Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-04-02 Thread Toran Korshnah
On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 13:05, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> On Monday 31 March 2003 09:28 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:19 pm, Toran Korshnah wrote:
> > > MM,
> > >
> > > After that you have to perform (not always, I think)
> > >
> > > ./configure
> > > make
> > > make install


Sorry, not necessary with rpm, goes auto!Is for tar, but read doc first.
> > >
> > > This for both rpm and tar.
> > > For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but
> > > not sure!
> >
> > urpmi deals with all of that.
> 
> 
> Even if I have the package in my HD?
> 
> 
> Teilhard Knight
> The Extraterrestrial
> 
> Who ate my sandwich?
> 
> 
> I always have the package I want to install on my HD...
Attention however, I struggle to installing packages, but i think my
system is a bit outdated...MDK 8.1...

Toran
> 
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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-04-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 01 Apr 2003 7:05 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> On Monday 31 March 2003 09:28 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:19 pm, Toran Korshnah wrote:
> > > MM,
> > >
> > > After that you have to perform (not always, I think)
> > >
> > > ./configure
> > > make
> > > make install
> > >
> > > This for both rpm and tar.
> > > For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but
> > > not sure!
> >
> > urpmi deals with all of that.
>
> Even if I have the package in my HD?
>
Should do

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-04-01 Thread Teilhard Knight
On Monday 31 March 2003 09:28 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:19 pm, Toran Korshnah wrote:
> > MM,
> >
> > After that you have to perform (not always, I think)
> >
> > ./configure
> > make
> > make install
> >
> > This for both rpm and tar.
> > For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but
> > not sure!
>
> urpmi deals with all of that.


Even if I have the package in my HD?


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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-04-01 Thread Teilhard Knight
On Sunday 30 March 2003 03:19 pm, Toran Korshnah wrote:
> MM,
>
> After that you have to perform (not always, I think)
>
> ./configure
> make
> make install
>
> This for both rpm and tar.
> For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but
> not sure!


Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-31 Thread Zariyan Zephyr
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Someone says at Desktoplinux.com Forum, "If you feel frustated on
RPM's, You can choose Debian-based Distro". Is apt-get so powerful why
many distros I have seen at Distrowatch.com using RPM's ?. Only few
distros are Debian-based such as Libranet, Xandros. Sorry too many
asking. As a newbie, I need to learn a lot.
Anders Lind wrote:
| dpgk and apt is superior in my opinion, anyway not as good as ports in
| FreeBSD, well, over to your actual question, become root and type:
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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-31 Thread Toran Korshnah
Mm,

Quite right, guys!
Sorry that I was not complete enough!

Toran


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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-31 Thread Anders Lind
> ./configure
> make
> make install
> 
> This for both rpm and tar.

Not for rpm, but often with tar-fileshowever read the INSTALL-file
all the time

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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-31 Thread Michael Scottaline
On 30 Mar 2003 16:19:25 -0500
Toran Korshnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled furiously:

> MM,
> 
> After that you have to perform (not always, I think)
> 
> ./configure
> make
> make install
> 
> This for both rpm and tar.
> For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but
> not sure!
=
For rpm one only needs to:
$rpm -ivh .rpm

and the rest should happen automagically.

With an unterred source file, your three steps above are typical (though
not always required).
The tird one must be done as the root user usually.
Mike

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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:19 pm, Toran Korshnah wrote:
> MM,
>
> After that you have to perform (not always, I think)
>
> ./configure
> make
> make install
>
> This for both rpm and tar.
> For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but
> not sure!
>
urpmi deals with all of that.

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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-31 Thread Toran Korshnah
MM,

After that you have to perform (not always, I think)

./configure
make
make install

This for both rpm and tar.
For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but
not sure!

BB,

Toran


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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-30 Thread Teilhard Knight
On Sunday 30 March 2003 05:01 am, Toran Korshnah wrote:
> On Sunday 30 March 2003 07:12 am, you wrote:
> > How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but
> > obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very
> > short and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed.
> >
> >
> > Teilhard Knight
> > The Extraterrestrial
> >
> > Who ate my sandwich?
>
> Download the file and double-click on it in Konqueror.
> Kpackage will install it for you.
>
> You can also open a shell
> rpm -ivh filename
> in order to install
>
> rpm -Uvh filename
> to upgrade.
>
> also ONLY on Mandrake (same as apt!)
> Urpmi filename


Thanks a lot.


