Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
Franki wrote: no, your problem is that your machines are on different subnets.. as a test, set your XP machine up to use IP 192.168.0.1 and your linux box to use 192.168.0.2 and your netmask to both as 255.255.255.0 then restart the networking on both, and try pinging,, it will work if your network cards are working. I don't really understand why you see the need to do this, what is assigning the IP for the XP machine? and why isn't it also assigning one for the linux box? Well I guess he's letting his ISP assign an IP to his Windows box so it will work on his DSL line (or whatever). I get around a similar problem by running NAT, but I'm trying to think of a solution for him. One way would be to run NAT (I think that's the basis of Microsoft Internet sharing or whatever they call it, and then continue to use IPs as you suggested in the second quoted paragraph above). But, I've never set up Microsoft Internet sharing so I don't know how to tell him (the original poster) to do that. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im not using a net sharing program, i connect via modem and just want to use the web server on Linux. So, let's hear more about what you're trying to do. You have a Windows box and a Linux box. The Windows box is connected to the Internet (via modem), and gets a dynamic IP address using DHCP from your ISP. You want to run a web server on the Linux box. Do you want that web server accessible on the Internet or just on your private LAN (Windows box plus Linux box)? Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
if he has dsl, it would be on a different card to the internal interface... depending on his setup, if he has two NIC's in his PC, one for the internal net and the other for his DSL link, then they should both have their own IP address. people seem to forget that its the interface that gets the IP, not the machine itself. so whatever interface the DSL comes up as should have that IP, and whatever card does the internal network interface should have its own internal IP as well. if you have your DSL modem plugged into the hub and you are accessing it like that, I suggest you go and get a second NIC, plug it into your gateway machine, and use that with a crossover cable to connect the modem to that PC.. (assuming its an ethernet dsl modem like we have.) that way, you have eth0 with could be your internal network interface card. and eth1, which would be your DSL internet interface.. then you set your gateway device to eth1. I don't use a gateway ip.. in my network settings, I remove the GATEWAY=* entry and add GATEWAYDEV=eth1 (thats in /etc/sysconfig/network ) that way the gateway IP doesn't matter.. works great for me. so in summary. Specify the relevant IP's for each interface, make sure you have seperate interface for Internal and external (internet) connections. bobs your uncle. rgds Frank. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randy Kramer Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2002 9:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP Franki wrote: no, your problem is that your machines are on different subnets.. as a test, set your XP machine up to use IP 192.168.0.1 and your linux box to use 192.168.0.2 and your netmask to both as 255.255.255.0 then restart the networking on both, and try pinging,, it will work if your network cards are working. I don't really understand why you see the need to do this, what is assigning the IP for the XP machine? and why isn't it also assigning one for the linux box? Well I guess he's letting his ISP assign an IP to his Windows box so it will work on his DSL line (or whatever). I get around a similar problem by running NAT, but I'm trying to think of a solution for him. One way would be to run NAT (I think that's the basis of Microsoft Internet sharing or whatever they call it, and then continue to use IPs as you suggested in the second quoted paragraph above). But, I've never set up Microsoft Internet sharing so I don't know how to tell him (the original poster) to do that. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
In a message dated 2/22/2002 9:21:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sorry ... not enough coffee yet ... what i meant to ask was, "shouldn't he be able to ping even without samba installed?" ... with apache on my linux box, i could use a browser to reach the linux box with no problems ... apache is installed on the Linux bos, there is also a server on the XP box, netiher can see each other ~Lance
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
In a message dated 2/22/2002 12:41:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i agree, it is way too early, i meant subnet. what netmask have you got? i am going back to leep. im not sure where to find that at... sorry, im new at this too... ~Lance
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
In a message dated 2/22/2002 11:58:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, he should. what are the addresses and gateways on the respective machines? is there a gateway disagreement? The Windows gateway is 255.255.0.0. when i try to give that the the Linux box thee ip structure fails. ~Lance
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Windows gateway is 255.255.0.0. when i try to give that the the Linux box thee ip structure fails. There is some confusion here -- we need the IP address of the Windows gateway -- normally it is not a number like 255.255.0.0 -- that is more likely the network mask. Assuming the windows machine is the gateway to the Internet, it is the IP address of the Windows box that you need to plug into the Linux box as the gateway address. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
does the fact that one is dhcp and the other isnt have anything to do with it? ~Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
On Saturday 23 February 2002 02:31 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does the fact that one is dhcp and the other isnt have anything to do with it? Windows XP: IP: 169.254.240.126 using dhcp Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0 Linux: IP: 192.168.0.1 using static Mask: 255.255.0.0 Well, they need to be on the same network to talk to each other. Your best bet is to get a router, with a built in hub/switch. They only cost 40 to 50 us$. SMC DLINK or Linksys Then DSL | Router | | LinuxXP -- Gerald Waugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
