[newbie] KOffice doubts

2002-11-20 Thread Anne Wilson
Although the various elements of KOffice do seem quite good, I am seriously 
concerned that there is little or no ability to communicate with other 
programs.  About a week ago John raised the question of a KOffice 
spreadsheet, which he neede to try in another format because it was getting 
to big for KOffice.  It seems to me a serious flaw that any office package 
does not attempt to read/write other major formats.  I may resent having to 
use MSOffice formats, but at least they can be used for moving data between 
applications, as did the ability that most windows spreadsheet programs had 
of saving an early Lotus 1-2-3 format.

It is not, I think, adequate to simply say that you can save a csv file.  
Useful they may be when you're in a corner, but reformatting everything and 
so on is a huge job.

There is much that is good in KOffice, but if they insist on a M$-like 
proprietary format to the exclusion of all else they will damage their 
product.

My 2p-worth, anyway.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] KOffice doubts

2002-11-20 Thread Robin Turner
Anne Wilson wrote:

Although the various elements of KOffice do seem quite good, I am seriously 
concerned that there is little or no ability to communicate with other 
programs.  About a week ago John raised the question of a KOffice 
spreadsheet, which he neede to try in another format because it was getting 
to big for KOffice.  It seems to me a serious flaw that any office package 
does not attempt to read/write other major formats.  I may resent having to 
use MSOffice formats, but at least they can be used for moving data between 
applications, as did the ability that most windows spreadsheet programs had 
of saving an early Lotus 1-2-3 format.

It is not, I think, adequate to simply say that you can save a csv file.  
Useful they may be when you're in a corner, but reformatting everything and 
so on is a huge job.

There is much that is good in KOffice, but if they insist on a M$-like 
proprietary format to the exclusion of all else they will damage their 
product.

My 2p-worth, anyway.


I agree with most of this, except that they don't use a proprietary 
format - it's an open, XML-based format.  Most other apps don't have 
import filters for it (probably because so few people use KOffice) but 
writing one wouldn't be hard. Word .doc - now _that's_ a proprietary format!

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] KOffice doubts

2002-11-20 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 8:50 pm, Robin Turner wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
  Although the various elements of KOffice do seem quite good, I am
  seriously concerned that there is little or no ability to communicate
  with other programs.  About a week ago John raised the question of a
  KOffice spreadsheet, which he neede to try in another format because it
  was getting to big for KOffice.  It seems to me a serious flaw that any
  office package does not attempt to read/write other major formats.  I may
  resent having to use MSOffice formats, but at least they can be used for
  moving data between applications, as did the ability that most windows
  spreadsheet programs had of saving an early Lotus 1-2-3 format.
 
  It is not, I think, adequate to simply say that you can save a csv file.
  Useful they may be when you're in a corner, but reformatting everything
  and so on is a huge job.
 
  There is much that is good in KOffice, but if they insist on a M$-like
  proprietary format to the exclusion of all else they will damage their
  product.
 
  My 2p-worth, anyway.

 I agree with most of this, except that they don't use a proprietary
 format - it's an open, XML-based format.  Most other apps don't have
 import filters for it (probably because so few people use KOffice) but
 writing one wouldn't be hard. Word .doc - now _that's_ a proprietary
 format!

I stand corrected.  However, the point I was making was that interoperability 
is vitally important for many people.  With KWord being halfway between a 
word processor and a desk top publisher app. it is very useful.  I realise 
that importing and exporting complex documents is tricky, but I would hate to 
see all the good work done on this product going down the pan because people 
ignore it due to lack of filters.

Anne


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