Re: [newbie] 10 and 10.1 mouse driver
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:30:17 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 16 September 2004 11:18 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote: Hello list Recently my test box in 10.0 Official noted new hardware on boot. With vast stupidity, I followed along and it changed my mouse driver. The mouse hiccups and goes into fits when I kvm to another box and back. I saw it as an opportunity and reformatted, then installed the new 10.1. It does the same thing. I swapped the kvm outputs with another box to make sure it was not a hardware problem (Belkin Omni-view with perfect track record). It is most definitely a mdk thing. Anyone have a suggestion or experiencing the same problem? I have not had satisfactory performance since 9.2 and, frankly, I'm growing weary. Lee Lee, is the mouse a usb mouse? No matter, go to the MCC console and check on hardware and then mouse and redo it as a usb or PS/2mouse. And it should be OK, I have had no problems with my logitech optical scroll wheel mouse. HTH-- Dennis M. linux user #180842 It's a PS2 mouse and works with 4 other boxes without failure. And I've done the mcc thing, both from console and gui. Also doesn't help to logout and startx again. Still rendered worthless or worse with jumping about. Hope 9.2 is still on the mirrors. I foolishly assumed 10 and 10.1 were upgrades and trashed my iso's. Thanks for the help, though. Lee -- My new address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Current address will not work after December. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 and 10.1 mouse driver
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:58:23 +1000 Stephen Kühn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 03:32, Lee Wiggers wrote: Every time I was done in it was an upgrade and that occurs regularly. Upgrade and your sound doesn't work anymore. Upgrade and your burner doesn't work anymore. Upgrade and your ears turn green. In other words upgrade means fsk-up as much as it means improves. As I've found out (testing on several different boxen) it is always much better to do a clean installation than to do an upgrade; we had heaps of video/mouse/keyboard/sound problems with doing upgrades - so from now on it's purely clean installations...(that also goes for RedHat) -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Life is a serious burden, which no thinking, humane person would wantonly inflict on someone else. -- Clarence Darrow These were both clean installs on reformatted xfs, as I've always done. Upgrade in the sense that 10 should be better than 9. Lee -- My new address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Current address will not work after December. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 and 10.1 mouse driver
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:58:23 +1000 Stephen Kühn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 03:32, Lee Wiggers wrote: Every time I was done in it was an upgrade and that occurs regularly. Upgrade and your sound doesn't work anymore. Upgrade and your burner doesn't work anymore. Upgrade and your ears turn green. In other words upgrade means fsk-up as much as it means improves. As I've found out (testing on several different boxen) it is always much better to do a clean installation than to do an upgrade; we had heaps of video/mouse/keyboard/sound problems with doing upgrades - so from now on it's purely clean installations...(that also goes for RedHat) -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Life is a serious burden, which no thinking, humane person would wantonly inflict on someone else. -- Clarence Darrow Anyway, you don't have to upgrade or fresh install to screw something up. All you have to do is update regularly. What a crock. Lee -- My new address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Current address will not work after December. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 and 10.1 mouse driver
On Saturday 18 September 2004 02:08 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: Lee, is the mouse a usb mouse? No matter, go to the MCC console and check on hardware and then mouse and redo it as a usb or PS/2mouse. And it should be OK, I have had no problems with my logitech optical scroll wheel mouse. HTH-- Dennis M. linux user #180842 It's a PS2 mouse and works with 4 other boxes without failure. And I've done the mcc thing, both from console and gui. Also doesn't help to logout and startx again. Still rendered worthless or worse with jumping about. Could you post the input devices section of your '/etc/X11/XF86Config' file -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10 and 10.1 mouse driver
Hello list Recently my test box in 10.0 Official noted new hardware on boot. With vast stupidity, I followed along and it changed my mouse driver. The mouse hiccups and goes into fits when I kvm to another box and back. I saw it as an opportunity and reformatted, then installed the new 10.1. It does the same thing. I swapped the kvm outputs with another box to make sure it was not a hardware problem (Belkin Omni-view with perfect track record). It is most definitely a mdk thing. Anyone have a suggestion or experiencing the same problem? I have not had satisfactory performance since 9.2 and, frankly, I'm growing weary. Lee -- My new address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Current address will not work after December. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 and 10.1 mouse driver
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 04:18:09 +, Lee Wiggers wrote Hello list Recently my test box in 10.0 Official noted new hardware on boot. With vast stupidity, I followed along and it changed my mouse driver. The mouse hiccups and goes into fits when I kvm to another box and back. I saw it as an opportunity and reformatted, then installed the new 10.1. It does the same thing. I swapped the kvm outputs with another box to make sure it was not a hardware problem (Belkin Omni-view with perfect track record). It is most definitely a mdk thing. Anyone have a suggestion or experiencing the same problem? I have not had satisfactory performance since 9.2 and, frankly, I'm growing weary. My mouse kvm problems usually end with a switch to a USB keyboard and mouse (KVM with USB connections). Different Kernel versions just seem to have some aversion to mice on KVM switches. IMHO it's entirely an Linux Kernel bug that should have been put to rest a long time ago. My final solution was an inexpensive PS2-to-USB adapter cable to make all my keyboard/mouse problems USB problems. Seems USB mice just don't suffer from the same confusion. Scott -- Nothing goes to waste when Little Fish are near! (http://www.littlefish.ca) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 and 10.1 mouse driver
