Re: [Re: [newbie] KDE Messed up]

1999-08-18 Thread Michael Scottaline

RReed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Press your.. ahem.. non-start key.. the geared K one at lower left go to KDE
control centerapplications...login
manager..sessions..then
i believe you want to choose console only

R Reed
===
And remember to do it as "root".  Otherwise you'll be denied access to the
"login manager"  ;-)







Re: [newbie] KDE Messed up

1999-08-18 Thread Murray Strome

I would like to thank both of you for helping me to solve the problem.  Sorry I was
so slow to "get it".  It is all fixed up and working fine now.

Murray Strome

RReed wrote:

 Press your.. ahem.. non-start key.. the geared K one at lower left go to KDE
 control centerapplications...login manager..sessions..then
 i believe you want to choose console only

 R Reed

 Murray Strome wrote:

  Hi

 -- thanks for trying to help.  I cannot find any configuration
 program which

  has a LOGIN Manager associated with it.  I looked through all
 the items in the

  list -- found some things which said configuration, but none seemed
 to have a

  configuration manager.  If I try to start gnome from anywhere,
 I get a message

  which says "Gnome segmentation fault, report bug to development team".

 

  Next time you at your LINUX machine, perhaps you could take a look
 and help me

  find the item. Thanks.

 

  Murray Strome

  Aaron deRozario wrote:

 

   I know I had a similar problem after a bad unmount problem.
 The Mandrake

   login screen disappeared and was replaced with the standard KDE
 login screen

   and no Shutdown button.  I stumbled upon the solution by accident.

  

   If you log in as root and start up the KDE configuration program
 (sorry I

   can't remember the name - I am at work on Windows - it is the program
 you

   use to change backgrounds etc and has a button on the panel).
 In there you

   will find the LOGIN manager.  Under teh login amanager you
 will find a whole

   heap of things you can configure.  You will find a section
 on Shutdown

   permissions (I think I used Shutdown for all) that put the Shutdown
 button

   back on the login screen.

  

   There is also a section on sessions.  Add a session called
 kde (otherwise

   kde sort of disappears).  You can also add WindowMaker.
 I did this creating

   two possible sessions KDE and WindowMaker, however after a while
 (proabably

   a restart)  all the options miraculously returned (IceWM etc).
 I'm not

   quite sure why that happened.

  

   There is also an option that gives an icon for various users.
 This was not

   part of the default configuration for Mandrake, though it is for
 Caldera.

   It does speed up login (not that typing your username is particularly
 slow).

   There are a few other things you can configure as well (startup
 screen

   wallpaper etc).

  

   Sorry I can't be more descriptive, as I said I'm at work and don't
 have a

   linux box in front of me.

  

   Hope this helps.

  

   Aaron

  

-Original Message-

From: Murray Strome [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 1999 2:55

To:   LINUX Newbie

Subject:  [newbie] KDE Messed up

   

Can anyone help me with this one?

   

   

I am not sure what exactly caused it, but during a session, the
 system

locked up and nothing

could get it going except to restart it.  After this, the
 initial box in

KDE is messed up.  Until this

happened, that box gave me a pull down menu with several start-up

possibilities (such as

KDE, Gnome, Windowmaker and many others), and there was a button
 which

allowed one to

shutdown or restart the computer.  It has been replaced
 with a similar box

with a large "24" at

the top, a pull down menu with only KDE and Failsafe options
 and no button

for

shutdown/restart.

   

How can I recover the original box? During reboot, the only things
 which

fail are the sound

card item (which I still have not been able to resolve -- Acer
 FX-3D

(1816)) and I get a

message

   

mountd: couldn't start /var/lib/nfs/xtab

   

Also, during shutdown, I got a message saying it could not unmount
 NFS

system.  I don't

know if these are related or not.

   

   






RE: [newbie] KDE Messed up

1999-08-17 Thread Aaron deRozario

I know I had a similar problem after a bad unmount problem.  The Mandrake
login screen disappeared and was replaced with the standard KDE login screen
and no Shutdown button.  I stumbled upon the solution by accident.

If you log in as root and start up the KDE configuration program (sorry I
can't remember the name - I am at work on Windows - it is the program you
use to change backgrounds etc and has a button on the panel).  In there you
will find the LOGIN manager.  Under teh login amanager you will find a whole
heap of things you can configure.  You will find a section on Shutdown
permissions (I think I used Shutdown for all) that put the Shutdown button
back on the login screen.

