Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released

2003-08-04 Thread John Richard Smith
Dennis Myers wrote:

On Sunday 03 August 2003 10:04 am, ed tharp wrote:
 

On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 11:15, John Richard Smith wrote:
   

===
Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released.
Mandrake Linux 9.2 Beta 1 has arrived to offer you the opportunity of
summertime bug squashing. Join forces with the Mandrake Development team
by installing the Beta then submitting bug reports. Remember: This
release is for testing purposes only and is not suitable for production
machines. Learn all the details:
http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
*http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
===
How to report bugs*
Bugs must be submitted to BugZilla http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ and
technical discussions (for developers) are hosted on the Cooker mailing
list.
==

So how does one in all practicle terms do this on a 56kdialup modem.

By the time I've downloaded 3 iso's , done the md5sum's, written the
iso's to disc, tested the discs to be faithful reproductions,  installed
OS, done a minimum of half a  day's  post install reconfiguring, to get
it up and running, and then probably a week's fiddling around in all the
apps looking for faults to report ,   mandrake have gone on to bets2 or
beta3 releases.
John
 

Tom Brinkman has posted some directions (I think it may have been on the
expert list) about how to do this. basically it involves getting setup
and updating only as cooker is updated, and not re-downloading the
complete ISOs, just sucking down the changes. Search the archives for
cooker update ought to help
   

Right, once you have the first beta d/l'd cooker updates work or you  should 
be able to run rsync to cut down time to d/l new beta's or release 
candidates.  Rsync only d/l's the changes. See man rsync or google cause 
there are some good tutorials on it. HTH
 

 

So which is best ,
slap in a repeat of my already configured and pretty well running M9.1
using a drive image programme.
write a stanza to boot it.
and then urpmi that as far as possible, which would have to be done at
night  as It's the only chance I have to get about 2 hours uniterrupted
install.
or ,

download the  3 iso cd's and burn to disks and install etc. and then
urpmi this install.
from my point of view the first option is quicker.

John

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released

2003-08-04 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 03 August 2003 04:04 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Sunday 03 August 2003 10:04 am, ed tharp wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 11:15, John Richard Smith wrote:
 ===
 Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released.
 Mandrake Linux 9.2 Beta 1 has arrived to offer you the opportunity of
 summertime bug squashing. Join forces with the Mandrake Development team
 by installing the Beta then submitting bug reports. Remember: This
 release is for testing purposes only and is not suitable for production
 machines. Learn all the details:
 http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
 
 
 *http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
 ===
 How to report bugs*
 Bugs must be submitted to BugZilla http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ and
 technical discussions (for developers) are hosted on the Cooker mailing
 list.
 
 ==
 
 So how does one in all practicle terms do this on a 56kdialup modem.
 
 By the time I've downloaded 3 iso's , done the md5sum's, written the
 iso's to disc, tested the discs to be faithful reproductions,  installed
 OS, done a minimum of half a  day's  post install reconfiguring, to get
 it up and running, and then probably a week's fiddling around in all the
 apps looking for faults to report ,   mandrake have gone on to bets2 or
 beta3 releases.
 
 John
 
 Tom Brinkman has posted some directions (I think it may have been on the
 expert list) about how to do this. basically it involves getting setup
 and updating only as cooker is updated, and not re-downloading the
 complete ISOs, just sucking down the changes. Search the archives for
 cooker update ought to help
 
 Right, once you have the first beta d/l'd cooker updates work or you 
  should be able to run rsync to cut down time to d/l new beta's or
  release candidates.  Rsync only d/l's the changes. See man rsync or
  google cause there are some good tutorials on it. HTH

 So which is best ,
 slap in a repeat of my already configured and pretty well running M9.1
 using a drive image programme.
 write a stanza to boot it.
 and then urpmi that as far as possible, which would have to be done at
 night  as It's the only chance I have to get about 2 hours uniterrupted
 install.

 or ,

 download the  3 iso cd's and burn to disks and install etc. and then
 urpmi this install.

 from my point of view the first option is quicker.


 John
I don't know for sure which is faster. I don't know for sure what the first is 
for. For Beta testing the d/l and then do a rsync on one of the mirrors for 
beta 2 , 3 etc would be faster. My guess, again not sure how much change will 
be made between betas.  My $.02
-- 
Dennis M. linux user #180842

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released

2003-08-03 Thread Aron Smith
On Sunday 03 August 2003 08:15 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 ===
 Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released.
 Mandrake Linux 9.2 Beta 1 has arrived to offer you the opportunity of
 summertime bug squashing. Join forces with the Mandrake Development team by
 installing the Beta then submitting bug reports. Remember: This release is
 for testing purposes only and is not suitable for production machines.
 Learn all the details: http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3


 *http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
 ===
 How to report bugs*
 Bugs must be submitted to BugZilla http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ and
 technical discussions (for developers) are hosted on the Cooker mailing
 list.

 ==

 So how does one in all practicle terms do this on a 56kdialup modem.

 By the time I've downloaded 3 iso's , done the md5sum's, written the
 iso's to disc, tested the discs to be faithful reproductions,  installed
 OS, done a minimum of half a  day's  post install reconfiguring, to get
 it up and running, and then probably a week's fiddling around in all the
 apps looking for faults to report ,   mandrake have gone on to bets2 or
 beta3 releases.

 John
No Arguement there but rembember 300 baud modems it could be worse |;-)


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[newbie] Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released

2003-08-03 Thread John Richard Smith
===
Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released.
Mandrake Linux 9.2 Beta 1 has arrived to offer you the opportunity of summertime bug 
squashing. Join forces with the Mandrake Development team by installing the Beta then 
submitting bug reports. Remember: This release is for testing purposes only and is not 
suitable for production machines. Learn all the details:
http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
*http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
===
How to report bugs*
Bugs must be submitted to BugZilla http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ and 
technical discussions (for developers) are hosted on the Cooker mailing 
list.

