Re: [newbie] Free ISPs Compatible With Linux

2000-08-22 Thread Goldenpi

Oh, now I see. I have used numerous isps, but the closest I have come to
that is bt internet. They insist on giveing out an exe which is used to
connect, so people cant copy there dun setting onto another system. It
doesn't work. I connect on linux fine with it.

- Original Message -
From: Anthony [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Free ISPs Compatible With Linux


 The key word in this discussion is "Free". Regular ISP's work just fine,
but
 free one's usually require you to run a .exe that displays ads while your
 connected. And since they don't make a Linux version of those ad programs,
you
 can't connect to the free ISP.

  I dont know what all this fuss is about, unless us isps work differently
  than uk. All I had to do was enter the phone number, username, password,
dns
  and a few other things to get both my isps going on linux. apart from
aol,
  compuserve and msn, most isps should work with linux. The isp doesn't
know
  what os is connecting to it. What is this about?

 --
 Anthony
 http://binaryfusion.net
 Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.






Re: [newbie] Free ISPs Compatible With Linux

2000-08-21 Thread poogle

Seems to work differently in the UK, most "Free" ISP's cost money. i.e you
pay a fixed rate for unmetered access, say £10 per month and are allowed to
access what I suppose in the US you call a toll free number.
It's very much in it's infancy here, ISP's are starting up and closing down,
then re-opening with new rules such as cut-off times after a period of
connection, no on-line gaming etc. 
I believe some of them use ads in IE but as I connect from Linux I don't
really know.
I think the main difference is in the way US  UK operate, historically we
only had British Telecom (now BT) who charged for line rental and all calls
both local and long distance, we now have 2 major ones and a number of smaller
ones. I understand (possibly incorrectly) that in the US there are a number of
telco's and the model is pay for the service and get local calls free.
Apart from AOL etc when the internet began to take off in the UK a number of
"Free" ISP's started up, the meaning of "Free" was that you didn't pay for the
service as you did with AOL, Compuserve etc, but you did pay for calls to a
local rate number. Now we have Unmetered Access which is not "Free" , with these
services you pay a fixed rate to the ISP but don't pay for the cost of the
call.  
And then there is Surftime from BT which means you pay BT a fixed fee for
unmetered access and connect through an ISP who participates in the scheme
and may or may not charge for the service.
I hope someone out there understands this  - I'm confused now 
Poogle 

On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, you wrote:
 The key word in this discussion is "Free". Regular ISP's work just fine, but
 free one's usually require you to run a .exe that displays ads while your
 connected. And since they don't make a Linux version of those ad programs, you
 can't connect to the free ISP. 
 
  I dont know what all this fuss is about, unless us isps work differently
  than uk. All I had to do was enter the phone number, username, password, dns
  and a few other things to get both my isps going on linux. apart from aol,
  compuserve and msn, most isps should work with linux. The isp doesn't know
  what os is connecting to it. What is this about?
 
 -- 
 Anthony
 http://binaryfusion.net
 Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.





Re: [newbie] Free ISPs Compatible With Linux

2000-08-21 Thread Lance Dow

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Seems to work differently in the UK, most "Free" ISP's cost money. i.e you
 pay a fixed rate for unmetered access, say £10 per month and are allowed to
 access what I suppose in the US you call a toll free number.

I think you're confusing two things here. To the best of my knowledge, ALL free ISPs
are actually free, i.e. you don't pay to use their service, but you pay for the
phone call to access the service.

Unmetered access is where you don't pay for the phone call. Some unmetered services
are provided free of charge, some you pay a monthly subscription.

You actually explained this towards the end of your post. Maybe you should have
started at that end :-).

Regards

Lance







Re: [newbie] Free ISPs Compatible With Linux

2000-08-20 Thread Anthony

The key word in this discussion is "Free". Regular ISP's work just fine, but
free one's usually require you to run a .exe that displays ads while your
connected. And since they don't make a Linux version of those ad programs, you
can't connect to the free ISP. 

 I dont know what all this fuss is about, unless us isps work differently
 than uk. All I had to do was enter the phone number, username, password, dns
 and a few other things to get both my isps going on linux. apart from aol,
 compuserve and msn, most isps should work with linux. The isp doesn't know
 what os is connecting to it. What is this about?

-- 
Anthony
http://binaryfusion.net
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 




[newbie] Free ISPs Compatible With Linux

2000-08-20 Thread Andrew Bartorillo

Does anyone know of any free ISP's that offer versions of their software that
are Linux compatible?

I presently use Yahoo's Blue Light but the only version of their software that
is available is for Windoze.

Any help would be appreciated.

--Drew--



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Re: [newbie] Free ISPs Compatible With Linux

2000-08-20 Thread Mark Weaver

Andrew Bartorillo wrote:
 
 Does anyone know of any free ISP's that offer versions of their software that
 are Linux compatible?
 
 I presently use Yahoo's Blue Light but the only version of their software that
 is available is for Windoze.
 
 Any help would be appreciated.
 
 --Drew--
 
 
 Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

Drew,

you may want to search the nebie list archives on this subject. I seem
to remember something on this going around the list a few weeks ago.

Mark




Re: [newbie] Free ISPs Compatible With Linux

2000-08-20 Thread Goldenpi

I dont know what all this fuss is about, unless us isps work differently
than uk. All I had to do was enter the phone number, username, password, dns
and a few other things to get both my isps going on linux. apart from aol,
compuserve and msn, most isps should work with linux. The isp doesn't know
what os is connecting to it. What is this about?
- Original Message -
From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Free ISPs Compatible With Linux


 Andrew Bartorillo wrote:
 
  Does anyone know of any free ISP's that offer versions of their software
that
  are Linux compatible?
 
  I presently use Yahoo's Blue Light but the only version of their
software that
  is available is for Windoze.
 
  Any help would be appreciated.
 
  --Drew--
 
  
  Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

 Drew,

 you may want to search the nebie list archives on this subject. I seem
 to remember something on this going around the list a few weeks ago.

 Mark