Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-21 Thread Ribbo

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote:

It depends. Specially if like me, you have ReiserFS.  

i gave up reiserfs, i know it fast and saving hardisk spaces but i got
too many error on it, maybe i failed on something i dont know
(2.2.17+reiserfs-3.6.24-patch)

 I prefer 
 Mandrake kernels because they're already patched to support Mandrake 
 specific features.  I've never seen any performance increase with 
 custom compiled kernels either. 

i edit the Makefile and change the CFLAGS for P2 
(-O9 -funroll-loops -ffast-math .etc). and also edit the
extraversion a little, and only choose the modules that i really use.
thats the reason why i compiled my kernel


-- 
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-- Klesk, Quake III Arena.




SV: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-21 Thread Blomquist, Niklas

I have test to install the new kernel with the 2.4.5-5mdkrypto rpm, but I've
got error:
error: failed dependencies:
kernel = 2.3 conflicts with kdeaddutils-2.0-3.mdk

Any suggestions?

/Nik

 -Ursprungligt meddelande-
 Frn: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Skickat: den 21 januari 2001 00:06
 Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mne: Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
 
 
 On Saturday 20 January 2001 01:04 pm, DJW wrote:
  As I installed Linux to learn it, I would like to try and 
 install the
  new 2.4 kernel everyone is talking about.  My question is, 
 where do I
  get it.  In other words, is there a special Mandrake 2.4 kernel I
  should compile and use, or will any 2.4 kernel do?
  I see there are several sources available to download from.
  Thanks in advance,
  Don
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
It depends. Specially if like me, you have ReiserFS.  I prefer 
 Mandrake kernels because they're already patched to support Mandrake 
 specific features.  I've never seen any performance increase with 
 custom compiled kernels either. Mandrake prebuilts are just as good, 
 just as fast. Still I've tried many 2.4.0's from source and prebuilt, 
 Mandrake and otherwise.  They all boot fine and everything works ... 
 except supermount. I've heard on the cooker list that 2.4.1-pre9 will 
 work with a supermount-0.5.3-2.4.1-pre9.gz patch, and all 2.4.1-pre8 
 and higher support ReiserFS.  Mandrake kernels have supported 
 Rfs for a 
 long time, vanilla source 2.4.0 kernels will if patched.  
 
 I'd suggest you try a Mandrake prebuilt. It installs to it's own 
 dir in /usr/src/, and completely sets itself up, lilo changes 
 included, 
 and doesn't interfere in any way with other kernel files. It 
 will be an 
 option when you reboot, your current default will be 
 unchanged. Latest 
 is   kernel-2.4.0-5mdk.i586.rpm   on any cooker mirror.  Last one I 
 tried is -4mdk, and it correctly set itself up in lilo.conf 
 except for 
 adding my ide-scsi append statement.  So check lilo.conf before you 
 reboot.
 -- 
 Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
 




[newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-20 Thread DJW

Ok, my system is up and running just fine (M7.2), cd burner works, dsl
works, and life is good.  So I am going to once again throw my
Grandfathers advice out the window (if it's not broken, don't fix it) 
:-)

As I installed Linux to learn it, I would like to try and install the
new 2.4 kernel everyone is talking about.  My question is, where do I
get it.  In other words, is there a special Mandrake 2.4 kernel I should
compile and use, or will any 2.4 kernel do?
I see there are several sources available to download from.
Thanks in advance,
Don 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-20 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Saturday 20 January 2001 01:04 pm, DJW wrote:
 As I installed Linux to learn it, I would like to try and install the
 new 2.4 kernel everyone is talking about.  My question is, where do I
 get it.  In other words, is there a special Mandrake 2.4 kernel I
 should compile and use, or will any 2.4 kernel do?
 I see there are several sources available to download from.
 Thanks in advance,
 Don
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   It depends. Specially if like me, you have ReiserFS.  I prefer 
Mandrake kernels because they're already patched to support Mandrake 
specific features.  I've never seen any performance increase with 
custom compiled kernels either. Mandrake prebuilts are just as good, 
just as fast. Still I've tried many 2.4.0's from source and prebuilt, 
Mandrake and otherwise.  They all boot fine and everything works ... 
except supermount. I've heard on the cooker list that 2.4.1-pre9 will 
work with a supermount-0.5.3-2.4.1-pre9.gz patch, and all 2.4.1-pre8 
and higher support ReiserFS.  Mandrake kernels have supported Rfs for a 
long time, vanilla source 2.4.0 kernels will if patched.  

