Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.
On Thursday 17 March 2005 07:59 pm, Tom wrote: OTOH, you didn't say if you need a SMP (more than one processor), a Hi-Mem (1 gig of ram or more), or any other special requirements. snip Tom, Thanks a lot. I have a fairly standard laptop setup, so I think the standard kernel you linked will be fine. Holler back if you want to compile, it's really fairly simple. If it goes belly up, I will take you up on your offer! Thanks again, Jarlath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.
After installing the mandrake package for kernel 2.6.11, the only problem seems to be the network. I get this error: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unholy]# service network start Setting network parameters: [ OK ] Bringing up loopback interface: [ OK ] Bringing up interface eth1: driverloader device eth1 does not seem to be present, delaying initialization. [FAILED] driverloader is a service that loads the drivers for my pcmcia network card. I installed it when I was using the old kernel so maybe the new kernel needs to be made aware of it's presence. But I dont know how to do that. Thanks for listening, Jarlath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.
JR wrote: On Thursday 17 March 2005 07:59 pm, Tom wrote: OTOH, you didn't say if you need a SMP (more than one processor), a Hi-Mem (1 gig of ram or more), or any other special requirements. snip Tom, Thanks a lot. I have a fairly standard laptop setup, so I think the standard kernel you linked will be fine. Well, I had thought I implied that your chances of success with a 2.6.11 kernel on older Mandrake versions were questionable. That it would be better to wait a bit an install 10.2 if you need a 2.6.11 kernel. OTOH, if you install the kernel with -ivh, it will go in along side your current kernel, which you then can always fall back to if the new kernel fails. Laptop, adds in another question mark. Many reports on cooker that 2.6.11 fails on some laptops. Mostly an i686/i586 issue. The only work around right now AFAIK is to try the i586 specific kernel. (I've never had a laptop) ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/media/main/kernel-i586-up-1GB-2.6.11.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm In explanation; while Mandrake is still primarily an i586 architecture distro, many things like glibc and the 'normal' kernel are compiled for 1686 to take advantage of that optimization and 686 specific cpu flags. Many laptop, C(yrix)-3 processors, and some others are not true i686 systems. C-3's aren't even true i586. The 10.2 installer has been modified to blacklist these systems an install the i586 kernel. 'Course if you install a 10.2 kernel on an older Mdk version, this protection is not afforded. Type 'arch' in a console and press Enter, it'll probly return 'i686'. That only means that the cpu/cache reports itself as 686 architecture the system might not really be i686. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.
Smiley wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:00:58 + Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an automated process (Mandrake or otherwise) that I can use that will upgrade my kernel for me, or will I have to do this manually by compiling the new kernel ? If a new kernel is out in a repository (official or unofficial) you can install through urpmi or anyway the old rpm way (rpm -ivh or using a graphical frontend); anyway, the new kernel will be added and the old one will still be installed unless you decide to do. -- Smiley And don't forget to include the kernel-source ~ you will need it for the driver . -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.
Thanks for the info, urpmi looks cool, will get playing with it straight away. Tony. On Thursday 17 March 2005 12:54 am, you wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:00:58 + Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an automated process (Mandrake or otherwise) that I can use that will upgrade my kernel for me, or will I have to do this manually by compiling the new kernel ? If a new kernel is out in a repository (official or unofficial) you can install through urpmi or anyway the old rpm way (rpm -ivh or using a graphical frontend); anyway, the new kernel will be added and the old one will still be installed unless you decide to do. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.
If a new kernel is out in a repository (official or unofficial) you can install through urpmi or anyway Could anyone tell me where I can find such a repository? I've followed the kernel upgrade / install instructions at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi#Installing_a_new_kernel but the 'updates' repository doesnt have anything newer than 2.6.8. I'd like 2.6.10 / 2.6.11 Cheers, Ja Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.
JR wrote: If a new kernel is out in a repository (official or unofficial) you can install through urpmi or anyway Could anyone tell me where I can find such a repository? I've followed the kernel upgrade / install instructions at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi#Installing_a_new_kernel but the 'updates' repository doesnt have anything newer than 2.6.8. I'd like 2.6.10 / 2.6.11 Cheers, Ja You could get 2.6.11-2mdk from ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/media/main/kernel-2.6.11.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm (18MB) You must install it with (as root, in a console, in the directory the kernel rpm is in) 'rpm -ivh kern (just hit the Tab key to auto-complete the rest of the package name). The important bit being to _i_nstall (-ivh), rather than U_pgrade (-Uvh) the kernel. Since it's cooker, if there's any problem, you can always just re-boot an run your existing kernel. OTOH, you didn't say if you need a SMP (more than one processor), a Hi-Mem (1 gig of ram or more), or any other special requirements. In any of those cases, or if you just wanna compile from source to better ensure the kernel's compatibility with your older Mandrake version. You'll need the source, install with 'rpm -Uvh kern Tab ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/media/main/kernel-source-2.6-2.6.11-2mdk.i586.rpm (45MB) Holler back if you want to compile, it's really fairly simple. OTOH, beware that due to Linus/OSDL security an other enhancements, the newest kernels will inhibit many actions that now seem transparent to the user, and require changes in many GUI's (CD burning for example). Many processes are handled differently, an to tell the truth, I have no idea what impact that will have using a 2.6.11-mdk on past Mandrake versions. Sufficiently discouraged? Depends on how adventurous you are ;) Or you can wait just a bit. Cooker 10.2 RC2 iso's should be available within a week or so ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/iso/i586 and you could install 10.2 RC2 an keep it upgraded with cooker media sources until it becomes 10.2 Community. A little longer till it becomes 10.2 Official. I would never recommend kernel.org vanilla sources used to compile a kernel. Specially if you don't know how to patch it about 2 or 300 times to get it equivalent with Mandrake. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.
Hi, I've just installed 10.1 AMD64, but had to install the nVidia gfx driver after for my 6600GT card. While installing this with the nVidia .run script, I got an error specifying that need to upgrade to at least kernel 2.6.11 because of an accounting issue in the current kernel version, 2.6.9. Is there an automated process (Mandrake or otherwise) that I can use that will upgrade my kernel for me, or will I have to do this manually by compiling the new kernel ? Thanks for any advice. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.11 upgrade.
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:00:58 + Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an automated process (Mandrake or otherwise) that I can use that will upgrade my kernel for me, or will I have to do this manually by compiling the new kernel ? If a new kernel is out in a repository (official or unofficial) you can install through urpmi or anyway the old rpm way (rpm -ivh or using a graphical frontend); anyway, the new kernel will be added and the old one will still be installed unless you decide to do. -- Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
