Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 22:40, Dale Starr wrote: snip ### Start Message ### Your filesystem appears to be shutdown uncleanly Press Y within 4 seconds to force file system integrity check #So I press 'y' /dev/hda5: /lost+found not found. CREATED /dev/hda5: Optimizind Directories: 16350 48487 63105 79467 94847 111234 126216 126813 141986 (continues) /dev/hda5: * REBOOT LINUX * /dev/hda5: 63815/52416 files (0.3% non contiguous), 158268/504031 blocks Failed to check filesystem. Do you want to repair the errors? (Y/N) (beware you can lose data) ### END Message ### snip Dale, I have a PITA intermittent error on bootup which causes the monitor to go into irrecoverable standby before Xstartup. The only way I can get out of it is to re-boot, when I get : Your filesystem appears, etc. I press Y and usually it goes through checking and putting all the filesystems to right and then runs normally. (The filesystem is ext3). I *have* had exactly the same message as you once... **REBOOT LINUX** I re-booted straight away and the re-boot went back to the usual Your filesystem appears but then carried on and corrected whatever needed correcting and ran normally. However, what appears to happen is that the journalling system reverts you to a previous state of the system (??the last one that worked - don't know).As far as I can tell there don't seem to be any fragments or rubbish laying around that need clearing up manually. Hope this helps. DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
Uninteruptible Power Supply João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: Thanks for the answer Paul... but, what UPS means? I mean, what is UPS ;) From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:52:41 +0200 Hi João, If you experience power outs more often, I think that getting a UPS is better than changing FS. I use EXT3 also, which has so far not failed me. I am satisfied with it. Paul On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 19:51, João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: I got this twice, as I was using linux and got a blackout. When I turned on the system again, it gave me this message, then I wanted to repair the errors. When the boot was complete, I got many erros. One of them, i couldnt start X. Some /usr/bin commands where lost, and some other files where lost too. Then, without knowledge enough to repair file to file, and without time to do so, I reinstalled my mdk system. Finished the install, another blackout, and the same problem. Reinstall again. So, should I use another FS? Is there any FS better in all ways (performance, confiability)? -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do Brasil. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
I live in the boon docks. Frequent power loss, generally only a fraction of a second to 5 seconds at best. UPS flawless for about 3 years now APS brand, the low power one, only about $70.00 Has handled two boxes, one monitor. On Monday 11 August 2003 05:21 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 11 August 2003 12:51 pm, João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: I got this twice, as I was using linux and got a blackout. When I turned on the system again, it gave me this message, then I wanted to repair the errors. When the boot was complete, I got many erros. One of them, i couldnt start X. Some /usr/bin commands where lost, and some other files where lost too. Then, without knowledge enough to repair file to file, and without time to do so, I reinstalled my mdk system. Finished the install, another blackout, and the same problem. Reinstall again. So, should I use another FS? Is there any FS better in all ways (performance, confiability)? Thanks - Original Message - From: Dale Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:40 PM Subject: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem Hi, I was hoping that someone could help me with this question. I have a redhat box as a fileserver I was just wondering something about the EXT3 filesystem (or maybe them all in general). After a power outage, the machine started up with the following error ### Start Message ### Your filesystem appears to be shutdown uncleanly Press Y within 4 seconds to force file system integrity check #So I press 'y' /dev/hda5: /lost+found not found. CREATED /dev/hda5: Optimizind Directories: 16350 48487 63105 79467 94847 111234 126216 126813 141986 (continues) /dev/hda5: * REBOOT LINUX * /dev/hda5: 63815/52416 files (0.3% non contiguous), 158268/504031 blocks Failed to check filesystem. Do you want to repair the errors? (Y/N) (beware you can lose data) ### END Message ### When I select yes, I was just wondering how after it does the checks and fixes the errors I can see what its done. If a file got corrupted during the shutdown and it wasn't able to be repaired (through the journal, etc...) how would I know what files were affected so I could manually remove/fix them so that I dont have corrupted files lying around? Is there a log of some sort ? Thank you in advance for your help. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - -- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Same here, so last time I loaded with reiserFS and have had no problem since. That was a couple of months ago. We have had at least two outages since then. I get them so fast that the ups doesn't have time to kick in but the computer reboots. It is just a flash with the sound of the Ventilation motor kicking and no real timespan. My ups is supposed to be 3ns but I don't have any idea if that is accurate. Sometimes when it goes off and stays off for several minutes I have time to halt and ups works as promised. Digression, back to the subject, reiserFS does not seem to loose any files under the described conditions. HTH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
