RE: [newbie] Newbie Orientation
Carter, If you have got webmin running all you have to do is http://www.yourdomain.com:1/ and it should be fine. Tony. -Original Message- From: H. Carter Harris [mailto:carter-lists;technettn.net] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 6:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Newbie Orientation I have an almost virgin install of ML8.2 running and I am trying to bring up some sever applications. So far the only one I have in a usable state is TightVNC and though I haven't tuned it the way I want it ... it is running nicely. I have the box on a private IP address and the router is using NAT to send VNC requests to the box. During the install, Apache, BIND, and PostFix and MySQL were installed with defaults and now I want to use them. To try to educate myself, I bought the O'Reilly books on Apache and BIND and have been working my way through them. I installed and have running M$ DNS (on a 2000 box), IIS (on a NT4 box), a mail server (not Exchange) so I have some experience with these type applications. Here is one problem I keep running into: I can't find stuff. For example, Webmin was also installed on this system (after the initial install) from the Mandrake CDs. I executed it when I was infront of computer so I think it is working. Then for documentation I go to the webmin site and they tell me the rpm installs this application in /usr/libexec/webmin. When I go there and try to list the files; there is no such folder. I want to configure webmin to run under apache. I locate the documentation for putting webmin in a virtual folder and the first sentence says: Create a new Apache virtual server with the document set to the directory where you installed Webmin. How do I find out where that was done? If there is more technical/detailed information on the Mandrake installation process, I would appreciate a link to that place. Thanks in advance, Carter. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:David.Hamnett-Taylor;BCPSoftware.com immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Newbie Orientation
Oooops, https not http. Tony. -Original Message- From: H. Carter Harris [mailto:carter-lists;technettn.net] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 6:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Newbie Orientation I have an almost virgin install of ML8.2 running and I am trying to bring up some sever applications. So far the only one I have in a usable state is TightVNC and though I haven't tuned it the way I want it ... it is running nicely. I have the box on a private IP address and the router is using NAT to send VNC requests to the box. During the install, Apache, BIND, and PostFix and MySQL were installed with defaults and now I want to use them. To try to educate myself, I bought the O'Reilly books on Apache and BIND and have been working my way through them. I installed and have running M$ DNS (on a 2000 box), IIS (on a NT4 box), a mail server (not Exchange) so I have some experience with these type applications. Here is one problem I keep running into: I can't find stuff. For example, Webmin was also installed on this system (after the initial install) from the Mandrake CDs. I executed it when I was infront of computer so I think it is working. Then for documentation I go to the webmin site and they tell me the rpm installs this application in /usr/libexec/webmin. When I go there and try to list the files; there is no such folder. I want to configure webmin to run under apache. I locate the documentation for putting webmin in a virtual folder and the first sentence says: Create a new Apache virtual server with the document set to the directory where you installed Webmin. How do I find out where that was done? If there is more technical/detailed information on the Mandrake installation process, I would appreciate a link to that place. Thanks in advance, Carter. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:David.Hamnett-Taylor;BCPSoftware.com immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Newbie Orientation
Thanks Tony! ... It is working now ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Tony S. Sykes Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Newbie Orientation Carter, If you have got webmin running all you have to do is http://www.yourdomain.com:1/ and it should be fine. Tony. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Newbie Orientation
On Sunday 03 Nov 2002 6:47 pm, H. Carter Harris wrote: I have an almost virgin install of ML8.2 running and I am trying to bring up some sever applications. So far the only one I have in a usable state is TightVNC and though I haven't tuned it the way I want it ... it is running nicely. I have the box on a private IP address and the router is using NAT to send VNC requests to the box. During the install, Apache, BIND, and PostFix and MySQL were installed with defaults and now I want to use them. To try to educate myself, I bought the O'Reilly books on Apache and BIND and have been working my way through them. I installed and have running M$ DNS (on a 2000 box), IIS (on a NT4 box), a mail server (not Exchange) so I have some experience with these type applications. Here is one problem I keep running into: I can't find stuff. For example, Webmin was also installed on this system (after the initial install) from the Mandrake CDs. I executed it when I was infront of computer so I think it is working. Then for documentation I go to the webmin site and they tell me the rpm installs this application in /usr/libexec/webmin. When I go there and try to list the files; there is no such folder. I want to configure webmin to run under apache. I locate the documentation for putting webmin in a virtual folder and the first sentence says: Create a new Apache virtual server with the document set to the directory where you installed Webmin. How do I find out where that was done? If there is more technical/detailed information on the Mandrake installation process, I would appreciate a link to that place. Thanks in advance, Carter. I understand your confusion. Documentation is often a major failing of Linux apps and distros. First Finding stuff - Applications do not have to be installed in the locations the authors defined. The webmin authors may have selected /usr/libexec/webmin as the install folder, but Mandrake has its own standard for where apps go, and so the packager will have compiled webmin to go somewhere else. To find where an application is there are two really useful tools. slocate and kpackage Slocate will find any file on the system for you. Install the slocate rpm, then in a root terminal type 'updated' After a few minutes you will have a database of every file on the system. To find a file type slocate filename kpackage (or similar apps) will tell you which files are in an RPM. Just select the RPM and look at the files list. Running Webmin Webmin does not need to run under Apache. It is a web server in its own right and is entirely independent of Apache. To run webmin just install the webmin RPM. Check the webmin service is running with Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices. Then open a browser and type https://localhost:1 in the URL line (NOTE https NOT http) You will get a message saying a certificate is self certified. Accept it and log in as root to webmin. Postfix --- As for Postfix I have a howto on my homepage which may help you. Most of the material on there is not required for a simple mail server, but you will get the idea. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/djennings/ HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Newbie Orientation
Derek: Thanks again for your reply and your encouragement! I'm now using Webmin under the VPN and it seems to work fine. I'm going to try to get some things going there this afternoon. I will be in the office again tomorrow and I'll load up the CD and install the rpms you recommend. Sounds like they will be a huge help. I am also looking at your website ... wonderful source of information ... thanks again for your great response. Carter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Newbie Orientation
On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 12:47, H. Carter Harris wrote: I have an almost virgin install of ML8.2 running and I am trying to bring up some sever applications. So far the only one I have in a usable state is TightVNC and though I haven't tuned it the way I want it ... it is running nicely. I have the box on a private IP address and the router is using NAT to send VNC requests to the box. During the install, Apache, BIND, and PostFix and MySQL were installed with defaults and now I want to use them. snip Here is one problem I keep running into: I can't find stuff. For example, Webmin was also installed on this system (after the initial install) from the Mandrake CDs. I executed it when I was infront of computer so I think it is working. Then for documentation I go to the webmin site and they tell me the rpm installs this application in /usr/libexec/webmin. When I go there and try to list the files; there is no such folder. I want to configure webmin to run under apache. I locate the documentation for putting webmin in a virtual folder and the first sentence says: Create a new Apache virtual server with the document set to the directory where you installed Webmin. How do I find out where that was done? presuming that slocate has also been installed at a root prompt: locate webmin you should get a list of every path that incudes 'webmin' if the only response is a new prompt,since you think webmin is installed already: type: updatedb wait for prompt, it could take a minutethen try: locate webmin again HTH -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