I'd suggest you try a Mandrake prebuilt. It installs to it's own 
dir in /usr/src/, and completely sets itself up, lilo changes included, 
and doesn't interfere in any way with other kernel files. It will be an 
option when you reboot, your current default will be unchanged. Latest 
is   kernel-2.4.0-5mdk.i586.rpm   on any cooker mirror.  Last one I 
tried is -4mdk, and it correctly set itself up in lilo.conf except for 
adding my ide-scsi append statement.  So check lilo.conf before you 
reboot.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-20 Thread DJW

Thanks, I'll give it a try.
Don
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Brinkman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel


 On Saturday 20 January 2001 01:04 pm, DJW wrote:
  As I installed Linux to learn it, I would like to try and install the
  new 2.4 kernel everyone is talking about.  My question is, where do I
  get it.  In other words, is there a special Mandrake 2.4 kernel I
  should compile and use, or will any 2.4 kernel do?
  I see there are several sources available to download from.
  Thanks in advance,
  Don
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
It depends. Specially if like me, you have ReiserFS.  I prefer 
 Mandrake kernels because they're already patched to support Mandrake 
 specific features.  I've never seen any performance increase with 
 custom compiled kernels either. Mandrake prebuilts are just as good, 
 just as fast. Still I've tried many 2.4.0's from source and prebuilt, 
 Mandrake and otherwise.  They all boot fine and everything works ... 
 except supermount. I've heard on the cooker list that 2.4.1-pre9 will 
 work with a supermount-0.5.3-2.4.1-pre9.gz patch, and all 2.4.1-pre8 
 and higher support ReiserFS.  Mandrake kernels have supported Rfs for a 
 long time, vanilla source 2.4.0 kernels will if patched.  
 
 I'd suggest you try a Mandrake prebuilt. It installs to it's own 
 dir in /usr/src/, and completely sets itself up, lilo changes included, 
 and doesn't interfere in any way with other kernel files. It will be an 
 option when you reboot, your current default will be unchanged. Latest 
 is   kernel-2.4.0-5mdk.i586.rpm   on any cooker mirror.  Last one I 
 tried is -4mdk, and it correctly set itself up in lilo.conf except for 
 adding my ide-scsi append statement.  So check lilo.conf before you 
 reboot.
 -- 
 Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
 





Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-15 Thread Altoine Barker

Sorry to hear the bad news with your compile. Mine was flawless. Slow and steady but 
flawless, nonetheless. I researched and read while going through my compile. If you 
could give me an idea of your hardware specs I can probably provide some insight, bro. 
I don't use PMfirewall but if I did, I would expect it to break. The price to pay for 
working with static binaries better known as tarballs. That is what RPMs so beautiful, 
they are dynamic thus flex and readjust mostly to changes as greatly as this.

Cheers
-- Al


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Had the same problem with the boot up errors about the vfat and I had 
 compiled it in.  I can still access my windows partition tho.  
 
 I had to recompile so as to add the sound support as modules instead of 
 compiled in so sndconfig would work.  
 
 What's up with the power management?  The help says even if you don't choose 
 it, it's installed anyway?  Now I'm back to the blank screen after a half 
 hour instead of my screensaver (which I prefer!).
 
 How do I get my neato graphical boot up?  I miss the happy (well sometimes 
 sad) penguin!  (aurora still checked in startup under drakconf).
 