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:27:36 -0600 Scott Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 04:18:09 +, Lee Wiggers wrote Hello list Recently my test box in 10.0 Official noted new hardware on boot. With vast stupidity, I followed along and it changed my mouse driver. The mouse hiccups and goes into fits when I kvm to another box and back. I saw it as an opportunity and reformatted, then installed the new 10.1. It does the same thing. I swapped the kvm outputs with another box to make sure it was not a hardware problem (Belkin Omni-view with perfect track record). It is most definitely a mdk thing. Anyone have a suggestion or experiencing the same problem? I have not had satisfactory performance since 9.2 and, frankly, I'm growing weary. My mouse kvm problems usually end with a switch to a USB keyboard and mouse (KVM with USB connections). Different Kernel versions just seem to have some aversion to mice on KVM switches. IMHO it's entirely an Linux Kernel bug that should have been put to rest a long time ago. My final solution was an inexpensive PS2-to-USB adapter cable to make all my keyboard/mouse problems USB problems. Seems USB mice just don't suffer from the same confusion. Scott -- Nothing goes to waste when Little Fish are near! (http://www.littlefish.ca) rant Let me tell you what pisses me off. I have been using the same mouse, same keyboard, and same chair since 7.2. They have all worked fine with Generic Wheelmouse until now. And never did the distro detect new hardware and do me in. Every time I was done in it was an upgrade and that occurs regularly. Upgrade and your sound doesn't work anymore. Upgrade and your burner doesn't work anymore. Upgrade and your ears turn green. In other words upgrade means fsk-up as much as it means improves. I'm sick of it. I burn with Nero on a 2k box. I listen to oggs and mp3s with Winamp on a 2k box. It works...always...period. I keep my files, connect with the net, and serve my site on the mdk 9.2 box. That's all important, but pretty basic crap for a hot shot super distro like mdk. /rant Call me a troll if you wish, but I've tried hard to swallow this shiet. How is a beginner supposed to embrace this crap? The current wheelmouse is a Logitech, BTW, and I was wrong about it living through all. Previous was a Microslop wheelmouse. When I bought the Logitech, I plugged it in and it worked in place of the other. Now it does not, because 10.1 detected a change two years later, I suppose? Let me also say that I can probably fix it by identifying the driver on the 9.2 box and forcing it on the 10.1 box, but why do I have to do this? Is this a computer operating system or a frustration generator? I can listen to my wife and get frustrated, although I'll admit mdk works faster. Lee -- My new address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Current address will not work after December. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 and 10.1 mouse driver
Lee Wiggers wrote: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:27:36 -0600 Scott Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 04:18:09 +, Lee Wiggers wrote Hello list Recently my test box in 10.0 Official noted new hardware on boot. With vast stupidity, I followed along and it changed my mouse driver. The mouse hiccups and goes into fits when I kvm to another box and back. I saw it as an opportunity and reformatted, then installed the new 10.1. It does the same thing. I swapped the kvm outputs with another box to make sure it was not a hardware problem (Belkin Omni-view with perfect track record). It is most definitely a mdk thing. Anyone have a suggestion or experiencing the same problem? I have not had satisfactory performance since 9.2 and, frankly, I'm growing weary. My mouse kvm problems usually end with a switch to a USB keyboard and mouse (KVM with USB connections). Different Kernel versions just seem to have some aversion to mice on KVM switches. IMHO it's entirely an Linux Kernel bug that should have been put to rest a long time ago. My final solution was an inexpensive PS2-to-USB adapter cable to make all my keyboard/mouse problems USB problems. Seems USB mice just don't suffer from the same confusion. Scott -- Nothing goes to waste when Little Fish are near! (http://www.littlefish.ca) rant Let me tell you what pisses me off. I have been using the same mouse, same keyboard, and same chair since 7.2. They have all worked fine with Generic Wheelmouse until now. And never did the distro detect new hardware and do me in. Every time I was done in it was an upgrade and that occurs regularly. Upgrade and your sound doesn't work anymore. Upgrade and your burner doesn't work anymore. Upgrade and your ears turn green. In other words upgrade means fsk-up as much as it means improves. I'm sick of it. I burn with Nero on a 2k box. I listen to oggs and mp3s with Winamp on a 2k box. It works...always...period. I keep my files, connect with the net, and serve my site on the mdk 9.2 box. That's all important, but pretty basic crap for a hot shot super distro like mdk. /rant Call me a troll if you wish, but I've tried hard to swallow this shiet. How is a beginner supposed to embrace this crap? The current wheelmouse is a Logitech, BTW, and I was wrong about it living through all. Previous was a Microslop wheelmouse. When I bought the Logitech, I plugged it in and it worked in place of the other. Now it does not, because 10.1 detected a change two years later, I suppose? Let me also say that I can probably fix it by identifying the driver on the 9.2 box and forcing it on the 10.1 box, but why do I have to do this? Is this a computer operating system or a frustration generator? I can listen to my wife and get frustrated, although I'll admit mdk works faster. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com AMEN! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 and 10.1 mouse driver
On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 03:32, Lee Wiggers wrote: Every time I was done in it was an upgrade and that occurs regularly. Upgrade and your sound doesn't work anymore. Upgrade and your burner doesn't work anymore. Upgrade and your ears turn green. In other words upgrade means fsk-up as much as it means improves. As I've found out (testing on several different boxen) it is always much better to do a clean installation than to do an upgrade; we had heaps of video/mouse/keyboard/sound problems with doing upgrades - so from now on it's purely clean installations...(that also goes for RedHat) -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Life is a serious burden, which no thinking, humane person would wantonly inflict on someone else. -- Clarence Darrow Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
