Re: [Re: [newbie] Icons to large]
The year Michael Scottaline wrotes his mail is also too large :) Younes Zouhair On Fri, 08 Feb 2036, Michael Scottaline wrote: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip I would recommend that you reboot the system, and type "linux 3" at the prompt. Then, log in as "root" when you get the prompt. Then, type "xf86setup" (minus quotes on all of these) and re-select your resolution and such. snip John Remember, case sensitive though: XF86Setup ;o) Mike Yup. :-) Thanks for catching that. So used to having to tell people to type "xf86config" instead of "XF86Config." :-) Guess I assumed that XF86Setup was the same way... *sigh* Why can't they make a sym-link to it in all lower-case? ;-) John
Re: [Re: [newbie] Icons to large]
John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip I would recommend that you reboot the system, and type "linux 3" at the prompt. Then, log in as "root" when you get the prompt. Then, type "xf86setup" (minus quotes on all of these) and re-select your resolution and such. snip John Remember, case sensitive though: XF86Setup ;o) Mike ## Michael Scottaline Linux 2.2.13 ## Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
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Just out of curiosity... Does anyone realise that the key strokes CTL+ALT+(keypad +/-) is the method of the system BIOS to toggle the CPU between older TURBO/NORMAL modes. I also wonder is anyone knows about the "(press and hold SHIFT) click OK" while in a WIN9x RESTART that Win will drop out of windows and immediately restart, as opposed to dropping all the way to BIOS screen. Jaguar "Tim Kubista" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just as root run Xconfigurator... or you can try ctrl+alt+-(minus button) and that should go through the different resolutions -- From: Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [[newbie] Icons to large] Date: Sat, Jan 1, 2000, 11:09 PM Jennifer Ricki Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. Thanks Jennifer ICQ:6765592 As root, try XF86Setup of xf86config. You can test BEFORE accepting new configurations. HTH, Mike ## Michael Scottaline Linux 2.2.13 ## Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
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I use shift key on restart when I change something in windows. I suppose I'll not see the next millennium for admitting that! John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net - Original Message - From: Jaguar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [[newbie] Icons to large]] Just out of curiosity... Does anyone realise that the key strokes CTL+ALT+(keypad +/-) is the method of the system BIOS to toggle the CPU between older TURBO/NORMAL modes. I also wonder is anyone knows about the "(press and hold SHIFT) click OK" while in a WIN9x RESTART that Win will drop out of windows and immediately restart, as opposed to dropping all the way to BIOS screen. Jaguar "Tim Kubista" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just as root run Xconfigurator... or you can try ctrl+alt+-(minus button) and that should go through the different resolutions -- From: Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [[newbie] Icons to large] Date: Sat, Jan 1, 2000, 11:09 PM Jennifer Ricki Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. Thanks Jennifer ICQ:6765592 As root, try XF86Setup of xf86config. You can test BEFORE accepting new configurations. HTH, Mike ## Michael Scottaline Linux 2.2.13 ## Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Icons to Large
Thanks for all your suggestions but at the root I cannot execute XF 86 Setup or xf 86 config or find /etc/X11/XFConfig file. If I find one of the files suggested what is the best way to edit it and how do I start an editor. I am running Mandrake. Thanks Jennifer Alan Shoemaker wrote: Jenniferfirst off, I recommend you boot into level 3 and not level 5 to do this. If you are currently booting directly to the gui desktop then that is level 5. The way to change it is to (as root) edit the /etc/inittab file by changing this line: id:5:initdefault: to this: id:3:initdefault: You can change it back when you're done. Now, in the console mode (reboot if you need to), edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config file and look for the section that is something like the below excerpt at the very end of the file: # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64 # I128, and S3V) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "My Video Card" Monitor "ViewSonic PS790" Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "800x600" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Make sure that the ViewPort is set at 0 0 and Modes is set at the resolution you want as default. Save the file and test it by starting the x-server by typing startx on the command line. If it errors out you can put the errors in this list for more help, if not you'll be in your gui desktop at the resolution you wanted. If you're successful then you can change the /etc/inittab file back to the way it was. If not you probably will want to change the /etc/X11/XF86Config file back the way it was first. Good luck. Alan Jennifer Ricki Wise wrote: I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. Thanks Jennifer ICQ:6765592
Re: [newbie] Icons to Large
