Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
On Monday 22 December 2003 18:03, Anne Wilson wrote: Same one, HarM In that case I certainly would advise urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable://mnt/cdrom to get at least the packages and dependencies data-bases as they should be. And of course see what dmesg has to say about errors on your sound card. On top check what modules get loaded on boot that are connecred to your sound device. Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
On Monday 22 December 2003 17:13, Aaron wrote: do rpm -qa | grep alsa i get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sefernigunim]# rpm -qa |grep alsa alsamixergui-0.9.0-0.9rc1_2mdk libalsa-data-0.9.8-1thac libalsa2-static-devel-0.9.8-1thac alsa-utils-0.9.6-3mdk pd-alsa-jack-extended-0.36-2thac pd-alsa-jack-extended-devel-0.36-2thac libalsa2-0.9.8-1thac libalsa2-devel-0.9.8-1thac [EMAIL PROTECTED] sefernigunim]# My urpmi source file uses thac for audio but the same files exist from mandrake as well. Aaron alsaplayer-0.99.74-1mdk alsaplayer-plugin-input-vorbis-0.99.74-1mdk xmms-alsa-0.9.7-3mdk xine-lib-compat-alsa-0.9.13-11mdk alsaplayer-plugin-input-mad-0.99.74-1mdk alsaplayer-plugin-input-flac-0.99.74-1mdk alsaplayer-plugin-ui-gtk-0.99.74-1mdk libalsa2-0.9.0-0.14rc7.1mdk alsa-utils-0.9.0-0.8rc7mdk alsaplayer-plugin-output-esound-0.99.74-1mdk alsaplayer-plugin-output-nas-0.99.74-1mdk libalsa-data-0.9.0-0.14rc7.1mdk alsaplayer-plugin-input-mod-0.99.74-1mdk alsaplayer-plugin-output-jack-0.99.74-1mdk alsamixergui-0.9.0-0.6rc1_2mdk alsaplayer-plugin-input-sndfile-0.99.74-1mdk xine-alsa-1-0.beta4.1mdk Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
On Monday 22 December 2003 17:15, Doug Roberts wrote: Anne...I sent this to Mandrake today...hoping my meager insights could put them on the path to making a corrective update to the XF86 mess they have made for us... Doug Roberts Thanks for your efforts, Doug. Let's hope it gets sorted soon. I've had 3 days of misery now. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
On Monday 22 December 2003 17:15, Doug Roberts wrote: Anne...I sent this to Mandrake today...hoping my meager insights could put them on the path to making a corrective update to the XF86 mess they have made for us... Doug Roberts Thanks for your efforts, Doug. Let's hope it gets sorted soon. I've had 3 days of misery now. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? LOL...me too...I miss not having my laptop...and I am very leery of 'updating' my other machine at home that has MDK 9.1 on itat least till this problem gets solved... Doug Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User No: 160487 - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
On Monday 22 December 2003 17:18, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Monday 22 December 2003 18:03, Anne Wilson wrote: Same one, HarM In that case I certainly would advise urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable://mnt/cdrom to get at least the packages and dependencies data-bases as they should be. And of course see what dmesg has to say about errors on your sound card. On top check what modules get loaded on boot that are connecred to your sound device. Good luck, HarM medium Installation CD1 (x86) (cdrom1) already exists I think that was a temporary glitch, as I had changed the name in fstab. I've just mounted it under the convenient name and also as the cdrom that it original was. I can't see anything in dmesg. This from boot.log: Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o.gz: Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: init_module: No such device Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o.gz failed Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: modprobe: insmod emu10k1 failed Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux sound: Loading sound module (emu10k1) failed How can I check irqs? It wasn't a problem on my last install, but could they have been allocated differently? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
On Monday 22 December 2003 17:31, Doug Roberts wrote: On Monday 22 December 2003 17:15, Doug Roberts wrote: Anne...I sent this to Mandrake today...hoping my meager insights could put them on the path to making a corrective update to the XF86 mess they have made for us... Doug Roberts Thanks for your efforts, Doug. Let's hope it gets sorted soon. I've had 3 days of misery now. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? LOL...me too...I miss not having my laptop...and I am very leery of 'updating' my other machine at home that has MDK 9.1 on itat least till this problem gets solved... I have to say that I have been using Mandrake Update regularly for 2 years, without problems until this. - but the bomb they've thrown this time is a big one g Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
ok next could you send me cat /etc/modules.conf please Thanks Aaron Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 22 December 2003 17:13, Aaron wrote: do rpm -qa | grep alsa i get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sefernigunim]# rpm -qa |grep alsa alsamixergui-0.9.0-0.9rc1_2mdk libalsa-data-0.9.8-1thac libalsa2-static-devel-0.9.8-1thac alsa-utils-0.9.6-3mdk pd-alsa-jack-extended-0.36-2thac pd-alsa-jack-extended-devel-0.36-2thac libalsa2-0.9.8-1thac libalsa2-devel-0.9.8-1thac [EMAIL PROTECTED] sefernigunim]# My urpmi source file uses thac for audio but the same files exist from mandrake as well. Aaron alsaplayer-0.99.74-1mdk alsaplayer-plugin-input-vorbis-0.99.74-1mdk xmms-alsa-0.9.7-3mdk xine-lib-compat-alsa-0.9.13-11mdk alsaplayer-plugin-input-mad-0.99.74-1mdk alsaplayer-plugin-input-flac-0.99.74-1mdk alsaplayer-plugin-ui-gtk-0.99.74-1mdk libalsa2-0.9.0-0.14rc7.1mdk alsa-utils-0.9.0-0.8rc7mdk alsaplayer-plugin-output-esound-0.99.74-1mdk alsaplayer-plugin-output-nas-0.99.74-1mdk libalsa-data-0.9.0-0.14rc7.1mdk alsaplayer-plugin-input-mod-0.99.74-1mdk alsaplayer-plugin-output-jack-0.99.74-1mdk alsamixergui-0.9.0-0.6rc1_2mdk alsaplayer-plugin-input-sndfile-0.99.74-1mdk xine-alsa-1-0.beta4.1mdk Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
