Re: [newbie] Learning Linux on a Pentium ?
On Thursday 24 July 2003 04:09, Erylon Hines wrote: From experience, the only distros that will work well on these machines are old (meaning less eye-candy) and out-of-date. I have a P75 with 32 meg that does fine on the 486 (Yes, 486) version of Mandrake 7.01. Those machines were tedious with any version (even 7.x) optimized for the Penium. RedHat 386 (circa 6.x) ran fine on a P90 with 32 megs. An old Caldera 2.4 was o.k. on a P75 with 16 megs, but nothin' to write home about. Can't give you any url's to dl, but at least some should be available. Where are you??, I could burn you a copy of mdk for 486 and mail it, if you are in the U.S. or Canada. No way I can load it to you--I'm on dial-up 8(. ]On Wednesday 23 July 2003 05:21 pm, ThinKer wrote: Hello All, I've just inherited two very old machines (Original Pentium with 16MB RAM each). I was wondering if there was anything I can download and install on these machines. They are currently running Windows 95 and they have Network cards already installed. I can put them on my network and browse the Intenet. I would like to install some flavor of Linux. Maybe a network or boot-floppy installation (since they only have 3.5 inch floppies) that will help me get more familiar with the way Linux works. Thanks, Thinker I had the best (that's talking speed) results with Slackware7.1 on a simular machine. If you want more modern stuf try out Slack9.1, but don't try KDE or Gnome. Using a leightweight window-manager makes it usable but fairly slow. If you can get your hands on more RAM you get much better resultsabove 64M you can even use a slow KDE3. Above that Mandrake9.1 will even run acceptably. Check out the speednix list Todd put up for more tips: http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux on a Pentium ?
Erylon Hines wrote: ]On Wednesday 23 July 2003 05:21 pm, ThinKer wrote: Hello All, I've just inherited two very old machines (Original Pentium with 16MB RAM each). I was wondering if there was anything I can download and install on these machines. They are currently running Windows 95 and they have Network cards already installed. I can put them on my network and browse the Intenet. I would like to install some flavor of Linux. Maybe a network or boot-floppy installation (since they only have 3.5 inch floppies) that will help me get more familiar with the way Linux works. Debian 'woody' requires only 12 mb of ram and 110 mb of hard disk space. Debian will run on 386 or higher. Of course this is an cli (command line interface) only system. Such as not an gui (graphical user interface). But if you are trying to learn 'linux' the cli is what you want. You can download with windows everything you need to get started. Debian is NOT an auto-install system, but the installation manual is very thorough. Be prepared to do a lot of reading learning. Debian is a throughly modern 'linux'. It has the best 'package' system. Once it is installed. you should never have to install it again. It can be upgrade to a new release 'in place'. HTH Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux on a Pentium ?
On Wednesday July 23 2003 09:09 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: From experience, the only distros that will work well on these machines are old (meaning less eye-candy) and out-of-date. I have a P75 with 32 meg that does fine on the 486 (Yes, 486) version of Mandrake 7.01. Those machines were tedious with any version (even 7.x) optimized for the Penium. RedHat 386 (circa 6.x) ran fine on a P90 with 32 megs. An old Caldera 2.4 was o.k. on a P75 with 16 megs, but nothin' to write home about. Can't give you any url's to dl, but at least some should be available. ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-iso/i586/mandrake70-2.i486.iso (631 MB) ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-iso/i586/md5sums.mandrake70-2.i486 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Learning Linux on a Pentium ?
Hello All, I've just inherited two very old machines (Original Pentium with 16MB RAM each). I was wondering if there was anything I can download and install on these machines. They are currently running Windows 95 and they have Network cards already installed. I can put them on my network and browse the Intenet. I would like to install some flavor of Linux. Maybe a network or boot-floppy installation (since they only have 3.5 inch floppies) that will help me get more familiar with the way Linux works. Thanks, Thinker Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux on a Pentium ?