Try running the following command from your file manager "Xconfigurator" that should allow you make any changes necessary. Including changing to run level 3. Jennifer Ricki Wise wrote: Thanks for all your suggestions but at the root I cannot execute XF 86 Setup or xf 86 config or find /etc/X11/XFConfig file. If I find one of the files suggested what is the best way to edit it and how do I start an editor. I am running Mandrake. Thanks Jennifer Alan Shoemaker wrote: Jenniferfirst off, I recommend you boot into level 3 and not level 5 to do this. If you are currently booting directly to the gui desktop then that is level 5. The way to change it is to (as root) edit the /etc/inittab file by changing this line: id:5:initdefault: to this: id:3:initdefault: You can change it back when you're done. Now, in the console mode (reboot if you need to), edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config file and look for the section that is something like the below excerpt at the very end of the file: # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64 # I128, and S3V) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "My Video Card" Monitor "ViewSonic PS790" Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "800x600" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Make sure that the ViewPort is set at 0 0 and Modes is set at the resolution you want as default. Save the file and test it by starting the x-server by typing startx on the command line. If it errors out you can put the errors in this list for more help, if not you'll be in your gui desktop at the resolution you wanted. If you're successful then you can change the /etc/inittab file back to the way it was. If not you probably will want to change the /etc/X11/XF86Config file back the way it was first. Good luck. Alan Jennifer Ricki Wise wrote: I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. Thanks Jennifer ICQ:6765592
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Pleace do not insert spaces, type command using lower case: xf86config Manually edit use File Manager in super user mode. Regards On Mon, 03 Jan 2000, you wrote: Thanks for all your suggestions but at the root I cannot execute XF 86 Setup or xf 86 config or find /etc/X11/XFConfig file. If I find one of the files suggested what is the best way to edit it and how do I start an editor. I am running Mandrake. Thanks Jennifer Alan Shoemaker wrote: Jenniferfirst off, I recommend you boot into level 3 and not level 5 to do this. If you are currently booting directly to the gui desktop then that is level 5. The way to change it is to (as root) edit the /etc/inittab file by changing this line: id:5:initdefault: to this: id:3:initdefault: You can change it back when you're done. Now, in the console mode (reboot if you need to), edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config file and look for the section that is something like the below excerpt at the very end of the file: # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64 # I128, and S3V) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "My Video Card" Monitor "ViewSonic PS790" Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "800x600" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Make sure that the ViewPort is set at 0 0 and Modes is set at the resolution you want as default. Save the file and test it by starting the x-server by typing startx on the command line. If it errors out you can put the errors in this list for more help, if not you'll be in your gui desktop at the resolution you wanted. If you're successful then you can change the /etc/inittab file back to the way it was. If not you probably will want to change the /etc/X11/XF86Config file back the way it was first. Good luck. Alan Jennifer Ricki Wise wrote: I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. Thanks Jennifer ICQ:6765592
Re: [Re: [newbie] Icons to large]
Tried it. Received the message command not found. Michael Scottaline wrote: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip I would recommend that you reboot the system, and type "linux 3" at the prompt. Then, log in as "root" when you get the prompt. Then, type "xf86setup" (minus quotes on all of these) and re-select your resolution and such. snip John Remember, case sensitive though: XF86Setup ;o) Mike ## Michael Scottaline Linux 2.2.13 ## Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
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JenniferXF86Setup and xf86config do not have spaces in them as you've typed them and it's the /etc/X11/XF86Config file not the /etc/X11/XFConfig file. Use one of the many console based text editors like vi, vim, emacs or joe. Joe is probably the easiest one to use if you've not used any of them before. Type joe /etc/X11/XF86Config to edit. In KDE use kedit, it's the default, you judt click on the file icon to open the file in the editor. Alan Jennifer Ricki Wise wrote: Thanks for all your suggestions but at the root I cannot execute XF 86 Setup or xf 86 config or find /etc/X11/XFConfig file. If I find one of the files suggested what is the best way to edit it and how do I start an editor. I am running Mandrake. Thanks Jennifer Alan Shoemaker wrote: Jenniferfirst off, I recommend you boot into level 3 and not level 5 to do this. If you are currently booting directly to the gui desktop then that is level 5. The way to change it is to (as root) edit the /etc/inittab file by changing this line: id:5:initdefault: to this: id:3:initdefault: You can change it back when you're done. Now, in the console mode (reboot if you need to), edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config file and look for the section that is something like the below excerpt at the very end of the file: # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64 # I128, and S3V) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "My Video Card" Monitor "ViewSonic PS790" Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "800x600" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Make sure that the ViewPort is set at 0 0 and Modes is set at the resolution you want as default. Save the file and test it by starting the x-server by typing startx on the command line. If it errors out you can put the errors in this list for more help, if not you'll be in your gui desktop at the resolution you wanted. If you're successful then you can change the /etc/inittab file back to the way it was. If not you probably will want to change the /etc/X11/XF86Config file back the way it was first. Good luck. Alan Jennifer Ricki Wise wrote: I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. Thanks Jennifer ICQ:6765592
