Re: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem

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On Monday 17 February 2003 03:53 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> All,
>
> I reinstalled beta 3 and it did not work again. Seems like there is a
> bit of a problem with Realtek network cards. Mine is a RTL 8139 but
> there is a guy on the cooker list with a RTL8129 with the same problem.
> The route for the gateway is setup eth0 is there everything seems fine.
> So it looks like this is a show stopper for beta 3 for me and anyone
> else with a realtek card. Yes I have done the acpi=off and so had he. It
> has been logged at bugzilla
> https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1566 so now it's wait and
> see.
>
> Tony.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem
>
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> On Thursday 13 February 2003 06:40 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I installed beta 3 last night on my system (formatted /, /usr and /var
> > but kept /home), everything seems fine except for the internet
> > connection. I have a realtek 8139 card. The mcc says the lan is up but
> > not the internet (have to run mcc from command line as menu icon does
> > not work). I had no probs with 9.0 and when I boot into windows the
> > internet is there. I looked through cooker list last night and could
>
> not
>
> > find anything similar to my problem so I assume that it is a settings
> > problem. Do I need to remove some of the hidden directories from my
>
> home
>
> > dir, and if so which ones, as I have a lot for programs I want to keep
> > the settings for?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony.
>
> Do you have a newer motherboard.  Some newer hardware, particularly
> mobos with
> VIA chipsets, does not have acpi implemented properly in the kernel,
> which
> causes what you are describing.
>
> Try hitting the esc key when the LILO menu comes up and typing the
> following
> at the prompt:
>
> linux noapic acpi=off
>
> and see if that solves the problem.
>
> If it does, upgrade your beta 3 kernel to the latest one in Cooker and
> see if
> that fixes the problem also.  It did for my machine.
>
> /g
>
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RE: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem

[Tony S. Sykes]

Greg,

Don't worry, I still struggle to remember to turn off return receipts
for posts to the lists. Thanks for trying anyway.

Tony.

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From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:56 PM
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On Monday 17 February 2003 07:20 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> Greg,
>
> As mentioned in the previous mail, I have done the acpi=off. Thanks
for
> the help but you have told me to do this 3 times now, it didn't work
the
> first time and it didn't work for the guy I mentioned from cooker
> either.
>
Sorry for the duplication.  That fix has solved the problem for so many
people 
it has been an automatic response everytime I see someone with a network
problem in beta3.   I did realize after I posted that you were
responding to 
a previous post from me.  My mistake.

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RE: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem

[Tony S. Sykes]

All,

I reinstalled beta 3 and it did not work again. Seems like there is a
bit of a problem with Realtek network cards. Mine is a RTL 8139 but
there is a guy on the cooker list with a RTL8129 with the same problem.
The route for the gateway is setup eth0 is there everything seems fine.
So it looks like this is a show stopper for beta 3 for me and anyone
else with a realtek card. Yes I have done the acpi=off and so had he. It
has been logged at bugzilla
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1566 so now it's wait and
see.

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem


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On Thursday 13 February 2003 06:40 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I installed beta 3 last night on my system (formatted /, /usr and /var
> but kept /home), everything seems fine except for the internet
> connection. I have a realtek 8139 card. The mcc says the lan is up but
> not the internet (have to run mcc from command line as menu icon does
> not work). I had no probs with 9.0 and when I boot into windows the
> internet is there. I looked through cooker list last night and could
not
> find anything similar to my problem so I assume that it is a settings
> problem. Do I need to remove some of the hidden directories from my
home
> dir, and if so which ones, as I have a lot for programs I want to keep
> the settings for?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony.
>
>
Do you have a newer motherboard.  Some newer hardware, particularly
mobos with 
VIA chipsets, does not have acpi implemented properly in the kernel,
which 
causes what you are describing.

Try hitting the esc key when the LILO menu comes up and typing the
following 
at the prompt:

linux noapic acpi=off

and see if that solves the problem.

If it does, upgrade your beta 3 kernel to the latest one in Cooker and
see if 
that fixes the problem also.  It did for my machine.

/g
  

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Re: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem

[Greg Meyer]

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On Friday 14 February 2003 05:26 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> Thanks LX but I have worked round the problem already (will keep for
> future though) after a few hours of playing last night. I reinstalled
> 9.0 and obviously the network was fine, then I installed kde 3.1 from
> clubtest and the network stopped again. I removed kde 3.1 and then
> removed the hidden kde directories then reinstalled and it is working on
> 9.0. It looks like there is some kind of incompatibility between some
> 3.0 settings and 3.1 in the kde directories. I am going to install beta
> 3 tonight and I expect it to work fine now. I did run ifconfig though
> and all settings seemed to be correct.
>
Do you have new motherboard?  A lot of network problems on beta3 were caused 
by acpi on newer motherboards.  Try booting the kernel with noapic and 
acpi=off boot parameters.
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RE: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem

[Tony S. Sykes]

Thanks LX but I have worked round the problem already (will keep for
future though) after a few hours of playing last night. I reinstalled
9.0 and obviously the network was fine, then I installed kde 3.1 from
clubtest and the network stopped again. I removed kde 3.1 and then
removed the hidden kde directories then reinstalled and it is working on
9.0. It looks like there is some kind of incompatibility between some
3.0 settings and 3.1 in the kde directories. I am going to install beta
3 tonight and I expect it to work fine now. I did run ifconfig though
and all settings seemed to be correct.

Thanks,

Tony.

ps one day I will spend some time looking into booting more than one
Linux.
pps My cable connection was screwy last night and for some reason I was
on a 1 meg pipe and not the usual 600k. ha

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Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:47 AM
To: NewbieMandrake-List
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem


On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 06:40, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I installed beta 3 last night on my system (formatted /, /usr and /var
> but kept /home), everything seems fine except for the internet
> connection. I have a realtek 8139 card. The mcc says the lan is up but
> not the internet (have to run mcc from command line as menu icon does
> not work). I had no probs with 9.0 and when I boot into windows the
> internet is there. I looked through cooker list last night and could
not
> find anything similar to my problem so I assume that it is a settings
> problem. Do I need to remove some of the hidden directories from my
home
> dir, and if so which ones, as I have a lot for programs I want to keep
> the settings for?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tony.


I don't think that you are isolated in this problem.  I had exactly the
same difficulty and have been forced to manually configure the network
routes since installing Beta 3.  Run "ifconfig" from a root command line
and make sure that "eth0" exists and also has an IP address assigned to
it.

If eth0 exists, but has no IP address assigned, then do

ifconfig eth0  your.box.ip.number

After that you need to manually configure the route to your gateway.  If
you have a persistent connection like I do, and your gateway is a cable
modem or similar, then you do the following:

route add default gw your.gateway.ip.number eth0

If you have a modem connection, then if I remember correctly you connect
with kppp or similar utility, and then use the IP that your ISP assigns
to your modem connection as the gateway.

Now try to ping out to a public IP to test.


HTH

LX
  

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[newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem

[Tony S. Sykes]

Hi all,

I installed beta 3 last night on my system (formatted /, /usr and /var
but kept /home), everything seems fine except for the internet
connection. I have a realtek 8139 card. The mcc says the lan is up but
not the internet (have to run mcc from command line as menu icon does
not work). I had no probs with 9.0 and when I boot into windows the
internet is there. I looked through cooker list last night and could not
find anything similar to my problem so I assume that it is a settings
problem. Do I need to remove some of the hidden directories from my home
dir, and if so which ones, as I have a lot for programs I want to keep
the settings for?

Thanks,

Tony.
  

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