Re: [newbie] Government trying to control our computers - OT but Important
On Monday 11 August 2003 09:04 pm, Dow Mathis wrote: Beat's me, Harv. I saw the post by the other guy, and it got my curiosity up. When I followed his link to http://stoppoliceware.org , they referenced the bill S. 2048. So I went on a scavenger hunt and ended up with the info I posted. I started not to answer at all, but I didn't see any point in letting others get their panties in a wad over something that didn't come to pass. dow if it didn't pass, that's a good thing. while my panties weren't completely in a wad, i am concerned over the whole issue. i think it's something that we all need to be aware of that they have the intent of doing something like this and that more than likely it will become a reality sooner or later. while yes, 90% of the things people now do are considered illegial and copyright infringement, there are the other 10% that would be copying material that they own for legimate purposes, like the people that do buy a CD but then want to make a compilation CD of different artists for their own personal enjoyment. i know my wife is one of those people that jsut wants to hear a few songs off of an album, using the computer to re-burn tracks from different CDs is a valuable tool for her in that she doesn't have to swap CDs in the car 15 times just to hear the songs that she wants to hear (plus makes her less of a hazard on the roads because she's not busy swapping Cds every 5 minutes). just my personal opinion though, i wanna do with my computer what i want to when i want to and i don't need the government telling me what and when i can/can't do something. guess that's why i don't have XP on the box and why i won't get it. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Government trying to control our computers - OT but Important
Beat's me, Harv. I saw the post by the other guy, and it got my curiosity up. When I followed his link to http://stoppoliceware.org , they referenced the bill S. 2048. So I went on a scavenger hunt and ended up with the info I posted. I started not to answer at all, but I didn't see any point in letting others get their panties in a wad over something that didn't come to pass. dow -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Harv Nelson Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Government trying to control our computers - OT but Important Are you perhaps talking about BPL .. Broadband over Power Lines? The FCC is about to implement lower part 15 interference standards to accomodate this piece of money gouging crap. See http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/08/08/2/?nc=1 for a full discussion Harv/AI9NL Dow Mathis wrote: Well, I did a search on the Senate website ( http://www.senate.gov ) and that bill is from the 107th session. We're in the 108th session now. Also, a search of the Public and Private Laws, 107th Congress ( http://www.gpoaccess.gov/plaws/search.html )makes no mention of the phrase Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act, three mentions of the number 2048 ( public law numbers 107-179, 107-288, and 107-110, none of which have anything to do with digital anything), and no mention of the phrase S. 2048. So I guess that it didn't pass. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of crak600 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Government trying to control our computers - OT but Important http://stoppoliceware.org/ if this has been posted already, i apologize. i'm so behind with all the mail from the group, it's overwhelming at times. anyway, this is very important to everyone. i'm not having the government control what i do with my computer. guess it's time to buy a DVD drive before all this stuff goes into effect, not that my intent is to do anything illegial or do any copyright violations with it, but i want to be able to do what i want to do when i want to do it with my computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Government trying to control our computers - OT but Important
On Monday 11 August 2003 07:39 pm, Dow Mathis wrote: Well, I did a search on the Senate website ( http://www.senate.gov ) and that bill is from the 107th session. We're in the 108th session now. Also, a search of the Public and Private Laws, 107th Congress ( http://www.gpoaccess.gov/plaws/search.html )makes no mention of the phrase Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act, three mentions of the number 2048 ( public law numbers 107-179, 107-288, and 107-110, none of which have anything to do with digital anything), and no mention of the phrase S. 2048. So I guess that it didn't pass. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of crak600 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Government trying to control our computers - OT but Important http://stoppoliceware.org/ if this has been posted already, i apologize. i'm so behind with all the mail from the group, it's overwhelming at times. anyway, this is very important to everyone. i'm not having the government control what i do with my computer. guess it's time to buy a DVD drive before all this stuff goes into effect, not that my intent is to do anything illegial or do any copyright violations with it, but i want to be able to do what i want to do when i want to do it with my computer. The bill was authored by Sen. Hollings (D - Disney). It would have required that _every_ digital device contain a means of preventing the copying of _any_ copyrighted material. (Can you say unintended consequences, boys and girls?) Luckily, old Fritz realized what a piece of crap the folks at Disney had asked him to sponsor, and allowed the bill to die. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Government trying to control our computers - OT but Important
Hello Dow, Monday, August 11, 2003, 4:39:56 PM, you wrote: DM Well, I did a search on the Senate website It's much more informative to just do a quick search on CBDTPA. This will tell you much more than will be on any government site. The politicos want to keep us in the dark as much as possible. :-) DM So I guess that it didn't pass. Not yet, but they will keep trying. Their other approach is to get M$ to build in essentially the same thing into their software. M$ is certainly going in that direction. Remember, if you use XP, you agreed to let M$ do whatever they want to to YOUR computer. The chip companies are also looking at hardware security options. The security is, of course, for THEM, not us. :-(( -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Government trying to control our computers - OT but Important
http://stoppoliceware.org/ if this has been posted already, i apologize. i'm so behind with all the mail from the group, it's overwhelming at times. anyway, this is very important to everyone. i'm not having the government control what i do with my computer. guess it's time to buy a DVD drive before all this stuff goes into effect, not that my intent is to do anything illegial or do any copyright violations with it, but i want to be able to do what i want to do when i want to do it with my computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
