=20 The thought that this individual could have such a warped perspective, yet = is a Texas state employee teaching our young people is most disturbing.=20 This serves as another example of the leftist psychobabble that we will hav= e to wage a war of truth against, parallel to the war on terrorism that our= country must fight.=20 I see that he is in the journalism school. I would presume to find him in t= he section on fiction. David Teuscher, MD ___ Houston Chronicle 9/14/01 U.S. just as guilty of committing own violent acts=20 By ROBERT JENSEN=20 Sept. 11 was a day of sadness, anger and fear.=20 Like everyone in the United States and around the world, I shared the deep = sadness at the deaths of thousands.=20 But as I listened to people around me talk, I realized the anger and fear I= felt were very different, for my primary anger is directed at the leaders = of this country and my fear is not only for the safety of Americans but for= innocent civilians in other countries.=20 It should need not be said, but I will say it: The acts of terrorism that k= illed civilians in New York and Washington were reprehensible and indefensi= ble; to try to defend them would be to abandon one's humanity. No matter wh= at the motivation of the attackers, the method is beyond discussion.=20 But this act was no more despicable than the massive acts of terrorism -- t= he deliberate killing of civilians for political
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RE: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
Since Mr. Sanchez feels that my question of if this was possible on a Linux machine is not for this list, I guess I will end the thread. Perhaps Mr. Sanchez feels that I have no business on the list either. To everyone who offered suggestions and help, thank you for your time and service. But I do not have time or desire to be told to get off a list that is supposed to be here for asking help. Maybe I am not enough of a geek. So I will leave this to you and hope each and everyone of you have a good day and a great life. Happy computing. On Tue, 10 July 2001, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: This really should be off this list since you are not in a Linux realm anymore... What you probably want is Win2K running either Terminal Server or Citrix/Terminal Server. I've set up systems so that you can PC-Anywhere in to perform a soft boot if Terminal server chokes, and also reboot a hung machine remotely with hardware dialup devices. If you keep the APP count low, terminal server (and/or Citrix) does a decent job. If this is the only program you need up, you'll have pretty good luck. Users would be able to dial in directly or access the applications via the web once authenticated, using the ICA clients. The ICA clients (which are available for Linux BTW) require fairly low end machines, so they can just about run on any old computer with a mouse and floppy drive. Yes Linux is a MILLION times better at this type of scenario, and cheaper, but you are not talking about running Linux native apps. VMWARE has WAY too much overhead for multiple users. Wine doesn't cut it either for this purpose. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Boliver Allmon Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine My concern is system stablity. I cannot be there all the time to reboot the system. I may have to run Windows 2000 or NT, but I am not sure of its ability either. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say that makes the problem MUCH more difficult, and using Linux to run a windows program will most likely cause so much headach that I am inclined to agree with the geeks that suggest running a PCAnywhere type of program. and connecting winders to winders On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:30, Boliver Allmon wrote: No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
My concern is system stablity. I cannot be there all the time to reboot the system. I may have to run Windows 2000 or NT, but I am not sure of its ability either. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say that makes the problem MUCH more difficult, and using Linux to run a windows program will most likely cause so much headach that I am inclined to agree with the geeks that suggest running a PCAnywhere type of program. and connecting winders to winders On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:30, Boliver Allmon wrote: No it is a windows based program. I am going to get Win4Lin to run it, if needed. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: what is the name of this program? is it a linux database? On Tuesday 10 July 2001 19:04, Boliver Allmon wrote: We have a membership record program that we use to maintain church membership and contribution records. I have only had LM 8.0 installed for a week or so, So I still have lots of reading and questions to ask. The system needs to be relatively easy to operate as I would not classify the people using the system as computer geeks. On Tue, 10 July 2001, etharp wrote: I would say there are a load of ways to do this,,, depending on what program you intend to run. you might want to set up a web -enabled (html front end, perl and cgi to process and mysql to be the database) what sort of program did you have in mind/ On Monday 09 July 2001 13:13, Boliver Allmon wrote: Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
[newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
[newbie] Books?
When I go to the bookstore to look for books to read and/or use for reference material all I can find is for other distributions. Will these help at all with my Mandrake 8.0 or can anyone suggest books specifically for Mandrake?
RE: [newbie] *.GZ
I have tried the Winzip 8.0 with no results and WinRAR with no results. Both tell me that the files (four of them) are in an unknown format. I have redownloaded them with the same results. I am guess I will wait until I get home and have access to my Linux machine and try again. Thanks Boliver -Original Message- From: James R. McKenzie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 10:39 AM To: Boliver Allmon Subject: Re: [newbie] *.GZ winzip does this very well. The latest version is 8.0. get it from www.winzip.com T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Boliver Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Newbie (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 10:01 AM Subject: [newbie] *.GZ Can anyone tell me of a program that will allow me to un-archive a gz file on a windose computer? I have some How-Tos I would like to read here at work. I have WinZip, but it does not seem to know what to do with them. Boliver Allmon *Phone: 281-424-0409 K Fax: 281-424-6982 *Location: 58-F36 *e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Dial in?
Can anyone set me on the track of information on setting up my linux (MD 8.0) as a dial in server? I want to be able to dial in from home to work on software at the office.
Re: [newbie] Dial in?
I am sorry for the confusion. My office machine is the Linux machine. My home machine is currently a Windows Me machine. As soon as I can make the office machine do as I need, I will make the OS change at home as well. On the office machine, there are files and programs that I do not and or cannot have at home. I need to be able to access and use them from time to time at home. Some of my co-workers will ultimately need to do the same for productivity reasons. I hope this clears up some of the confusion. Boliver - Original Message - From: Tim Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Boliver Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Dial in? Your email is confusing. You say you want to set Mandrake up to be a DialUp server, and then you say you want to dial from home to work and access software. Which exactly is it you'd like to do. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 12:35AM up 1 day, 3:56, 2 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00 | Can anyone set me on the track of information on setting up my linux (MD 8.0) as a | dial in server? I want to be able to dial in from home to work on software at the office. --
