Re: [newbie] Best browser for linux?
Hey Michael, Gee you must be OLD.. :-) On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 11:06, you manipulated electrons to produce: In fact Mozilla is one of the grandaddys of web browsers Nope; that was Mosaic. -- Cheers, John http://counter.li.org GO HERE IF YOU SUPPORT LINUX! Fablor is now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-)
Re: [newbie] Best browser for linux?
It was Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:23:13 +1000 when John Rigby wrote: Hey Michael, Gee you must be OLD.. :-) In fact Mozilla is one of the grandaddys of web browsers Nope; that was Mosaic. I resent that! I used Mosaic too! :-) Paul -- Who shall decide when doctors disagree? -Alexander Pope http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.1 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:52, Paul wrote: It was Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:15:59 +1000 when Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Netscape 6 is _not_ a clone of Mozilla, or vice-versa, as has been suggested before. Mozilla is an open source (in fact, it is GPL) project to create a fully standards-compliant, cross-platform browser. Netscape 6 is Mozilla with a few enhancements made by AOL (who own Netscape). Netscape 6 is not updated nearly as often as Mozilla, and it is slightly heavier on a system (because of the unnecessary enhancements). If you want to use the Gecko engine, use Mozilla, Nautilus or Galeon. Don't bother with Netscape 6. Netscape is also programmed in a sloppy way. It is famous for its memory leaks. Paul This is the case with Netscape 4.x. Netscape 6 is bad because it is based on an early version of Mozilla (Milestone 18, released late last year). As I mentioned before, Netscape 6.x is simply Mozilla code with extras bolted on. There is nothing new or innovative about it. AOL decided to use the latest version of Mozilla at the time, M18, for Netscape 6 instead of waiting until Mozilla was complete (which wasn't such a bad idea because Mozilla _still_ isn't finished now). Netscape 6.1, is based on Mozilla 0.9. The Mozilla code is not forked in any major way (which would be harmful). All that happens is that from time to time Netscape will take the most recent Mozilla release and add some junk on top. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Best browser for linux?
Netscape is a clone of Mozilla from way back. Nope; Mozilla is the open source REWRITE of the original Netscape Navigator code. And it's so much better now than the original code, that Netscape has thrown away their old code, and used the Mozilla code. In fact Mozilla is one of the grandaddys of web browsers Nope; that was Mosaic. -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF Taking a mental stroll through the psychic park of pleasure.
Re: [newbie] Best browser for linux?
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 11:06, Michael Leone wrote: Netscape is a clone of Mozilla from way back. Nope; Mozilla is the open source REWRITE of the original Netscape Navigator code. And it's so much better now than the original code, that Netscape has thrown away their old code, and used the Mozilla code. Close, but not quite :-) In 1998, Netscape released the alpha-level code for their version 5 Communicator suite as open source. The Mozilla Project was formed to turn this into a functional product that Netscape could use with minimal alteration. After about a year of trying to comprehend and work on this code, the Mozilla developers deemed it more prudent to start afresh. This is a major reason why Mozilla has taken so long to take shape. Other reasons include its aims of being cross-platform and of becoming an entire platform, not just a browser suite (e.g. there are office suites being made to work inside Mozilla). Netscape, as they originally planned, are using Mozilla as their base for their Netscape 6 product. Only very minor alterations have been made, with the addition of extra advertising and sidebar content. In fact Mozilla is one of the grandaddys of web browsers Nope; that was Mosaic. That is correct. Marc Andressen (a Netscape Communications founder) was one of the leaders of Mosaic's development. Both IE (all versions) and Netscape Navigator (up to version 4.x) are based on this code. Netscape 6 is the first browser from the browser wars competitors (namely, M$ and Netscape) that does _not_ contain any Mosaic code. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
RE: [newbie] Best browser for linux?
I actually like Mozilla - it's a Netscape clone. -Original Message- From: OOzy Pal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 12:56 To: Ravi Malghan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Best browser for linux? Try Nestscape 6.1 it is good. They fix most of NS6.0 problems --- Ravi Malghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? Thanks Ravi = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
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Hi Isn't it the other way round? Netscape is based on Mozilla, or am I wrong thinkin' that. Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Dennis Herndon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'OOzy Pal' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ravi Malghan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Best browser for linux? I actually like Mozilla - it's a Netscape clone. -Original Message- From: OOzy Pal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 12:56 To: Ravi Malghan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Best browser for linux? Try Nestscape 6.1 it is good. They fix most of NS6.0 problems --- Ravi Malghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? Thanks Ravi = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Best browser for linux?
