Re: [newbie] PPPD dies unexpectedly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded from 7.0 to 7.1. My 56k external USR modem did great with 7.0. However, I have followed the HOWTO's and simply cannot get PPPD to function in 7.2. The modem connects just great everytime, but not PPPD. Any help would be appreciated. I am considering going back to 7.0 Carl delete the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
Re: [newbie] PPPD dies unexpectedly
On Sat, 09 Dec 2000, you wrote: I just upgraded from 7.0 to 7.1. My 56k external USR modem did great with 7.0. However, I have followed the HOWTO's and simply cannot get PPPD to function in 7.2. The modem connects just great everytime, but not PPPD. Any help would be appreciated. I am considering going back to 7.0 Carl PPPD connects about one out of three times for me. I am running 7.0 7.0 seems to be a more bug free distro than 7.2 thats for sure. I never could find 7.1 in my area. I am waiting to get 7.2 untill it has been out for a while. Andrew
Re: [newbie] Pppd dies unexpectedly
I also get this message from kppp, but I get it as root. When I try a second time it connects without problems. this was since I upgraded to kernel 2.2.5. On dom, 16 may 1999, you wrote: Many many thanks. I will try. And I hate Windows, but I have to do my work. Any idea about the pppd unexpectedly dying in user? It works fine in root. Bela Lyndon Lininger Sr. wrote: Your problem in redhat 6.0 is easy to fix. After you boot up. In the kde environment use the file manager and go to kppp. I believe it is in /bin/kppp. Right click on it and choose properties. When that window pops up goto permissions and set the suid bit. Close it down and reboot. It will work fine from then on. Hope this helps. I will never go back to windows. Lyndon Lininger Sr.
Re: [newbie] Pppd dies unexpectedly
Steve Philp wrote:
Bela Lantos wrote:
Hi everyone,
Since I installed Mandrake 5.3 I have problem with pppd dying unexpectedly
because of timeout. Even though I increased timeout to 2 min, it still dies.
Snippety snip
Strange that, I can't even get kppp to work at all. I had to resort to a suite of
home grown shell scripts (Some of them 'borrowed from Debian :-)
Turn on debugging and see if anything obvious pops up. Check your log
files and see if anything is listed there when the connection is
dropped.
Debugging don't give me any info ('cept the last msg is starting pppd then
disconnect after a few mins - timeout?)
Do you need gpm? It doesn't sound like you're very comfortable at the
command line, so I'm wondering if it's even necessary for you to run
it. If you don't need it, turn it off.
Snip snippety snip snip
--Come to think of it, my mouse seems to have been causing xcrashes (PS2) when I
switch from shell to desktop - A device/resource busy error. Anyone else had this
problem? If so, maybe we could identify the trouble; I do use console a lot
therefore want to keep gpm.
More snipping
Linux on your personal machine IS NOT and will NEVER be like running
Windows. Windows allows you to be an end-user. No sense in worrying
about where you files are stored or how to configure your POP client to
retrieve your mail -- Windows will take care of that for you. Linux
forces you to be an administrator. This is a powerful system that
allows you to undertake tasks in a variety of ways. It's up to YOU to
make something of it.
--8
I know, fun isn't it ;-)
So quit stomping your feet and tossing a temper tantrum and ask for help
WITHOUT the "threats" to give up Linux. You'll get alot further.
--
Steve Philp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Martin Barnard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Too much is not enough.
