Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-07 Thread Eunice Thompson

What kind of doc are you?

Romanator wrote:
 
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 markOpoleO wrote:
 
  damnit man, stop yelling at everyone, the is is for newbies if you wanna
  make everyone seem dumb at linux go should in a windoze mailing list.
 
 Damnit Jim...I'm a doctor...not a brick layer.
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RE: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-06 Thread Romanator

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Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 8:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta


markOpoleO wrote:
 
 damnit man, stop yelling at everyone, the is is for newbies if you wanna
 make everyone seem dumb at linux go should in a windoze mailing list.

Damnit Jim...I'm a doctor...not a brick layer.
-- 
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What am I a moon shuttle conductor or doctor?

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Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-06 Thread Mwinold

whos yelling?




Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-05 Thread frank

On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Mike  Tracy Holt put to word:
 7.2 is pretty good, lots of good improvements.  On 'upgrade' from 7.1 it
 didn't do so well; wasn't able to detect my network after the upgrade,
 couldn't setup my printer from the installer (which I've never been able to
 do) and a few other minor details.  When I did the fresh install however,
 it DID recognize my network and even had a driver/filter for my printer!
 (Epson 860 on the USB port).  On the downside, kde needs LOTS of work
 (wouldn't close 'x' without ctrl-alt-backspace) and sound doesn't work out
 of the box though the correct modules were configured and are being loaded.
 Overall, there are some awesome new features - I would call it more of an
 'alpha' release at this stage though.

hmmm...sound, printer, network, etc. all working fine here...and no trouble 
closing kde either...mileage does vary...

frank
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Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-05 Thread Ronald J. Hall

patrick wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  reasons i avoid betas and alphas, their more of a pain then the finished bug!
 
 can anybody give us some idea of the differences on 7.2 beta
 
 thanks pat

There was a posting about it on linuxtoday, lots of new stuff apparently, like
over 250 additional packages, as well as XFree v4.01 as standard if your video
card supports it. That, I can't wait for! ;-)

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FW:Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-05 Thread JOSE A MIRLES

I would like to know what the problems are with the beta right now. Is it
using the 2.3 or 2.4test kernels?



José A. Mirles
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patrick wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  reasons i avoid betas and alphas, their more of a pain then the finished bug!

 can anybody give us some idea of the differences on 7.2 beta

 thanks pat

There was a posting about it on linuxtoday, lots of new stuff apparently, like
over 250 additional packages, as well as XFree v4.01 as standard if your video
card supports it. That, I can't wait for! ;-)

--

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   DarkLord
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RE: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-05 Thread Mike Tracy Holt





On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Mike  Tracy Holt put to word:
 7.2 is pretty good, lots of good improvements.  On 'upgrade' from 7.1 it
 didn't do so well; wasn't able to detect my network after the upgrade,
 couldn't setup my printer from the installer (which I've never been able
to
 do) and a few other minor details.  When I did the fresh install however,
 it DID recognize my network and even had a driver/filter for my printer!
 (Epson 860 on the USB port).  On the downside, kde needs LOTS of work
 (wouldn't close 'x' without ctrl-alt-backspace) and sound doesn't work out
 of the box though the correct modules were configured and are being
loaded.
 Overall, there are some awesome new features - I would call it more of an
 'alpha' release at this stage though.

hmmm...sound, printer, network, etc. all working fine here...and no trouble
closing kde either...mileage does vary...

frank
-

Yeah, I've noticed that to be true.  At any rate however, I believe that
there is still a LOT of work to be done seeing that 7.1 and below have
worked fine on this same box (pretty standard hardware).

Mike





[newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread philomena

Anyone having luck installing the 7.2 beta ? I haven't been able to get
it to boot yet.

philomena





Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread Charles A Edwards


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From: "philomena" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 10:09 AM
Subject: [newbie] 7.2 beta


 Anyone having luck installing the 7.2 beta ? I haven't been able to get
 it to boot yet.

 philomena


   I have it installed on 2 systems. One dual boots with Win98SE and the
other with Win2000. The install seemed to take longer propor. than 7.1 but
all OSes boot fine on both machines.
   And before any one comments I have a 3rd system on which I run 7.1 and
BeOS. I'm just "testing" 7.2 on the other machines.

