Re: [newbie] LM 8.1 vs Redhat 6.2

2002-01-17 Thread Robin Turner

On Friday 11 January 2002 20:09, Erylon wrote:
 On Friday 11 January 2002 06:10, you wrote:
  or the equivalent of RH6.2 is Mandrake 7.x? not sure but have
  read some comments passing the requirements of Mandrake 8.x as
  the same as those of WinXP (meaning not for relatively slow
  processors).

 I've got 8.0 on a 200mhz with 128 megs of ram and it runs o.k. (no
 speed demon, but very useable).  It's pretty good with xfce and the
 xfce file manager, but konquerer and some of the other kde apps are
 slow loading. Opera is nice, but Netscape takes quite a while to
 load, so my recommendation with a slower machine and the 8.x
 distros is go toward minimalistic and it will o.k.

 Eye candy has a price.

Remember it's not the distro as such that sets the speed of the 
system, it's the kernel and, more importantly, what you're trying to 
get the kernel to handle.  Newer versions of software packages may 
run faster or slower, depending what the developers are up to: 
generally developers try to get their programs to work faster, but on 
the other hand, they also put in new features, which frequently slow 
them down, and sometimes assume that users have fast processors and 
tons of RAM.  

If speed is an issue, as Erylon said, cut down on the eye candy: use 
IceWM or Blackbox as your window manager rather than KDE or GNOME, 
use Mozilla instead of Netscape and only use Star Office if you have 
time on your hands.  It's also worth checking what services you're 
using, as it's very easy during installation to install and run 
daemons you don't really need, or don't need to have running all the 
time.  

If you prefer an older distribution, RH 6.0 and Mandrake 7.2 are both 
good (use RedHat if your CPU is older than a Pentium I), but unless 
your machine is a real antique, I'd wait for Mandrake 8.2.

Robin

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Re: [newbie] LM 8.1 vs Redhat 6.2

2002-01-11 Thread Erylon

On Friday 11 January 2002 06:10, you wrote:
 or the equivalent of RH6.2 is Mandrake 7.x? not sure but have read some
 comments passing the requirements of Mandrake 8.x as the same as those of
 WinXP (meaning not for relatively slow processors).

 just a thought...


I've got 8.0 on a 200mhz with 128 megs of ram and it runs o.k. (no speed 
demon, but very useable).  It's pretty good with xfce and the xfce file 
manager, but konquerer and some of the other kde apps are slow loading.  
Opera is nice, but Netscape takes quite a while to load, so my recommendation 
with a slower machine and the 8.x distros is go toward minimalistic and it 
will o.k.

Eye candy has a price.

e.




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[newbie] LM 8.1 vs Redhat 6.2

2002-01-10 Thread Gerald Waugh


I have a Redhat 6.2 system running on a 133 Mhz Pentium with 64 MB memory,
and
It is much faster than my LM 8.1 running on a 450 Mhz AMD K6, 256 MB memory
I mean the diff is probably 10X.

Does anyone have any ideas as to why the LM 8.1 would be so slow?

Gerald



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Re: [newbie] LM 8.1 vs Redhat 6.2

2002-01-10 Thread Ed Tharp

probly running some servers and/or services you don't need, and MDK runs them 
if you installed them by default. 

On Thursday 10 January 2002 08:29, you wrote:
 I have a Redhat 6.2 system running on a 133 Mhz Pentium with 64 MB memory,
 and
 It is much faster than my LM 8.1 running on a 450 Mhz AMD K6, 256 MB memory
 I mean the diff is probably 10X.

 Does anyone have any ideas as to why the LM 8.1 would be so slow?

 Gerald



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Re: [newbie] LM 8.1 vs Redhat 6.2

2002-01-10 Thread Anuerin G.Diaz


or the equivalent of RH6.2 is Mandrake 7.x? not sure but have read some comments 
passing the requirements of Mandrake 8.x as the same as those of WinXP (meaning not 
for relatively slow processors). 

just a thought...


On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:26:36 -0500
Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 probly running some servers and/or services you don't need, and MDK runs them 
 if you installed them by default. 
 
 On Thursday 10 January 2002 08:29, you wrote:
  I have a Redhat 6.2 system running on a 133 Mhz Pentium with 64 MB memory,
  and
  It is much faster than my LM 8.1 running on a 450 Mhz AMD K6, 256 MB memory
  I mean the diff is probably 10X.
 
  Does anyone have any ideas as to why the LM 8.1 would be so slow?
 
  Gerald
 
 
 


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Re: [newbie] LM 8.1 vs Redhat 6.2

2002-01-10 Thread Gerald Waugh

  On Thursday 10 January 2002 08:29, you wrote:
   I have a Redhat 6.2 system running on a 133 Mhz Pentium with 64 MB
   memory, and
   It is much faster than my LM 8.1 running on a 450 Mhz AMD K6, 256 MB
   memory I mean the diff is probably 10X.
  
   Does anyone have any ideas as to why the LM 8.1 would be so slow?
  
   Gerald
 On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:26:36 -0500
 Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  probly running some servers and/or services you don't need, and MDK runs
  them if you installed them by default.
 
On Friday 11 January 2002 09:10 am, Anuerin G.Diaz wrote:
 or the equivalent of RH6.2 is Mandrake 7.x? not sure but have read some
 comments passing the requirements of Mandrake 8.x as the same as those of
 WinXP (meaning not for relatively slow processors).

 just a thought...

8:42pm  up  1:17,  2 users,  load average: 1.59, 1.51, 1.32
57 processes: 56 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 20.9% user,  3.2% system,  0.0% nice, 75.8% idle
Mem:   247480K av,  214056K used,   33424K free,   0K shrd,   15764K buff
Swap:  248968K av,   0K used,  248968K free  118812K 
cached

I just ran top and the processor is not busy.
I wonder if it might be my harddrive slowing things down.
Te rehat system seemed to run KDE faster than Gnome.

Thanks for the input, I'll keep looking

Gerald



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