Re: [newbie] Mixed Doze/Linux startup problem

[John Rigby]

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:09, your wisdom was such..:

 make a linux boot disk, this will get you back to linux after you
 wipe out the mbr using a win/dos boot disk and type ...-let me get
 this right, either 'fdisk /mbr' or 'format /mbr' 
 
** Oh Yes! It is fdisk /MBR 


 you mean that win doesn't see another dos/win drive that is there?

*** Not a Drive - a partition, f: 
M8 sees it and uses it.

 depending on your version of windows it is possible to rename a
 couple of files and do an 'upgrade' over itself, i think that this
 is usually only necessary when trying with an 'oem' version, full

*** It is OEM  - I've just forgotten how to do it  :-(

Thanks,

Cheers,
him again



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Re: [newbie] Mixed Doze/Linux startup problem

[Brian Parish]

John,

Based on what I have gleaned from installing Bastille firewalls, it
seems that if you have physical access to the console, you should be
able to get over the lack of a root password - at least if you haven't
taken very specific action to secure against this.  Can I suggest you
pose this question specifically on the expert list?  Having the root
password would certainly be a bit useful in these circumstances.

Brian

On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 17:52, John Rigby wrote:
 Hi folks,
 Nobody seriously expects Windoze to stay up, but this is ridiculous:
 Sudenly it won't boot properly.
 System is a W98SE on Celeron 500 + 256K + 20gig
 
 Only real changes recently were to get rid of the MS Spy system files 
 following a hand from someone about another problem of almost 
 permanent modem activity picked up by good ol' Zone Alarm. ( It 
 stopped it. More later) However the system did boot following that 
 exercise ok. 
  
 It has Mandrake8.0 on it via lilo booter.
 1. M8 boots happily. Can see Drive f: W98 ok
 2. Under M8 no problems at all re system.
 
 W98:
 1. Boots as far as pre-screen (blue)display and stops.  No eggtimer, 
 but correct 800 cursor.  Can C-A-D and it shows no processes running 
 to cancel. 
 
 2. Won't start in safe mode.
 
 3. Will start in C: mode.
 
 4. In C mode cannot see Drive F: (last partition)  NOTE: it is there 
 and ok under Linux.
 
 5. Progressive error functions:
 i. On different attempts reports different files missing/unsuccessful 
 in logs.
  ii Even told me it couldn't start due to file size limitations at 
 one stage... 
 
 REINSTALL
 1.  REports unable to upgrade system - get an upgrade disk.
 
 2. Next time reported No FAT table unable to proceed.  Remove 
 alternate booting program and boot from dos.  
  
 THE FUN PART:
 
 I gave up on Mandrake 8 after trying to get sound and cd to work on 
 it after 3 months of trying and it is just sitting there. Catch is 
 I've forgotten the SU password!!! Have it hidden somewhere which I 
 also forgot.:-)
 
 BOTH opsys have stuff on them I want. But that's life. However, 
 anyone with not too complex suggestions most welcome.
 
 There WAS a way to do something about the W98 reload. rename 
 win.com and.
 
 There was a way to simply delete the lilo but how to get back to 
 Linux then? 
 
 -- 
 Cheers,
 him again
 
 
 

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Re: [newbie] Mixed Doze/Linux startup problem

[bascule]

make a linux boot disk, this will get you back to linux after you wipe out 
the mbr using a win/dos boot disk and type ...-let me get this right, either 
'fdisk /mbr' or 'format /mbr' i think it's the former because it's odd that 
it isn't a switch to the latter, did you mean that win doesn't see another 
dos/win drive that is there? have you used fdisk in linux to examine the 
partitions and see what types it thinks they are, type-as root:
#fdisk /dev/hda (or whatever is your had drive device)
'm' gives you menu, 'p' shows you your partitions o that drive, look at their 
ids and compare then with the ones listed by typing 'l'
simply deleting files from windows shouldn't affect partitions like that 
though, did you do anything else, what about in linux?

depending on your version of windows it is possible to rename a couple of 
files and do an 'upgrade' over itself, i think that this is usually only 
necessary when trying with an 'oem' version, full retail will install over 
themselves noproblem - except that they still apply free space requirements 
even though most of the install will overwite what's already there

any help

bascule

 There was a way to simply delete the lilo but how to get back to
 Linux then?



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