Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
On Tuesday 06 July 2004 01:19 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: | On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 04:05, Erylon Hines wrote: | > On Saturday 03 July 2004 12:37 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: | > | On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 04:29, JoeHill wrote: | > | > Whoa, careful what you say about Australians, mate, there's a couple | > | > of 'em on hear and *man* are they ill-tempered ;-) | > | > Awww, they're o.k. when they're drunk. | > | > e | | When AREN'T we drunk? Maybe you mean sober? | | stephen kuhn - proprietor Nope, you're mostly o.k. when you're drunk. Then you just fight amongst yourselves and leave the rest of us in peace! e. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 04:05, Erylon Hines wrote: > On Saturday 03 July 2004 12:37 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > | On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 04:29, JoeHill wrote: > | > Whoa, careful what you say about Australians, mate, there's a couple of > | > 'em on hear and *man* are they ill-tempered ;-) > | > Awww, they're o.k. when they're drunk. > > e When AREN'T we drunk? Maybe you mean sober? stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products It was sad music. But it waved its sadness like a battle flag. It said the universe had done all it could, but you were still alive. (Soul Music) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
On Saturday 03 July 2004 12:37 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: | On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 04:29, JoeHill wrote: | > Whoa, careful what you say about Australians, mate, there's a couple of | > 'em on hear and *man* are they ill-tempered ;-) | Awww, they're o.k. when they're drunk. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:33:29 -0400, JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep, very easy to administer. Not as 'l33t' as going in through SSH and editing > iptables by hand, but who has time for that, right? > > One thing I never did understand about those Linksys doohickeys tho, why you > cannot specify one port to be forwarded to an internal server, ie. port 80 to > your webserver. You gotta put a *range* of ports, which strikes me as odd, but > that could be because I'm an id10t. It's just for flexibility. Using ranges, it easily supports both single port openings and range port openings (when you think about it, they're actually the same -- the former is just a range over one port). So, to open up port 80 only, you would open the range of ports from 80 to 80. Many other applications, though, user a block of ten or so ports. If only single port openings were supported, you would have to open a port 10 times. -- Matt Warden Berry Neuroscience Lab Department of Psychology Miami University This email proudly and graciously contributes to entropy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
On Saturday 03 July 2004 14:37, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 04:29, JoeHill wrote: > > > Whoa, careful what you say about Australians, mate, there's a couple of 'em on > > hear and *man* are they ill-tempered ;-) > > What the hell do you mean "ill-tempered"? Shall I rip out your arms and > beat you over the head with the bloody ends of 'em, mate? > Sounds like fun can you video it and stream to the list. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 02:10:47 +1000 Anthony Cull disseminated the following: > I have a Icky Australian made Crud Whoa, careful what you say about Australians, mate, there's a couple of 'em on hear and *man* are they ill-tempered ;-) > NETCOMM 1300B I want a netgear or a linksys.. (Netcomm have not returned my > previous question to them about sharing USB / Ethernet with 2k and MDK 10) If > I had the spare machine I would drop in securepoint, IP COP, Smoothwall, MDK > MNF. Ah, any decent used computer shop will have an old Pentium lyin' around for maybe 50 bucks. Hell, IIRC, Smoothwall will even run on a 486. But then ya need a hub as well, and those Linksys things save on space and they're kinda cute too. Depends on how much ya wanna play around with the hardware. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 14:24:23 up 4 days, 16:54, 7 users, load average: 0.13, 0.20, 0.13 +++ "One of the most dangerous errors of our time is the belief that human beings are uniquely violent animals, barely restrained from committing atrocities on each other by the constraints of ethics, religion, and the state." -- Eric S. Raymond Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 04:29, JoeHill wrote: > Whoa, careful what you say about Australians, mate, there's a couple of 'em on > hear and *man* are they ill-tempered ;-) What the hell do you mean "ill-tempered"? Shall I rip out your arms and beat you over the head with the bloody ends of 'em, mate? stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products Look DEEP into the OPENINGS!! Do you see any ELVES or EDSELS ... or a HIGHBALL?? ... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 00:44, Anthony Cull wrote: > I have spent the last 4 days trying to get ADSL back. Drakfirewall ppp+ block > all. Network would give me a IP but I could not even browse the internet. I > dont know what was wrong. So now Im a trator to myself and my LUG SUSE Free. > Still no MDK though. (only thing I like about SUSE is the power management > and Ease of networking/Firewall) ...you could have stopped trying to use MCC and just setup the networking with manually editing the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-eth0 file... stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products The English country gentleman galloping after a fox -- the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable. -- Oscar Wilde, "A Woman of No Importance" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 09:07:47 -0700 Eric Huff disseminated the following: > > > I have spent the last 4 days trying to get