 Pmfirewall broke.  Need I say more?  I didn't use the new ipchains 
 replacement (whatever it was called) during compile.  Should I have?
 
 No midi supported.  I must have missed something when choosing sound modules 
 (though I check everything remotely similiar to my current drivers and 
 modules).  
 
 What's the cure for the supermount?  I thought I had read one back before I 
 tried the new kernel out and now I can't find it.  I did choose auto mount in 
 the compile, but I really think that had more to do with nfs.
 
 Enough for now.
 
 TIA,
 -s
 
 
 On Friday 12 January 2001 05:57 pm, you wrote:
  Well, part of my problems is that the SCSI card drivers and sound card
  drivers are not part of the standard linux-mandrake distribution, so I had
  to download drivers to work with Mandrake 7.2 out of the box.  When I tried
  to use the source or binaries from the 2.2.17 based drivers, they didn't
  work under 2.4, so at the least I need to recompile them or download new
  sources.
 
  One thing that I did notice, was that some of the options that I expected
  to be turned "on" by default were turned "off" this time (The last kernel I
  compiled was 2.2.16).  Things like the VFAT support.  make sure you go
  through whatever configuration tool you use carefully for differences.
 
  Thanks,
  -Kevin
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Michael, Steve" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:20 AM
  Subject: RE: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
 
   Not to bash the 2.4 upgrade, but it didn't sound like it went all that
 
  well
 
   for you.  I don't think a newbie could have done what you have done, that
   is, without some serious help.  Hopefully the upgrades will get better
 
  over
 
   time.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Kevin Tambascio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 9:37 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
  
  
   Hi,
  
   Have any of your tried the 2.4 kernel yet?  I tried to install and
   compile it last night, and had some success.  I was able to reboot into
   the new kernel, but I had some error messages about loading FAT
   partitions, turned out I hadn't built in the VFAT into the kernel or
   module.  I couldn't get
 
  my
 
   USB scanner (EPSON Perfection 610) working right away, I have to figure
 
  out
 
   what is happening.  I was able to get my scanner working sometimes with
   2.2.17.  My SCSI card needs a new driver (Tekram 315), and I need to d/l
   a 2.4 based Vortex 1 driver.  My Ethernet card was not immediately
   working.
 
  I
 
   had to reselect in DrakConf that I needed the Tulip driver.  After that,
 
  an
 
   insmod tulip, ifup eth was all I needed to get it working.  Other than
 
  those
 
   things, KDE came up OK, and nothing else unusual was apparent.
  
   Would any other users care to share their experience so far?
  
   -Kevin
 
 
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re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-15 Thread Altoine Barker

Special note. I forgot to mention that I use Bastille for my firewall. It flexed to my 
kernel change. I have to make some changes to make an opening for dialpad.com but 
other than that, it is still there.

Cheers
-- Al


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry to hear the bad news with your compile. Mine was flawless. Slow and 
 steady but flawless, nonetheless. I researched and read while going through 
 my compile. If you could give me an idea of your hardware specs I can 
 probably provide some insight, bro. I don't use PMfirewall but if I did, I 
 would expect it to break. The price to pay for working with static binaries 
 better known as tarballs. That is what RPMs so beautiful, they are dynamic 
 thus flex and readjust mostly to changes as greatly as this.
 
 Cheers
 -- Al
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Had the same problem with the boot up errors about the vfat and I had 
  compiled it in.  I can still access my windows partition tho.  
  
  I had to recompile so as to add the sound support as modules instead of 
  compiled in so sndconfig would work.  
  
  What's up with the power management?  The help says even if you don't 
 choose 
  it, it's installed anyway?  Now I'm back to the blank screen after a half 
  hour instead of my screensaver (which I prefer!).
  
  How do I get my neato graphical boot up?  I miss the happy (well sometimes 
  sad) penguin!  (aurora still checked in startup under drakconf).
  
