Re: [newbie] Clock settings

2002-10-30 Thread Suppachai Rattanadiloknaphuket
at konsole
type ti + tab text command will show command about
ti***
when u want to use command type man command but i
cant read:( have Thai language?
sawaddee
--- Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Todd,
 
 I use Win4Lin and the same thing happened to me.
 When I corrected
 the time today, it took.
 
 Miark
 
 On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:09:35 +
 Todd Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Maybe you're right.  I never saw a setting in
 BIOS, but I'll check 
  again.  I never did boot to windows.  I only used
 win4lin.  It was wierd 
  because I was up during the time change, and it
 worked fine.  I actually 
  left the machine on and when I came back in the
 morning, it was 2 hrs 
  behind.  That's when started messing with the kde
 clock settings and 
  when I rebooted, the time was 6hrs behind (like
 KDE was assuming that 
  the hardware clock was set to  GMT)
  
  Todd
  
  Richard Urwin wrote:
  
  The background is that MS sets the hardware clock
 in local time, whereas
  *nix sets it to GMT and handles local time in
 software.
  
  Actually I would be suprised if it was the BIOS,
 did you boot Windows at
  some point? That would have changed the hardware
 clock. Since Windows
  takes care of it, I don't see a BIOS manufacturer
 designing such a
  feature. It would be wrong whatever OS you ran.
 If it was a feature of
  the BIOS I would expect there to be an option to
 turn it off.
  
  --
  Richard Urwin, Private
  No 9000 series computer has ever made a mitsake
 or corrubiteddatatato.
  
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf
 Of John Richard Smith
  Sent: 29 October 2002 11:25
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Clock settings
  
  
  Todd Franklin wrote:
  

  
  OK here's my problem:  Daylight savings time
 took effect the other 
  night.  My BIOS seems to be capable of taking
 care of this itself.  
  KDE did too.  So now my clock was 2 hrs behind. 
 I used the KDE time 
  and Date configuration, and set it to the
 correct time CST (central 
  standard time GMT-6) and then when I rebooted,
 kde reported time 6 
  hours behind. In other words, KDE thinks the
 bios clock is set to 
  GMT.  But in boot-up, linux reported the proper
 time.  So this time I 
  set KDE to unspecified (UTC) and now the BIOS,
 KDE and Linux boot-up 
  report the proper time.  However, Netscape mail
 tags all my messages 
  in GMT.  Can somebody tell me the proper way to
 fix this problem.
  
  Todd
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
  
  Possibly you don't haveKED - Control Center 
 -  System  -  Date+time
  set
  to your local ?
  
  It ought to then read your system clock and
 adjust it,but somehow it
  makes
  little mistakes , so just alter it.
  John
  

  
 


  
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Re: [newbie] Clock settings

2002-10-30 Thread Todd Franklin




Thanks Miark Nice to know I'm not alone 
:-) 

Miark wrote:

  Todd,

I use Win4Lin and the same thing happened to me. When I corrected
the time today, it took.

Miark

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:09:35 +
Todd Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
Maybe you're right.  I never saw a setting in BIOS, but I'll check 
again.  I never did boot to windows.  I only used win4lin.  It was wierd 
because I was up during the time change, and it worked fine.  I actually 
left the machine on and when I came back in the morning, it was 2 hrs 
behind.  That's when started messing with the kde clock settings and 
when I rebooted, the time was 6hrs behind (like KDE was assuming that 
the hardware clock was set to  GMT)

Todd

Richard Urwin wrote:



  The background is that MS sets the hardware clock in local time, whereas
*nix sets it to GMT and handles local time in software.

Actually I would be suprised if it was the BIOS, did you boot Windows at
some point? That would have changed the hardware clock. Since Windows
takes care of it, I don't see a BIOS manufacturer designing such a
feature. It would be wrong whatever OS you ran. If it was a feature of
the BIOS I would expect there to be an option to turn it off.

--
Richard Urwin, Private
"No 9000 series computer has ever made a mitsake or corrubiteddatatato."




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Richard Smith
Sent: 29 October 2002 11:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Clock settings


Todd Franklin wrote:

 

  
  
OK here's my problem:  Daylight savings time took effect the other 
night.  My BIOS seems to be capable of taking care of this itself.  
KDE did too.  So now my clock was 2 hrs behind.  I used the KDE time 
and Date configuration, and set it to the correct time CST (central 
standard time GMT-6) and then when I rebooted, kde reported time 6 
hours behind. In other words, KDE thinks the bios clock is set to 
GMT.  But in boot-up, linux reported the proper time.  So this time I 
set KDE to unspecified (UTC) and now the BIOS, KDE and Linux boot-up 
report the proper time.  However, Netscape mail tags all my messages 
in GMT.  Can somebody tell me the proper way to fix this problem.

Todd






   


  
  Possibly you don't haveKED - Control Center  -  System  -  Date+time
set
to your local ?

