Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?
On Friday 23 April 2004 07:33 pm, Marc Resnick wrote: Do you have a scsi or ata cdrom? If ATA, what is the device ie /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd? I Think it's SCSI, but I'm not positive. The device is /dev/hdc. If the device is /dev/hdc, it isa ATA. Try 'hdparm /dev/hdc' and see if the output syas dma is on. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?
Ogg is difficult to support on digital audio players, since it's such a resource hog and a battery drain. The Xiph foundation really hasn't focused on it being a portable format yet, which is hindering adoption on the portable player market. iRiver has had a lot of problems integrating it. The only player that has successfully integrated it is the Rio Karma, which is the only player that has also integrated Ogg gapless playback. If you have an iPod, I would suggest ripping in MP3 LAME rather than AAC, as it's more versatile and you won't be locked in to Apple hardware. The reason that iTunes is likely ripping so quickly as it's not taking its time to properly encode. Try ripping in MP3 LAME 3.95 (anything after 3.90 supports gapless in MP3). The Standard setting is a good one. Tracks are around 200 bits and sound great. It will take a long time to rip in LAME but it's worth it. It's taking its time which means fewer artifacts. For those who pick products based on politics and philosophy, AAC, WMA and MP3 will never suit you. But, WMA and AAC are actually good sounding codecs and it would be a rare occasion if someone could tell the difference between them and Ogg at circa 200bits. The problem with WMA and AAC is they lock you in (Steven Jobs and Bill Gates just can't seem to find a new song to sing after all these years), which is why I avoid them. Rory At 11:51 PM 22/04/2004, you wrote: On Thursday 22 April 2004 11:44 pm, Marc Resnick wrote: Yes Greg, after selling some of my old games and running around looking for spare change, I did manage to buy a 10gig 3g like new iPod off of ebay =). I let the coolness factor tempt me for about 10 seconds before I opted for my iriver. No matter how cool a product, I am really having a hard time lately accepting anything that includes an attempt at proprietary lockin. This has nothing to do with open source or GPL philosophy, just open standards. Hopefully in future firmware updates, Ogg Vorbis will be supported. Don't hold your breath :-o -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com ~Rory Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 03:44 am, Rory Gleeson wrote: If you have an iPod, I would suggest ripping in MP3 LAME rather than AAC, I own an iPod and I use MP3's ripped to alt--preset-standard. Probably the best ripper is EAC http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ which is free, but sadly not available for linux. By default I think EAC rips in secure mode which can be very slow. Select fast mode and EAC rips as fast as any ripper. as it's more versatile and you won't be locked in to Apple hardware. The Agreed, it's easy to find a DVD, CD, car stereo player or personal stereo player that supports MP3. Almost every player that supports compressed audio codecs supports MP3. reason that iTunes is likely ripping so quickly as it's not taking its time to properly encode. iTunes can also rip in secure mode, which naturally slows it down, but secure mode is not the default. It is possible to get very high quality rips with iTunes. SR Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?
On Friday 23 April 2004 04:03 am, Stephen Reynolds wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:36:20 -0400, Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why would you do that? Ogg is way better and is fully supported under Linux. Ogg is NOT way better than any moder codec. It's better cause it's free (as in speech). -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?
- Original Message - From: Rory Gleeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux? Ogg is difficult to support on digital audio players, since it's such a resource hog and a battery drain. The Xiph foundation really hasn't focused on it being a portable format yet, which is hindering adoption on the portable player market. iRiver has had a lot of problems integrating it. The only player that has successfully integrated it is the Rio Karma, which is the only player that has also integrated Ogg gapless playback. If you have an iPod, I would suggest ripping in MP3 LAME rather than AAC, as it's more versatile and you won't be locked in to Apple hardware. The reason that iTunes is likely ripping so quickly as it's not taking its time to properly encode. Try ripping in MP3 LAME 3.95 (anything after 3.90 supports gapless in MP3). The Standard setting is a good one. Tracks are around 200 bits and sound great. It will take a long time to rip in LAME but it's worth it. It's taking its time which means fewer artifacts. For those who pick products based on politics and philosophy, AAC, WMA and MP3 will never suit you. But, WMA and AAC are actually good sounding codecs and it would be a rare occasion if someone could tell the difference between them and Ogg at circa 200bits. The problem with WMA and AAC is they lock you in (Steven Jobs and Bill Gates just can't seem to find a new song to sing after all these years), which is why I avoid them. Rory At 11:51 PM 22/04/2004, you wrote: On Thursday 22 April 2004 11:44 pm, Marc Resnick wrote: Yes Greg, after selling some of my old games and running around looking for spare change, I did manage to buy a 10gig 3g like new iPod off of ebay =). I let the coolness factor tempt me for about 10 seconds before I opted for my iriver. No matter how cool a product, I am really having a hard time lately accepting anything that includes an attempt at proprietary lockin. This has nothing to do with open source or GPL philosophy, just open standards. Hopefully in future firmware updates, Ogg Vorbis will be supported. Don't hold your breath :-o -- /g _ I do have all of my tracks ripped by LAME, 160 kbps. I decided to rip them in AAC because, in my opinion, it's better quality than mp3s. Also, with the same number of songs, it's now half the size. 10gb can fill up quickly with music, believe it or not. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by properly encode. I was comparing the actual speed it took just to rip a song, not including encoding. Of course one of the reasons it's much quicker is that iTunes encodes at virtually the same time. AAC doesn't lock me in in any way. There's a plugin for Linux, I can play it in Windows, and I can play it on my iPod. That's all I need. Now speaking of my iPod...my firewire pcmcia card should be coming soon so I can actually put music on it. ___ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com ~Rory Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?
- Original Message - From: Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux? snipzor Make sure dma is on on your optical drives. hdparm is the utility you want to help check this, and use scsi emulation if you are using a 2.4 series kernel (not necessary with 2.6). -- Err...Does that involve recompiling the kernel? If not, can you give a brief explanation on how it's done? I'm using Kernel 2.6.3-4 by the way. (Mandrake RPM version) /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?
On Friday 23 April 2004 06:40 pm, Marc Resnick wrote: Err...Does that involve recompiling the kernel? No If not, can you give a brief explanation on how it's done? I'm using Kernel 2.6.3-4 by the way. (Mandrake RPM version) Do you have a scsi or ata cdrom? If ATA, what is the device ie /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd? -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?
Greg Meyer wrote: On Friday 23 April 2004 06:40 pm, Marc Resnick wrote: Err...Does that involve recompiling the kernel? No If not, can you give a brief explanation on how it's done? I'm using Kernel 2.6.3-4 by the way. (Mandrake RPM version) Do you have a scsi or ata cdrom? If ATA, what is the device ie /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd? I Think it's SCSI, but I'm not positive. The device is /dev/hdc. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