Netscape 6 is Mozilla (an open source project) with extra AOL junk (advertising, etc.) placed on top. Why use Netscape 6, when Mozilla is leaner and meaner? On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:55, Robert MacLean wrote: Hi Isn't it the other way round? Netscape is based on Mozilla, or am I wrong thinkin' that. Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Dennis Herndon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'OOzy Pal' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ravi Malghan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Best browser for linux? I actually like Mozilla - it's a Netscape clone. -Original Message- From: OOzy Pal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 12:56 To: Ravi Malghan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Best browser for linux? Try Nestscape 6.1 it is good. They fix most of NS6.0 problems --- Ravi Malghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? Thanks Ravi = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
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That should be around the other way, netscape is a mozilla clone,, it uses mozilla code.. as far as I am aware. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Herndon Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2001 9:46 PM To: 'OOzy Pal'; Ravi Malghan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Best browser for linux? I actually like Mozilla - it's a Netscape clone. -Original Message- From: OOzy Pal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 12:56 To: Ravi Malghan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Best browser for linux? Try Nestscape 6.1 it is good. They fix most of NS6.0 problems --- Ravi Malghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? Thanks Ravi = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Best browser for linux?
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:34, arro wrote: I would suggest Opera 5.2. It's under three megs, you can get get it in a rpm package. Works great, and loads fast and free (with ads). You can find it at www.opera.com. Lynn Sadler -- powered by the Penquin (Linux-Mandrake) well opera is a nice small browser indeed which has a few useful features like the MDI view , but its rendering engine is not so well , also it does not support netscape compatible plugins ...means no java or flash , and it's Javascript implementation is nothing but poor ...furthermore more complicated or faulty pages sometimes happen to crash the browser. AND THEY STILL WANT MONEY FOR IT (well there is a banner version too, to be fair..) I always would recommend using a browser based on the gecko rendering engine ...like mozilla,galeon, i personally don't like mozilla or Konqueror(don't know which engine this one is using) because they seems to take too much resources so finally i also end up most times using galeon... well i guess there is no browser yet to be really satisfied yet. Opera is a great browser primarily for its speed. It aims to be fully standards-compliant (unlike Netscape 4.x and IE). However, Mozilla is just as fast and just as (maybe even more) standards-compliant. Mozilla has its own Gecko rendering engine. The same engine is used in Netscape 6, Galeon and Nautilus, so pages in those browsers should look identical to pages in Mozilla. Konqueror has its own engine, KHTML, but it can also use Gecko through the Kmozilla plug-in (part of KDE 2.2). Netscape 6 is _not_ a clone of Mozilla, or vice-versa, as has been suggested before. Mozilla is an open source (in fact, it is GPL) project to create a fully standards-compliant, cross-platform browser. Netscape 6 is Mozilla with a few enhancements made by AOL (who own Netscape). Netscape 6 is not updated nearly as often as Mozilla, and it is slightly heavier on a system (because of the unnecessary enhancements). If you want to use the Gecko engine, use Mozilla, Nautilus or Galeon. Don't bother with Netscape 6. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Best browser for linux?
