Re: [newbie] Re: Why is 7.2 so much slower than 7.1
take a very close look at the programs that are running automatically at boot time. That could be the source of your problems. Abe Original Message --- From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:29:08 -0700 I ran " $ free" and saw that I was heavily into my swap, to the tune of around 227 M. I switched to Gnome and everything is running much faster. I've been monitoring my memory / swap usage, and the most swap I've used in Gnome is about 40M running Moz 0.8. That program eats up buffer / cache too. The thing that's really weird, is a buddy of mine is using 7.2 and KDE on a 200 PI with 64M and his system runs fine. I think somehow I must have sprung a memory leak or something. Oh well, I'm actually starting to like Gnome a lot. It's much more stable than it was a couple of years ago. Thanks, Michael Glen Leinweber wrote: Michael, This is a guess... I wonder if 64MEG is close to the limit for 7.2? Perhaps 7.1 fits KDE and one or two apps fits into 64M without going to swap. Once you get into swap, things really slow down. I've often heard that more RAM often solves speed problems.
Re: [newbie] To any linux newbies who really want to know their system well....
Hey Randy, this is an awesome email. You offer some very good ideas for how total newbies can start to get a handle on how their system is working. Some good ideas for people like myself too: Not a newbie anymore but still a real newbie! I often know just enough to break things real good ;-) Thanks for taking the time to write it and for sharing it with the list here. Abe Original Message --- From: Randy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:31:53 -0600 I do. I threw out the other OS and put this one in. About a month or so
Re: [newbie] quake2 as non-root?
cool. I'll try that as soon as I can. Thanks! Abe Original Message --- From: Trevor Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:40:34 -0500 Abe, Have you tried looking at www.linuxquake.com ? They have a huge message board. You might find your answer there. I had the same problem and quake does require root permission to run. To do this securely do the following: chown root quake2 chmod 4711 quake2 you should be all set. abe wrote: anybody know how to setup quake2 so you can play it as a normal user? I'm really iffy about running a game as root but it refuses to start up for any other user. Abe Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chuthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [newbie] Fast CPU
I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view point on procs. Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900. Mandrake 7.2 is fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for my processors architecture. windowmaker opens from startx (enter) to finished in about 2 seconds ;-) Abe Original Message --- From: Mr S Ganesan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:52:32 +0530 (IST) sorry we in india only prefer intel chipsOn Wed, 27 Dec 2000, John Arkoulis wrote: Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the new fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon) Yes I know G4 is a MAC. Which one do you think is best for Linux??? Thanks -- S.Ganesan Senior Scientist Central Institute of Agricultural Engineering Berasia Road Bhopal 462038, INDIA Phone:0755-730986 (O) 0755-732105 (R) Fax: 0755-734016 Email[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Address:http://www.ciae.nic.in Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chuthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [newbie] Wondering
what processor are you using and did you change the processor type to the appropriate one when you recompiled? I change mine from 586 to PPro and there is quite a bit of difference in performance ;-) Abe Original Message --- From: Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 20:52:21 -0500 I've done it several times, hoping to trim the fat and increase preformance. I've removed several unneeded options, thinking that they were dead weight. I've never seen any difference in the way the system runs. -- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user #175132 Powered by Linux-Mandrake 7.1 Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chuthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux
whatever. this is a dumb conversation. try playing quake3 or UT with only a single mouse button. Mice have more then one button because people use them for more then navigating their desktop GUI. Oh yes, in windows everything on my machine is set to single click but in windowmaker I like double click. Abe Original Message --- From: Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:19:07 -0600 well, in this case this has nothing to do with Windows, but rather gaming... But honestly, I don't understand why a multi-button mouse is a bad thing? It seems like an ergonomic issue. I guess this is the first time I've ever heard that having more than one button on a mouse is a bad thing... -Original Message- From: David Raleigh Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Mark Johnson wrote: FYI, I asked for 6 button mouse for Christmas! yhs: 1 2 3 1+2 1+3 2+3 1+2+3 count 'em. Windows users have bad habits. Pandering to them has seriously harmed linux software, and continues to do so. Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chuthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
RE: [OT] [newbie] Napster Server IP Address Wanted
