[newbie] CA Blasts SCO, Disputes Linux License Claim; SCO Sues Two Linux Users, Warns About Further Action
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Re: [newbie] CA Blasts SCO, Disputes Linux License Claim; SCO Sues Two Linux Users, Warns About Further Action
On March 10, 2004 04:23 am, Glenn wrote: http://www.computerworld.com/newsletter/0,4902,90853,00.html?nlid=LIN and http://www.computerworld.com/newsletter/0,4902,90868,00.html?nlid=LIN Gee! What a total surprise this is! Grin! I'm pretty sure that someone on this list, and others in a variety of publications suggested that SCO would change from being a Unix/Linux solutions provider to a company specializing in litigation. Looks like they were right! Perhaps, if we started sending all our old Linux CD's to SCO we'd be able to finally get these whiners to shut up? That way, we could just make it too difficult for SCO to send any mail out. The post office would be pissed, but ultimately it would be the cleanest Denial of Service ( Postal, that is! ) they'd ever seen. After all, if SCO wants to protect their code so much why not help them by sending it back? It's the least we could do! Of course, I don't think we'll be seeing people lining up to buy Caldera any time soon. Personally, I am so fed up with this nonsense that I'm totally bored with SCO. If they ever get their ducks in a row and show the world that they've actually been cheated, I'll pay attention, but until then I wish they'd just shut up and go away. Hey Darl - Get a life and give it a rest will ya? Enough already! -- Lanman Registered Linux user #190712 Running Mandrake 10.0 RC1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CA Blasts SCO, Disputes Linux License Claim; SCO Sues Two Linux Users, Warns About Further Action
On Wednesday 10 March 2004 08:57 am, Lanman wrote: Gee! What a total surprise this is! Grin! I'm pretty sure that someone on this list, and others in a variety of publications suggested that SCO would change from being a Unix/Linux solutions provider to a company specializing in litigation. snipped Personally, I am so fed up with this nonsense that I'm totally bored with SCO. If they ever get their ducks in a row and show the world that they've actually been cheated, I'll pay attention, but until then I wish they'd just shut up and go away. Hey Darl - Get a life and give it a rest will ya? Enough already! Well, you just hit on the entire point of this matter. SCO was looking to get bought out in order to salvage some of what they invested in a dying company. First, they expected that the mere threat of a lawsuit would convince IBM to go ahead and buy them out. Once that didn't happen, they realized that they would need to make as big a pain as possible for every person in order to increase the pressure to go ahead with a buyout. Ultimately, I think that they missed the boat on this one. I suspect that IBM and assorted other companies actually want to litigate this in order to set an example for any other company that would come up with the same bright idea. That means that the bigger a fool that SCO makes of itself for making all and sundry claims, the more likely IBM and co are to pursue the case to the final legal conclusion. The one bright spot about all of this is that the US is rapidly providing a shining example of why our IP and copyright models are antiquated and no longer serving their original purpose. This makes it more likely that other countries will hopefully form their own systems rather than try to model them after the US. At least, that is the one hopeful thing that I have been able to salvage from the entire SCO freakshow. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CA Blasts SCO, Disputes Linux License Claim; SCO Sues Two Linux Users, Warns About Further Action
On Wednesday 10 March 2004 15:32, Bryan Phinney wrote: snip The one bright spot about all of this is that the US is rapidly providing a shining example of why our IP and copyright models are antiquated and no longer serving their original purpose. This makes it more likely that other countries will hopefully form their own systems rather than try to model them after the US. At least, that is the one hopeful thing that I have been able to salvage from the entire SCO freakshow. /snip Sorry to disappoint you, Bryan. Take a look : http://www.ipjustice.org/CODE/021604.html the essence of which is : money rules. Kaj Haulrich. -- ** Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer ** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CA Blasts SCO, Disputes Linux License Claim; SCO Sues Two Linux Users, Warns About Further Action
Bryan Phinney wrote: The one bright spot about all of this is that the US is rapidly providing a shining example of why our IP and copyright models are antiquated and no longer serving their original purpose. This makes it more likely that other countries will hopefully form their own systems rather than try to model them after the US. At least, that is the one hopeful thing that I have been able to salvage from the entire SCO freakshow. The original purpose of patenting and copy write was to protect original and novel ideas for the purpose of rewarding their creators. It has long since been clear to me that the purpose today is to create blocks to widespread use of that which is rightfully the property of us all. There are , for instance, firms out there patenting gnomes,not just novel compounds, and this will make lawyers rich at the expense of society. This SCO thing is a prime example of an attempt by a monopolist to extract fear in the market place on the use of rival ideas, though in this case it is also a sign of weakness, because it means that monopolist is frightened of competition, and it is a classic sign of a maturing monopolist trying to protect itself, instead of concentrating on developing their own new ideas to keep them ahead. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CA Blasts SCO, Disputes Linux License Claim; SCO Sues Two Linux Users, Warns About Further Action
