[newbie] Many thank's for your reply.........

2003-11-15 Thread Paul Downey
Hi Derek,

Thanks ever so much for your speedy reply, Your suggestions are great,
If I understand you correctly, your suggestion / solution implies that the
dial-up /  ppp connection is running on the same machine that fetchmail is.
Therefore the dial up( if-up.local ) script calls fetchmail when it has
brought the modem link up...!

I am not sure if I made my self clear, my apoligies...
My dial-up connection is on another box ( a smoothwall / firewall ) and it
is this box that has a modem
attached to act as my gateway device.  ( dial on demand. )

I run fetchmail on my mandrake 9.0 work station, and it times out with a dns
error
I think this is due to the amout of time that the smoothwall box takes to
dial up my isp?

I have looked into my Reply To setting in my LookOut Express
Once again many thanks.

Paul


- Original Message - 
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] help with fetchmail.


 On Saturday 15 Nov 2003 4:31 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I would be greatfull if some one could plz suggest a possible solution
to a
  fetchmail problem I am having..
  I am currently using smoothwall to connect to my ISP to send/ receive
mail
  / browse the web, via a dial on demand ppp modem connection.
 
  On my Mandrake 9.0 Workstation, I have set up a cron job to run
fetchmail
  several times a day to collect mail.
  The problem I am having is that when cron run's fetchmail at the
designated
  time, fetchmail times out with the following error..
  couldn't find canonical DNS name of pop.myisp.com
  I am running bind as a caching name server and it seems to be working
ok.
 
  The average connect times on my dial up modem connection is 30-45sec...
 
  I run fetchmail with the following syntax  /usr/bin/fetchmail -v -t
200 -D
  mydomain.co.uk -F
 
 
  Is there a way I can get fetchmail to wait for about 30 seconds before
it
  tries to fetchmail.?
  I thought that the -t switch would be the answer, but this doesn't seem
to
  help.
 
  Any suggestions welcome..?
 
  Regards
  Paul Downey
 
  Linux Newbie

 Instead of using a cron job you could put your fetchmail command in
 /etc/ppp/if-up.local  It will be executed after the dial up is
established.

 Alternatively run fetchmail as a daemon. Install the fetchmail-daemon RPM
and
 it will run continuously using /etc/fetchmailrc as its config file. It
does
 not matter if you are on line or not. By default it will poll for mail
every
 180 secs as defined in /etc/init.d/fetchmail

 Also to get bind out of the equation you could reference your ISP's mail
 server by IP address instead of canonical name


 HTH

 derek


 BTW: You do not need that Reply To setting in your LookOut Express
 configuration. Deleting it will make lots of people happy.

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[newbie] Thank you to all that replied - that little script done the trick very groovy.....!

2003-11-15 Thread Paul Downey
Well I tried the little script, and with a few tweeks, I managed to get it
to do what I have been wanting all along...?
many many thanks to all that replied to my emails to the newbie lists.
another happy Linux user  (newbie.)

I am slowly weening my self off using Microsoft's soft ( hope that comment's
not too taboo).

Cheers.

Paul.


Could a small script like this help?

-
#!/bin/sh

# To activate the connection
ping -c 4 pop.myisp.com  /dev/null

# Wait 30 seconds
sleep 30s

# fetch you mails
/usr/bin/fetchmail -v -t 200 -D mydomain.co.uk -F
-

Try pinging pop.myisp.com to find out if the dial on demand connection
is activated.

If so, use the script in a cron job instead of calling fetchmail.

HTH

Adolfo


- Original Message - 
From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Many thank's for your reply.


 On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 16:05, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Saturday 15 Nov 2003 7:37 pm, Paul Downey wrote:
   Hi Derek,
  
   Thanks ever so much for your speedy reply, Your suggestions are great,
   If I understand you correctly, your suggestion / solution implies that
the
   dial-up /  ppp connection is running on the same machine that
fetchmail is.
   Therefore the dial up( if-up.local ) script calls fetchmail when it
has
   brought the modem link up...!
  
   I am not sure if I made my self clear, my apoligies...
   My dial-up connection is on another box ( a smoothwall / firewall )
and it
   is this box that has a modem
   attached to act as my gateway device.  ( dial on demand. )
  
   I run fetchmail on my mandrake 9.0 work station, and it times out with
a
   dns error
   I think this is due to the amout of time that the smoothwall box takes
to
   dial up my isp?
  
   I have looked into my Reply To setting in my LookOut Express
   Once again many thanks.
  
   Paul
  
  
 
  Ok Well in that case  you will not like my second suggestion either.
Running
  fetchmail  as a daemon would cause  your firewall to redial the modem
every 3
  minutes :-(
 
  I assume the firewall saves the packets it has received while it is
waiting
  for the modem to dial, so does the 3rd solution help?  (Using an
explicit IP
  address in fetchmail configuration)
 
  The other solution that comes to mind is to run fetchmail on your
firewall and
  save your mail on there. You could  run your cron job on the firewall
itself.
 
  derek

 Could a small script like this help?

 -
 #!/bin/sh

 # To activate the connection
 ping -c 4 pop.myisp.com  /dev/null

 # Wait 30 seconds
 sleep 30s

 # fetch you mails
 /usr/bin/fetchmail -v -t 200 -D mydomain.co.uk -F
 -

 Try pinging pop.myisp.com to find out if the dial on demand connection
 is activated.

 If so, use the script in a cron job instead of calling fetchmail.

 HTH

 Adolfo










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