It was Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:15:59 +1000 when Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Netscape 6 is _not_ a clone of Mozilla, or vice-versa, as has been suggested before. Mozilla is an open source (in fact, it is GPL) project to create a fully standards-compliant, cross-platform browser. Netscape 6 is Mozilla with a few enhancements made by AOL (who own Netscape). Netscape 6 is not updated nearly as often as Mozilla, and it is slightly heavier on a system (because of the unnecessary enhancements). If you want to use the Gecko engine, use Mozilla, Nautilus or Galeon. Don't bother with Netscape 6. Netscape is also programmed in a sloppy way. It is famous for its memory leaks. Paul -- No amount of time can erase the memory of a good cat. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.1 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
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Try Nestscape 6.1 it is good. They fix most of NS6.0 problems --- Ravi Malghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? Thanks Ravi = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
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Links is *the* best text-only browser out there, bar none! A few weeks ago, I accidentally wrecked my X setup while trying to upgrade to XFree 4.1. I was too lazy to try and fix it at the time, so I spent the next few days doing all my ordinary web browsing in Links. It is really refreshing to see only the information, with no fancy unnecesary graphics. Links has several advantages over Lynx. It has mouse support (via the gpm daemon), and it handles tables and frames very well (Lynx can't handle these at all). And since it is text-only, it is really *fast*. On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:12, s wrote: Konqueror is my fave. Opera, mozilla, galeon, and slipknot (or something or other that comes with the power pack) are all adequate enough, but konqueror is undoubtedly the best (imo). And if you like a netscape, get 6.1. It is very stable and useable, cause your right, 6.0 will crash every dern time you open it. If you like text only lynx is neato in a terminal (I like to play with it sometimes and it's handy if your X won't boot - so remember it for future reference), and then there's links. -s On Thursday 19 July 2001 10:25 am, you wrote: Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? Thanks Ravi -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
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On Friday 20 July 2001 03:23 am, you wrote: Links is *the* best text-only browser out there, bar none! Well, won't argue with you there. I just spent about an hour playing with it and the mouse support is handy dandy! I didn't realize it had that. :-) -s
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Java works fine. In fact, Opera was the first browser to support java 2, as far as I know, but I know it was before netscape or explorer Quoting Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Opera 5 for Linux works great for me, although I think Java does not work yet. Dave On Thursday 19 July 2001 10:25, thus spake Ravi Malghan: Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? Thanks Ravi - Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: - - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7Vv1nOiMJhTaLf3MRArnZAKCcqjzm0FZjOdDHusa1/tdKGklNyQCfbyVC lISEbSzUkfKJmWJqCRMbgSc= =w5H9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Ignorance is underrated
[newbie] Best browser for linux?
Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? Thanks Ravi
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Opera 5 for Linux works great for me, although I think Java does not work yet. Dave On Thursday 19 July 2001 10:25, thus spake Ravi Malghan: Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? Thanks Ravi - Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: - - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7Vv1nOiMJhTaLf3MRArnZAKCcqjzm0FZjOdDHusa1/tdKGklNyQCfbyVC lISEbSzUkfKJmWJqCRMbgSc= =w5H9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Konqueror works fine for me. Its stable, and seems to render pages well. If you use KDE, the konqueror icon is on your panel. -- From: Ravi Malghan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 16:25 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Best browser for linux? Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? Thanks Ravi _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 META content=MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800 name=GENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=#ff DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=26.0, it works great but crashes very often.nbsp; Does anybody have any suggestion on/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2which broswer works great?/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Thanks/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Ravi/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML HTMLBODYBR _BR This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star InternetBR delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For furtherBR information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively callBR Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.BR /BODY/HTML _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.
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My only problem with Konqueror has been with its rendering of floating tables. Aligned tables, no problem, but floating--what a mess. If you're unfamiliar with floating tables, see http://www.prepaid-phone-cards-gbs.com And while you're there, lemme know what you think of my shameless Mandrake/Apache plug at the bottom made my yours truly ;-) Civileme can tell me if I need a trademark or copyright do-dad. Miark - Original Message - From: Adams, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ravi Malghan' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:30 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Best browser for linux? Konqueror works fine for me. Its stable, and seems to render pages well. If you use KDE, the konqueror icon is on your panel. -- From: Ravi Malghan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 16:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Best browser for linux? Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? Thanks Ravi ___ __ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 META content=MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800 name=GENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=#ff DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=26.0, it works great but crashes very often.nbsp; Does anybody have any suggestion on/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2which broswer works great?/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Thanks/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Ravi/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML HTMLBODYBR ___ __BR This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star InternetBR delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For furtherBR information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively callBR Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.BR /BODY/HTML _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.
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Ravi Malghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? I like Opera 5.0 VERY much! Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: [newbie] Best browser for linux?
Konqueror is my fave. Opera, mozilla, galeon, and slipknot (or something or other that comes with the power pack) are all adequate enough, but konqueror is undoubtedly the best (imo). And if you like a netscape, get 6.1. It is very stable and useable, cause your right, 6.0 will crash every dern time you open it. If you like text only lynx is neato in a terminal (I like to play with it sometimes and it's handy if your X won't boot - so remember it for future reference), and then there's links. -s On Thursday 19 July 2001 10:25 am, you wrote: Hello: I have Mandrake 8.0 and use the default browser Netscape which comes with it. But this sucks specially on pages where there are some applets. I tried installing Netscape 6.0, it works great but crashes very often. Does anybody have any suggestion on which broswer works great? Thanks Ravi