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###FROM linuxnewbie.org Your XF86Config Travel Guide This is how I get through the xf86config procedure. I already know my video card (Trident 9680 with 8 megs), my monitor specs (horiz= 30-35[k], vertical= 43-90), and my mouse is a PS/2 3-button type. My keyboard is a standard 101 key type. From the command line I type xf86config and I see that I can quit at anytime with ctrl-c. For the sections that say "Hit return to continue, I simply hit ret. For the mouse I choose a PS/2 mouse. Emulate 3-buttons? No. This means to allow a two button mouse act like a it has 3 by pressing both at once. (For Linux, a 3-button mouse is very convenient.) For mouse device, I hit to select the default /dev/mouse. Make a link to /dev/mouse? Yes . XKeyboard? Yes. For the keyboard I choose a Standard 101-key. Enable bindings? Yes. Next is the section about hsync in kHz. Even though your monitor might be able to do 1024x768, Linux might complain... possibly a reason why "startx" fails. Don't worry about it. For now you can try something more conservative, like XF86_VGA16 server. Even though you only get 16 colors, at least you 'get your foot in the door' as far as X-Windows is concerned. On the other hand, I have gotten good results by choosing the last one "Enter your own horizontal sync range". So I type 30-35 (do not type "kHz"). Next is the vertical synchronization rate. I choose the last one: "Enter your own vertical sync range" so I type 43-90 (no spaces). (Please note that you should NEVER enter something beyond what your monitor can do.) This is how I answer the next section: Monitor definition: Impression IM1428SV Vendor name: Impression Model name: IM1428SV Next it asks "Do you want to look at the card database?" Yes. I find my card happens to be #577 on the list (Trident TGUI9680). Be sure to get the EXACT right one... don't choose something that is close. I actually purchased a new video card for Linux because I knew it was on the list. Then it shows the one you selected and the server (Remember this server name.) and it says "Do NOT probe clocks or use any Clock line." Next is the dreaded XF86 server. Here is where different choices may or may not work -depending on the phase of the moon. I usually choose the last one "Choose the server from the card definition, XF86_(whatever). This is the best choice, however, if you experience problems you can try something a bit more conservative like XF86_VGA16. Even though you only get 16 colors, it's enough to get X to work. You can change it later . Next it asks "Do you want to set a symbolic link?" Yes! Next is the video memory. I choose the last one "Other" and type 8192. Now this next section is kind of lame: Video card definition: Trident TGUI9680 Vendor: Trident Model (board): TGUI9680 (DUH!?) Next, I do NOT want a Clockchip setting and I do NOT want it to run 'X -probeonly'. (Some video cards need clocks.) The next section is where you can change the modes (for your monitor) . Some people select "The modes are are OK", But I prefer to go thru each one. I start with "1 Change the modes for 8bpp" and then somthing like "432". Then it asks if you want a virtual screen. This means a huge screen that is way bigger than what you see on the monitor. I like to have the virtual screen that is just a little bit bigger than the monitor... that way I can reach buttons at the bottom of the screen like "Apply" and "OK". To To do this you must edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config file. (I'll talk about editing later). Keep going thru this until you are satisfied with the settings. Choose the last one "The modes are OK, continue". Finally it asks "Shall I write it to /etc/X11/XF86Config?" Yes. Do not type "startx" just yet. You should at least look at the file by typing: cd /etc ls | more Now look for XF86Config. If you don't see it, type: cd /etc/X11 ls | more There you should see the XF86Config file. Now type: more XF86Config (to quit, type "q") and use the space bar to go down each page. You will find a section that says something like "Virtual 1600 1280". This is just too big of a screen fo r me. I always edit this line with the vi editor so that the two numbers are just a little bit bigger than my resolution. If you have 800x600, you can set virtual to, say, 875 675 and see how you like it. The reason I like the vi editor is it exists on all UNIX and Linux systems. It's not so hard once you get used to it. I type: vi /etc/X11/XF86Config "j" goes down, "k" goes up, and "h" and "l" go from side to side. To actually insert text, hit "i" and to get back out of the text insert mode, hit esc. To exit and save changes type: esc :wq! To exit without saving changes type: :q! Now try starting X with the command startx. Don't worry if it fails. Read the error message and carefully go over your settings. On Sun, 02 Jan 2000 14:35:15 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try running the following command from your file manager "Xconfigurator" that should allow you