  Pmfirewall broke.  Need I say more?  I didn't use the new ipchains 
  replacement (whatever it was called) during compile.  Should I have?
  
  No midi supported.  I must have missed something when choosing sound 
 modules 
  (though I check everything remotely similiar to my current drivers and 
  modules).  
  
  What's the cure for the supermount?  I thought I had read one back before I 
  tried the new kernel out and now I can't find it.  I did choose auto mount 
 in 
  the compile, but I really think that had more to do with nfs.
  
  Enough for now.
  
  TIA,
  -s
  
  
  On Friday 12 January 2001 05:57 pm, you wrote:
   Well, part of my problems is that the SCSI card drivers and sound card
   drivers are not part of the standard linux-mandrake distribution, so I had
   to download drivers to work with Mandrake 7.2 out of the box.  When I 
 tried
   to use the source or binaries from the 2.2.17 based drivers, they didn't
   work under 2.4, so at the least I need to recompile them or download new
   sources.
  
   One thing that I did notice, was that some of the options that I expected
   to be turned "on" by default were turned "off" this time (The last kernel 
 I
   compiled was 2.2.16).  Things like the VFAT support.  make sure you go
   through whatever configuration tool you use carefully for differences.
  
   Thanks,
   -Kevin
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Michael, Steve" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:20 AM
   Subject: RE: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
  
Not to bash the 2.4 upgrade, but it didn't sound like it went all that
  
   well
  
for you.  I don't think a newbie could have done what you have done, 
 that
is, without some serious help.  Hopefully the upgrades will get better
  
   over
  
time.
   
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Tambascio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Subject: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
   
   
Hi,
   
Have any of your tried the 2.4 kernel yet?  I tried to install and
compile it last night, and had some success.  I was able to reboot into
the new kernel, but I had some error messages about loading FAT
partitions, turned out I hadn't built in the VFAT into the kernel or
module.  I couldn't get
  
   my
  
USB scanner (EPSON Perfection 610) working right away, I have to figure
  
   out
  
what is happening.  I was able to get my scanner working sometimes with
2.2.17.  My SCSI card needs a new driver (Tekram 315), and I need to d/l
a 2.4 based Vortex 1 driver.  My Ethernet card was not immediately
working.
  
   I
  
had to reselect in DrakConf that I needed the Tulip driver.  After that,
  
   an
  
insmod tulip, ifup eth was all I needed to get it working.  Other than
  
   those
  
things, KDE came up OK, and nothing else unusual was apparent.
   
Would any other users care to share their experience so far?
   
-Kevin
  
  
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re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-15 Thread John Rye


On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 05:46:07 -0500, Altoine Barker said:

   Special note. I forgot to mention that I use Bastille for my firewall.
   It flexed to my kernel change. I have to make some changes to make an 
   opening for dialpad.com but other than that, it is still there.

Altione,

Are you able to give a shortish comparison between Bastille and other
firewalling scripts?

Send direct if you wish

Cheers

John

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Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-15 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Sunday 14 January 2001 07:42 pm, s wrote:
 Had the same problem with the boot up errors about the vfat and I had
 compiled it in.  I can still access my windows partition tho.

Vfat/dos support hasn't been a default in any of the 2.4's I've 
compiled, you have to select it during make (x)config.

 How do I get my neato graphical boot up?  I miss the happy (well
 sometimes sad) penguin!  (aurora still checked in startup under
 drakconf).

  lilo needs to have the 'vga=xxx' line added to the 2.4 section, then 
run lilo

 Pmfirewall broke.  Need I say more?  I didn't use the new ipchains
 replacement (whatever it was called) during compile.  Should I have?

It's called iptables.  You can select support for 2.2.x/ipchains 
during make config.

 What's the cure for the supermount?  I thought I had read one back
 before I tried the new kernel out and now I can't find it.  I did
 choose auto mount in the compile, but I really think that had more to
 do with nfs.