Hi, I was hoping that someone could help me with this question. I have a redhat box as a fileserver I was just wondering something about the EXT3 filesystem (or maybe them all in general). After a power outage, the machine started up with the following error ### Start Message ### Your filesystem appears to be shutdown uncleanly Press Y within 4 seconds to force file system integrity check #So I press 'y' /dev/hda5: /lost+found not found. CREATED /dev/hda5: Optimizind Directories: 16350 48487 63105 79467 94847 111234 126216 126813 141986 (continues) /dev/hda5: * REBOOT LINUX * /dev/hda5: 63815/52416 files (0.3% non contiguous), 158268/504031 blocks Failed to check filesystem. Do you want to repair the errors? (Y/N) (beware you can lose data) ### END Message ### When I select yes, I was just wondering how after it does the checks and fixes the errors I can see what its done. If a file got corrupted during the shutdown and it wasn't able to be repaired (through the journal, etc...) how would I know what files were affected so I could manually remove/fix them so that I dont have corrupted files lying around? Is there a log of some sort? Thank you in advance for your help. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
A UPS will supply electricity even if the city power goes off, for several minutes, enough to do a proper shut down... On Monday 11 August 2003 06:26 pm, João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: Disconsider my previus email please. But I'll surelly buy a UPS to me, but what if my system locks, forcing me to make a force reboot or power down? I think the same problem should happen, and there goes my files! :P From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:52:41 +0200 Hi João, If you experience power outs more often, I think that getting a UPS is better than changing FS. I use EXT3 also, which has so far not failed me. I am satisfied with it. Paul On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 19:51, João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: I got this twice, as I was using linux and got a blackout. When I turned on the system again, it gave me this message, then I wanted to repair the errors. When the boot was complete, I got many erros. One of them, i couldnt start X. Some /usr/bin commands where lost, and some other files where lost too. Then, without knowledge enough to repair file to file, and without time to do so, I reinstalled my mdk system. Finished the install, another blackout, and the same problem. Reinstall again. So, should I use another FS? Is there any FS better in all ways (performance, confiability)? -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do Brasil. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
I got this twice, as I was using linux and got a blackout. When I turned on the system again, it gave me this message, then I wanted to repair the errors. When the boot was complete, I got many erros. One of them, i couldnt start X. Some /usr/bin commands where lost, and some other files where lost too. Then, without knowledge enough to repair file to file, and without time to do so, I reinstalled my mdk system. Finished the install, another blackout, and the same problem. Reinstall again. So, should I use another FS? Is there any FS better in all ways (performance, confiability)? Thanks - Original Message - From: Dale Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:40 PM Subject: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem Hi, I was hoping that someone could help me with this question. I have a redhat box as a fileserver I was just wondering something about the EXT3 filesystem (or maybe them all in general). After a power outage, the machine started up with the following error ### Start Message ### Your filesystem appears to be shutdown uncleanly Press Y within 4 seconds to force file system integrity check #So I press 'y' /dev/hda5: /lost+found not found. CREATED /dev/hda5: Optimizind Directories: 16350 48487 63105 79467 94847 111234 126216 126813 141986 (continues) /dev/hda5: * REBOOT LINUX * /dev/hda5: 63815/52416 files (0.3% non contiguous), 158268/504031 blocks Failed to check filesystem. Do you want to repair the errors? (Y/N) (beware you can lose data) ### END Message ### When I select yes, I was just wondering how after it does the checks and fixes the errors I can see what its done. If a file got corrupted during the shutdown and it wasn't able to be repaired (through the journal, etc...) how would I know what files were affected so I could manually remove/fix them so that I dont have corrupted files lying around? Is there a log of some sort ? Thank you in advance for your help. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