Re: [newbie] Pppd dies unexpectedly
Glutton for punishment , huh? Will - Original Message - From: Lyndon Lininger Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Pppd dies unexpectedly Your problem in redhat 6.0 is easy to fix. After you boot up. In the kde environment use the file manager and go to kppp. I believe it is in /bin/kppp. Right click on it and choose properties. When that window pops up goto permissions and set the suid bit. Close it down and reboot. It will work fine from then on. Hope this helps. I will never go back to windows. Lyndon Lininger Sr. - Original Message - From: Bela Lantos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 6:15 PM Subject: [newbie] Pppd dies unexpectedly Hi everyone, Since I installed Mandrake 5.3 I have problem with pppd dying unexpectedly because of timeout. Even though I increased timeout to 2 min, it still dies. However, if I dial again, the second time it connects OK. This problem doesn't exist if I dial in as ROOT, only as user. It wasn't so in Mandrake 5.2. I am so disappointed with it, that I am going to dump Linux from my desktop and stick with Win95. At least it doesn't double my phone bill. 5.3 would also hang if I tried to shutdown with CTRL_ALT_DELETE at the killing of the gpm daemon - corrupted file system. My mouse is a serial mouse. My friend's is a PS/2, he doesn't have this problem. I uninstalled the "initscript", and installed the one from Mandrake 5.2. It works fine. I also installed Red Hat 6 on another partition. It is missing kpackage and glint, which is a very ugly error from Red Hat. Pppd works fine as ROOT, but when I try to bring up kppp the following is the message: "pppd is not properly installed! The pppd binary must be installed with the SUID bit set. Contact your system administrator." I click OK to the message, then try to dial with kppp, and the following is the message: "Sorry, can't create modem lock file." Do these Linux companies know what they are doing? Since Red Hat received so much investment, and Mandrake became successful their products are not worth buying unless you are a programming guru who can fix the ugly errors. I am very upset about their carelessness. Linux will not win the hearts of people this way. I am now not recommending it to anyone until it will be praised on the newsgroups. Bela
Re: [newbie] Pppd dies unexpectedly
Many many thanks. I will try. And I hate Windows, but I have to do my work. Any idea about the pppd unexpectedly dying in user? It works fine in root. Bela Lyndon Lininger Sr. wrote: Your problem in redhat 6.0 is easy to fix. After you boot up. In the kde environment use the file manager and go to kppp. I believe it is in /bin/kppp. Right click on it and choose properties. When that window pops up goto permissions and set the suid bit. Close it down and reboot. It will work fine from then on. Hope this helps. I will never go back to windows. Lyndon Lininger Sr.
Re: [newbie] Pppd dies unexpectedly
Bela Lantos wrote: Hi everyone, Since I installed Mandrake 5.3 I have problem with pppd dying unexpectedly because of timeout. Even though I increased timeout to 2 min, it still dies. However, if I dial again, the second time it connects OK. This problem doesn't exist if I dial in as ROOT, only as user. It wasn't so in Mandrake 5.2. I am so disappointed with it, that I am going to dump Linux from my desktop and stick with Win95. At least it doesn't double my phone bill. Turn on debugging and see if anything obvious pops up. Check your log files and see if anything is listed there when the connection is dropped. 5.3 would also hang if I tried to shutdown with CTRL_ALT_DELETE at the killing of the gpm daemon - corrupted file system. My mouse is a serial mouse. My friend's is a PS/2, he doesn't have this problem. I uninstalled the "initscript", and installed the one from Mandrake 5.2. It works fine. Do you need gpm? It doesn't sound like you're very comfortable at the command line, so I'm wondering if it's even necessary for you to run it. If you don't need it, turn it off. Problem solved. And if there IS a bug, how about submitting it to Mandrakesoft through something a bit more 'official' than the newbie mailing list? It's been a while since I've seen Gael or anyone else affiliated with Mandrakesoft posting to this list. I also installed Red Hat 6 on another partition. It is missing kpackage and glint, which is a very ugly error from Red Hat. Pppd works fine as ROOT, but when I try to bring up kppp the following is the message: What does this have to do with Mandrake, might I ask? As for it missing kpackage and glint, who REALLY cares? Glint sucked rocks through a straw! Try gnorpm or (horror of horrors!) the command line! As for kpackage, I tried it with Mandrake and just gave up on it. While uninstalling packages, it would magically up and lose root privileges every few minutes forcing me to restart the program. Thanks, but no thanks. "pppd is not properly installed! The pppd binary must be installed with the SUID bit set. Contact your system administrator." And if you use the supported tools, it works just fine. Odd, that. Try configuring with netcfg and using '/sbin/ifup ppp0' and '/sbin/ifdown ppp0' and everything is fine. Be sure to check the box that says 'Allow users to activate the interface', else normal users will get an error when they try to dialup. I click OK to the message, then try to dial with kppp, and the following is the message: "Sorry, can't create modem lock file." So check the permissions on the /var/lock directory to make sure your user can write there. Do these Linux companies know what they are doing? Since Red Hat received so much investment, and Mandrake became successful their products are not worth buying unless you are a programming guru who can fix the ugly errors. This KPPP problem doesn't exist on my copy of Mandrake, and I haven't seen any other postings about 'works as root, not as user' from anyone else in the past 3 or 4 months that I've been using Mandrake. As for the 'programming guru' comment, I'll be the first to admit that I couldn't code my way out of a paper bag. My Mandrake installation and subsequent use has been