there's the major flaw in the "Napster is like a library" arguement. Libraries aren't corporate ventures trying to make a profit. Original Message --- From: Mike Tracy Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 13:00:00 -0700 I don't know about England, but in Washington state, taxpayers fund the library system. Also, people donate books, etc to the library. It's not a commercial venture. Mike Well, the music industry being what it is, and this may vary from country to country, I can almost guarentee you that *someone* is paying for that library to just "loan" that CD out on a regular basis. Who funds the public library system in England? -- Mark Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chuthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [newbie] xfree86
Go to init3, make sure there is not an X running, use rpm -Uvh foo.i586.mdk.rpm If the packages won't go you may have to use the --nodeps flag and possibly even it and the --force flag. It would look like this: rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps foo.i586.mdk.rpm I've used the binaries from xfree86 more successfully then the rpms from mandrake though. Just go here: ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.0.1/binaries/Linux-ix86-glibc21/ read the Install.txt and be sure to use sh Xinstall.sh -check so you know for sure which verison you need. Abe Original Message --- From: Joan Tur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:33:00 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: there are RPMs for 4.0.1 in the mandrake cooker list too. It is a silly question, but... what i have to do is just install those rpms? All of them (XFree86, -xvfb, -server, ...)? 8-? Thanks. -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chuthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [newbie] Network StarOffice Install
as far as I know the /net switch only works for staroffice 5.1. 5.2 has a completely different installation scheme. Abe Original Message --- From: Rick Bonczek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:58:04 -0400 When I downloaded the StarOffice 5.2 from Sun, the download was named "so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin". When I executed this, the installation was a local installation. I have several users of the workstation. The StarOffice instructions were to run "Setup /net" from the CD-Rom for a network installation, then install from there for each user. According to this method, each user should add only 2 megs. My problem, is I have one executable only, and do not have "Setup /net" in my download. I've had lots of good help, many suggested: "so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin /net", or "so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin -net" However, I open my CD-Rom, click to open up a Terminal Window, I can enter the "LS" command, and see the above file. When I type either of those two commands, the reply is "no such command". I even try the above command without the /net, or -net, and still get "no such command". Am I missing something simple? Thanks in advance. Rick Bonczek Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chuthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [newbie] xfree86
there are RPMs for 4.0.1 in the mandrake cooker list too. Original Message --- From: pungki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 06:44:13 +0700 http://www.xfree86.org -Pungki On Min, 17 Sep 2000, you wrote: does anyone know where i can get xfree86-4.0.1 or later (hopefully in rpm form) ADAM. Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chuthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
My point exactly. If it ain't broke, it works. Don't fuck with it. Abe Original Message --- From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:36:47 -0400 (EDT) Don't worry Abe. I don't hate you. I think you're perfectly normal for not wanting to push your hardware to the point where it begins to melt down and no longer function. Ain't nuttin wrong wit us nuts! Anyways...the last time I attempted to over-clock my AMD K6 233, the one and only time I might add, the screen went black when I rebooted the machine, and I almost didn't get the thing back up. I learned a good lesson that day. Actually I RE-learned an old lesson ma pappy used to tell me: "If it ain't broke boy, don't try and fix the damn thing. Jest leave it alone." That memory has served me well on many occasions. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Abe wrote: its funny. The hardcore anti-overclocking people hate me because I don't care if people do it and defend the fact that they can do whatever they want with thie hardware. Meanwhile, the rabid overclockers talk shit about me because I don't feel the need to overclock. Why do I feel like I'm at a high school kegger and not interested in drinking? Abe = Original Message From "markOpoleO" [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Your not down with www.hardocp.com then eh? :) Overclocking is the best thing since sliced bread, when i got a 700mhz and O/ced to 840mhz it was awsome, tests showed it. :p markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100] Yes, the sentence "How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even 900mhz then it is now?" from my previous email was intended as sarcastic irony not a true question. I have experience with over clocked ram and cpu's. Like you I've learned that it is not worth it. If I need pc-150 performance I will buy pc-150 DIMMs. If I need a gig processor I'll buy one. Abe = Original Message From John Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Abe, The extra speed that comes as a result of overclocking IS noticable, but not a big change. A more significant question is: if a system is overclocked but stable, how long will it remain stable, and what will you go through before you find the culprit: how much trouble will it cause you and is it worth it. I include a copy of a posting I sent to newbie in May. The relevant sentence is : " These things [ referring to 15% overclocking ] were OK and had worked well for a year and a half." I've done it, and my answer is that I doubt I will overclock again. As always, remember that