[newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
I understand that you can test a mail server (both POP and SMTP) by using telnet on the appropriate port. Does that stand to reason that you need telnetd running in order to make the mail server work? I'm guessing not, but I'm pretty desperate, so I'm grasping at straws right about now :-) Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
Miark wrote: I understand that you can test a mail server (both POP and SMTP) by using telnet on the appropriate port. Does that stand to reason that you need telnetd running in order to make the mail server work? I'm guessing not, but I'm pretty desperate, so I'm grasping at straws right about now :-) I'm guessing not also, with a 99% certainty. Don't know if I've written to you before or not (on mail servers) but I'm working (slowly) on getting one set up and feel that I'm getting pretty close. Some of the information is still in my head, but some is on WikiLearn -- suggest you try looking at these pages: * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/TestSketch * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/EmailPostfixTrials There are other pages on WikiLearn that you can find by searching for email or postfix in the topic name of a page on: * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/WebSearch The final piece of the puzzle for me (I hope) was how to set up a pop (and imap) server under xinetd (sp?). There was a post on newbie or expert within the last three weeks that seems to give very good clues -- I've saved it somewhere and can send it to you if you think it will help. Suggestion: Look at the first two pates I mentioned above, and then give me some feedback about whether we're on similar wave lengths or not. Maybe I can help. regards, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
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Re: [newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
On Thursday 28 March 2002 11:47 pm, Miark wrote: I understand that you can test a mail server (both POP and SMTP) by using telnet on the appropriate port. Does that stand to reason that you need telnetd running in order to make the mail server work? I'm guessing not, but I'm pretty desperate, so I'm grasping at straws right about now :-) Miark No you do not need telent to get the mail server to work. Telnet is just a method of connecting to test it. -- Gerald Waugh Linux user # 255245 http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com New Haven, CT, United States of America 12:34am up 7 days, 8:58, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 0.98, 0.98 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/TestSketch * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/EmailPostfixTrials These pages didn't really help my specific problem. The final piece of the puzzle for me (I hope) was how to set up a pop (and imap) server under xinetd (sp?). Does POP run independently of Postfix? I didn't think so. If so, how -do- you get it running? There was a post on newbie or expert within the last three weeks that seems to give very good clues -- I've saved it somewhere and can send it to you if you think it will help. Yes, if you could send anything related to the refused connections, I would appreciate it. Thanks for your help. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
Actually, my question was whether I need the telnetd--the daemon. But I expect the answer's still no, eh? Miark Gerald Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: On Thursday 28 March 2002 11:47 pm, Miark wrote: I understand that you can test a mail server (both POP and SMTP) by using telnet on the appropriate port. Does that stand to reason that you need telnetd running in order to make the mail server work? I'm guessing not, but I'm pretty desperate, so I'm grasping at straws right about now :-) Miark No you do not need telent to get the mail server to work. Telnet is just a method of connecting to test it. -- Gerald Waugh Linux user # 255245 http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com New Haven, CT, United States of America 12:34am up 7 days, 8:58, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 0.98, 0.98 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
At 11:03 PM 3/28/2002 -0700, you wrote: Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/TestSketch * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/EmailPostfixTrials These pages didn't really help my specific problem. The final piece of the puzzle for me (I hope) was how to set up a pop (and imap) server under xinetd (sp?). Does POP run independently of Postfix? I didn't think so. If so, how -do- you get it running? Yes, pop does run independently of postfix. POP3d is a binary included in the imap-* packages, which is controlled by the xinetd superdaemon. The steps to getting a working pop3 server are: 1. Make sure that xinetd is installed. If it isn't, install it. 2. Make sure that all imap-* packages are installed. If they aren't, install them. 3. Make sure that the /etc/xinetd.d/pop3 file is not set as disabled -- if it is, enable it. 4. Finally, restart xinetd. You should now have a working pop3 server. If it still doesn't work, check the following: 1. Verify that xinetd is running. 2. Verify that pop3 is running (ps / netstat are your friends). 3. Try connecting from the local machine -- if it doesn't work, then you have some type of configuration issue, quite possibly with hosts.deny 4. If you get a successful connect from the local machine, check remote connectivity (ie, from another machine). If it doesn't work, there is either an issue with /etc/hosts.deny or one of the rules in your firewall (if you have one in place). 5. Make sure that the username / password is a valid account on the mail server. If you are still having problems, send the relevant error messages from your logs to the list...it is much easier to give more specific ideas if we know exactly what the problem is. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
