Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 12:15, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 20:53, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 23:22, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 04:12, Tom Brinkman wrote: Partitions can be shrunk. So can heads. Stephen, It was actually the first, rather than the second, I was interested in. But I haven't noticed the linux head-shrinking program in MD9.1 - where can I find it? In cooker? DougB Joe Hill uses it. Seems to work well enough. We need to ask him what commands he issues to resolve the issue. Naughty, naughty! DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 12:15, ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 06:53, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 23:22, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 04:12, Tom Brinkman wrote: Partitions can be shrunk. So can heads. Stephen, It was actually the first, rather than the second, I was interested in. But I haven't noticed the linux head-shrinking program in MD9.1 - where can I find it? In cooker? DougB Careful with the answer Stephen,(be sure to include a disclaimer) IANL, but Douglas is. G Disclaimer; This mail was not created using any Microsoft products, including, but not limited to; Fonts, OS, Office Suites, Virus Transport Agents, and Hardware. This mail was intended for the interest of anyone it was intended for. if this is not you, then why the heck are you reading this? UNDER PENALTY of LAW!!! Do not remove this tag. Watch it! I'm taking advice from SCO DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 09:27, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 12:15, ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 06:53, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 23:22, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 04:12, Tom Brinkman wrote: Partitions can be shrunk. So can heads. Stephen, It was actually the first, rather than the second, I was interested in. But I haven't noticed the linux head-shrinking program in MD9.1 - where can I find it? In cooker? DougB Careful with the answer Stephen,(be sure to include a disclaimer) IANL, but Douglas is. G *** That'll be $1399 USD please Disclaimer; This mail was not created using any Microsoft products, including, but not limited to; Fonts, OS, Office Suites, Virus Transport Agents, and Hardware. This mail was intended for the interest of anyone it was intended for. if this is not you, then why the heck are you reading this? UNDER PENALTY of LAW!!! Do not remove this tag. Watch it! I'm taking advice from SCO DougB __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:12:58 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Partitions can be shrunk. The tool would depend on the FS. BUT you'd still need to backup all data, 'cause it's a risky business. Better to delete partitions and re-create them. In Douglas' case this is necessary since they need to be re-formatted anyhow. I am using Ext3, so what tool would I use? Would this tool allow me to simultaneously, or otherwise, shrink the / partition and *grow* the /home partition? ...and don't worry, I back everything up all the time, just cuz I'm usin a Maxtor ;-) As always, thanks Tom. -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
MD9.1. Two queries: Is it possible to convert ext3 to Reiser FS in place? If not and you had to convert by re-installing the system, would there be any way of transferring or copying an ext3 /home into the new Reiser system ? Can you shrink partitions in place? I'm wondering about creating separate partitions for /boot and /var. Could you give me advice about appropriate sizes for those mount points? TIA DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
On Wednesday August 13 2003 10:35 am, Haywiremac wrote: On 13 Aug 2003 12:27:37 +0100 Douglas Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Can you shrink partitions in place? actually, I am curious about this myself. I stupidly divided my 60 GB drive into 30/30 for / and /home, but I would now like to shrink the / partition since I need nowhere near 30 GB for the system. any thoughts Tom? I don't see any options in MCC for this... Partitions can be shrunk. The tool would depend on the FS. BUT you'd still need to backup all data, 'cause it's a risky business. Better to delete partitions and re-create them. In Douglas' case this is necessary since they need to be re-formatted anyhow. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 04:12, Tom Brinkman wrote: Partitions can be shrunk. So can heads. -- Thu Aug 14 08:20:01 EST 2003 08:20:01 up 10 days, 12:08, 1 user, load average: 1.35, 1.38, 1.45 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * He did decide, though, that with more time and a great deal of mental effort, he could probably turn the activity into an acceptable perversion. -- Mick Farren, When Gravity Fails Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