On Monday 22 December 2003 18:33, Anne Wilson wrote: Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: modprobe: insmod emu10k1 failed Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux sound: Loading sound module (emu10k1) failed Well they're not getting loaded that's for sure. I gathered that lspci sees the device for what it isdid you check if the module is really there, where it's supposed to be? This is still the stock kernel with the 9.1 base install, I presume -or has that beenupgraded too? How can I check irqs? It wasn't a problem on my last install, but could they have been allocated differently? That should be in dmesg too, but cat /proc/pci shows irq's as well Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
On Monday 22 December 2003 18:15, Doug Roberts wrote: I think somebody messed up on the initiallizing script...because I can find xinit in /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit and /usr/bin/X11/xinit. IMHO the initializing script seems to be looking for xinit in one place and the system has it stashed in another place. Was there a change in placement of the X server files? Was the initiallizing script changed to reflect this new location? Doug, Did you try running XFdrake again, thus making sure the symlink is OK? It'll probably get lost if XF86 gets uninstalled. Or mcc and chose display configuration. Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
On Monday 22 December 2003 18:15, Doug Roberts wrote: I think somebody messed up on the initiallizing script...because I can find xinit in /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit and /usr/bin/X11/xinit. IMHO the initializing script seems to be looking for xinit in one place and the system has it stashed in another place. Was there a change in placement of the X server files? Was the initiallizing script changed to reflect this new location? Doug, Did you try running XFdrake again, thus making sure the symlink is OK? It'll probably get lost if XF86 gets uninstalled. Yup..I did XFdrake again and got a small window showing the video properties of my machine. I try test and it kicks me out to the command prompt again. Try XFdrake again and have it 'do' and it restarts the X server and quits. Try startx again and still no go..same error message as before. Or mcc and chose display configuration. See abovestill no luck..this is one stubborn problem Doug Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User No: 160487 - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
On Monday 22 December 2003 20:07, Doug Roberts wrote: See abovestill no luck..this is one stubborn problem Doug - I don't know whether this will help or not. I re-installed 9.1, then proceeded to lose kde. This is how I got it back. Perhaps the same technique will work for X su to root type 'urpmi XFree86' and it should come up with a list of all the packages available. Look for the package most likely to be the base package first and urpmi it, then any others that look likely. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
On Monday 22 December 2003 20:07, Doug Roberts wrote: See abovestill no luck..this is one stubborn problem Doug - I don't know whether this will help or not. I re-installed 9.1, then proceeded to lose kde. This is how I got it back. Perhaps the same technique will work for X su to root type 'urpmi XFree86' and it should come up with a list of all the packages available. Look for the package most likely to be the base package first and urpmi it, then any others that look likely. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? SUCCESS! I downloaded all the XFree86 files from the U of Wisconsin mirror with my Win machine...burnt a CD and then transferreed the files to my laptop. Put them into a tmp directory and them rpm -Uvh them one at a timedoing it in a batch failed twice. I still noticed that when I rpm'd the XFree86-glide file it calfed saying there is a failed dependancy with libglide3.so.3 (wonder where they hid that one..???) Yet KDE is now back after getting into my user and running startx again...VBG. Man..what a load of crap to go through. Doug Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User No: 160487 - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed
On Monday 22 December 2003 20:49, Doug Roberts wrote: On Monday 22 December 2003 20:07, Doug Roberts wrote: See abovestill no luck..this is one stubborn problem Doug - I don't know whether this will help or not. I re-installed 9.1, then proceeded to lose kde. This is how I got it back. Perhaps the same technique will work for X su to root type 'urpmi XFree86' and it should come up with a list of all the packages available. Look for the package most likely to be the base package first and urpmi it, then any others that look likely. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? SUCCESS! I downloaded all the XFree86 files from the U of Wisconsin mirror with my Win machine...burnt a CD and then transferreed the files to my laptop. Put them into a tmp directory and them rpm -Uvh them one at a timedoing it in a batch failed twice. I still noticed that when I rpm'd the XFree86-glide file it calfed saying there is a failed dependancy with libglide3.so.3 (wonder where they hid that one..???) Yet KDE is now back after getting into my user and running startx again...VBG. Man..what a load of crap to go through. Doug Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User No: 160487 - Well done! I wish I had managed it. This install has been much more problematic than the original one - I think. Come to think of it I was in a panic for 2 or 3 days when I first installed 9.1. Lots of things weren't right, and people had to help me, but they were not the same problems as I've got this time. Funny, isn't it? The same thing happened when I installed 8.2 for a second time - some things were better and others didn't work without a lot of help. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