your mileage will vary. -Gary- Subj: [newbie] beware old hardware optimizations Date: 5/27/2000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had taken hardware optimizations for granted; this is a reminder that things can change over time. Having read here a while back that Linux is very demanding of hardware set me thinking. For the last six months I've had problems with Windows Scandisk completing. I suspected my hard drive was heading toward failure [before I was disabled I was a computer technician, and this IS one of the first signs of hard drive failure a user will see], and before I installed Linux Mandrake 7 I installed a new HDD. The Windows Scandisk problem remained. In trying to solve Linux WordPerfect vs. StarOffice installs corrupting X windows, and sound configuration failures it occured to me to remove my 15% overclocking and accelerated DIMM timing from my hardware. These things were OK and had worked well for a year and a half. Removing the overclocking solved the Scandisk problem. The DIMM timing changed nothing and was reset. Too bad this didn't fix my Linux problems. -Gary- In a message dated 9/13/2000 11:42:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even 900mhz then it is now? And how unstable will it be? Bottom line is, I don't need to over clock it to feel like I got my moneys worth. If it ain't broke it works just fins and should be left alone. Gary if you've been round the industry long enough you'll remember the good old Z-80. We used to run
Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
why don't you buy your own and overclock it since your so damn hot to see an overclocked duron ;-) Original Message --- From: dwyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:38:01 -0500 uh...who talked 'shit' about you? (You dirty bastard...overclock that processor!) :) dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 6:20 PM Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100] its funny. The hardcore anti-overclocking people hate me because I don't care if people do it and defend the fact that they can do whatever they want with thie hardware. Meanwhile, the rabid overclockers talk shit about me because I don't feel the need to overclock. Why do I feel like I'm at a high school kegger and not interested in drinking? Abe = Original Message From "markOpoleO" [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Your not down with www.hardocp.com then eh? :) Overclocking is the best thing since sliced bread, when i got a 700mhz and O/ced to 840mhz it was awsome, tests showed it. :p markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "Abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100] Yes, the sentence "How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even 900mhz then it is now?" from my previous email was intended as sarcastic irony not a true question. I have experience with over clocked ram and cpu's. Like you I've learned that it is not worth it. If I need pc-150 performance I will buy pc-150 DIMMs. If I need a gig processor I'll buy one. Abe = Original Message From John Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Abe, The extra speed that comes as a result of overclocking IS noticable, but not a big change. A more significant question is: if a system is overclocked but stable, how long will it remain stable, and what will you go through before you find the culprit: how much trouble will it cause you and is it worth it. I include a copy of a posting I sent to newbie in May. The relevant sentence is : " These things [ referring to 15% overclocking ] were OK and had worked well for a year and a half." I've done it, and my answer is that I doubt I will overclock again. As always, remember that your mileage will vary. -Gary- Subj: [newbie] beware old hardware optimizations Date: 5/27/2000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had taken hardware optimizations for granted; this is a reminder that things can change over time. Having read here a while back that Linux is very demanding of hardware set me thinking. For the last six months I've had problems with Windows Scandisk completing. I suspected my hard drive was heading toward failure [before I was disabled I was a computer technician, and this IS one of the first signs of hard drive failure a user will see], and before I installed Linux Mandrake 7 I installed a new HDD. The Windows Scandisk problem remained. In trying to solve Linux WordPerfect vs. StarOffice installs corrupting X windows, and sound configuration failures it occured to me to remove my 15% overclocking and accelerated DIMM timing from my hardware. These things were OK and had worked well for a year and a half. Removing the overclocking solved the Scandisk problem. The DIMM timing changed nothing and was reset. Too bad this didn't fix my Linux problems. -Gary- In a message dated 9/13/2000 11:42:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even 900mhz then it is now? And how unstable will it be? Bottom line is, I don't need to over clock it to feel like I got my moneys worth. If it ain't broke it works just fins and should be left alone. Gary if you've been round the industry long enough you'll remember the good old Z-80. We used to run Z-80 based S-100 boards in multi-user MPM systems. The boards (manufacturer forgotten) supplied 1Mhz Z-80's and clocks on the boards which we replaced. We clocked all of the cards on the buss to 10Mhz and got fantastic performance And it worked well on these beasts. We had several very happy customers how really loved the 5 times thru-put increase. Multiple fans the whole 9 yards to keep them cool. However there was a downside. Really pungant smells throughout the offices, smoke detectors going off for no apparent reason, inexplicable loss of data, and what was really strange was the lovely green laquer on the boards went a really dark