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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-30 Thread Teilhard Knight
On Sunday 30 March 2003 12:39 pm, Derek wrote:
> On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 1:12 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> > How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but
> > obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very
> > short and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed.
> >
> >
> > Teilhard Knight
> > The Extraterrestrial
> >
> > Who ate my sandwich?
>
> Click on it.
> By default konqueror will open kpackage, but there is a better Mandrake
> tool called gurpmi.
> gurpmi is smaller and quicker than kpackage. But an even better advantage
> is the fact that gurpmi will work out any depndencies needed and install
> them for you.
>
> To make gurpmi the default, Open KDE Control Centre>File Browsing>File
> Associations
>
> Enter 'rpm' in the seach box, and the associations for rpm files will be
> shown.
>
> The first application in the list is kpackage, and the second is 'Software
> Installer' (gurpmi).
>
> Just move gurpmi up to the top of the list and it will become the default
> application.
>
> Almost any application you want to install is either on your CDs or an
> online rpm source. To add online sources to your Mandrake Software manager
> install urpmi.setup from your CDs and then run it as root.
> Alternatively go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php


Thanks, Derek. What you suggested is cool. I just finished adding all sort of 
sources of software to the manager. I didn't know how to install urpmi,setup 
from the CD's, so, I used the web site a typed the instructions in a command 
line. I have now urpmi as the default application for rpm's. In any case, I 
tasted everything for the package I installed today (autoconf), and it 
doesn't show in the end. I had to sign up in the club and download it by 
hand. So, I added a "Local" software source site in my home directory.

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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-30 Thread Toran Korshnah
On Sunday 30 March 2003 07:12 am, you wrote:
> How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but
> obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short
> and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed.
>
>
> Teilhard Knight
> The Extraterrestrial
>
> Who ate my sandwich?


Download the file and double-click on it in Konqueror.
Kpackage will install it for you.

You can also open a shell
rpm -ivh filename 
in order to install

rpm -Uvh filename
to upgrade.

also ONLY on Mandrake (same as apt!)
Urpmi filename

BB,

Toran

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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-30 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 22:12, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but 
> obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short 
> and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed.
> 
> 
> Teilhard Knight
> The Extraterrestrial
> 
> Who ate my sandwich?

If you're using Konqueror as your file manager, just click the RPM and
you're happening...or right-click, open with, software installer...

-- 
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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-30 Thread Teilhard Knight
On Sunday 30 March 2003 12:37 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 1:12 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> > How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but
> > obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very
> > short and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed.
>
> I always use Configuration > Packaging > Install Software, others use the
> same gui approach but from MCC.  If you prefer c/l use urpmi - there's a
> man page for it.  All of these maintain a correct database.


Thank you, Anne, I tried the Install Software, but the package I wanted 
doesn't show up there (autoconf). I think I'll try urpmi, as Derek suggests.

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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-30 Thread Anders Lind

How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but 
obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short 
and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed.

dpgk and apt is superior in my opinion, anyway not as good as ports in
FreeBSD, well, over to your actual question, become root and type:

rpm -ivh , (well rpm -i is the actual command
however v makes that you see what happens)
and pray ;o)

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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-30 Thread Teilhard Knight
On Sunday 30 March 2003 12:20 pm, Lanman wrote:
> In a console, you can type the following,... rpm -ivh "name of rpm", and
> press enter.
>
> In KDE, you can open konqueror, browse to the directory where the rpm is,
> and click on it.
>
> Or, in a console, type kpackage, and when the GUI opens, browse to the
> location of the rpm package, and select it. Unless the package has
> dependancies, or was not written for your version of Mandrake, it will
> install without other problems.



Cool. Thanks a bunch.


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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 1:12 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but
> obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short
> and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed.
>
I always use Configuration > Packaging > Install Software, others use the same 
gui approach but from MCC.  If you prefer c/l use urpmi - there's a man page 
for it.  All of these maintain a correct database.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-30 Thread Derek
On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 1:12 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but
> obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short
> and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed.
>
>
> Teilhard Knight
> The Extraterrestrial
>
> Who ate my sandwich?

Click on it.
By default konqueror will open kpackage, but there is a better Mandrake tool 
called gurpmi.
gurpmi is smaller and quicker than kpackage. But an even better advantage is 
the fact that gurpmi will work out any depndencies needed and install them 
for you.

To make gurpmi the default, Open KDE Control Centre>File Browsing>File 
Associations

Enter 'rpm' in the seach box, and the associations for rpm files will be 
shown.

The first application in the list is kpackage, and the second is 'Software 
Installer' (gurpmi).

Just move gurpmi up to the top of the list and it will become the default 
application.

Almost any application you want to install is either on your CDs or an online 
rpm source. To add online sources to your Mandrake Software manager install 
urpmi.setup from your CDs and then run it as root.
Alternatively go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php

derek


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Re: [newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-30 Thread Lanman
In a console, you can type the following,... rpm -ivh "name of rpm", and press enter.

In KDE, you can open konqueror, browse to the directory where the rpm is, and click on 
it.

Or, in a console, type kpackage, and when the GUI opens, browse to the location of the 
rpm package, and select it. Unless the package has dependancies, or was not written 
for your version of Mandrake, it will install without other problems.

Lanman

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On 3/30/2003 at 6:12 AM Teilhard Knight wrote:

>How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but
>obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short
>and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed.
>
>
>Teilhard Knight
>The Extraterrestrial
>
>Who ate my sandwich?
>
>
>
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[newbie] Another very naive question

2003-03-30 Thread Teilhard Knight
How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but 
obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short 
and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed.


Teilhard Knight
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Who ate my sandwich?


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