==

So how does one in all practicle terms do this on a 56kdialup modem.

By the time I've downloaded 3 iso's , done the md5sum's, written the 
iso's to disc, tested the discs to be faithful reproductions,  installed 
OS, done a minimum of half a  day's  post install reconfiguring, to get 
it up and running, and then probably a week's fiddling around in all the 
apps looking for faults to report ,   mandrake have gone on to bets2 or 
beta3 releases.

John

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released

2003-08-03 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 11:15, John Richard Smith wrote:
 ===
 Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released.
 Mandrake Linux 9.2 Beta 1 has arrived to offer you the opportunity of summertime bug 
 squashing. Join forces with the Mandrake Development team by installing the Beta 
 then submitting bug reports. Remember: This release is for testing purposes only and 
 is not suitable for production machines. Learn all the details:
 http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
 
 
 *http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
 ===
 How to report bugs*
 Bugs must be submitted to BugZilla http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ and 
 technical discussions (for developers) are hosted on the Cooker mailing 
 list.
 
 ==
 
 So how does one in all practicle terms do this on a 56kdialup modem.
 
 By the time I've downloaded 3 iso's , done the md5sum's, written the 
 iso's to disc, tested the discs to be faithful reproductions,  installed 
 OS, done a minimum of half a  day's  post install reconfiguring, to get 
 it up and running, and then probably a week's fiddling around in all the 
 apps looking for faults to report ,   mandrake have gone on to bets2 or 
 beta3 releases.
 
 John

Tom Brinkman has posted some directions (I think it may have been on the
expert list) about how to do this. basically it involves getting setup
and updating only as cooker is updated, and not re-downloading the
complete ISOs, just sucking down the changes. Search the archives for
cooker update ought to help


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released

2003-08-03 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 03 August 2003 10:04 am, ed tharp wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 11:15, John Richard Smith wrote:
  ===
  Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released.
  Mandrake Linux 9.2 Beta 1 has arrived to offer you the opportunity of
  summertime bug squashing. Join forces with the Mandrake Development team
  by installing the Beta then submitting bug reports. Remember: This
  release is for testing purposes only and is not suitable for production
  machines. Learn all the details:
  http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
 
 
  *http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
  ===
  How to report bugs*
  Bugs must be submitted to BugZilla http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ and
  technical discussions (for developers) are hosted on the Cooker mailing
  list.
 
  ==
 
  So how does one in all practicle terms do this on a 56kdialup modem.
 
  By the time I've downloaded 3 iso's , done the md5sum's, written the
  iso's to disc, tested the discs to be faithful reproductions,  installed
  OS, done a minimum of half a  day's  post install reconfiguring, to get
  it up and running, and then probably a week's fiddling around in all the
  apps looking for faults to report ,   mandrake have gone on to bets2 or
  beta3 releases.
 
  John

 Tom Brinkman has posted some directions (I think it may have been on the
 expert list) about how to do this. basically it involves getting setup
 and updating only as cooker is updated, and not re-downloading the
 complete ISOs, just sucking down the changes. Search the archives for
 cooker update ought to help
Right, once you have the first beta d/l'd cooker updates work or you  should 
be able to run rsync to cut down time to d/l new beta's or release 
candidates.  Rsync only d/l's the changes. See man rsync or google cause 
there are some good tutorials on it. HTH
-- 
Dennis M. linux user #180842

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released

2003-08-03 Thread John Richard Smith
Dennis Myers wrote:

On Sunday 03 August 2003 10:04 am, ed tharp wrote:
 

On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 11:15, John Richard Smith wrote:
   

===
Mandrake 9.2 Beta 1 Released.
Mandrake Linux 9.2 Beta 1 has arrived to offer you the opportunity of
summertime bug squashing. Join forces with the Mandrake Development team
by installing the Beta then submitting bug reports. Remember: This
release is for testing purposes only and is not suitable for production
machines. Learn all the details:
http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
*http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
===
How to report bugs*
Bugs must be submitted to BugZilla http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ and
technical discussions (for developers) are hosted on the Cooker mailing
list.
==

So how does one in all practicle terms do this on a 56kdialup modem.

By the time I've downloaded 3 iso's , done the md5sum's, written the
iso's to disc, tested the discs to be faithful reproductions,  installed
OS, done a minimum of half a  day's  post install reconfiguring, to get
it up and running, and then probably a week's fiddling around in all the
apps looking for faults to report ,   mandrake have gone on to bets2 or
beta3 releases.
John
 

Tom Brinkman has posted some directions (I think it may have been on the
expert list) about how to do this. basically it involves getting setup
and updating only as cooker is updated, and not re-downloading the
complete ISOs, just sucking down the changes. Search the archives for
cooker update ought to help
   

Right, once you have the first beta d/l'd cooker updates work or you  should 
be able to run rsync to cut down time to d/l new beta's or release 
candidates.  Rsync only d/l's the changes. See man rsync or google cause 
there are some good tutorials on it. HTH
 

 

So which is best ,
slap in a repeat of my already configured and pretty well running M9.1
using a drive image programme.
write a stanza to boot it.
and then urpmi that as far as possible, which would have to be done at 
night  as It's the only chance I have to get about 2 hours uniterrupted 
install.

or ,

download the  3 iso cd's and burn to disks and install etc. and then 
urpmi this install.

from my point of view the first option is quicker.

John

--
John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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