[newbie] OT - Which ethernet cable to use

2003-01-14 Thread Sharrea
Hi all

OT I know, but I can't figure out what type of Cat 5 UTP cable (and possibly 
adapters) I am supposed to use with this 5-port switching hub I picked up 
at the auction.

The hub manual says:
quote
Fast Ethernet Ports
These ports require Category 5 unshielded twisted-pair (UTP) cable. These 
ports can be used to connect to individual workstations, servers or other 
Ethernet devices. The attached station must be within 100 meters of the 
10/100 Switching Hub, and a straight-through cable must be used when 
connecting a single-address device or a crossover cable when connecting a 
multi-address device such as a 100Base-TX repeater.

When connecting a workstation or a server, a standard 100BASE-TX adapter 
must be installed.
/quote

I have 3 PCs that I want to network with one being used solely as a firewall 
with ipcop.  Each PC has a NIC.  I connect to the internet via a dialup 
modem.

My theory so far:
1.  Connect external dialup modem to firewall machine which will provide 
internet access to the other 2 machines.
2.  Connect each of the 3 machines to the hub with (?) cat 5 utp cable and 
(?) adapters.

Could someone please enlighten this thick newbie as to which cable and 
adapters (if any) I should use?  Any help greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Sharrea
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Re: [newbie] OT - Which ethernet cable to use

2003-01-14 Thread Brandon Vanderberg
Cat 5 cables are pretty standard. Any store that sells hubs, should also
carry them.

There are no adapters to be concerned with. One end of the cable goes
into a nick, the other end into the hub. 

Now with your firewall, one nic is going to be connected to the
dls/cable modem, but you'll need a second nic (and cable) to go from the
firewall to the hub. 

If you plan to use only one nic in the firewall, you'll have what's
known as a 'one arm firewall'. It would require a second IP on the nic,
and is a more complex setup.

Hope some of this helps,
~Brandon

On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 12:19, Sharrea wrote:
 Hi all
 
 OT I know, but I can't figure out what type of Cat 5 UTP cable (and possibly 
 adapters) I am supposed to use with this 5-port switching hub I picked up 
 at the auction.
 
 The hub manual says:
 quote
 Fast Ethernet Ports
 These ports require Category 5 unshielded twisted-pair (UTP) cable. These 
 ports can be used to connect to individual workstations, servers or other 
 Ethernet devices. The attached station must be within 100 meters of the 
 10/100 Switching Hub, and a straight-through cable must be used when 
 connecting a single-address device or a crossover cable when connecting a 
 multi-address device such as a 100Base-TX repeater.
 
 When connecting a workstation or a server, a standard 100BASE-TX adapter 
 must be installed.
 /quote
 
 I have 3 PCs that I want to network with one being used solely as a firewall 
 with ipcop.  Each PC has a NIC.  I connect to the internet via a dialup 
 modem.
 
 My theory so far:
 1.  Connect external dialup modem to firewall machine which will provide 
 internet access to the other 2 machines.
 2.  Connect each of the 3 machines to the hub with (?) cat 5 utp cable and 
 (?) adapters.
 
 Could someone please enlighten this thick newbie as to which cable and 
 adapters (if any) I should use?  Any help greatly appreciated.
 
 Cheers
 Sharrea
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Re: [newbie] OT - Which ethernet cable to use

2003-01-14 Thread Frans Ketelaars
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:19:27 +1300
Sharrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all
 
 OT I know, but I can't figure out what type of Cat 5 UTP cable (and possibly 
 adapters) I am supposed to use with this 5-port switching hub I picked up 
 at the auction.
 
 The hub manual says:
 quote
 Fast Ethernet Ports
 These ports require Category 5 unshielded twisted-pair (UTP) cable. These 
 ports can be used to connect to individual workstations, servers or other 
 Ethernet devices. The attached station must be within 100 meters of the 
 10/100 Switching Hub, and a straight-through cable must be used when 
 connecting a single-address device or a crossover cable when connecting a 
 multi-address device such as a 100Base-TX repeater.
 
 When connecting a workstation or a server, a standard 100BASE-TX adapter 
 must be installed.
 /quote
 
 I have 3 PCs that I want to network with one being used solely as a firewall 
 with ipcop.  Each PC has a NIC.  I connect to the internet via a dialup 
 modem.
 
 My theory so far:
 1.  Connect external dialup modem to firewall machine which will provide 
 internet access to the other 2 machines.
 2.  Connect each of the 3 machines to the hub with (?) cat 5 utp cable and 
 (?) adapters.
 