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Jennifer Ricki Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all your suggestions but at the root I cannot execute XF 86 Setup or xf 86 config or find /etc/X11/XFConfig file. If I find one of the files suggested what is the best way to edit it and how do I start an editor. I am running Mandrake. Thanks Jennifer Hi Jennifer, Try "XF86Setup" w/o the quotes. Notice there are NO spaces! Also remember it is case sensitive. HTH, Mike Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2036, Michael Scottaline wrote: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip I would recommend that you reboot the system, and type "linux 3" at the prompt. Then, log in as "root" when you get the prompt. Then, type "xf86setup" (minus quotes on all of these) and re-select your resolution and such. snip John Remember, case sensitive though: XF86Setup ;o) Mike Yup. :-) Thanks for catching that. So used to having to tell people to type "xf86config" instead of "XF86Config." :-) Guess I assumed that XF86Setup was the same way... *sigh* Why can't they make a sym-link to it in all lower-case? ;-) John
[newbie] Icons to Large
I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. Thanks Jennifer ICQ:6765592
[newbie] Icons to large
I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. Thanks Jennifer ICQ:6765592
Re: [newbie] Icons to Large
On Sat, 01 Jan 2000, Jennifer Ricki Wise wrote: I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. run xf86config as root from a command prompt. John
Re: [newbie] Icons to Large
Jenniferfirst off, I recommend you boot into level 3 and not level 5 to do this. If you are currently booting directly to the gui desktop then that is level 5. The way to change it is to (as root) edit the /etc/inittab file by changing this line: id:5:initdefault: to this: id:3:initdefault: You can change it back when you're done. Now, in the console mode (reboot if you need to), edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config file and look for the section that is something like the below excerpt at the very end of the file: # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64 # I128, and S3V) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "My Video Card" Monitor "ViewSonic PS790" Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "800x600" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Make sure that the ViewPort is set at 0 0 and Modes is set at the resolution you want as default. Save the file and test it by starting the x-server by typing startx on the command line. If it errors out you can put the errors in this list for more help, if not you'll be in your gui desktop at the resolution you wanted. If you're successful then you can change the /etc/inittab file back to the way it was. If not you probably will want to change the /etc/X11/XF86Config file back the way it was first. Good luck. Alan Jennifer Ricki Wise wrote: I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. Thanks Jennifer ICQ:6765592
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Hi All, I am new to the list. I to am having the same problem with Madrake, I had succes with Winlinux2000, but not with Mandrake. - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Ricki Wise" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 3:22 PM Subject: [newbie] Icons to large I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. Thanks Jennifer ICQ:6765592
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Jennifer Ricki Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. Thanks Jennifer ICQ:6765592 As root, try XF86Setup of xf86config. You can test BEFORE accepting new configurations. HTH, Mike ## Michael Scottaline Linux 2.2.13 ## Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
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just as root run Xconfigurator... or you can try ctrl+alt+-(minus button) and that should go through the different resolutions -- From: Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [[newbie] Icons to large] Date: Sat, Jan 1, 2000, 11:09 PM Jennifer Ricki Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to reinstall Mandrake, when xconfig came up I was stuck using the default as all the other sizes would not be accepted. Now the icons are way to large and when I open some of the icons like Netscape I can't see the accept button. Is there any way to change the screen size to something like 800 x 600. Thanks Jennifer ICQ:6765592 As root, try XF86Setup of xf86config. You can test BEFORE accepting new configurations. HTH, Mike ## Michael Scottaline Linux 2.2.13 ## Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2000, Dave Gunter wrote: Hi All, I am new to the list. I to am having the same problem with Madrake, I had succes with Winlinux2000, but not with Mandrake. You can go in and manually edit the resolution, but you need to make sure that your monitor can handle any resolution you specify. Here's how -- Below is a copy of a section of my XF86Config: Driver "svga" # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256 #Device "Generic VGA" Device "S3 Virge / GX" Monitor "CTX-1565D" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 # Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device Modes "1024x768" "1280x1024" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA EndSubsection = Now, notice the "modes" line? Edit this line to show any resolution you like. However, it would be MUCH better if you use one of the configuration programs rather than editing it by hand. Also, you should have a "depth" subsection for 16, 24 and 32-bit modes as well as 8-bit. I would recommend that you reboot the system, and type "linux 3" at the prompt. Then, log in as "root" when you get the prompt. Then, type "xf86setup" (minus quotes on all of these) and re-select your resolution and such. There's also a way to specify 8, 16, 24 or 32-bit as the default startup depth, however, I'm not sure how to do that, so I boot to console mode and have an alias defined which starts up X at 16-bits when I type "sx" (the alias for: startx -- -bpp 16) I would recommend you go view the archives as I know it's been discussed several times how to set X to boot to a particular color depth when booting directly to X. Good luck! John