There is also a section on sessions.  Add a session called kde (otherwise
kde sort of disappears).  You can also add WindowMaker.  I did this creating
two possible sessions KDE and WindowMaker, however after a while (proabably
a restart)  all the options miraculously returned (IceWM etc).  I'm not
quite sure why that happened.

There is also an option that gives an icon for various users.  This was not
part of the default configuration for Mandrake, though it is for Caldera.
It does speed up login (not that typing your username is particularly slow).
There are a few other things you can configure as well (startup screen
wallpaper etc).

Sorry I can't be more descriptive, as I said I'm at work and don't have a
linux box in front of me.

Hope this helps.

Aaron

 -Original Message-
 From: Murray Strome [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 1999 2:55
 To:   LINUX Newbie
 Subject:  [newbie] KDE Messed up
 
 Can anyone help me with this one? 
   
 
 I am not sure what exactly caused it, but during a session, the system
 locked up and nothing 
 could get it going except to restart it.  After this, the initial box in
 KDE is messed up.  Until this 
 happened, that box gave me a pull down menu with several start-up
 possibilities (such as 
 KDE, Gnome, Windowmaker and many others), and there was a button which
 allowed one to 
 shutdown or restart the computer.  It has been replaced with a similar box
 with a large "24" at 
 the top, a pull down menu with only KDE and Failsafe options and no button
 for 
 shutdown/restart. 
 
 How can I recover the original box? During reboot, the only things which
 fail are the sound 
 card item (which I still have not been able to resolve -- Acer FX-3D
 (1816)) and I get a 
 message 
 
 mountd: couldn't start /var/lib/nfs/xtab 
 
 Also, during shutdown, I got a message saying it could not unmount NFS
 system.  I don't 
 know if these are related or not. 
   
 
 Murray Strome 
 -- 
 
 Murray and Diane Strome
 1275 Burnside Road West
 VICTORIA BC   V8Z 1P3
 Canada
 Phone: (250) 479-6448
 Fax:   (250) 727-3427
  



Re: [newbie] KDE Messed up

1999-08-17 Thread Murray Strome

Hi -- thanks for trying to help.  I cannot find any configuration program which
has a LOGIN Manager associated with it.  I looked through all the items in the
list -- found some things which said configuration, but none seemed to have a
configuration manager.  If I try to start gnome from anywhere, I get a message
which says "Gnome segmentation fault, report bug to development team".

Next time you at your LINUX machine, perhaps you could take a look and help me
find the item. Thanks.

Murray Strome
Aaron deRozario wrote:

 I know I had a similar problem after a bad unmount problem.  The Mandrake
 login screen disappeared and was replaced with the standard KDE login screen
 and no Shutdown button.  I stumbled upon the solution by accident.

 If you log in as root and start up the KDE configuration program (sorry I
 can't remember the name - I am at work on Windows - it is the program you
 use to change backgrounds etc and has a button on the panel).  In there you
 will find the LOGIN manager.  Under teh login amanager you will find a whole
 heap of things you can configure.  You will find a section on Shutdown
 permissions (I think I used Shutdown for all) that put the Shutdown button
 back on the login screen.

 There is also a section on sessions.  Add a session called kde (otherwise
 kde sort of disappears).  You can also add WindowMaker.  I did this creating
 two possible sessions KDE and WindowMaker, however after a while (proabably
 a restart)  all the options miraculously returned (IceWM etc).  I'm not
 quite sure why that happened.

 There is also an option that gives an icon for various users.  This was not
 part of the default configuration for Mandrake, though it is for Caldera.
 It does speed up login (not that typing your username is particularly slow).
 There are a few other things you can configure as well (startup screen
 wallpaper etc).

 Sorry I can't be more descriptive, as I said I'm at work and don't have a
 linux box in front of me.

 Hope this helps.

 Aaron

  -Original Message-
  From: Murray Strome [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 1999 2:55
  To:   LINUX Newbie
  Subject:      [newbie] KDE Messed up
 
  Can anyone help me with this one?
 