On Wednesday 10 March 2004 07:32 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 10 March 2004 08:57 am, Lanman wrote: Gee! What a total surprise this is! Grin! I'm pretty sure that someone on this list, and others in a variety of publications suggested that SCO would change from being a Unix/Linux solutions provider to a company specializing in litigation. snipped Personally, I am so fed up with this nonsense that I'm totally bored with SCO. If they ever get their ducks in a row and show the world that they've actually been cheated, I'll pay attention, but until then I wish they'd just shut up and go away. Hey Darl - Get a life and give it a rest will ya? Enough already! Well, you just hit on the entire point of this matter. SCO was looking to get bought out in order to salvage some of what they invested in a dying company. First, they expected that the mere threat of a lawsuit would convince IBM to go ahead and buy them out. Once that didn't happen, they realized that they would need to make as big a pain as possible for every person in order to increase the pressure to go ahead with a buyout. Ultimately, I think that they missed the boat on this one. I suspect that IBM and assorted other companies actually want to litigate this in order to set an example for any other company that would come up with the same bright idea. That means that the bigger a fool that SCO makes of itself for making all and sundry claims, the more likely IBM and co are to pursue the case to the final legal conclusion. The one bright spot about all of this is that the US is rapidly providing a shining example of why our IP and copyright models are antiquated and no longer serving their original purpose. This makes it more likely that other countries will hopefully form their own systems rather than try to model them after the US. At least, that is the one hopeful thing that I have been able to salvage from the entire SCO freakshow. I wonder if being thought of as a fool bothers that bunch?Let's faceit nobody will ever hire the lawyers again for anything having shown so little judgement. ( of course this may be whySCO presists because they know that this will be thier last score) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CA Blasts SCO, Disputes Linux License Claim; SCO Sues Two Linux Users, Warns About Further Action
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 08:17:55 -0800 Aron Smith disseminated the following: The one bright spot about all of this is that the US is rapidly providing a shining example of why our IP and copyright models are antiquated and no longer serving their original purpose. This makes it more likely that other countries will hopefully form their own systems rather than try to model them after the US. At least, that is the one hopeful thing that I have been able to salvage from the entire SCO freakshow. I wonder if being thought of as a fool bothers that bunch?Let's faceit nobody will ever hire the lawyers again for anything having shown so little judgement. ( of course this may be whySCO presists because they know that this will be thier last score) It's *really* starting to unravel for them now: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/03/09/0036215 -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 12:08:21 up 33 days, 23:50, Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 ++ In the long run, there is no capitalism without conscience; there is no wealth without character. -- George W. Bush on Wall Street, July 9, 2002 It was like watching a whore pretend to be dean of Southern Methodist University's School of Theology. -- Molly Ivins and Lou Dubose, Bushwhacked Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CA Blasts SCO, Disputes Linux License Claim; SCO Sues Two Linux Users, Warns About Further Action
John Richard Smith wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: The one bright spot about all of this is that the US is rapidly providing a shining example of why our IP and copyright models are antiquated and no longer serving their original purpose. This makes it more likely that other countries will hopefully form their own systems rather than try to model them after the US. At least, that is the one hopeful thing that I have been able to salvage from the entire SCO freakshow. The original purpose of patenting and copy write was to protect original and novel ideas for the purpose of rewarding their creators. It has long since been clear to me that the purpose today is to create blocks to widespread use of that which is rightfully the property of us all. There are , for instance, firms out there patenting gnomes, Gnomes? Are we talking about the alternative to KDE, or the garden variety? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CA Blasts SCO, Disputes Linux License Claim; SCO Sues Two Linux Users, Warns About Further Action
On Wednesday 10 March 2004 02:51 pm, Margot wrote: The original purpose of patenting and copy write was to protect original and novel ideas for the purpose of rewarding their creators. It has long since been clear to me that the purpose today is to create blocks to widespread use of that which is rightfully the property of us all. There are , for instance, firms out there patenting gnomes, Gnomes? Are we talking about the alternative to KDE, or the garden variety? I suspect he meant genomes although the garden variety probably has been patented by someone, somewhere. In good news, Eolas Technologies' patent on web components has been invalidated by the US Patent Trade Office. One down, 9,000,000 more bad patents to go. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
