Re: [newbie] Graphical text editors?
On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, you wrote: On Saturday, Oct 30 1999, 03:16, Benjamin Sher wrote: THINK TWICE AND THRICE BEFORE STEPPING INTO THE INFINITE LOOP OF EMACS AND VIM, or they will eat you up alive or send you straight to a mental asylum. Use a simple text editor such as mcedit, pico, joe, the default KDE text editor and so on. If you decide later that you want to learn programming, you can then move up to Emacs or Vim. But not until then. Hi Ben, i think Vi/Vim is as simple as any editor you mentioned above but Vim has more feature like cut/copy-paste, split-window for multiple file editing and colors. i write this letter with Mutt and Vim as the editor (i choose Mutt becouse it can handle multiple email account, and able to running from console). I would also like to say that emacs is an extremely powerful editor, very extensible, and it has gotten much easier to use over the years. It is worth spending 20 minutes to learn the basics, and then one can learn the additional features as one neds them. It has a great tutorial built right into the start up screen. I prefer vanilla vi to vim. But that is a personal thing. Jungney
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Ribbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think Vi/Vim is as simple as any editor you mentioned above but Vim has more feature like cut/copy-paste, split-window for multiple file editing and colors. i write this letter with Mutt and Vim as the editor (i choose Mutt becouse it can handle multiple email account, and able to running from console). im a newbie too, i'm 13, newbie to computer, newbie to linux (i never touch Ms Windows like most of you), and newbie to English. vim is very simple, you just have to learn it for 15 minutes(maybe less) and if you want to, maybe you should try to visit this site http://www.linux.ie/tutorials/vi.html -- Rib === Rib, You are obviously a very bright young man (oh-oh; apologies if I got the gender wrong). And you've reminded me that I'm not quite marginally competent ;o) Keep up the good work, Rib. Mike ++ Michael Scottaline COL 2.2 Linux 2.2.5 * * * * * * * * * * * It's a fresh wind that Blows Against the Empire Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Graphical Text Editors for programmers
On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, you wrote: Dear friends: Those of you who are planning on becoming programmers and are looking for a GRAPHICAL programmer's text editor, you might wish to consider I would say that the best for programming is definitely code crusader. . .its more of an IDE than a text editor. Very nice. . .it's what Brandon Reinhart used to port the Unreal Tournament Client to linex with, so that speaks in its favor. . .check it out at: http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~jafl/jcc/ enjoy! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
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On Sunday, Oct 31 1999, 01:11, Michael Scottaline wrote: === You are obviously a very bright young man (oh-oh; apologies if I got the gender wrong). And you've reminded me that I'm not quite marginally competent ;o) hi Mike, please dont say that. it maybe because we born in different time and different world (is your Dad using freeBSD like my Dad? ;) if i could run fast and kick hard, i would be playing soccer and join the soccer mailing list rather than linux stuff. and of course you dont have to be so bright (or be a programmer) to use Vim. as i said im a newbie, i believe you have known something more than i do. -- Rib
Re: [newbie] Graphical text editors?
One of the nice things about linux distributions is a variety of tools to do different jobs. While not a vi fan, I use emacs a great deal, and find it a very powerful editor, and an environment for doing much more. While I use pico for a simple script edit, the task is no more difficult if in emacs. In windows you had notepad, but you probably also used wordpad, a word processor, and even an html editor, etc. To me emacs is all these and more, you don't have to be a programmer to benefit from its power. You do have to take the tutorial when you first start, and later learn a bit about some other advanced commands. This isn't hard, its like learning that wordpad can save in RTF, or Doc and why would you want each. Ron Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: With all due respect to both Emacs and Vim, the two great programming languages on Linux, may I, as a newbie, suggest to all other newbies who do not plan to become programmers but who want to use a text editor for normal configuration files: THINK TWICE AND THRICE BEFORE STEPPING INTO THE INFINITE LOOP OF EMACS AND VIM, or they will eat you up alive or send you straight to a mental asylum. Use a simple text editor such as mcedit, pico, joe, the default KDE text editor and so on. If you decide later that you want to learn programming, you can then move up to Emacs or Vim. But not until then. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net -- Ron Marriage E-Mailmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage http://www.seidata.com/~marriage
Re: [newbie] Graphical text editors?
Dear Rib and friends: I sincerely congratulate you on having learned how to use Vim so well and, to think, you are only 13. Well, to tell you the truth I spent a solid hour (and more) wracking my brains doing the Emacs tutorial (just out of curiosity). Drove me insane. I just spent a few minutes trying to learn to use vim. Well, it doesn't look any more intuitive than emacs. And that's the whole point. I prefer mcedit because it is functional, well-designed, nice colors and, chiefly, because it is intuitive. What else could you ask for? That's what a newbie needs and wants. If he wants to become a programmer, he/she can always move up to emacs or vim later on. At any rate, congrats! Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [newbie] Graphical text editors?
On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, you wrote: That's what a newbie needs and wants. If he wants to become a programmer, he/she can always move up to emacs or vim later on. Yah. . .that's definitely the one use i would recommend emacs for myself, coding. One o the other members of my team uses it alot and said its neat, tho i ended up somewhat lobotomized after learning its use. . .which was later all invalidated by the discovery of Code Crusader. . .ahhh well. . .was a good learning experience tho -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
[newbie] Graphical Text Editors for programmers
Dear friends: Those of you who are planning on becoming programmers and are looking for a GRAPHICAL programmer's text editor, you might wish to consider Nedit and Cooledit and a number of other graphical text editors (including, I believe a Java text editor) available by searching at http://www.freshmeat.net Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
[newbie] Graphical text editors?
I'm looking for a graphical text editor, something that supports syntax coloring for HTML, and preferably PHP and SQL too. I'll go with either a KDE or Gnome app, and no, EMACS variants don't count. For those of you familiar with them, I'm looking for something like EditPlus or NoteTab in Windows or GoldEd on the Amiga. Damien Mc Kenna Keene State College, BSc Computer Science Student http://www.mckenna.brinet.net/[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ 17066133
Re: [newbie] Graphical text editors?
On Friday, Oct 29 1999, 12:27, Damien Mc Kenna wrote: I'm looking for a graphical text editor, something that supports syntax coloring for HTML, and preferably PHP and SQL too. I'll go with either a KDE or Gnome app, and no, EMACS variants don't count. For those of you familiar with them, I'm looking for something like EditPlus or NoteTab in Windows or GoldEd on the Amiga. Vim http://www.vim.org -- Rib
Re: [newbie] Graphical text editors?
Dear Ribbo: Try mcedit (in xterm). A beautiful and easy to use text editor. Just time "mcedit" (without the quotes) at the command line or type mcedit file-name, e.g. #mcedit /etc/fstab Benjamin Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