 
  I am not sure what exactly caused it, but during a session, the system
  locked up and nothing
  could get it going except to restart it.  After this, the initial box in
  KDE is messed up.  Until this
  happened, that box gave me a pull down menu with several start-up
  possibilities (such as
  KDE, Gnome, Windowmaker and many others), and there was a button which
  allowed one to
  shutdown or restart the computer.  It has been replaced with a similar box
  with a large "24" at
  the top, a pull down menu with only KDE and Failsafe options and no button
  for
  shutdown/restart.
 
  How can I recover the original box? During reboot, the only things which
  fail are the sound
  card item (which I still have not been able to resolve -- Acer FX-3D
  (1816)) and I get a
  message
 
  mountd: couldn't start /var/lib/nfs/xtab
 
  Also, during shutdown, I got a message saying it could not unmount NFS
  system.  I don't
  know if these are related or not.
 
 
  Murray Strome
  --
  
  Murray and Diane Strome
  1275 Burnside Road West
  VICTORIA BC   V8Z 1P3
  Canada
  Phone: (250) 479-6448
  Fax:   (250) 727-3427
 

--

Murray and Diane Strome
1275 Burnside Road West
VICTORIA BC   V8Z 1P3
Canada
Phone: (250) 479-6448
Fax:   (250) 727-3427





FW: [newbie] KDE Messed up

1999-08-17 Thread Aaron deRozario



 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron deRozario 
 Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 1999 10:25
 To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject:  RE: [newbie] KDE Messed up
 
 Not a problem - I'll have a look next time I'm in front of Linux.  For the
 moment I'll have another go at giving you a very bad description of what
 to look for.
 
 The programme can be launched from the panel.  The launch button has an
 icon that is a computer monitor with a green thing over it.  When launched
 it has a series of expandable/collapseable icons down the left hand side.
 Some of these expandable/collapseable icons includes Desktop (which
 expands to show Background etc), Themes etc.
 
 The one you are looking for is the very first of these
 collapseable/expandable icons.  It expands to show a Login Manager (or
 similar), an option for configuring the File Manager and an option for
 configuring the Web Browser.  It is the first of these that you need to
 select.  
 
 Now I know this description is as vague as my last one, but maybe someone
 on the mailing list will read this and go "Yeah I know what he's going on
 about the name of teh programme is  and what you do is "
 
 In the mean time I'll check the Linux box tonight and write it all down
 for you.
 
 Aaron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Murray Strome [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 1999 10:07
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc:   Aaron deRozario
 Subject:  Re: [newbie] KDE Messed up
 
 Hi -- thanks for trying to help.  I cannot find any configuration program
 which
 has a LOGIN Manager associated with it.  I looked through all the items in
 the
 list -- found some things which said configuration, but none seemed to
 have a
 configuration manager.  If I try to start gnome from anywhere, I get a
 message
 which says "Gnome segmentation fault, report bug to development team".
 
 Next time you at your LINUX machine, perhaps you could take a look and
 help me
 find the item. Thanks.
 
 Murray Strome
 Aaron deRozario wrote:
 
  I know I had a similar problem after a bad unmount problem.  The
 Mandrake
  login screen disappeared and was replaced with the standard KDE login
 screen
  and no Shutdown button.  I stumbled upon the solution by accident.
 
  If you log in as root and start up the KDE configuration program (sorry
 I
  can't remember the name - I am at work on Windows - it is the program
 you
  use to change backgrounds etc and has a button on the panel).  In there
 you
  will find the LOGIN manager.  Under teh login amanager you will find a
 whole
  heap of things you can configure.  You will find a section on Shutdown
  permissions (I think I used Shutdown for all) that put the Shutdown
 button
  back on the login screen.
 
  There is also a section on sessions.  Add a session called kde
 (otherwise
  kde sort of disappears).  You can also add WindowMaker.  I did this
 creating
  two possible sessions KDE and WindowMaker, however after a while
 (proabably
  a restart)  all the options miraculously returned (IceWM etc).  I'm not
  quite sure why that happened.
 
  There is also an option that gives an icon for various users.  This was
 not
  part of the default configuration for Mandrake, though it is for
 Caldera.
  It does speed up login (not that typing your username is particularly
 slow).
  There are a few other things you can configure as well (startup screen
  wallpaper etc).
 
  Sorry I can't be more descriptive, as I said I'm at work and don't have
 a
  linux box in front of me.
 
  Hope this helps.
 
  Aaron
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Murray Strome [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 1999 2:55
   To:   LINUX Newbie
   Subject:  [newbie] KDE Messed up
  
   Can anyone help me with this one?
  