From experience, the only distros that will work well on these machines are old (meaning less eye-candy) and out-of-date. I have a P75 with 32 meg that does fine on the 486 (Yes, 486) version of Mandrake 7.01. Those machines were tedious with any version (even 7.x) optimized for the Penium. RedHat 386 (circa 6.x) ran fine on a P90 with 32 megs. An old Caldera 2.4 was o.k. on a P75 with 16 megs, but nothin' to write home about. Can't give you any url's to dl, but at least some should be available. Where are you??, I could burn you a copy of mdk for 486 and mail it, if you are in the U.S. or Canada. No way I can load it to you--I'm on dial-up 8(. ]On Wednesday 23 July 2003 05:21 pm, ThinKer wrote: Hello All, I've just inherited two very old machines (Original Pentium with 16MB RAM each). I was wondering if there was anything I can download and install on these machines. They are currently running Windows 95 and they have Network cards already installed. I can put them on my network and browse the Intenet. I would like to install some flavor of Linux. Maybe a network or boot-floppy installation (since they only have 3.5 inch floppies) that will help me get more familiar with the way Linux works. Thanks, Thinker Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Learning Linux?
As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like "Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? Regards Gordon
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like "Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? All of the above. I would also recommend finding and joining a Linux User Group in your area. The LUG in my area (Jacksonville, Florida) is VERY good. Many of us bring our machines to the LUG for the Wizards to look at/fix. As for books, I find the 'dummies' series a bit too patronising. I like "Using Linux" by Jack Tackett Jr. and Steven Burnett. It is published by QUE (Excellent books!). Well worth the money. Regards, Ozz.
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
ihave linux mandrake for beginners and it wasnt very helpful it seems more like $25 for the mandrake 7.0 cd which i never used because i already had 7.1 In a message dated 13-Sep-00 05:57:17 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like "Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter?
RE: [newbie] Learning Linux?
Title: RE: [newbie] Learning Linux? Running Linux (O'Rielly Publishing) is an excellent reference. Dennis registered linux user #180834 or something like that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Learning Linux? ihave linux mandrake for beginners and it wasnt very helpful it seems more like $25 for the mandrake 7.0 cd which i never used because i already had 7.1 In a message dated 13-Sep-00 05:57:17 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like Linux for Dummies for example chapter by chapter?
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like "Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? Regards Gordon Three methods I found: 1. Loose X windows for a little while and learn some command line 2. Take a class :-) 3. Buy lots of books and learn to use man Look at me, I still don't know that much even after 2 years :-) Dan
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
Gordon -- I think you may find Linux is easier to learn if you're comfortable working in DOS. If not "dive in" like I did , you can always get help online as well as from textbooks -- Good Luck! [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gordon Burgess-Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie Linux Mandrake (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 12:00 PM Subject: [newbie] Learning Linux? As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like "Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? Regards Gordon
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like "Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? "Running Linux" (by now edition 3) by O'Reilly Associates is what I prefer reading and learning from. Paul -- The fiber of the mind weaves the fabric of reality http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like "Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? Regards Gordon -- IMO, get the O'Reilly book about Linux. I hear it is indispensible. Personally I have Peter Norton's guide to Linux. I tend to steer clear of the Dummies series, as they do not really go into the specifics, just generalities. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
The BEST method to learn this OS is to use it and get your own understanding of what you need to know. I couldn't tell you what you need to know, because other than the brief 'I know windows pretty well', I don't know what else you're familiar with. You might be a general user of Windows 95/98 or a systems admin of a small (or even large) Windows NT domain. That means you know Windows, both of them. I don't think that you can g wrong with most of the people's suggestions, but to them I add that you need to get used to doing things a little different, and mostly, use the resources here and at other mailing lists, and mostly, be patient in your expectations. You will have little trials and errors, because this is new to you, and you'll develop confidence after you begin, but only unanswered questions before you begin. Get your feet wet. Download (or order a copy of Linux like I do every time) a copy and burn some CDs. You'll have fun once you get things going a little at a time. Enjoy the victory(ies) of successful installs and correct configurations. This isn't childs-play just yet. It still requires some fortitude to get it right all the time. The best part of all is that you are not alone in this. Write for help often, even when you think that it's a simple question. Look at the archives of this message list. You couldn't go wrong with these people. Even though we have our minor disagreements, I am very glad that they are here! They are here (as well as me) for your support. Mostly, just enjoy the journey and the learning experience. It's something that not everyone can do (lots of reasons), but something that everyone could do (if they wanted to). This is only my opinion and I really have a great time with Linux. It's a great tool to learn from and use. Steve Weltman (from Los Angeles) - Original Message - From: "Jason Ashman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Learning Linux? On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like "Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? Regards Gordon -- IMO, get the O'Reilly book about Linux. I hear it is indispensible. Personally I have Peter Norton's guide to Linux. I tend to steer clear of the Dummies series, as they do not really go into the specifics, just generalities. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