 Could someone please enlighten this thick newbie as to which cable and 
 adapters (if any) I should use?  Any help greatly appreciated.
 
 Cheers
 Sharrea

Uhm, I think this is unclear documentation. It seems to me you just have 
to connect your 3 machines to the hub with standard 'patch' (cat 5) utp
cables.

HTH,

-Frans


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RE: [newbie] OT - Which ethernet cable to use

2003-01-14 Thread Myers, Dennis R NWO
Title: RE: [newbie] OT - Which ethernet cable to use







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Subject: [newbie] OT - Which ethernet cable to use



Hi all


OT I know, but I can't figure out what type of Cat 5 UTP cable (and possibly 
adapters) I am supposed to use with this 5-port switching hub I picked up 
at the auction.


The hub manual says:
quote
Fast Ethernet Ports
These ports require Category 5 unshielded twisted-pair (UTP) cable. These 
ports can be used to connect to individual workstations, servers or other 
Ethernet devices. The attached station must be within 100 meters of the 
10/100 Switching Hub, and a straight-through cable must be used when 
connecting a single-address device or a crossover cable when connecting a 
multi-address device such as a 100Base-TX repeater.


When connecting a workstation or a server, a standard 100BASE-TX adapter 
must be installed.
/quote


I have 3 PCs that I want to network with one being used solely as a firewall 
with ipcop. Each PC has a NIC. I connect to the internet via a dialup 
modem.


My theory so far:
1. Connect external dialup modem to firewall machine which will provide 
internet access to the other 2 machines.
2. Connect each of the 3 machines to the hub with (?) cat 5 utp cable and 
(?) adapters.


Could someone please enlighten this thick newbie as to which cable and 
adapters (if any) I should use? Any help greatly appreciated.


Cheers
Sharrea
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All you need is a plain cat5 cable not a cat5 crossover cable most computer stores carry them. They look round, come in different colors and have what looks like a telephone plug end on both ends. Plug into the ethernet card on the computer and the other end into the switch. Your above theory should work. If you have problems connect the modem to the uplink position on the switch and both NICs on the firewall into the switch. Sounds dumb but it was the only way I could get a cable modem to work. There should be no adapters needed just the cable. HTH Dennis M.




Re: [newbie] OT - Which ethernet cable to use

2003-01-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 07:19, Sharrea wrote:
 Hi all
 
 OT I know, but I can't figure out what type of Cat 5 UTP cable (and possibly 
 adapters) I am supposed to use with this 5-port switching hub I picked up 
 at the auction.
 
 The hub manual says:
 quote
 Fast Ethernet Ports
 These ports require Category 5 unshielded twisted-pair (UTP) cable. These 
 ports can be used to connect to individual workstations, servers or other 
 Ethernet devices. The attached station must be within 100 meters of the 
 10/100 Switching Hub, and a straight-through cable must be used when 
 connecting a single-address device or a crossover cable when connecting a 
 multi-address device such as a 100Base-TX repeater.
 
 When connecting a workstation or a server, a standard 100BASE-TX adapter 
 must be installed.
 /quote
 
 I have 3 PCs that I want to network with one being used solely as a firewall 
 with ipcop.  Each PC has a NIC.  I connect to the internet via a dialup 
 modem.
 
 My theory so far:
 1.  Connect external dialup modem to firewall machine which will provide 
 internet access to the other 2 machines.
 2.  Connect each of the 3 machines to the hub with (?) cat 5 utp cable and 
 (?) adapters.
 
 Could someone please enlighten this thick newbie as to which cable and 
 adapters (if any) I should use?  Any help greatly appreciated.
 
 Cheers
 Sharrea

Easy way:

The dialout machine (the one that has the modem in it already and you're
dialing up to the internet with) would be the firewall and IP
masquerading server. It plugs into the switching hub, as do the rest.
Regular CAT5 - nothing special. The other two machines just plug into
the switching hub as well. Set the dial out machine to 192.168.0.1,
and the other two machines to the same static IP structure - i.e.,
192.168.0.20, 192.168.0.30 (or whatever you desire). After you've
confirmed that the three can talk or see each other well, start
working on your firewall.

Without knowing what setup you're using for the firewall (ipchains or
iptables) - the software you're using should have some place to setup
the IP masquerading - forwarding ppp0 calls over eth0 - I personally
don't like using third party programs, but do the scripts manually
along with setting up the IP masquerading manually.

It's a relatively easy setup, but I do remember when I was first doing
it, it sucked, and it appeared quite more complex than what it really
is.

If you want more detailed help, feel free to email me offlist.

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