   Dunno, I've tried several 2.4's both ready made and compiled from 
source.  If I manage to get supermount in the kernel, I get a kernel 
panic on boot.  I was thinking it was a problem with ReiserFs 
compatibility (?)
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-15 Thread s

Using 2.4.0 that was released on the 5th available from kernel.org.  No test 
number or anything.   Actually, all that trouble was on my 'test' machine.  I 
installed 2.4.0 on my 'main' machine last night and all went fine.  No errors 
on start up.  PMfirewall still working (apparently had make a bad choice in 
xconfig with the other one).  Sound and modem automagically configured (had 
to run sndconfig  setserial on test machine).  Don't know about the apm yet. 
Been on my machine every since.

If I put vga=788 in lilo (as it was previously), my screen goes blank after 
the .booting kernel ok.  But if I change it to vga=normal, its loads in 
the old fashioned text like manner with the green [ok]s.  No biggie there.  
Can live with it.

I must still mount floppies,  mount and umount cdroms.  Still no biggie 
really.  *But my ide zip doesn't work now.  When trying to mount I get an 
error about it not being a valid block device and unable to open /dev/zip. 
(Biggie here.)*  It will eject tho.

Still can't get nvidia drivers loaded.  It complains about it being the wrong 
kernel now!  (Previous problems with i815 mobo and agpgart support).  Still 
have to wait some more I guess.

Oh well, all in all I'm quite happy with the way it went.  Maybe I'll do the 
little machine just for the fun of it.  

-s


On Monday 15 January 2001 10:35 am, you wrote:
 Sorry to hear the bad news with your compile. Mine was flawless. Slow and
 steady but flawless, nonetheless. I researched and read while going through
 my compile. If you could give me an idea of your hardware specs I can
 probably provide some insight, bro. I don't use PMfirewall but if I did, I
 would expect it to break. The price to pay for working with static binaries
 better known as tarballs. That is what RPMs so beautiful, they are dynamic
 thus flex and readjust mostly to changes as greatly as this.

 Cheers
 -- Al





Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-15 Thread s

On Monday 15 January 2001 11:44 am, you wrote:
 On Sunday 14 January 2001 07:42 pm, s wrote:
  Had the same problem with the boot up errors about the vfat and I had
  compiled it in.  I can still access my windows partition tho.

 Vfat/dos support hasn't been a default in any of the 2.4's I've
 compiled, you have to select it during make (x)config.

I did choose it.  ?  (Well, it went fine on my main computer.  That was just 
a practice run on a test machine there.)


  How do I get my neato graphical boot up?  I miss the happy (well
  sometimes sad) penguin!  (aurora still checked in startup under
  drakconf).

   lilo needs to have the 'vga=xxx' line added to the 2.4 section, then
 run lilo

If I have that, it won't boot.  I have to put vga=normal.  No biggie.  (Maybe 
if I try a lower number? It was 788.)


  Pmfirewall broke.  Need I say more?  I didn't use the new ipchains
  replacement (whatever it was called) during compile.  Should I have?

 It's called iptables.  You can select support for 2.2.x/ipchains
 during make config.

Yep, found that now.  Thanks.  It's working now.  


  What's the cure for the supermount?  I thought I had read one back
  before I tried the new kernel out and now I can't find it.  I did
  choose auto mount in the compile, but I really think that had more to
  do with nfs.

Dunno, I've tried several 2.4's both ready made and compiled from
 source.  If I manage to get supermount in the kernel, I get a kernel
 panic on boot.  I was thinking it was a problem with ReiserFs
 compatibility (?)

Don't use that.  ?  

-s






Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-14 Thread s

Had the same problem with the boot up errors about the vfat and I had 
compiled it in.  I can still access my windows partition tho.  

I had to recompile so as to add the sound support as modules instead of 
compiled in so sndconfig would work.  

What's up with the power management?  The help says even if you don't choose 
it, it's installed anyway?  Now I'm back to the blank screen after a half 
hour instead of my screensaver (which I prefer!).

