Re: [newbie] Linux Mandrake vs Linux Suse

[Mandrake Newbie]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Generally speaking I am thinking that US is not that
strong on Linux market. RedHat is of course an
american company but it looks that is not that popular
as these two distributions.


I don't have any comments about this.  Sorry.


If I would like to compare two distributions(see
Mandrake vs Suse) which should be the criteria ?

Can we say that Mandrake is more user firendly than
Suse ? or Suse is faster than Mandrake ?
Are out there some clear outlined criteria on
comparing these Linux distributions ?


I don't have any comments about this 'cause I wasn't able to use Suse in the first 
place.


The reason is that I am a developer currently working
on Microsoft platform but I intend to enlarge my skill
set and knowledge with Java. For me Java has a bright
future on Linux and this makes me to focus on Java
development.


Good for you.


At the moment I need a good distribution to stick to,
let's say... . I had the feeling that Suse is a more
solid Linux distro, a more Server and development
focused. I may be wrong thinking in this way, but this
is the feeling which I have.


Well, it depends on how you configure your box.  There's no such thing as best 
distro.


I think will not be bad for Mandrake to include in its
distro more support for developers and especially for
Java.

I suggest that the following things should be included
on further Mandrake distros:
1. Java JDK
2. Java JRE
3. Most Java Application Servers -- Jboss, Orion, etc
4. Java IDE such as: JBuilder, IBM VisualAge, etc
5. Borland's Kylix
6. Other IDE and tools which may be of interest for
developers.


That's actually a good suggestion but I don't think they will.  Those packages that 
you mentioned are not Open Source and basically, I don't think Sun, Borland, etc. 
will just permit Mandrake without this so-called partnership.  Just like what Suse 
and Oracle did.


Many of the tools presented above are open source or
could be easily included on Mandrake's cds distro. 


I don't think so.  As I've mentioned, those softwares are NOT Open Source, AFAIK.  
Besides, as what I've said, it is not that easy to include those softwares in their 
(Mandrake) next version 'cause it needs the permission of the companies' concerned.  
If that's the case, Mandrake should include StarOffice also or probably OpenOffice.

Keep cool!  =)

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Re: [newbie] Linux Mandrake vs Linux Suse

[Scott]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Dennis Myers wrote:

 On Sunday 18 November 2001 16:27, you wrote:
  I am using for quite a while LM. Personally I like
  Mandrake a lot, but I have been open toward other
  distributions also.
  It looks to me that the most popular distributions
  (imho) are:
  1. Mandrake
  2. Suse

Dennis:

I work at a large insurance carrier in the US and also do work for several 
ISP's.  I can tell you the breakdown is as follows:

Servers:  Almost always Red Hat.  The alliance with IBM and the support 
offerings have made Red Hat easier to get into the Enterprise.  Red Hat 
has done a good job to provide administration tools, yet still allow you 
to tweak the OS as much as you need.  

Desktop:  Here is where I am seeing Mandrake shine.  People I work with 
who would never consider Linux before beg to have me install Mandrake for 
them.  That can be good and bad.  Good because I have always liked the 
Mandrake distro, bad because they sit and play with my good lap top all 
day.  I was finally able to find Mandrake 8.1 Power Pack in the stores 
this weekend and I am happy to say I installed it in 30 minutes on my HP 
OmniBook 6000 lap top.  To the crew at Mandrake you did an EXCELLENT JOB.

As for Suse, it is a nice distro, and we have considered it here for 
running Oracle, but the biggest complaint I hear about them is the 
interface, especially during install.

I have run all 3 of them.  Currently I have Red Hat 7.2 on one machine, 
Mandrake 8.0 on another, Mandrake 8.1 on my lap top and I use Red Hat 7.1 
on my server.  

Bottom line is, you might have to try each one and decided what is most 
comfortable for YOU.  Me, I prefer Red Hat on my servers and Mandrake on 
my desktop.  The best part is, you can download and try each one, then I 
HIGHLY encourage you when you pick the one you like to SUPPORT them and go 
and purchase the CD pack.  

-Scott






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