ADSL back. > > > Drakfirewall ppp+ block all. Network would give me a IP but I > > > Make your networking simpler, easier, and safer: drop some dough > > on a Linksys broadband firewall/router/NAT, and then no matter the > > OS, just plug a computer into a port on the Linksys and it's > > connected. It also greatly simplifies the internal networking if > > you've got more than one machine running. > > The reason they're "cross platform" is that you configure them thru > a web browser by pointing the browser to the router. (I know Joe > knows this, but wanted the OP to know, too.) Yep, very easy to administer. Not as 'l33t' as going in through SSH and editing iptables by hand, but who has time for that, right? One thing I never did understand about those Linksys doohickeys tho, why you cannot specify one port to be forwarded to an internal server, ie. port 80 to your webserver. You gotta put a *range* of ports, which strikes me as odd, but that could be because I'm an id10t. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 14:30:14 up 4 days, 17:00, 7 users, load average: 0.16, 0.22, 0.17 +++ There are literally several levels of SCO being wrong. And even if we were to live in that alternate universe where SCO would be right, they'd still be wrong. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 02:10, Anthony Cull wrote: > I have a Icky Australian made Crud NETCOMM 1300B I want a netgear or a > linksys.. (Netcomm have not returned my previous question to them about > sharing USB / Ethernet with 2k and MDK 10) If I had the spare machine I would > drop in securepoint, IP COP, Smoothwall, MDK MNF. > > At least now my NTFS partitions arnt spewed all over the floor. > (learned that lesson well.) Hey - I like those Netcomm's - ain't bad - and setting up NAT on one machine to share with the rest is simple as stringing a choko over a dunny mate... stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products An honest tale speeds best being plainly told. -- William Shakespeare, "Henry VI" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
I have a Icky Australian made Crud NETCOMM 1300B I want a netgear or a linksys.. (Netcomm have not returned my previous question to them about sharing USB / Ethernet with 2k and MDK 10) If I had the spare machine I would drop in securepoint, IP COP, Smoothwall, MDK MNF. At least now my NTFS partitions arnt spewed all over the floor. (learned that lesson well.) On Sunday 04 July 2004 01:29, JoeHill wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 00:44:58 +1000 > > Anthony Cull disseminated the following: > > I have spent the last 4 days trying to get ADSL back. Drakfirewall ppp+ > > block all. Network would give me a IP but I could not even browse the > > internet. I dont know what was wrong. So now Im a trator to myself and my > > LUG SUSE Free. Still no MDK though. (only thing I like about SUSE is the > > power management and Ease of networking/Firewall) > > Make your networking simpler, easier, and safer: drop some dough on a > Linksys broadband firewall/router/NAT, and then no matter the OS, just plug > a computer into a port on the Linksys and it's connected. It also greatly > simplifies the internal networking if you've got more than one machine > running. > > To top it all off, the Linksys routers use an embedded Linux, so you know > it's relatively reliable. > > Oh, and it'll give you some time to learn how to configure a *real* > firewall, like Mandrake Multi-Network Firewall, if that's something you are > interested in and you've got the extra hardware. > > Other sol'ns: > > http://www.smoothwall.org/ > > http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
> > I have spent the last 4 days trying to get ADSL back. > > Drakfirewall ppp+ block all. Network would give me a IP but I > Make your networking simpler, easier, and safer: drop some dough > on a Linksys broadband firewall/router/NAT, and then no matter the > OS, just plug a computer into a port on the Linksys and it's > connected. It also greatly simplifies the internal networking if > you've got more than one machine running. The reason they're "cross platform" is that you configure them thru a web browser by pointing the browser to the router. (I know Joe knows this, but wanted the OP to know, too.) eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I am now a trator
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 00:44:58 +1000 Anthony Cull disseminated the following: > I have spent the last 4 days trying to get ADSL back. Drakfirewall ppp+ block > all. Network would give me a IP but I could not even browse the internet. I > dont know what was wrong. So now Im a trator to myself and my LUG SUSE Free. > Still no MDK though. (only thing I like about SUSE is the power management > and Ease of networking/Firewall) Make your networking simpler, easier, and safer: drop some dough on a Linksys broadband firewall/router/NAT, and then no matter the OS, just plug a computer into a port on the Linksys and it's connected. It also greatly simplifies the internal networking if you've got more than one machine running. To top it all off, the Linksys routers use an embedded Linux, so you know it's relatively reliable. Oh, and it'll give you some time to learn how to configure a *real* firewall, like Mandrake Multi-Network Firewall, if that's something you are interested in and you've got the extra hardware. Other sol'ns: http://www.smoothwall.org/ http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 11:22:53 up 4 days, 13:53, 7 users, load average: 0.33, 0.23, 0.13 +++ Rule #2 (John Gilmore): "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] I am now a trator
I have spent the last 4 days trying to get ADSL back. Drakfirewall ppp+ block all. Network would give me a IP but I could not even browse the internet. I dont know what was wrong. So now Im a trator to myself and my LUG SUSE Free. Still no MDK though. (only thing I like about SUSE is the power management and Ease of networking/Firewall) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