I had some problems like this with ext3 so I switched to reiserFS. So far 2 day so good. -Original Message- From: João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem I got this twice, as I was using linux and got a blackout. When I turned on the system again, it gave me this message, then I wanted to repair the errors. When the boot was complete, I got many erros. One of them, i couldnt start X. Some /usr/bin commands where lost, and some other files where lost too. Then, without knowledge enough to repair file to file, and without time to do so, I reinstalled my mdk system. Finished the install, another blackout, and the same problem. Reinstall again. So, should I use another FS? Is there any FS better in all ways (performance, confiability)? Thanks - Original Message - From: Dale Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:40 PM Subject: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem Hi, I was hoping that someone could help me with this question. I have a redhat box as a fileserver I was just wondering something about the EXT3 filesystem (or maybe them all in general). After a power outage, the machine started up with the following error ### Start Message ### Your filesystem appears to be shutdown uncleanly Press Y within 4 seconds to force file system integrity check #So I press 'y' /dev/hda5: /lost+found not found. CREATED /dev/hda5: Optimizind Directories: 16350 48487 63105 79467 94847 111234 126216 126813 141986 (continues) /dev/hda5: * REBOOT LINUX * /dev/hda5: 63815/52416 files (0.3% non contiguous), 158268/504031 blocks Failed to check filesystem. Do you want to repair the errors? (Y/N) (beware you can lose data) ### END Message ### When I select yes, I was just wondering how after it does the checks and fixes the errors I can see what its done. If a file got corrupted during the shutdown and it wasn't able to be repaired (through the journal, etc...) how would I know what files were affected so I could manually remove/fix them so that I dont have corrupted files lying around? Is there a log of some sort ? Thank you in advance for your help. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
Hi João, If you experience power outs more often, I think that getting a UPS is better than changing FS. I use EXT3 also, which has so far not failed me. I am satisfied with it. Paul On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 19:51, João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: I got this twice, as I was using linux and got a blackout. When I turned on the system again, it gave me this message, then I wanted to repair the errors. When the boot was complete, I got many erros. One of them, i couldnt start X. Some /usr/bin commands where lost, and some other files where lost too. Then, without knowledge enough to repair file to file, and without time to do so, I reinstalled my mdk system. Finished the install, another blackout, and the same problem. Reinstall again. So, should I use another FS? Is there any FS better in all ways (performance, confiability)? -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 03:51, João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: I got this twice, as I was using linux and got a blackout. When I turned on the system again, it gave me this message, then I wanted to repair the errors. When the boot was complete, I got many erros. One of them, i couldnt start X. Some /usr/bin commands where lost, and some other files where lost too. Then, without knowledge enough to repair file to file, and without time to do so, I reinstalled my mdk system. Finished the install, another blackout, and the same problem. Reinstall again. So, should I use another FS? Is there any FS better in all ways (performance, confiability)? Thanks ReiserFS. End of story. -- Tue Aug 12 09:04:59 EST 2003 09:04:59 up 8 days, 12:53, 1 user, load average: 1.07, 1.20, 1.17 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * HP had a unique policy of allowing its engineers to take parts from stock as long as they built something. They figured that with every design, they were getting a better engineer. It's a policy I urge all companies to adopt. -- Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, Will Wozniak's class give Apple to teacher? EE Times, June 6, 1988, pg 45 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
Thanks for the answer Paul... but, what UPS means? I mean, what is UPS ;) From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:52:41 +0200 Hi João, If you experience power outs more often, I think that getting a UPS is better than changing FS. I use EXT3 also, which has so far not failed me. I am satisfied with it. Paul On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 19:51, João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: I got this twice, as I was using linux and got a blackout. When I turned on the system again, it gave me this message, then I wanted to repair the errors. When the boot was complete, I got many erros. One of them, i couldnt start X. Some /usr/bin commands where lost, and some other files where lost too. Then, without knowledge enough to repair file to file, and without time to do so, I reinstalled my mdk system. Finished the install, another blackout, and the same problem. Reinstall again. So, should I use another FS? Is there any FS better in all ways (performance, confiability)? -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do Brasil. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
On Thursday 07 August 2003 02:40 pm, Dale Starr wrote: Hi, I was hoping that someone could help me with this question. I have a redhat box as a fileserver I was just wondering something about the EXT3 filesystem (or maybe them all in general). After a power outage, the machine started up with the following error ### Start Message ### I got this message with my Mandrake 9.0 and 9.1 systems. And I seemed to have damage at every reboot. I even went so far as to buy another drive. Then when that choked, I realized it must be EXT3 acting up. I went to ReiserFS and have not had a problem in many months of running. The way linux should be. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
