Re: [[newbie] Internet: slow connection, thrown out.....]
Well to begin with you will NEVER, EVER hear an ISP say it was their problem...it is ALWAYS the clients, they will blame anything and everything...but themselves. As far as I know..once you have connected to the 'Net...your system is like anyone elses while surfing, ie:modem, multimedia, files...it doesn't matter. Also since most of the protocols/file structures used on the Net are based on UNIX, there should be better compatibility. As long as there are no problems with you modem setup, it is like any other modem. As for the disconnects, there are Linux similar programs for RESUMING d/l's, I saw a bunch of them yesterday( similar to BulletProofFTP, CuteFTP, etc...), on one of the RPM sites..(sorry I forget which one...I was site hopping), you may be able to finish the d/l or maybe not...(not sure because you didn't START the d/l with it). Also there are many reasons for getting dropped from your ISP..UNLESS you can state that EVERY 10 mins ( or whatever)you get dropped. As for ISP's yes some are better than other's...talk to friends ask who they use... also look into some of the free providers...they can serve as a backup. I would like to do that...but I have cable, and when I install my jumpered C.L. 56K modem...it takes over on my internet connection. Sorry for my long windedness...:) HTH Jaguar [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Reinhardt) wrote: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doellbachstraße 15 34127 Kassel Joerg Reinhardt Hi, I'm using the german telecom to come into the net. Datastream-speed is something about 1.5K/sec, even less most of the time and they do throw me out the net, from Time to time (especially in very long Downloads...) I complaint about this redicoulous speed of data-transfer (56,7K baud Modem should bring more, I guess, and sometimes it does(up to 5.0), but only for seconds or minutes) and about been thrown out the connection after 3h 58min downloading Starsoft (now I have 98% of it, but nothing worth at all). While complaining, they stayed polite and helpfull till the point I mentioned my system is running on Linux! After their opinion, Linux is some non-professional freaky-stuff, and so every PROBLEM (even the speed of incomming data) is MY PROBLEM!!! Can anyone give me a few good arguments for those F-'s, to tell them that it is NOT MY problem!! (Modem is working great, so it is not mv Problem, or Is it) They denied, that it can happen, that their System throws someone out. They say their is no command for doing it, so I wonder what kind of command they are sending me, when I try to dialup with wrong password. I tryed, just to see and it was identically (checked it with the ppd-monitor) to that, what I received when I was thrown out at this download. I also asked for a second ISP-Adress, cause I guess having only one is what causes the trouble, they told me their can be only one ISP-Adress per domain (propably what they mean is, that their is box in the menue, of THEIR-Internet-entry-windoze-software-CDRom, to put a second address in, but what do I care? their is space for two more Adresses in my default-route-setup and even Telnet gave me two!) My problem is, I'm not a computer expert and if one's questions or mails are not cryptically enought written in experts terms, telecom just ignores them and do send an answer like (If your Internet isn't working properly, check if plug is in!) What to do? Change the Provider? Are the others really faster? Is their anything what telecom could do for solving my problem (cause that would be the easiest way for me, otherwise I got to skip the contract. If I could tell them where THEIR problem is, they couldn't ignore me longer and might solve it instead). Anyone experienced with telecom that way? Joerg Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [[newbie] Internet: slow connection, thrown out.....]
Am Don, 03 Apr 2036 schrieben Sie: Well to begin with you will NEVER, EVER hear an ISP say it was their problem...it is ALWAYS the clients, they will blame anything and everything...but themselves. As far as I know..once you have connected to the 'Net...your system is like anyone elses while surfing, ie:modem, multimedia, files...it doesn't matter. Also since most of the protocols/file structures used on the Net are based on UNIX, there should be better compatibility. As long as there are no problems with you modem setup, it is like any other modem. As for the disconnects, there are Linux similar programs for RESUMING d/l's, I saw a bunch of them yesterday( similar to BulletProofFTP, CuteFTP, etc...), on one of the RPM sites..(sorry I forget which one...I was site hopping), you may be able to finish the d/l or maybe not...(not sure because you didn't START the d/l with it). Also there are many reasons for getting dropped from your ISP..UNLESS you can state that EVERY 10 mins ( or whatever)you get dropped. As for ISP's yes some are better than other's...talk to friends ask who they use... also look into some of the free providers...they can serve as a backup. I would like to do that...but I have cable, and when I install my jumpered C.L. 56K modem...it takes over on my internet connection. Sorry for my long windedness...:) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doellbachstraße 15 34127 Kassel Joerg Reinhardt Do those download managers work in the background together with N.N. or are there standalone programs themselves?? (easier to find in the net, knowing this, cause I found things..., but my english is not good enought to find out wheather it is, what I'm searching for) What about getting more than one IP-address, please correct me if I'm wrong: As far as I understood most domains (such as www.t-online.de) do have more then one IP-address (such as 123.45.678.90) to route from?? So knowing more than one IP-address, of my providers domain, would prevent me from being thrown out the net, when that special host, the one wich number I'm using to connect, would brake down??? Did I get that right, or did I completely missunderstood the whole ISP-thing? I would be pleased to be enlightened by one of you about this Subject, to make a better choice of ISP next time. Thanks, Joerg
Re: [Re: [[newbie] Internet: slow connection, thrown out.....]]
