Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 13:05, Teilhard Knight wrote: > On Monday 31 March 2003 09:28 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:19 pm, Toran Korshnah wrote: > > > MM, > > > > > > After that you have to perform (not always, I think) > > > > > > ./configure > > > make > > > make install Sorry, not necessary with rpm, goes auto!Is for tar, but read doc first. > > > > > > This for both rpm and tar. > > > For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but > > > not sure! > > > > urpmi deals with all of that. > > > Even if I have the package in my HD? > > > Teilhard Knight > The Extraterrestrial > > Who ate my sandwich? > > > I always have the package I want to install on my HD... Attention however, I struggle to installing packages, but i think my system is a bit outdated...MDK 8.1... Toran > > =_1049240805-1530-239 > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Tuesday 01 Apr 2003 7:05 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote: > On Monday 31 March 2003 09:28 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:19 pm, Toran Korshnah wrote: > > > MM, > > > > > > After that you have to perform (not always, I think) > > > > > > ./configure > > > make > > > make install > > > > > > This for both rpm and tar. > > > For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but > > > not sure! > > > > urpmi deals with all of that. > > Even if I have the package in my HD? > Should do Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Monday 31 March 2003 09:28 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:19 pm, Toran Korshnah wrote: > > MM, > > > > After that you have to perform (not always, I think) > > > > ./configure > > make > > make install > > > > This for both rpm and tar. > > For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but > > not sure! > > urpmi deals with all of that. Even if I have the package in my HD? Teilhard Knight The Extraterrestrial Who ate my sandwich? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Sunday 30 March 2003 03:19 pm, Toran Korshnah wrote: > MM, > > After that you have to perform (not always, I think) > > ./configure > make > make install > > This for both rpm and tar. > For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but > not sure! Thanks. Teilhard Knight The Extraterrestrial Who ate my sandwich? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Someone says at Desktoplinux.com Forum, "If you feel frustated on RPM's, You can choose Debian-based Distro". Is apt-get so powerful why many distros I have seen at Distrowatch.com using RPM's ?. Only few distros are Debian-based such as Libranet, Xandros. Sorry too many asking. As a newbie, I need to learn a lot. Anders Lind wrote: | dpgk and apt is superior in my opinion, anyway not as good as ports in | FreeBSD, well, over to your actual question, become root and type: -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+iGANJNWEiI6aGI4RAvo0AJ9DrjWl42yT71EEyhuvdO4zuVTMOwCfWia9 +HQT3cypqWQNPGQdLQdQk3I= =oiKD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
Mm, Quite right, guys! Sorry that I was not complete enough! Toran Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
> ./configure > make > make install > > This for both rpm and tar. Not for rpm, but often with tar-fileshowever read the INSTALL-file all the time /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On 30 Mar 2003 16:19:25 -0500 Toran Korshnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled furiously: > MM, > > After that you have to perform (not always, I think) > > ./configure > make > make install > > This for both rpm and tar. > For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but > not sure! = For rpm one only needs to: $rpm -ivh .rpm and the rest should happen automagically. With an unterred source file, your three steps above are typical (though not always required). The tird one must be done as the root user usually. Mike -- "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." --Muhammad Ali Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:19 pm, Toran Korshnah wrote: > MM, > > After that you have to perform (not always, I think) > > ./configure > make > make install > > This for both rpm and tar. > For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but > not sure! > urpmi deals with all of that. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
MM, After that you have to perform (not always, I think) ./configure make make install This for both rpm and tar. For Urpmi, I do not think so.Ik think that one does all automatic, but not sure! BB, Toran Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Sunday 30 March 2003 05:01 am, Toran Korshnah wrote: > On Sunday 30 March 2003 07:12 am, you wrote: > > How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but > > obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very > > short and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed. > > > > > > Teilhard Knight > > The Extraterrestrial > > > > Who ate my sandwich? > > Download the file and double-click on it in Konqueror. > Kpackage will install it for you. > > You can also open a shell > rpm -ivh filename > in order to install > > rpm -Uvh filename > to upgrade. > > also ONLY on Mandrake (same as apt!) > Urpmi filename Thanks a lot. Teilhard Knight The Extraterrestrial Who ate my sandwich? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Sunday 30 March 2003 12:39 pm, Derek wrote: > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 1:12 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote: > > How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but > > obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very > > short and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed. > > > > > > Teilhard Knight > > The Extraterrestrial > > > > Who ate my sandwich? > > Click on it. > By default konqueror will open kpackage, but there is a better Mandrake > tool called gurpmi. > gurpmi is smaller and quicker than kpackage. But an even better advantage > is the fact that gurpmi will work out any depndencies needed and install > them for you. > > To make gurpmi the default, Open KDE Control Centre>File Browsing>File > Associations > > Enter 'rpm' in the seach box, and the associations for rpm files will be > shown. > > The first application in the list is kpackage, and the second is 'Software > Installer' (gurpmi). > > Just move gurpmi up to the top of the list and it will become the default > application. > > Almost any application you want to install is either on your CDs or an > online rpm source. To add online sources to your Mandrake Software manager > install urpmi.setup from your CDs and then run it as root. > Alternatively go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php Thanks, Derek. What you suggested is cool. I just finished adding all sort of sources of software to the manager. I didn't know how to install urpmi,setup from the CD's, so, I used the web site a typed the instructions in a command line. I have now urpmi as the default application for rpm's. In any case, I tasted everything for the package I installed today (autoconf), and it doesn't show in the end. I had to sign up in the club and download it by hand. So, I added a "Local" software source site in my home directory. Teilhard Knight The Extraterrestrial Who ate my sandwich? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Sunday 30 March 2003 07:12 am, you wrote: > How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but > obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short > and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed. > > > Teilhard Knight > The Extraterrestrial > > Who ate my sandwich? Download the file and double-click on it in Konqueror. Kpackage will install it for you. You can also open a shell rpm -ivh filename in order to install rpm -Uvh filename to upgrade. also ONLY on Mandrake (same as apt!) Urpmi filename BB, Toran Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 22:12, Teilhard Knight wrote: > How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but > obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short > and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed. > > > Teilhard Knight > The Extraterrestrial > > Who ate my sandwich? If you're using Konqueror as your file manager, just click the RPM and you're happening...or right-click, open with, software installer... -- Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kuhn Media Australia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Sunday 30 March 2003 12:37 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 1:12 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote: > > How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but > > obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very > > short and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed. > > I always use Configuration > Packaging > Install Software, others use the > same gui approach but from MCC. If you prefer c/l use urpmi - there's a > man page for it. All of these maintain a correct database. Thank you, Anne, I tried the Install Software, but the package I wanted doesn't show up there (autoconf). I think I'll try urpmi, as Derek suggests. Teilhard Knight The Extraterrestrial Who ate my sandwich? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed. dpgk and apt is superior in my opinion, anyway not as good as ports in FreeBSD, well, over to your actual question, become root and type: rpm -ivh , (well rpm -i is the actual command however v makes that you see what happens) and pray ;o) /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Sunday 30 March 2003 12:20 pm, Lanman wrote: > In a console, you can type the following,... rpm -ivh "name of rpm", and > press enter. > > In KDE, you can open konqueror, browse to the directory where the rpm is, > and click on it. > > Or, in a console, type kpackage, and when the GUI opens, browse to the > location of the rpm package, and select it. Unless the package has > dependancies, or was not written for your version of Mandrake, it will > install without other problems. Cool. Thanks a bunch. Teilhard Knight The Extraterrestrial Who ate my sandwich? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 1:12 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote: > How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but > obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short > and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed. > I always use Configuration > Packaging > Install Software, others use the same gui approach but from MCC. If you prefer c/l use urpmi - there's a man page for it. All of these maintain a correct database. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 1:12 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote: > How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but > obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short > and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed. > > > Teilhard Knight > The Extraterrestrial > > Who ate my sandwich? Click on it. By default konqueror will open kpackage, but there is a better Mandrake tool called gurpmi. gurpmi is smaller and quicker than kpackage. But an even better advantage is the fact that gurpmi will work out any depndencies needed and install them for you. To make gurpmi the default, Open KDE Control Centre>File Browsing>File Associations Enter 'rpm' in the seach box, and the associations for rpm files will be shown. The first application in the list is kpackage, and the second is 'Software Installer' (gurpmi). Just move gurpmi up to the top of the list and it will become the default application. Almost any application you want to install is either on your CDs or an online rpm source. To add online sources to your Mandrake Software manager install urpmi.setup from your CDs and then run it as root. Alternatively go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another very naive question
In a console, you can type the following,... rpm -ivh "name of rpm", and press enter. In KDE, you can open konqueror, browse to the directory where the rpm is, and click on it. Or, in a console, type kpackage, and when the GUI opens, browse to the location of the rpm package, and select it. Unless the package has dependancies, or was not written for your version of Mandrake, it will install without other problems. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 3/30/2003 at 6:12 AM Teilhard Knight wrote: >How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but >obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short >and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed. > > >Teilhard Knight >The Extraterrestrial > >Who ate my sandwich? > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Dan LaBine President Maximum Lans [EMAIL PROTECTED] (514) 489-7825 6915 Fielding Ave. Suite # 228 Montreal, Quebec, H4V 1P4 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Another very naive question
How do I install a rpm package? In Debian I used "dpkg" for deb's, but obviously this doesn't work here. My experience with Debian was very short and upon discovering Mandrake, I soon changed. Teilhard Knight The Extraterrestrial Who ate my sandwich? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com