[newbie] Frozen blue screen after upgrading kernel
This past week I worked on updating my Mandrake box from 10.0 to 10.1. Most of the application programs went well. The change over of the kernel took a bit more coaching for me from another Linux person but I got it to work (as far as I can tell). However, on the X system, all I get is a blue screen. The cursor (a plus sign with white edges) moves around but there are absolutely NO icons on the screen and no keystrokes work at all. This is even after running XFdrake (which did seem to do a bunch of configuring) and checking some things.with mcc at the prompt. The only way I got to a prompt has been through booting on Failsafe. Even another lilo entry of 2.6.3 raced to the blue screen and froze. I have been able to change it so that it now stops at the command line (whew!) so at least the machine can take commands. I still am relatively new to Linux and have a long ways to go. Since my field of specialty is in web work, I cannot work without a proper gui screen and browser. The system worked just fine under 10.0. What recommendations do you have? Mr. hopeful, Bill Mudry Mississauga, Ontario Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Frozen blue screen after upgrading kernel
On Tuesday 01 Feb 2005 16:36, Bill Mudry wrote: This past week I worked on updating my Mandrake box from 10.0 to 10.1. Most of the application programs went well. The change over of the kernel took a bit more coaching for me from another Linux person but I got it to work (as far as I can tell). However, on the X system, all I get is a blue screen. The cursor (a plus sign with white edges) moves around but there are absolutely NO icons on the screen and no keystrokes work at all. This is even after running XFdrake (which did seem to do a bunch of configuring) and checking some things.with mcc at the prompt. The only way I got to a prompt has been through booting on Failsafe. Even another lilo entry of 2.6.3 raced to the blue screen and froze. I have been able to change it so that it now stops at the command line (whew!) so at least the machine can take commands. I still am relatively new to Linux and have a long ways to go. Since my field of specialty is in web work, I cannot work without a proper gui screen and browser. The system worked just fine under 10.0. What recommendations do you have? How long did you wait? I upgraded my daughter's pc to 10.1 from 10 and on bootup, it did the same. I left it for apprx. 10 minutes, then the graphical login appeared. Never did it again, so might just be configuring? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Frozen blue screen after upgrading kernel
At 01:02 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: On Tuesday 01 Feb 2005 16:36, Bill Mudry wrote: This past week I worked on updating my Mandrake box from 10.0 to 10.1. Most of the application programs went well. The change over of the kernel took a bit more coaching for me from another Linux person but I got it to work (as far as I can tell). However, on the X system, all I get is a blue screen. The cursor (a plus sign with white edges) moves around but there are absolutely NO icons on the screen and no keystrokes work at all. This is even after running XFdrake (which did seem to do a bunch of configuring) and checking some things.with mcc at the prompt. The only way I got to a prompt has been through booting on Failsafe. Even another lilo entry of 2.6.3 raced to the blue screen and froze. I have been able to change it so that it now stops at the command line (whew!) so at least the machine can take commands. I still am relatively new to Linux and have a long ways to go. Since my field of specialty is in web work, I cannot work without a proper gui screen and browser. The system worked just fine under 10.0. What recommendations do you have? How long did you wait? I upgraded my daughter's pc to 10.1 from 10 and on bootup, it did the same. I left it for apprx. 10 minutes, then the graphical login appeared. Never did it again, so might just be configuring? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free I waited for some time actually. There is always some chance that I should have waited longer but I have doubts. Meanwhile, I went back into XFdrake and was able to up the resolution to 1280 x 1024. Its what I prefer anyway. The test showed that the card and monitor (Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 17x) can support this resolution. When I put in startx at the prompt, I got an interesting change. The screen went blue again but only for 1 second or so. Then it changed to a bright red with the cursor still in the middle. It stayed that way for a few seconds and then dropped down to the prompt again. The screen reported the following error: Failed to load module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (once-only module, 135962511) Something is still keeping it from proceeding further to where all icons come up. How essential is that file? What does it do? Any further suggestions? Still hopeful :-) Bill Mudry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Frozen blue screen after upgrading kernel
Bill Mudry wrote: At 01:02 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: On Tuesday 01 Feb 2005 16:36, Bill Mudry wrote: This past week I worked on updating my Mandrake box from 10.0 to 10.1. Most of the application programs went well. The change over of the kernel took a bit more coaching for me from another Linux person but I got it to work (as far as I can tell). However, on the X system, all I get is a blue screen. The cursor (a plus sign with white edges) moves around but there are absolutely NO icons on the screen and no keystrokes work at all. This is even after running XFdrake (which did seem to do a bunch of configuring) and checking some things.with mcc at the prompt. The only way I got to a prompt has been through booting on Failsafe. Even another lilo entry of 2.6.3 raced to the blue screen and froze. I have been able to change it so that it now stops at the command line (whew!) so at least the machine can take commands. I still am relatively new to Linux and have a long ways to go. Since my field of specialty is in web work, I cannot work without a proper gui screen and browser. The system worked just fine under 10.0. What recommendations do you have? How long did you wait? I upgraded my daughter's pc to 10.1 from 10 and on bootup, it did the same. I left it for apprx. 10 minutes, then the graphical login appeared. Never did it again, so might just be configuring? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free I waited for some time actually. There is always some chance that I should have waited longer but I have doubts. Meanwhile, I went back into XFdrake and was able to up the resolution to 1280 x 1024. Its what I prefer anyway. The test showed that the card and monitor (Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 17x) can support this resolution. When I put in startx at the prompt, I got an interesting change. The screen went blue again but only for 1 second or so. Then it changed to a bright red with the cursor still in the middle. It stayed that way for a few seconds and then dropped down to the prompt again. The screen reported the following error: Failed to load module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (once-only module, 135962511) Something is still keeping it from proceeding further to where all icons come up. How essential is that file? What does it do? Any further suggestions? Still hopeful :-) Bill Mudry Bill; Change to the vesa driver we spoke about yesterday. You don't have a 3D driver installed at this point and X is trying to load one because it's detecting your GeForce card. Right now, that system doesn't have the horsepower to support 3D graphics, but you should be able to get your desktop and decent graphics using the vesa driver. By the way, did you manage to find out which video card you have in that system? -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Frozen blue screen after upgrading kernel
At 05:56 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: Bill Mudry wrote: At 01:02 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: Cut for brevity :-) I waited for some time actually. There is always some chance that I should have waited longer but I have doubts. Meanwhile, I went back into XFdrake and was able to up the resolution to 1280 x 1024. Its what I prefer anyway. The test showed that the card and monitor (Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 17x) can support this resolution. When I put in startx at the prompt, I got an interesting change. The screen went blue again but only for 1 second or so. Then it changed to a bright red with the cursor still in the middle. It stayed that way for a few seconds and then dropped down to the prompt again. The screen reported the following error: Failed to load module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (once-only module, 135962511) Something is still keeping it from proceeding further to where all icons come up. How essential is that file? What does it do? Any further suggestions? Still hopeful :-) Bill Mudry Bill; Change to the vesa driver we spoke about yesterday. You don't have a 3D driver installed at this point and X is trying to load one because it's detecting your GeForce card. Right now, that system doesn't have the horsepower to support 3D graphics, but you should be able to get your desktop and decent graphics using the vesa driver. By the way, did you manage to find out which video card you have in that system? The card is an ATI Mach64 3D Rage IIC. It has a Rage IIC chip. It is 1998 vintage. Doesn't that 3D mean that it, instead, should support 3D? Where do I go, what do I do to put it into Vesa? Since this may very well be a 3D card, should I still by trying out Vesa? One step closer, still hopeful ;-) Bill -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Frozen blue screen after upgrading kernel
Bill Mudry wrote: At 05:56 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: Bill Mudry wrote: At 01:02 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: Cut for brevity :-) I waited for some time actually. There is always some chance that I should have waited longer but I have doubts. Meanwhile, I went back into XFdrake and was able to up the resolution to 1280 x 1024. Its what I prefer anyway. The test showed that the card and monitor (Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 17x) can support this resolution. When I put in startx at the prompt, I got an interesting change. The screen went blue again but only for 1 second or so. Then it changed to a bright red with the cursor still in the middle. It stayed that way for a few seconds and then dropped down to the prompt again. The screen reported the following error: Failed to load module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (once-only module, 135962511) Something is still keeping it from proceeding further to where all icons come up. How essential is that file? What does it do? Any further suggestions? Still hopeful :-) Bill Mudry Bill; Change to the vesa driver we spoke about yesterday. You don't have a 3D driver installed at this point and X is trying to load one because it's detecting your GeForce card. Right now, that system doesn't have the horsepower to support 3D graphics, but you should be able to get your desktop and decent graphics using the vesa driver. By the way, did you manage to find out which video card you have in that system? The card is an ATI Mach64 3D Rage IIC. It has a Rage IIC chip. It is 1998 vintage. Doesn't that 3D mean that it, instead, should support 3D? Where do I go, what do I do to put it into Vesa? Since this may very well be a 3D card, should I still by trying out Vesa? One step closer, still hopeful ;-) Bill -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 OK, Bill - Thanks for sorting out which card it is. It's possible that your card supports 3D acceleration (it most likely does), but unfortunately Mandrake (and most other downloadable distros of Linux) do not provide the 3D drivers for your graphics card. In order to do that, you would need to download and compile drivers from ATI. It would be a lot simpler to switch over to vesa and at least get a functional desktop before venturing off into 3D land. Log into your system using a shell/terminal/console as root and run XFdrake from the command line. Once it starts, the first option in the list selects your graphics card even though a 3D acceleration driver is not present for it. Scroll up the list until you reach the top (probably called Vendor) and switch to the Xorg list. Once that list opens, scroll down to and select the one called vesa. Once you return to the main menu, select test from the list. If you see the test screen, then everything is good. Once the test exits, go to the Options section in the menu and make sure it's set to start X when the system restarts. That should do it. Still as root in a console, run the command service dm start and you should get your login box. If that doesn't do it, then you might want to consider moving to an older version of Mandrake (ie; 9.2) and doing a fresh install. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