No, telnetd is not required by the pop3 server, although xinetd is. Michael -- Michael Viron Core System Administration Team, Simple End User Linux At 11:04 PM 3/28/2002 -0700, you wrote: Actually, my question was whether I need the telnetd--the daemon. But I expect the answer's still no, eh? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
On Friday 29 March 2002 01:03 am, Miark wrote: Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/TestSketch * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/EmailPostfixTrials These pages didn't really help my specific problem. The final piece of the puzzle for me (I hope) was how to set up a pop (and imap) server under xinetd (sp?). Does POP run independently of Postfix? I didn't think so. If so, how -do- you get it running? It is an xinetd process, it listens on port 110 and runs when something connects to port 11telnet0. run chkconfig --list grep pop try [root@gail www]# telnet localhost 110 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1). Escape character is '^]'. +OK POP3 localhost.localdomain v2000.70mdk server ready quit +OK Sayonara Connection closed by foreign host. -- Gerald Waugh Linux user # 255245 http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com New Haven, CT, United States of America 1:36am up 7 days, 10:00, 2 users, load average: 1.06, 1.14, 1.07 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
On Friday 29 March 2002 01:04 am, Miark wrote: Actually, my question was whether I need the telnetd--the daemon. But I expect the answer's still no, eh? No you don't need it, but it can be hand to test. see my earlier post -- Gerald Waugh Linux user # 255245 http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com New Haven, CT, United States of America 1:40am up 7 days, 10:04, 2 users, load average: 1.05, 1.09, 1.07 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
Excellent, Michael!! I didn't know until just a minute ago that Postfix doesn't include a pop3 daemon. Thanks so much! By the way, do you think there is any advantage to using qpopper instead? Miark Michael Viron [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: At 11:03 PM 3/28/2002 -0700, you wrote: Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/TestSketch * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/EmailPostfixTrials These pages didn't really help my specific problem. The final piece of the puzzle for me (I hope) was how to set up a pop (and imap) server under xinetd (sp?). Does POP run independently of Postfix? I didn't think so. If so, how -do- you get it running? Yes, pop does run independently of postfix. POP3d is a binary included in the imap-* packages, which is controlled by the xinetd superdaemon. The steps to getting a working pop3 server are: 1. Make sure that xinetd is installed. If it isn't, install it. 2. Make sure that all imap-* packages are installed. If they aren't, install them. 3. Make sure that the /etc/xinetd.d/pop3 file is not set as disabled -- if it is, enable it. 4. Finally, restart xinetd. You should now have a working pop3 server. If it still doesn't work, check the following: 1. Verify that xinetd is running. 2. Verify that pop3 is running (ps / netstat are your friends). 3. Try connecting from the local machine -- if it doesn't work, then you have some type of configuration issue, quite possibly with hosts.deny 4. If you get a successful connect from the local machine, check remote connectivity (ie, from another machine). If it doesn't work, there is either an issue with /etc/hosts.deny or one of the rules in your firewall (if you have one in place). 5. Make sure that the username / password is a valid account on the mail server. If you are still having problems, send the relevant error messages from your logs to the list...it is much easier to give more specific ideas if we know exactly what the problem is. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
On Friday 29 March 2002 01:39 am, Gerald Waugh wrote: On Friday 29 March 2002 01:03 am, Miark wrote: Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/TestSketch * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/EmailPostfixTrials These pages didn't really help my specific problem. The final piece of the puzzle for me (I hope) was how to set up a pop (and imap) server under xinetd (sp?). Does POP run independently of Postfix? I didn't think so. If so, how -do- you get it running? It is an xinetd process, it listens on port 110 and runs when something connects to port 11telnet0. run chkconfig --list | grep pop run the following also [root@gail www]# netstat -tupan | grep 110 tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:110 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1670/xinetd try [root@gail www]# telnet localhost 110 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1). Escape character is '^]'. +OK POP3 localhost.localdomain v2000.70mdk server ready quit +OK Sayonara Connection closed by foreign host. -- Gerald Waugh Linux user # 255245 http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com New Haven, CT, United States of America 1:50am up 7 days, 10:14, 2 users, load average: 1.19, 1.05, 1.02 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POP server need telnet daemon?
run chkconfig --list | grep pop Nothing. run the following also Lots more nothing :-) I'm uploading the imap* packages to the server now. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