   Charles





Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread Vic

I wish I had my secondary machine, it would be 
an answer to an insterseting qquestion (fsck the typos i don't care)

From what I heard about 7.1 I'm afraid to try 7.2


On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 Anyone having luck installing the 7.2 beta ? I haven't been able to get
 it to boot yet.
 
 philomena




Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread philomena

I managed to get 7.2 to boot - I had to disable mon from starting up,
which is sort of odd. Can't get 7.2 to properly boot one of my other
Linux partitions - still working on that. But its a start.

philomena

Charles A Edwards wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "philomena" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 10:09 AM
 Subject: [newbie] 7.2 beta
 
  Anyone having luck installing the 7.2 beta ? I haven't been able to get
  it to boot yet.
 
  philomena
 
 
I have it installed on 2 systems. One dual boots with Win98SE and the
 other with Win2000. The install seemed to take longer propor. than 7.1 but
 all OSes boot fine on both machines.
And before any one comments I have a 3rd system on which I run 7.1 and
 BeOS. I'm just "testing" 7.2 on the other machines.
 
Charles




Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread frank

On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, philomena put to word:
 Anyone having luck installing the 7.2 beta ? I haven't been able to get
 it to boot yet.

i'm running it as cooker; essentially the same thing, as 7.2 is a snapshot of 
cooker from a few days ago...i always download to a partition that i have set 
aside for keeping files etc...that i don't want blown away when i install a 
new version of mandrake...7.2 installed almost flawlessly - a minor problem 
with printer lists, but that handled well by drakconf after install...

frank





Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread markOpoleO

damnit man, stop yelling at everyone, the is is for newbies if you wanna
make everyone seem dumb at linux go should in a windoze mailing list.

markOpoleO

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Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta


| reasons i avoid betas and alphas, their more of a pain then the finished
bug!
|





Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread patrick

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 reasons i avoid betas and alphas, their more of a pain then the finished bug!



can anybody give us some idea of the differences on 7.2 beta

thanks pat






Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread Adam

I'll be installing 7.2 shortly, I just downloaded the inst and ext iso's,
burnt them.

I'll give everyone a scoop on the differences, new stuff and all that good
stuff :P

sys specs:
PII 350mhz
128mb RAM
2-10.2 gig hdd
sb live value
15" samsung 5e
riva tnt 16mb pci
realtek8139/linksys NIC(s)

Adam
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From: "patrick" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  reasons i avoid betas and alphas, their more of a pain then the finished
bug!



 can anybody give us some idea of the differences on 7.2 beta

 thanks pat











Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread Paul

when can we expect the 7.2 to be released officially? (maybe that one will
install)

Adam wrote:

 I'll be installing 7.2 shortly, I just downloaded the inst and ext iso's,
 burnt them.

 I'll give everyone a scoop on the differences, new stuff and all that good
 stuff :P

 sys specs:
 PII 350mhz
 128mb RAM
 2-10.2 gig hdd
 sb live value
 15" samsung 5e
 riva tnt 16mb pci
 realtek8139/linksys NIC(s)

 Adam
 - Original Message -
 From: "patrick" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 3:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   reasons i avoid betas and alphas, their more of a pain then the finished
 bug!
 
 
 
  can anybody give us some idea of the differences on 7.2 beta
 
  thanks pat
 
 
 
 
 
 





Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread philomena


Here's the announcement page:

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/72beta1.php3

cheers,
philomena


patrick wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  reasons i avoid betas and alphas, their more of a pain then the finished bug!
 
 can anybody give us some idea of the differences on 7.2 beta
 
 thanks pat




Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread Paul


WHEN can we expect it to be released OFFICIALLY (not beta)?
unless it's says on that page, then I'm an idiot...
philomena wrote:
Here's the announcement page:
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/72beta1.php3
cheers,
philomena
patrick wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > reasons i avoid betas and alphas, their more of a pain then the
finished bug!
>
> can anybody give us some idea of the differences on 7.2 beta
>
> thanks pat



Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread patrick

On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 
 WHEN can we expect it to be released OFFICIALLY (not beta)? unless it's says on that
 page, then I'm an idiot...
 
 philomena wrote:
 
  Here's the announcement page:
 
  http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/72beta1.php3
 
  cheers,
  philomena
 
  patrick wrote:
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
reasons i avoid betas and alphas, their more of a pain then the finished bug!
  
   can anybody give us some idea of the differences on 7.2 beta
  
   thanks pat
 
just read the page. sounds pretty interesting. hopefully
it will have kde2.0. 




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Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread Adam

Well, 7.2 turned out pointless, I got to the formatting point in the
installation and it crashed out flat.  I couldn't get around it and I just
went back to 7.0, and used all the 7.2 rpms and upgraded my system.
Maybe the official release will be better.
Adam
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From: "Paul" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta


 when can we expect the 7.2 to be released officially? (maybe that one will
 install)

 Adam wrote:

  I'll be installing 7.2 shortly, I just downloaded the inst and ext
iso's,
  burnt them.
 
