Re: [newbie] Font Questions
Jamie wrote: This might sound a bit stupid but have you read through the how-to's? The should be a load installed on your system under /usr/doc/how-to/, and im sure i saw one about extended charecters on your keyboard. Yes, I've looked. I printed out the entire Font How-To, read the DeUglification How-To, and searched over the Internet, on MandrakeForum, and looked through the indexes of about 20 Linux books in Barnes and Noble. The only book that had *anything* about extended character sets was Peter Norton's, and what it had wasn't helpful. Also, given that there are character maps for both Gnome and KDE, you would expect that if you could select an extended character from the keyboard, you'd see the keyboard selector keys somewhere on the character map as you do with Character Map in Windows. But there are no keyboard equivalents in the Gnome and K character maps. You have to highlight the desired character, copy it to the clipboard, and paste into your application. This is wildly impractical. Even worse, only the characters in Latin1 (ISO-8859-1) are shown in the character maps, so you CAN'T copy and paste such basic characters is a true apostrophe, typographic opening and closing quotation marks, em and en dashes, bullets, and true fractions for 1/4 and 3/4 into your application. If you have to copy and paste, obviously you can't use a character that doesn't appear in the character map. im sure i saw one about extended charecters on your keyboard. Sorry, i cant remember the name of the document. If by any chance you find it, I would be most grateful if you'd post a message with its name and location. --Judy Miner
Re: [newbie] Font Questions
Civileme wrote: Well, you need an international keyboard. Go to Mandrake Control Center--Hàrdwárë--Keyboard Sélèct U S International Close Mandrake Contröl Center. Now you will find some keys appear to be dead. ` ' for example. They must be typed twice. If you type them once, then they combine with the ñéxt çharacter you type. Thank you for answering. But-- That's it That's all Linux offers me? What about characters that aren't on the keyboard at all, such as a cedille? What about true apostrophes, true quotation marks, bullets, em dashes, en dashes, fractions? These are such basic necessities that I don't understand how a modern operating system could leave them unavailable to users. --Judy Miner
RE: [newbie] Font Questions
This might sound a bit stupid but have you read through the how-to's? The should be a load installed on your system under /usr/doc/how-to/, and im sure i saw one about extended charecters on your keyboard. Sorry, i cant remember the name of the document. -- From: Judith Miner[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 July 2001 15:40 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Font Questions Civileme wrote: Well, you need an international keyboard. Go to Mandrake Control Center--Hàrdwárë--Keyboard Sélèct U S International Close Mandrake Contröl Center. Now you will find some keys appear to be dead. ` ' for example. They must be typed twice. If you type them once, then they combine with the ñéxt çharacter you type. Thank you for answering. But-- That's it That's all Linux offers me? What about characters that aren't on the keyboard at all, such as a cedille? What about true apostrophes, true quotation marks, bullets, em dashes, en dashes, fractions? These are such basic necessities that I don't understand how a modern operating system could leave them unavailable to users. --Judy Miner _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.
[newbie] Font Questions
I have searched all the font How-To's and online sites I could find and cannot find the answer to this question. Can anyone help? How do you enter nonkeyboard characters into something like KWord? By nonkeyboard characters, I mean accented letters, fractions, em dashes, bullets. true typographic apostrophes and quotation marks, opening single quotation marks, and so forth. In Windows you hold down Alt and type the character code number and you see the character on screen and in your printed output. What do you do in X, KDE, and Gnome? I know about the character maps for KDE and Gnome, but click and copy is a completely impractical way to deal with extended characters. Surely there must be ways to type extended characters on the keyboard. I think it's passing strange that NOWHERE does any documentation mention this. Moreover, I looked through the entire Linux book section at Barnes and Noble and not one book had such a thing indexed. Even the 1600-page monsters had exhaustive sections on networks, consoles, Emacs, kernel building, yada-yada, but NOTHING WHATEVER on how to get a damn extended character typed!! Related question: how do you get a character set other than ISO-8859-1? That set is useless for document creation because it does not include essential typographic characters such as true quotation marks and true apostrophes. Without these characters, letters, reports, and other documents look amateurish and ugly. Surely there must be some way to get a proper character set in Linux. I do have my own Type 1 fonts and some TrueTypes installed and they are showing up--except not yet in StarOffice or WordPerfect. I am also in process of trying to dump the fonts that came with the system that I don't want. I have TrueTypes for screen display, but I prefer to use Type 1 for creating and printing documents. StarOffice includes directions for getting more fonts into it. The downloadable version of WordPerfect 8 apparently does not include the font installer utility, so you seem to be limited to the fonts that come with the program. If that is the case, I'll remove it from my system. Worthless! Answers to my questions most gratefully received! --Judy Miner