completely trouble-free and without any need to program anything. I am very upset about their carelessness. Linux will not win the hearts of people this way. I am now not recommending it to anyone until it will be praised on the newsgroups. I'm sick and tired of people posting to this mailing list who've seen a mention of Linux somewhere, bought a distribution, installed it, and now stare blankly at the monitor wondering what they hell they're supposed to do. And when something doesn't work exactly the way they think it should, they're completely baffled as to what to do! Linux provides you with more debugging information that you could ever imagine -- if you know where to look for it (hint, try /var/log) Linux on your personal machine IS NOT and will NEVER be like running Windows. Windows allows you to be an end-user. No sense in worrying about where you files are stored or how to configure your POP client to retrieve your mail -- Windows will take care of that for you. Linux forces you to be an administrator. This is a powerful system that allows you to undertake tasks in a variety of ways. It's up to YOU to make something of it. So quit stomping your feet and tossing a temper tantrum and ask for help WITHOUT the "threats" to give up Linux. You'll get alot further. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Pppd dies unexpectedly
On Mon, 17 May 1999, you wrote: Bela Lantos wrote: Hi everyone, Since I installed Mandrake 5.3 I have problem with pppd dying unexpectedly because of timeout. Even though I increased timeout to 2 min, it still dies. However, if I dial again, the second time it connects OK. This problem doesn't exist if I dial in as ROOT, only as user. It wasn't so in Mandrake 5.2. I am so disappointed with it, that I am going to dump Linux from my desktop and stick with Win95. At least it doesn't double my phone bill. Turn on debugging and see if anything obvious pops up. Check your log files and see if anything is listed there when the connection is dropped. 5.3 would also hang if I tried to shutdown with CTRL_ALT_DELETE at the killing of the gpm daemon - corrupted file system. My mouse is a serial mouse. My friend's is a PS/2, he doesn't have this problem. I uninstalled the "initscript", and installed the one from Mandrake 5.2. It works fine. Do you need gpm? I didn't start it myself. It was started automatically after installation. Of course, I need the mouse. It doesn't sound like you're very comfortable at the command line, so I'm wondering if it's even necessary for you to run it. I know the command line as much as someone who just came out of the DOS world. If you don't need it, turn it off. Problem solved. And if there IS a bug, how about submitting it to Mandrakesoft through something a bit more 'official' than the newbie mailing list? I did that, too, but received no help. They told me to come to the newsgroups. It's been a while since I've seen Gael or anyone else affiliated with Mandrakesoft posting to this list. I also installed Red Hat 6 on another partition. It is missing kpackage and glint, which is a very ugly error from Red Hat. Pppd works fine as ROOT, but when I try to bring up kppp the following is the message: What does this have to do with Mandrake, might I ask? Nothing right now, unless Mandrake leaves every settings where Red Hat left. As for it missing kpackage and glint, who REALLY cares? Glint sucked rocks through a straw! Try gnorpm or (horror of horrors!) the command line! As for kpackage, I tried it with Mandrake and just gave up on it. Kpackage worked fine for me, no problem. Glint was excellent in some ways. While uninstalling packages, it would magically up and lose root privileges every few minutes forcing me to restart the program. Thanks, but no thanks. "pppd is not properly installed! The pppd binary must be installed with the SUID bit set. Contact your system administrator." And if you use the supported tools, it works just fine. Odd, that. Try configuring with netcfg and using '/sbin/ifup ppp0' and '/sbin/ifdown ppp0' and everything is fine. Be sure to check the box that says 'Allow users to activate the interface', else normal users will get an error when they try to dialup. No, the answer was posted to me: as root you have to set UID for /usr/bin/kppp. I click OK to the message, then try to dial with kppp, and the following is the message: "Sorry, can't create modem lock file." So check the permissions on the /var/lock directory to make sure your user can write there. I am the user. (And the root as well.) Do these Linux companies know what they are doing? Since Red Hat received so much investment, and Mandrake became successful their products are not worth buying unless you are a programming guru who can fix the ugly errors. This KPPP problem doesn't exist on my copy of Mandrake, and I haven't seen any other postings about 'works as root, not as user' from anyone else in the past 3 or 4 months that I've been using Mandrake. The same problem happened to my friend. As for the 'programming guru' comment, I'll be the first to admit that I couldn't code my way out of a paper bag. My Mandrake installation and subsequent use has been completely trouble-free and without any need to program anything. Mine was also, except for troubles with dialling in, and with the shutdown. These were not present in Mandrake 5.2. After replaceing Mandrake 5.3's initscript with 5.2's one, everything works fine. -- Bug in the initscript in 5.3 (at least with some serial mice). I am very upset about their carelessness. Linux will not win the hearts of people this way. I am now not recommending it to anyone until it will be praised on the newsgroups. I'm sick and tired of people posting to this mailing list who've seen a mention of Linux somewhere, bought a distribution, installed it, and now stare blankly at the monitor wondering what they hell they're supposed to do. And when something doesn't work exactly the way they think it should, they're completely baffled as to what to do! Linux provides you with more debugging information that you could ever imagine -- if you know where to look for it (hint, try /var/log) You may be sick and