How do I get my neato graphical boot up?  I miss the happy (well sometimes 
sad) penguin!  (aurora still checked in startup under drakconf).

Pmfirewall broke.  Need I say more?  I didn't use the new ipchains 
replacement (whatever it was called) during compile.  Should I have?

No midi supported.  I must have missed something when choosing sound modules 
(though I check everything remotely similiar to my current drivers and 
modules).  

What's the cure for the supermount?  I thought I had read one back before I 
tried the new kernel out and now I can't find it.  I did choose auto mount in 
the compile, but I really think that had more to do with nfs.

Enough for now.

TIA,
-s


On Friday 12 January 2001 05:57 pm, you wrote:
 Well, part of my problems is that the SCSI card drivers and sound card
 drivers are not part of the standard linux-mandrake distribution, so I had
 to download drivers to work with Mandrake 7.2 out of the box.  When I tried
 to use the source or binaries from the 2.2.17 based drivers, they didn't
 work under 2.4, so at the least I need to recompile them or download new
 sources.

 One thing that I did notice, was that some of the options that I expected
 to be turned "on" by default were turned "off" this time (The last kernel I
 compiled was 2.2.16).  Things like the VFAT support.  make sure you go
 through whatever configuration tool you use carefully for differences.

 Thanks,
 -Kevin


 - Original Message -
 From: "Michael, Steve" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:20 AM
 Subject: RE: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

  Not to bash the 2.4 upgrade, but it didn't sound like it went all that

 well

  for you.  I don't think a newbie could have done what you have done, that
  is, without some serious help.  Hopefully the upgrades will get better

 over

  time.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Tambascio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 9:37 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Have any of your tried the 2.4 kernel yet?  I tried to install and
  compile it last night, and had some success.  I was able to reboot into
  the new kernel, but I had some error messages about loading FAT
  partitions, turned out I hadn't built in the VFAT into the kernel or
  module.  I couldn't get

 my

  USB scanner (EPSON Perfection 610) working right away, I have to figure

 out

  what is happening.  I was able to get my scanner working sometimes with
  2.2.17.  My SCSI card needs a new driver (Tekram 315), and I need to d/l
  a 2.4 based Vortex 1 driver.  My Ethernet card was not immediately
  working.

 I

  had to reselect in DrakConf that I needed the Tulip driver.  After that,

 an

  insmod tulip, ifup eth was all I needed to get it working.  Other than

 those

  things, KDE came up OK, and nothing else unusual was apparent.
 
  Would any other users care to share their experience so far?
 
  -Kevin




RE: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-12 Thread Michael, Steve

Not to bash the 2.4 upgrade, but it didn't sound like it went all that well
for you.  I don't think a newbie could have done what you have done, that
is, without some serious help.  Hopefully the upgrades will get better over
time.  

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Tambascio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel


Hi,

Have any of your tried the 2.4 kernel yet?  I tried to install and compile
it last night, and had some success.  I was able to reboot into the new
kernel, but I had some error messages about loading FAT partitions, turned
out I hadn't built in the VFAT into the kernel or module.  I couldn't get my
USB scanner (EPSON Perfection 610) working right away, I have to figure out
what is happening.  I was able to get my scanner working sometimes with
2.2.17.  My SCSI card needs a new driver (Tekram 315), and I need to d/l a
2.4 based Vortex 1 driver.  My Ethernet card was not immediately working.  I
had to reselect in DrakConf that I needed the Tulip driver.  After that, an
insmod tulip, ifup eth was all I needed to get it working.  Other than those
things, KDE came up OK, and nothing else unusual was apparent.

Would any other users care to share their experience so far?

-Kevin





Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-12 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Friday 12 January 2001 08:36 am, Kevin Tambascio wrote:
 Have any of your tried the 2.4 kernel yet? 