If it's a dial-up connection...the IP is assigned at connect. I could be wrong about the free 'Net accounts. The only difference between your regular dial-up and the free dial-up is the local phone number you call, and the subsequent IP settings. HTH Jaguar [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Reinhardt) wrote: Am Don, 03 Apr 2036 schrieben Sie: Well to begin with you will NEVER, EVER hear an ISP say it was their problem...it is ALWAYS the clients, they will blame anything and everything...but themselves. As far as I know..once you have connected to the 'Net...your system is like anyone elses while surfing, ie:modem, multimedia, files...it doesn't matter. Also since most of the protocols/file structures used on the Net are based on UNIX, there should be better compatibility. As long as there are no problems with you modem setup, it is like any other modem. As for the disconnects, there are Linux similar programs for RESUMING d/l's, I saw a bunch of them yesterday( similar to BulletProofFTP, CuteFTP, etc...), on one of the RPM sites..(sorry I forget which one...I was site hopping), you may be able to finish the d/l or maybe not...(not sure because you didn't START the d/l with it). Also there are many reasons for getting dropped from your ISP..UNLESS you can state that EVERY 10 mins ( or whatever)you get dropped. As for ISP's yes some are better than other's...talk to friends ask who they use... also look into some of the free providers...they can serve as a backup. I would like to do that...but I have cable, and when I install my jumpered C.L. 56K modem...it takes over on my internet connection. Sorry for my long windedness...:) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doellbachstraße 15 34127 Kassel Joerg Reinhardt Do those download managers work in the background together with N.N. or are there standalone programs themselves?? (easier to find in the net, knowing this, cause I found things..., but my english is not good enought to find out wheather it is, what I'm searching for) What about getting more than one IP-address, please correct me if I'm wrong: As far as I understood most domains (such as www.t-online.de) do have more then one IP-address (such as 123.45.678.90) to route from?? So knowing more than one IP-address, of my providers domain, would prevent me from being thrown out the net, when that special host, the one wich number I'm using to connect, would brake down??? Did I get that right, or did I completely missunderstood the whole ISP-thing? I would be pleased to be enlightened by one of you about this Subject, to make a better choice of ISP next time. Thanks, Joerg Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Internet: slow connection, thrown out.....
Joerg, Tell them you know of someone in Austria connecting by ppp using Linux who has no problems. Tell them, if the Austrians can support Linux, CERTAINLY the Germans can! You know, appeal to their national pride! Seriously, though, I've tried a couple of different isp in Austria, and I have experienced EXACTLY the same problem as you from time to time. With one isp, it happened so often (95% of the time) that I changed -- and at that time I was using Windoze and the dial-up software provided by the isp itself. With my new provider, it still occurs from time to time -- both when I was using Win98 and now with Linux. My solution is to log off and dial up again. It seems to be worst just after the connection rates go down (e.g., 1815), so I think it has to do with traffic. When I notice that the emails are downloading so slowly, I check the transmission. When it's bad, I cancel, log off, and dial back up. Often I will get a normal speed (for me usually 5+K/sec) and then things work fine. It seems to me that when the transfer is SO slow as you are describing, you aren't kicked off, rather, something more similar to the connection timing out happens -- so little data is transferred that the connection is simply lost. By the way, when I downloaded Star Office, I was having one of those bad connection days with my provider. I found that the download actually stopped if I didn't move my mouse every couple of minutes. So, instead of starting the download and going to watch a movie, I had to sit in front of the computer for 4 hours moving the mouse every couple of minutes. Don't know if that problem is related, but you might keep your eyes out when doing a big download. Lance Joerg Reinhardt wrote: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doellbachstraße 15 34127 Kassel Joerg Reinhardt Hi, I'm using the german telecom to come into the net. Datastream-speed is something about 1.5K/sec, even less most of the time and they do throw me out the net, from Time to time (especially in very long Downloads...) I complaint about this redicoulous speed of data-transfer (56,7K baud Modem should bring more, I guess, and sometimes it does(up to 5.0), but only for seconds or minutes) and about been thrown out the connection after 3h 58min downloading Starsoft (now I have 98% of it, but nothing worth at all). While complaining, they stayed polite and helpfull till the point I mentioned my system is running on Linux! After their opinion, Linux is some non-professional freaky-stuff, and so every PROBLEM (even the speed of incomming data) is MY PROBLEM!!! Can anyone give me a few good arguments for those F-'s, to tell them that it is NOT MY problem!! (Modem is working great, so it is not mv Problem, or Is it) They denied, that it can happen, that their System throws someone out. They say their is no command for doing it, so I wonder what kind of command they are sending me, when I try to dialup with wrong password. I tryed, just to see and it was identically (checked it with the ppd-monitor) to that, what I received when I was thrown out at this download. I also asked for a second ISP-Adress, cause I guess having only one is what causes the trouble, they told me their can be only one ISP-Adress per domain (propably what they mean is, that their is box in the menue, of THEIR-Internet-entry-windoze-software-CDRom, to put a second address in, but what do I care? their is space for two more Adresses in my default-route-setup and even Telnet gave me two!) My problem is, I'm not a computer expert and if one's questions or mails are not cryptically enought written in experts terms, telecom just ignores them and do send an answer like (If your Internet isn't working properly, check if plug is in!) What to do? Change the Provider? Are the others really faster? Is their anything what telecom could do for solving my problem (cause that would be the easiest way for me, otherwise I got to skip the contract. If I could tell them where THEIR problem is, they couldn't ignore me longer and might solve it instead). Anyone experienced with telecom that way? Joerg