  
   I am not sure what exactly caused it, but during a session, the system
   locked up and nothing
   could get it going except to restart it.  After this, the initial box
 in
   KDE is messed up.  Until this
   happened, that box gave me a pull down menu with several start-up
   possibilities (such as
   KDE, Gnome, Windowmaker and many others), and there was a button which
   allowed one to
   shutdown or restart the computer.  It has been replaced with a similar
 box
   with a large "24" at
   the top, a pull down menu with only KDE and Failsafe options and no
 button
   for
   shutdown/restart.
  
   How can I recover the original box? During reboot, the only things
 which
   fail are the sound
   card item (which I still have not been able to resolve -- Acer FX-3D
   (1816)) and I get a
   message
  
   mountd: couldn't start /var/lib/nfs/xtab
  
   Also, during shutdown, I got a message saying it could not unmount NFS
   system.  I don't
   know if these are related or not.
  
  
   Murray Strome
   --
   
   Murray and Diane Strome
   1275 Burnside Road West
   VICTORIA BC   V8Z 1P3
   Canada
   Phone: (250) 479

RE: [newbie] KDE Messed up

1999-08-17 Thread Aaron deRozario

Just had a quick look at the screenshots on the KDE home page.  The
programme I am talking about is the KDE Control Centre.  It can be launched
from the panel or from the "K" button.  Once it is started you should be
able to find teh section I was telling you about (Login Manager).  THe name
might not be the same but it is self-explanatory.  Unless you are logged in
as root, it will not give you access.

Hope this helps.

Aaron

 -Original Message-
 From: Murray Strome [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 1999 10:07
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc:   Aaron deRozario
 Subject:  Re: [newbie] KDE Messed up
 
 Hi -- thanks for trying to help.  I cannot find any configuration program
 which
 has a LOGIN Manager associated with it.  I looked through all the items in
 the
 list -- found some things which said configuration, but none seemed to
 have a
 configuration manager.  If I try to start gnome from anywhere, I get a
 message
 which says "Gnome segmentation fault, report bug to development team".
 
 Next time you at your LINUX machine, perhaps you could take a look and
 help me
 find the item. Thanks.
 
 Murray Strome
 Aaron deRozario wrote:
 
  I know I had a similar problem after a bad unmount problem.  The
 Mandrake
  login screen disappeared and was replaced with the standard KDE login
 screen
  and no Shutdown button.  I stumbled upon the solution by accident.
 
  If you log in as root and start up the KDE configuration program (sorry
 I
  can't remember the name - I am at work on Windows - it is the program
 you
  use to change backgrounds etc and has a button on the panel).  In there
 you
  will find the LOGIN manager.  Under teh login amanager you will find a
 whole
  heap of things you can configure.  You will find a section on Shutdown
  permissions (I think I used Shutdown for all) that put the Shutdown
 button
  back on the login screen.
 
  There is also a section on sessions.  Add a session called kde
 (otherwise
  kde sort of disappears).  You can also add WindowMaker.  I did this
 creating
  two possible sessions KDE and WindowMaker, however after a while
 (proabably
  a restart)  all the options miraculously returned (IceWM etc).  I'm not
  quite sure why that happened.
 
  There is also an option that gives an icon for various users.  This was
 not
  part of the default configuration for Mandrake, though it is for
 Caldera.
  It does speed up login (not that typing your username is particularly
 slow).
  There are a few other things you can configure as well (startup screen
  wallpaper etc).
 
  Sorry I can't be more descriptive, as I said I'm at work and don't have
 a
  linux box in front of me.
 
  Hope this helps.
 
  Aaron
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Murray Strome [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 1999 2:55
   To:   LINUX Newbie
   Subject:  [newbie] KDE Messed up
  
   Can anyone help me with this one?
  
  
   I am not sure what exactly caused it, but during a session, the system
   locked up and nothing
   could get it going except to restart it.  After this, the initial box
 in
   KDE is messed up.  Until this
   happened, that box gave me a pull down menu with several start-up
   possibilities (such as
   KDE, Gnome, Windowmaker and many others), and there was a button which
   allowed one to
   shutdown or restart the computer.  It has been replaced with a similar
 box
   with a large "24" at
   the top, a pull down menu with only KDE and Failsafe options and no
 button
   for
   shutdown/restart.
  