I've tried several over the past few months.  They're get'n better, 
either that or I am ;)  'Course my usual formula is to have a few beers 
and then decide to give 2.4.x another try  ;  I've always been able to 
boot them, but with mixed levels of success running them.  Last try
was last night with kernel-source-2.4.0-2mdk.  It's all there in the 
config, no patches needed .. ppp_generic, ppp_async, ppp_deflate to get 
dialup going, ReiserFS support, and supermount, all built-in rather 
than as modules. Stuff like Vfat I also build in, and enable legacy 
support for ipchains so I don't have to redo firewall and portsentry.
Size has been almost 100k bigger than my 2.2.x kernels at 750k. I could 
trim that down tho.

   I can get a flawless 2.4 going, but not with supermount working ;(  
'supermount -i enable' is ignored, with supermount either built in or 
as a module.  If I force the situation by putting in a saved supermount 
'fstab', then I get a kernel panic on re-boot. I suspect it's a 
supermount/ReiserFS deal. I haven't fooled with tryin to fix it very 
much tho, I just get frustrated and reboot 2.2.18 ;)  

While running 2.4.x, about the only thing I've noticed is a very 
slight improvement in system response, slightly quicker loading.  2.4's 
memory management is said to be improved.  My hdparm checks on HDD's 
were no change from 2.2.x.  I don't have anything that needs 2.4. I 
just try it out of curiosity.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

 I tried to install and
 compile it last night, and had some success.  I was able to reboot
 into the new kernel, but I had some error messages about loading FAT
 partitions, turned out I hadn't built in the VFAT into the kernel or
 module.  I couldn't get my USB scanner (EPSON Perfection 610) working
 right away, I have to figure out what is happening.  I was able to
 get my scanner working sometimes with 2.2.17.  My SCSI card needs a
 new driver (Tekram 315), and I need to d/l a 2.4 based Vortex 1
 driver.  My Ethernet card was not immediately working.  I had to
 reselect in DrakConf that I needed the Tulip driver.  After that, an
 insmod tulip, ifup eth was all I needed to get it working.  Other
 than those things, KDE came up OK, and nothing else unusual was
 apparent.

 Would any other users care to share their experience so far?

 -Kevin





Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

2001-01-12 Thread Kevin Tambascio

Well, part of my problems is that the SCSI card drivers and sound card
drivers are not part of the standard linux-mandrake distribution, so I had
to download drivers to work with Mandrake 7.2 out of the box.  When I tried
to use the source or binaries from the 2.2.17 based drivers, they didn't
work under 2.4, so at the least I need to recompile them or download new
sources.

One thing that I did notice, was that some of the options that I expected to
be turned "on" by default were turned "off" this time (The last kernel I
compiled was 2.2.16).  Things like the VFAT support.  make sure you go
through whatever configuration tool you use carefully for differences.

Thanks,
-Kevin


- Original Message -
From: "Michael, Steve" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel


 Not to bash the 2.4 upgrade, but it didn't sound like it went all that
well
 for you.  I don't think a newbie could have done what you have done, that
 is, without some serious help.  Hopefully the upgrades will get better
over
 time.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Tambascio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 9:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel


 Hi,

 Have any of your tried the 2.4 kernel yet?  I tried to install and compile
 it last night, and had some success.  I was able to reboot into the new
 kernel, but I had some error messages about loading FAT partitions, turned
 out I hadn't built in the VFAT into the kernel or module.  I couldn't get
my
 USB scanner (EPSON Perfection 610) working right away, I have to figure
out
 what is happening.  I was able to get my scanner working sometimes with
 2.2.17.  My SCSI card needs a new driver (Tekram 315), and I need to d/l a
 2.4 based Vortex 1 driver.  My Ethernet card was not immediately working.
I
 had to reselect in DrakConf that I needed the Tulip driver.  After that,
an
 insmod tulip, ifup eth was all I needed to get it working.  Other than
those
 things, KDE came up OK, and nothing else unusual was apparent.

 Would any other users care to share their experience so far?

 -Kevin