  I'll give everyone a scoop on the differences, new stuff and all that
good
  stuff :P
 
  sys specs:
  PII 350mhz
  128mb RAM
  2-10.2 gig hdd
  sb live value
  15" samsung 5e
  riva tnt 16mb pci
  realtek8139/linksys NIC(s)
 
  Adam
  - Original Message -
  From: "patrick" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 3:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
reasons i avoid betas and alphas, their more of a pain then the
finished
  bug!
  
  
  
   can anybody give us some idea of the differences on 7.2 beta
  
   thanks pat
  
  
  
  
  
  










Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread Mark Weaver

Adam wrote:
 
 I'll be installing 7.2 shortly, I just downloaded the inst and ext iso's,
 burnt them.
 
 I'll give everyone a scoop on the differences, new stuff and all that good
 stuff :P
 

O dear...he's gonna torch a perfectly good Penguin just to see "how"
buggy the beta is! There oughta be a law.  :)_
-- 
Mark

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Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread Mark Weaver

markOpoleO wrote:
 
 damnit man, stop yelling at everyone, the is is for newbies if you wanna
 make everyone seem dumb at linux go should in a windoze mailing list.

Damnit Jim...I'm a doctor...not a brick layer.
-- 
Mark

**  =/\=  No Penguins were harmed   | ICQ#27816299
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**  =\/=  message...| Registered Linux user #182496






RE: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread Mike Tracy Holt

7.2 is pretty good, lots of good improvements.  On 'upgrade' from 7.1 it
didn't do so well; wasn't able to detect my network after the upgrade,
couldn't setup my printer from the installer (which I've never been able to
do) and a few other minor details.  When I did the fresh install however, it
DID recognize my network and even had a driver/filter for my printer!
(Epson 860 on the USB port).  On the downside, kde needs LOTS of work
(wouldn't close 'x' without ctrl-alt-backspace) and sound doesn't work out
of the box though the correct modules were configured and are being loaded.
Overall, there are some awesome new features - I would call it more of an
'alpha' release at this stage though.

Mike


Adam wrote:

 I'll be installing 7.2 shortly, I just downloaded the inst and ext iso's,
 burnt them.

 I'll give everyone a scoop on the differences, new stuff and all that good
 stuff :P


O dear...he's gonna torch a perfectly good Penguin just to see "how"
buggy the beta is! There oughta be a law.  :)_
--
Mark

**  =/\=  No Penguins were harmed   | ICQ#27816299
** _||_ in the making of this |
**  =\/=  message...| Registered Linux user #182496






Re: [newbie] 7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread Mark Weaver

Mike  Tracy Holt wrote:
 
 7.2 is pretty good, lots of good improvements.  On 'upgrade' from 7.1 it
 didn't do so well; wasn't able to detect my network after the upgrade,
 couldn't setup my printer from the installer (which I've never been able to
 do) and a few other minor details.  When I did the fresh install however, it
 DID recognize my network and even had a driver/filter for my printer!
 (Epson 860 on the USB port).  On the downside, kde needs LOTS of work
 (wouldn't close 'x' without ctrl-alt-backspace) and sound doesn't work out
 of the box though the correct modules were configured and are being loaded.
 Overall, there are some awesome new features - I would call it more of an
 'alpha' release at this stage though.
 
 Mike

Yikes! well...it looks like it's going to be a little while then. But
that's ok cause 7.1 is running just fine and I don't think I'm going to
change anything just to get KDE2 on here. I'll wait for the final
release for the other machine.
-- 
Mark

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Re: [newbie]7.2 beta

2000-09-04 Thread patrick



this sounds wonderful already. i can see mandrake selling
lots of mandrakes real soon :)




On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 Patrick,
 
 It does have kde2, in beta, and the xfree 4.01 installed fine. 7.2 is
 certainly quirky, since it is still beta - I had to try a few different
 installs before it would boot, and so far, while my printer appears to
 get configured (in DrakConf - the printer list during the install was
 empty), it is ignored by all apps. I also have problems with getting my
 CD/RW working as well as floppy - the internal ZIP worked fine. But,
 this does not bother me, as this is the first beta release - I expect to
 have to do some work. I had problems with booting one of my other OS's ,
 but I got that figured out. Also, while I selected GRUB as the
 bootloader during install, it started up LILO. I had to run the grub
 install script to get that in place. 
 
 cheers,
 philomena
 
 patrick wrote:
  
  On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote:
  
   WHEN can we expect it to be released OFFICIALLY (not beta)? unless it's says on 
that
   page, then I'm an idiot...
  
   philomena wrote:
  
Here's the announcement page:
   
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/72beta1.php3
   
cheers,
philomena
   
patrick wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  reasons i avoid betas and alphas, their more of a pain then the finished 
bug!

 can anybody give us some idea of the differences on 7.2 beta

 thanks pat
  
  just read the page. sounds pretty interesting. hopefully
  it will have kde2.0.
  
  
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