It ought to then read your system clock and adjust it,but somehow it
makes
little mistakes , so just alter it.
John

 



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[newbie] Clock settings

2002-10-29 Thread Todd Franklin
OK here's my problem:  Daylight savings time took effect the other 
night.  My BIOS seems to be capable of taking care of this itself.  KDE 
did too.  So now my clock was 2 hrs behind.  I used the KDE time and 
Date configuration, and set it to the correct time CST (central standard 
time GMT-6) and then when I rebooted, kde reported time 6 hours behind. 
In other words, KDE thinks the bios clock is set to GMT.  But in 
boot-up, linux reported the proper time.  So this time I set KDE to 
unspecified (UTC) and now the BIOS, KDE and Linux boot-up report the 
proper time.  However, Netscape mail tags all my messages in GMT.  Can 
somebody tell me the proper way to fix this problem.

Todd



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Re: [newbie] Clock settings

2002-10-29 Thread John Richard Smith
Todd Franklin wrote:


OK here's my problem:  Daylight savings time took effect the other 
night.  My BIOS seems to be capable of taking care of this itself.  
KDE did too.  So now my clock was 2 hrs behind.  I used the KDE time 
and Date configuration, and set it to the correct time CST (central 
standard time GMT-6) and then when I rebooted, kde reported time 6 
hours behind. In other words, KDE thinks the bios clock is set to 
GMT.  But in boot-up, linux reported the proper time.  So this time I 
set KDE to unspecified (UTC) and now the BIOS, KDE and Linux boot-up 
report the proper time.  However, Netscape mail tags all my messages 
in GMT.  Can somebody tell me the proper way to fix this problem.

Todd




 

Possibly you don't haveKED - Control Center  -  System  -  Date+time set
to your local ?

It ought to then read your system clock and adjust it,but somehow it makes
little mistakes , so just alter it.
John

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




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RE: [newbie] Clock settings

2002-10-29 Thread Richard Urwin
The background is that MS sets the hardware clock in local time, whereas
*nix sets it to GMT and handles local time in software.

Actually I would be suprised if it was the BIOS, did you boot Windows at
some point? That would have changed the hardware clock. Since Windows
takes care of it, I don't see a BIOS manufacturer designing such a
feature. It would be wrong whatever OS you ran. If it was a feature of
the BIOS I would expect there to be an option to turn it off.

--
Richard Urwin, Private
No 9000 series computer has ever made a mitsake or corrubiteddatatato.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of John Richard Smith
Sent: 29 October 2002 11:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Clock settings


Todd Franklin wrote:

 OK here's my problem:  Daylight savings time took effect the other 
 night.  My BIOS seems to be capable of taking care of this itself.  
 KDE did too.  So now my clock was 2 hrs behind.  I used the KDE time 
 and Date configuration, and set it to the correct time CST (central 
 standard time GMT-6) and then when I rebooted, kde reported time 6 
 hours behind. In other words, KDE thinks the bios clock is set to 
 GMT.  But in boot-up, linux reported the proper time.  So this time I 
 set KDE to unspecified (UTC) and now the BIOS, KDE and Linux boot-up 
 report the proper time.  However, Netscape mail tags all my messages 
 in GMT.  Can somebody tell me the proper way to fix this problem.

 Todd




  

Possibly you don't haveKED - Control Center  -  System  -  Date+time
set
to your local ?

It ought to then read your system clock and adjust it,but somehow it
makes
little mistakes , so just alter it.
John

-- 
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Re: [newbie] Clock settings

2002-10-29 Thread Todd Franklin




Maybe you're right. I never saw a setting in BIOS, but I'll check again.
I never did boot to windows. I only used win4lin. It was wierd because
I was up during the time change, and it worked fine. I actually left the
machine on and when I came back in the morning, it was 2 hrs behind. That's
when started messing with the kde clock settings and when I rebooted, the
time was 6hrs behind (like KDE was assuming that the hardware clock was set
to GMT)

Todd

Richard Urwin wrote:

  The background is that MS sets the hardware clock in local time, whereas
*nix sets it to GMT and handles local time in software.

Actually I would be suprised if it was the BIOS, did you boot Windows at
some point? That would have changed the hardware clock. Since Windows
takes care of it, I don't see a BIOS manufacturer designing such a
feature. It would be wrong whatever OS you ran. If it was a feature of
the BIOS I would expect there to be an option to turn it off.

--
Richard Urwin, Private
"No 9000 series computer has ever made a mitsake or corrubiteddatatato."




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Richard Smith
Sent: 29 October 2002 11:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Clock settings


Todd Franklin wrote:

  
  
OK here's my problem:  Daylight savings time took effect the other 
night.  My BIOS seems to be capable of taking care of this itself.  
KDE did too.  So now my clock was 2 hrs behind.  I used the KDE time 
and Date configuration, and set it to the correct time CST (central 
standard time GMT-6) and then when I rebooted, kde reported time 6 
hours behind. In other words, KDE thinks the bios clock is set to 
GMT.  But in boot-up, linux reported the proper time.  So this time I 
set KDE to unspecified (UTC) and now the BIOS, KDE and Linux boot-up 
report the proper time.  However, Netscape mail tags all my messages 
in GMT.  Can somebody tell me the proper way to fix this problem.

Todd




 


  
  Possibly you don't haveKED - Control Center  -  System  -  Date+time
set
to your local ?

It ought to then read your system clock and adjust it,but somehow it
makes
little mistakes , so just alter it.
John

  
  

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