Re: [newbie] Palm HotSync over USB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 20 May 2002 2:16 am, Dan wrote: Thank you! I am going to try this! This might be the best advise I have gotten yet as it makes sense to me. Why didn't I think of this! Thank you Sir! It saves ages fiddling around with pilot-link and coldsync (which are both temperamental). I forgot to mention that you have to start MS Import on the Clie (don't know about other handhelds) before doing the mount otherwise /dev/sda* doesn't 'appear' and, once you've finished, type: umount -a /dev/sda1 (You can map the hotsync button to MS Import via Preferences to make life easier). Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE86PIoCv59vFiSU4YRAgOFAKDInZCF2BNcCQdPgh/lgQlwHQVrJgCgnLfS QAIzXT6u8LV5+j0ZTZ4YHBM= =mmHa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Palm HotSync over USB
On Saturday 18 May 2002 23:13, Dan Butler opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I have really come to enjoy and rely on my Palm. But I can't connect it with my Linux system. I keep waiting for someone to figure it out and share that information and I can't believe it hasn't happened yet. Is there anyone that can help me? Dan B what app are you using to sync, and what version? kpilot to the best of my knowledge does not do USB, though it was once said it would by KDE 3. i have used kpilot with a serial cradle and jpilot with USB. both work fine. -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Palm HotSync over USB
Dear friends, The avalaible releases of pilot-link, jpilot and all the packages that use those applications (i.e. kpilot) don't make USB sync to your computer under linux. But, the future releases will did and you can, with a few work, have it runing. This is the way I reached to have this runing in a system with Mandrake 8.2: A) First of all, to have pilot-link runing with the usb palm conection. A1: Go to the http://www.pilot-link.org page and download the CVS and built it; I did it under Mandrake 8.2 using: ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/extra/pilot-head --with-perl5=no --with-python=no I had to insmod visor to test the pilot-xfer and create the simbolic link (ln -s /dev/usb/tts/0 /dev/pilot) but due to the using of usbthe sync button must be pressed before run the program because /dev/usb/tts/0 is created dinamycally). Now if you copy all the executable files to /usr/bin (do that as root) you will see that the conection is possible (try with pilot-xfer /dev/ttyUSB0 -l and you will hear a eaven sound ^_^). B) Jpilot version 0.99.10 or lather beta release. B1. Go to the jpilot page and download the source of the beta. B2. configure using: ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-pilot-prefix=/usr/extra/pilot-head --with-ccoptions=-Wall -O2 then make finally make install Perhaps you do need to insmod the visor module. That run for me; now I can sync my palm m505 via the usb port, than is faster than the serial conection. Good luck! Francisco Alcaraz Murcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Palm HotSync over USB
I have tried using JPilot with Pilot-Link and there is even a listserve for those that use this. But it is to far advanced for me, I guess. I have tried compiling their code (CVS) as their web page and list server users explain, but having never compiled before I became lost with the error messages I was getting and did not know what to do to resolve them. I think I may be stuck waiting for the RPM. I am employed as a senior system analyst and when it comes to data manipulation I really pride myself on how fast I can cleanly manuver data. I understand awk, sed, perl, informix, oracle, and sql. But the OS side is another story that I am just begining to grasp. But there are not many good sources to help with my current goal, getting my palm to work on the USB port... This is very frustrating. Why is it so easy to get it to work on the MS side of the house? Dan B On Sunday 19 May 2002 09:15 am, you wrote: On Saturday 18 May 2002 23:13, Dan Butler opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I have really come to enjoy and rely on my Palm. But I can't connect it with my Linux system. I keep waiting for someone to figure it out and share that information and I can't believe it hasn't happened yet. Is there anyone that can help me? Dan B what app are you using to sync, and what version? kpilot to the best of my knowledge does not do USB, though it was once said it would by KDE 3. i have used kpilot with a serial cradle and jpilot with USB. both work fine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Palm HotSync over USB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 19 May 2002 2:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That run for me; now I can sync my palm m505 via the usb port, than is faster than the serial conection. I don't bother at all with hotsync :) If you have a PalmOS compatible with USB _and a memory card_ (I use a Clie with Memory Stick) you can access the card easily without adding any software; su and then mkdir directory mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 directory and you can manipulate files on the card from the command line or any GUI application by going inside directory. All this is possible because support for solid-state memory devices is built into the kernel; it doesn't differentiate between a card on a USB PalmOS device and a card on a digital camera, for example. (Once something's on the memory card you can use Filez http://www.nosleep.net/filez.asp or similar to transfer it to the PalmOS compatible's own memory, or vice versa). Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE858vdCv59vFiSU4YRAitFAKCh8K9DPyNpfBV7oBP6puU2FKA/SwCgojb3 dCfj2g4gCV8E7XHdn4kK1WY= =ixVC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Palm HotSync over USB