   How can I recover the original box? During reboot, the only things
 which
   fail are the sound
   card item (which I still have not been able to resolve -- Acer FX-3D
   (1816)) and I get a
   message
  
   mountd: couldn't start /var/lib/nfs/xtab
  
   Also, during shutdown, I got a message saying it could not unmount NFS
   system.  I don't
   know if these are related or not.
  
  
   Murray Strome
   --
   
   Murray and Diane Strome
   1275 Burnside Road West
   VICTORIA BC   V8Z 1P3
   Canada
   Phone: (250) 479-6448
   Fax:   (250) 727-3427
  
 
 --
 
 Murray and Diane Strome
 1275 Burnside Road West
 VICTORIA BC   V8Z 1P3
 Canada
 Phone: (250) 479-6448
 Fax:   (250) 727-3427
 
 



Re: [newbie] KDE Messed up

1999-08-17 Thread RReed

Press your.. ahem.. non-start key.. the geared K one at lower left go to KDE
control centerapplications...login manager..sessions..then
i believe you want to choose console only

R Reed





Murray Strome wrote:

 Hi -- thanks for trying to help.  I cannot find any configuration program which
 has a LOGIN Manager associated with it.  I looked through all the items in the
 list -- found some things which said configuration, but none seemed to have a
 configuration manager.  If I try to start gnome from anywhere, I get a message
 which says "Gnome segmentation fault, report bug to development team".

 Next time you at your LINUX machine, perhaps you could take a look and help me
 find the item. Thanks.

 Murray Strome
 Aaron deRozario wrote:

  I know I had a similar problem after a bad unmount problem.  The Mandrake
  login screen disappeared and was replaced with the standard KDE login screen
  and no Shutdown button.  I stumbled upon the solution by accident.
 
  If you log in as root and start up the KDE configuration program (sorry I
  can't remember the name - I am at work on Windows - it is the program you
  use to change backgrounds etc and has a button on the panel).  In there you
  will find the LOGIN manager.  Under teh login amanager you will find a whole
  heap of things you can configure.  You will find a section on Shutdown
  permissions (I think I used Shutdown for all) that put the Shutdown button
  back on the login screen.
 
  There is also a section on sessions.  Add a session called kde (otherwise
  kde sort of disappears).  You can also add WindowMaker.  I did this creating
  two possible sessions KDE and WindowMaker, however after a while (proabably
  a restart)  all the options miraculously returned (IceWM etc).  I'm not
  quite sure why that happened.
 
  There is also an option that gives an icon for various users.  This was not
  part of the default configuration for Mandrake, though it is for Caldera.
  It does speed up login (not that typing your username is particularly slow).
  There are a few other things you can configure as well (startup screen
  wallpaper etc).
 
  Sorry I can't be more descriptive, as I said I'm at work and don't have a
  linux box in front of me.
 
  Hope this helps.
 
  Aaron
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Murray Strome [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 1999 2:55
   To:   LINUX Newbie
   Subject:      [newbie] KDE Messed up
  
   Can anyone help me with this one?
  
  
   I am not sure what exactly caused it, but during a session, the system
   locked up and nothing
   could get it going except to restart it.  After this, the initial box in
   KDE is messed up.  Until this
   happened, that box gave me a pull down menu with several start-up
   possibilities (such as
   KDE, Gnome, Windowmaker and many others), and there was a button which
   allowed one to
   shutdown or restart the computer.  It has been replaced with a similar box
   with a large "24" at
   the top, a pull down menu with only KDE and Failsafe options and no button
   for
   shutdown/restart.
  
   How can I recover the original box? During reboot, the only things which
   fail are the sound
   card item (which I still have not been able to resolve -- Acer FX-3D
   (1816)) and I get a
   message
  
   mountd: couldn't start /var/lib/nfs/xtab
  
   Also, during shutdown, I got a message saying it could not unmount NFS
   system.  I don't
   know if these are related or not.
  
  
   Murray Strome
   --
   
   Murray and Diane Strome
   1275 Burnside Road West
   VICTORIA BC   V8Z 1P3
   Canada
   Phone: (250) 479-6448
   Fax:   (250) 727-3427
  

 --
 
 Murray and Diane Strome
 1275 Burnside Road West
 VICTORIA BC   V8Z 1P3
 Canada
 Phone: (250) 479-6448
 Fax:   (250) 727-3427