On Wednesday August 13 2003 02:56 pm, Haywiremac wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:12:58 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Partitions can be shrunk. The tool would depend on the FS. BUT you'd still need to backup all data, 'cause it's a risky business. Better to delete partitions and re-create them. In Douglas' case this is necessary since they need to be re-formatted anyhow. I am using Ext3, so what tool would I use? Would this tool allow me to simultaneously, or otherwise, shrink the / partition and *grow* the /home partition? ...and don't worry, I back everything up all the time, just cuz I'm usin a Maxtor ;-) parted, fips, some commercial ones http://www.google.com/search?q=ext3%20shrink%20partitionie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8 Returned quite a few hits. As I alluded to before tho, I'd delete existing partitions and re-create 'em. Specially since you can replace from backup. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 20:53, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 23:22, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 04:12, Tom Brinkman wrote: Partitions can be shrunk. So can heads. Stephen, It was actually the first, rather than the second, I was interested in. But I haven't noticed the linux head-shrinking program in MD9.1 - where can I find it? In cooker? DougB Joe Hill uses it. Seems to work well enough. We need to ask him what commands he issues to resolve the issue. -- Thu Aug 14 21:10:01 EST 2003 21:10:01 up 11 days, 58 min, 1 user, load average: 1.91, 1.95, 1.81 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * When a cow laughs, does milk come out of its nose? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 01:35, Haywiremac wrote: On 13 Aug 2003 12:27:37 +0100 Douglas Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Can you shrink partitions in place? actually, I am curious about this myself. I stupidly divided my 60 GB drive into 30/30 for / and /home, but I would now like to shrink the / partition since I need nowhere near 30 GB for the system. any thoughts Tom? I don't see any options in MCC for this... After this week, I'm so damn sick of partitions - I would just assume take an entire damn drive and make it a single partition for a single use - and even go so far as to create a RAID-0/RAID-1 if I had more. -- Thu Aug 14 08:10:01 EST 2003 08:10:01 up 10 days, 11:58, 1 user, load average: 1.45, 1.34, 1.52 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * It's a lot of fun being alive ... I wonder if my bed is made?!? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
On Wednesday August 13 2003 06:27 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: MD9.1. Two queries: Is it possible to convert ext3 to Reiser FS in place? No If not and you had to convert by re-installing the system, would there be any way of transferring or copying an ext3 /home into the new Reiser system ? Copy your user directory from /home to a storage partition. You do have one don't ya? After re-installing the system on ReiserFS, you can copy it back to /home, overwriting the user dir the install created. Any filesystem for the storage partition is suitable, but if you copy it to a Windoze partition, tar it up first to preserve permissions. Can you shrink partitions in place? I'm wondering about creating separate partitions for /boot and /var. Could you give me advice about appropriate sizes for those mount points? For /boot 20 mb is enough. Use 50 mb if you like to try a lot of new kernels. Use ReiserFS for all other partitions, but use ext3 for /boot **. For /var, do a 'du /var' to see how big it is now, then allow for some room. How much? I dunno. I've never made /var a separate partition. For most desktop users, /swap, /boot, /, and /home are all that's needed for a flexible system. There's no need to shrink existing partitions. Just delete them when you do the install, and make new partitions. You'll need to reformat anyhow to change to ReiserFS. .. ** Why, I dunno, but Civileme suggested it when ReiserFS or XFS is used for all other partitions. Civileme did extensive FS testing while he was a Mandrake employee. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 18:14, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 01:35, Haywiremac wrote: On 13 Aug 2003 12:27:37 +0100 Douglas Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Can you shrink partitions in place? actually, I am curious about this myself. I stupidly divided my 60 GB drive into 30/30 for / and /home, but I would now like to shrink the / partition since I need nowhere near 30 GB for the system. any thoughts Tom? I don't see any options in MCC for this... After this week, I'm so damn sick of partitions - I would just assume take an entire damn drive and make it a single partition for a single use - and even go so far as to create a RAID-0/RAID-1 if I had more. from the i love M$,, they make so much more work for me voice of sanity?? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FS conversion/Partition resizing
On 13 Aug 2003 12:27:37 +0100 Douglas Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Can you shrink partitions in place? actually, I am curious about this myself. I stupidly divided my 60 GB drive into 30/30 for / and /home, but I would now like to shrink the / partition since I need nowhere near 30 GB for the system. any thoughts Tom? I don't see any options in MCC for this... -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