On Sunday 19 May 2002 07:36, Dan B opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I have tried using JPilot with Pilot-Link and there is even a listserve for those that use this. But it is to far advanced for me, I guess. I have tried compiling their code (CVS) as their web page and list server users explain, but having never compiled before I became lost with the error messages I was getting and did not know what to do to resolve them. I think I may be stuck waiting for the RPM. there is already an RPM though maybe not for the latest version. i haven't got a single piece of compiled software on this box and i have jpilot. look on the CDs in software manager. work on the USB port... This is very frustrating. Why is it so easy to get it to work on the MS side of the house? maybe because when you got the palm it came with software for windows, but not linux? :) -- Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Palm HotSync over USB
Franciso, Thanks! I'll work through your messages at work (where the USB cradle sits). There I'm running RH 7.3. Bill Nash also pointed me to a website that has a How-to. I need to buy another cradle for this computer (at home). I take it that folks have Palm/Handspring PDA's running on serial cradles? Terry On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 18:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry I suppose you have read my last message about how to compile the cvs pilot-link and the last release of jpilot. Just with pilot-link compiled, I could conect my palm m505 to the usb port (BTW I am using Mandrake 8.2 with devs activated). I plug the palm cable in the usb 1 and pressed the sync button; then I was able to create as root the link: ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/pilot; probably you will need to make the pilot dev accesible to every user (chmod 777 /dev/pilot). Then you can test pilot-link using pressing the sync button of your pad-usb cable and writing as user: pilot-xfer /dev/pilot -l The first time I heard the music (turur) was wonderfull!!! Well, If you haven't configured it before, you will need to install the palm user according to you palm configuration: install-user /dev/pilot Francisco Alcaraz ( is the register number you have created). Then if you have compiled jpilot with the pilot-link headers (see my last message in newbie). In Jpilot Preferences I have put in Serial Port: /dev/pilot; the speed is 115200. Remember to touch previosly the sync button in the palm cable and then Sync in jpilot. If have tested with kpilot, but it doesn't run. Anyway, if you need more detailed descriptions about my conection, please ask me! Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Palm HotSync over USB
Thank you! I am going to try this! This might be the best advise I have gotten yet as it makes sense to me. Why didn't I think of this! Thank you Sir! Dan B - Original Message - From: Alastair Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Palm HotSync over USB -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 19 May 2002 2:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That run for me; now I can sync my palm m505 via the usb port, than is faster than the serial conection. I don't bother at all with hotsync :) If you have a PalmOS compatible with USB _and a memory card_ (I use a Clie with Memory Stick) you can access the card easily without adding any software; su and then mkdir directory mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 directory and you can manipulate files on the card from the command line or any GUI application by going inside directory. All this is possible because support for solid-state memory devices is built into the kernel; it doesn't differentiate between a card on a USB PalmOS device and a card on a digital camera, for example. (Once something's on the memory card you can use Filez http://www.nosleep.net/filez.asp or similar to transfer it to the PalmOS compatible's own memory, or vice versa). Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE858vdCv59vFiSU4YRAitFAKCh8K9DPyNpfBV7oBP6puU2FKA/SwCgojb3 dCfj2g4gCV8E7XHdn4kK1WY= =ixVC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Palm HotSync over USB
On Sunday 19 May 2002 16:21, Terry Smith opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Franciso, Thanks! I'll work through your messages at work (where the USB cradle sits). There I'm running RH 7.3. Bill Nash also pointed me to a website that has a How-to. that how to was my answer to the question too, so i didn't bother answering :) I need to buy another cradle for this computer (at home). I take it that folks have Palm/Handspring PDA's running on serial cradles? i have a serial, from NT days (no USB) my wife has a USB on her mandrake at home win2k at work. all 3 work fine. -- He serves the State best who opposes the State most. -Henry David Thoreau shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