no, your problem is that your machines are on different subnets.. as a test, set your XP machine up to use IP 192.168.0.1 and your linux box to use 192.168.0.2 and your netmask to both as 255.255.255.0 then restart the networking on both, and try pinging,, it will work if your network cards are working. then fire up samba and see if they can see each other. if you have configured samba correctly, then they well. you currently have machines that are on completely different subnets, and worse, one is a private allocated range (can't be routed over the internet without NAT.) and the other isn't.. so you need to do something about that. I don't really understand why you see the need to do this, what is assigning the IP for the XP machine? and why isn't it also assigning one for the linux box? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2002 3:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP does the fact that one is dhcp and the other isnt have anything to do with it? ~Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
forgive me if this question is silly, but should he be able to ping even without samba installed? if i remember correctly, that was MY experience so i'm thinking the problem may be somewhere else (but BELIEVE ME, i'm the greenest of the newbies, so i could certainly be wrong) ... - Original Message - From: Mithrilhall2000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:51 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux and Win XP I have XPprofessional and Mandrake 8.1 networked and working fine. Do you have Samba setup yet and if so do you have a user (with the same name) on each computer with the same password (same on each computer)? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: February 21, 2002 6:05 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XPIn a message dated 2/21/2002 8:57:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have heard that XP is crippled in the networking area if you run the home edition. do you have home or pro? professional Any luck networking Linux and Win XP? I cant get the Linux box to log on on dhcp. It will make a static connection at 192.168.0.1 but Win XP can not see it. Neither machine can ping each other. Neither machine is running a firewall.
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
sorry ... not enough coffee yet ... what i meant to ask was, "shouldn't he be able to ping even without samba installed?" ... with apache on my linux box, i could use a browser to reach the linux box with no problems ... - Original Message - From: Kenn Yahoo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP forgive me if this question is silly, but should he be able to ping even without samba installed? if i remember correctly, that was MY experience so i'm thinking the problem may be somewhere else (but BELIEVE ME, i'm the greenest of the newbies, so i could certainly be wrong) ... - Original Message - From: Mithrilhall2000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:51 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux and Win XP I have XPprofessional and Mandrake 8.1 networked and working fine. Do you have Samba setup yet and if so do you have a user (with the same name) on each computer with the same password (same on each computer)? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: February 21, 2002 6:05 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XPIn a message dated 2/21/2002 8:57:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have heard that XP is crippled in the networking area if you run the home edition. do you have home or pro? professional Any luck networking Linux and Win XP? I cant get the Linux box to log on on dhcp. It will make a static connection at 192.168.0.1 but Win XP can not see it. Neither machine can ping each other. Neither machine is running a firewall.
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
yes, he should. what are the addresses and gateways on the respective machines? is there a gateway disagreement? On Friday 22 February 2002 06:10, Kenn Yahoo opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: sorry ... not enough coffee yet ... what i meant to ask was, shouldn't he be able to ping even without samba installed? ... with apache on my linux box, i could use a browser to reach the linux box with no problems -- If Microsoft is innovative in any area, it is in creating new forms of intimidation. - Ralph Nader shane http://shentzu.home.mindspring.com/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org/ cause humans do it better! Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
i agree, it is way too early, i meant subnet. what netmask have you got? i am going back to leep. On Friday 22 February 2002 08:53, shane opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: yes, he should. what are the addresses and gateways on the respective machines? is there a gateway disagreement? -- ...in a world without walls or fences, we wouldn't need windows or gates. shane http://shentzu.home.mindspring.com/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org/ cause humans do it better! Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux and Win XP
Any luck networking Linux and Win XP? I cant get the Linux box to log on on dhcp. It will make a static connection at 192.168.0.1 but Win XP can not see it. Neither machine can ping each other. Neither machine is running a firewall. Thanks in advance ~Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
i have heard that XP is crippled in the networking area if you run the home edition. do you have home or pro? On Thursday 21 February 2002 17:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: Any luck networking Linux and Win XP? I cant get the Linux box to log on on dhcp. It will make a static connection at 192.168.0.1 but Win XP can not see it. Neither machine can ping each other. Neither machine is running a firewall. Thanks in advance ~Lance -- ... and if you drown, die knowing you were headed for the shore. -from farenheight 451 shane http://shentzu.home.mindspring.com/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org/ cause humans do it better! Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
In a message dated 2/21/2002 8:57:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have heard that XP is crippled in the networking area if you run the home edition. do you have home or pro? professional
RE: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
I have XPprofessional and Mandrake 8.1 networked and working fine. Do you have Samba setup yet and if so do you have a user (with the same name) on each computer with the same password (same on each computer)? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: February 21, 2002 6:05 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XPIn a message dated 2/21/2002 8:57:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have heard that XP is crippled in the networking area if you run the home edition. do you have home or pro?professional
