Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to powerdown is use three finger salut. Why not use shutdown or reboot -now? Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date? Anyways, when I've dropped out of X, I always use: shutdown -h now Don't know what others do though I always type use halt eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:51:49 -0400 Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:08:00 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Heather if you're at the command line interface the best way to shut down is type: halt enter If you just want a reboot type: reboot enter It may all be outdated but it still works. It's what I use the rare times I ever shut down or reboot. HTH Charlie - -- ty. but...doesn't tell me if their method is right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what. Ty Femmily I also am interested in the answer. Since installing 9.1, I haven't been able to shut down without shutdown now or ctl-alt-backspace. Didn't care because shutdowns are rare here. Anyway I've used the 3 finger salute probably 30 times or so with no trauma indicated in the past year. 9.1 xfs Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:51:49 -0400 Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:08:00 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Heather if you're at the command line interface the best way to shut down is type: halt enter If you just want a reboot type: reboot enter It may all be outdated but it still works. It's what I use the rare times I ever shut down or reboot. HTH Charlie - -- ty. but...doesn't tell me if their method is right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what. Ty Femmily Irreverent, for sure. -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 01:51:48 -0400 snicks Peter Schilling lives! grin Anyways, when I've dropped out of X, I always use: shutdown -h now Don't know what others do though See ya! -- /\ DarkLord \/ whos schilling? lol I was referring to a Bowie song. heh ty Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 09:06 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to powerdown is use three finger salut. Why not use shutdown or reboot -now? Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date? ty Earth to Major Femme! Peter Schilling lives! grin Anyways, when I've dropped out of X, I always use: shutdown -h now Don't know what others do though See ya! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
You can wrote in .bash_profile alias name=command it's simple alias quit=halt alias quit2=shutdown -h now :) OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to powerdown is use three finger salut. Why not use shutdown or reboot -now? Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date? Anyways, when I've dropped out of X, I always use: shutdown -h now Don't know what others do though I always type use halt eric -- Pozdrowienia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 24, 2003 09:51 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: [..] ty. but...doesn't tell me if their method is right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what. Ty Femmily It's the same as with nearly anything in GNU/Linux Heather. There is nearly always more than one way to do anything, and the one that you use without trouble is always the right one. *For you.* For a listing of available commands try here; http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/ Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 02:13:09 up 4 days, 15:33, 1 user, load average: 0.63, 0.32, 0.28 You may my glories and my state dispose, But not my griefs; still am I king of those. -- William Shakespeare, Richard II -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/cqVWG11CaRuZZSIRArJiAKCVEhculNZ1JqZAqpDlWrEkCXuKcgCbBRI8 0VwPzqldS/EMV1+SILw3M04= =AzUR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 16:05, Eric Huff wrote: I always type use halt eric I use poweroff and reboot - they appear to work much more nicer than plug yank. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- A cousin of mine once said about money, money is always there but the pockets change; it is not in the same pockets after a change, and that is all there is to say about money. -- Gertrude Stein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:27:18 -0400 Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giant snip but...doesn't tell me if their method is right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what. Ty Femmily Irreverent, for sure. -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org I'm stoned on painkillers, tierd forgot to spellcheck. Forgive me or must I grove for that priviledge. :D Opaloid Eaters R Us (morphine is an opaloid like heroin. ;) ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:20:31 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 24, 2003 09:51 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: [..] ty. but...doesn't tell me if their method is right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what. Ty Femmily It's the same as with nearly anything in GNU/Linux Heather. There is nearly always more than one way to do anything, and the one that you use without trouble is always the right one. *For you.* For a listing of available commands try here; http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/ Regards; Charlie choice on how to shutdown your comp isn't what I'm after. Just wanna know if doing ctrl-alt-del will shut it sown cleanly... I know it doesn't do it clanly for windows. Most often that results in corrupted files. Sorry if 'm not being clear enough. Just want to make sure that command sequence won't corrupt my system files. Femme-a-whee! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:04:40 +0200 (CEST) Pawel Nozderko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can wrote in .bash_profile alias name=command it's simple alias quit=halt alias quit2=shutdown -h now :) OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to powerdown is use three finger salut. Why not use shutdown or reboot -now? Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date? Anyways, when I've dropped out of X, I always use: shutdown -h now Don't know what others do though I always type use halt eric -- Pozdrowienia WOW! you're an awesome blossom dear! TY :) Femminux Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 25, 2003 12:26 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: [..] I also am interested in the answer. Since installing 9.1, I haven't been able to shut down without shutdown now or ctl-alt-backspace. Didn't care because shutdowns are rare here. Anyway I've used the 3 finger salute probably 30 times or so with no trauma indicated in the past year. 9.1 xfs Lee The commands are not dangerous or irrelevant Lee. Your shutdown problems should improve with Canicule (9.2). I have run across a few machines running Bamboo (9.1) that will go through a shutdown cycle, but stop just short of actually powering off. I can't quite figure what's causing it since even the chipsets are different. I've never seen any harm from pushing the power button at that point anyway. One of the machines I was able to cook today is a dual processor Athlon MP 2600+ that has that same glitch in 9.1. Now that it's running a current cooker install it does what it's supposed to do. I posted a link to an online O'Reilly book that has a large alphabetical listing of commands. Most books I swear at; O'Reilly books I swear by. As for anything irreverent; that's an accurate description of yours truly. (-: Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 02:46:35 up 4 days, 16:06, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.10, 0.16 quark: The sound made by a well bred duck. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/cq+3G11CaRuZZSIRAgViAJ9A+D3317ibRUZ7rccJP1aP/LRpJACfRZvI FyhC9IQh8e25npshb5cZNn4= =3McP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 25, 2003 12:47 am, Heather/Femme wrote: [..] choice on how to shutdown your comp isn't what I'm after. Just wanna know if doing ctrl-alt-del will shut it sown cleanly... I know it doesn't do it clanly for windows. Most often that results in corrupted files. Sorry if 'm not being clear enough. Just want to make sure that command sequence won't corrupt my system files. Femme-a-whee! Oh, OK Heather. The three finger salute won't shut the machine down, just reboot it. No, it should not do any harm. If you watch the system you'll see that it will go through a normal reboot cycle using that shortcut. C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 03:06:13 up 4 days, 16:26, 1 user, load average: 0.30, 0.20, 0.12 It is impossible to experience one's death objectively and still carry a tune. -- Woody Allen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/crDFG11CaRuZZSIRAucpAJ9Z0kc9Ii94trgv8MjpIqwQC+YOIgCgrdCR n62Kh6z6SsNTD5Dnh/25RHM= =VvxE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 21:06, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:09:20 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like paper. I print out man pages, HOW-TOs, TWiki pages g and everything else that seems to help. I buy books, too. I posted a question about symlinks some time ago because I had followed the instructions in the expensive (£3O) book, and it didn't work. In fact the instructions in the FM were completely wrong, and I had been completely mislead by R'ingTFM. Snip Anne OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to powerdown is use three finger salut. Why not use shutdown or reboot -now? Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date? ty Earth to Major Femme! amount of keystrokes, as ctrl+alt+delete calls shutdown -h now Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Thursday 25 September 2003 12:01 am, Heather/Femme wrote: whos schilling? lol I was referring to a Bowie song. heh ty Femme Ah, my bad - I was thinking about Peter Schillings song Major Tom. You know, 4 3 2 1, Earth below us, drifting falling... (pardon my singing voice, its 7:11am here and I just got 2 out of 3 kids off to school!) :-) Catch ya later -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 2:06 am, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:09:20 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like paper. I print out man pages, HOW-TOs, TWiki pages g and everything else that seems to help. I buy books, too. I posted a question about symlinks some time ago because I had followed the instructions in the expensive (£3O) book, and it didn't work. In fact the instructions in the FM were completely wrong, and I had been completely mislead by R'ingTFM. Snip Anne OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to powerdown is use three finger salut. Why not use shutdown or reboot -now? Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date? Hi, Femme. Not sure I see the connection with the quote above g, but... If I want to shutdown from cli, I always use shutdown -h now (for shutdown) or shutdown -r now (for reboot). Old fashioned - I know there are some new-fangled ways to avoid typing so much g, but I feel safe knowing exactly what I have told it to do. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 2:06 am, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:09:20 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like paper. I print out man pages, HOW-TOs, TWiki pages g and everything else that seems to help. I buy books, too. I posted a question about symlinks some time ago because I had followed the instructions in the expensive (£3O) book, and it didn't work. In fact the instructions in the FM were completely wrong, and I had been completely mislead by R'ingTFM. Snip Anne OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to powerdown is use three finger salut. Why not use shutdown or reboot -now? Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date? Wake up, Anne. The connection is whether the book is telling the best way or lying. Sorry, Femme Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 7:43 am, Heather/Femme wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:27:18 -0400 Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giant snip but...doesn't tell me if their method is right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what. Ty Femmily Irreverent, for sure. -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org I'm stoned on painkillers, tierd forgot to spellcheck. Forgive me or must I grove for that priviledge. :D Opaloid Eaters R Us (morphine is an opaloid like heroin. ;) ) Hey, I never even saw it until you pointed it out - but it's a nice one g Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 03:09:25 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /Snip No, it should not do any harm. If you watch the system you'll see that it will go through a normal reboot cycle using that shortcut. C. - - ty :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 24, 2003 07:06 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: [..] OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to powerdown is use three finger salut. Why not use shutdown or reboot -now? Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date? ty Earth to Major Femme! Heather if you're at the command line interface the best way to shut down is type: halt enter If you just want a reboot type: reboot enter It may all be outdated but it still works. It's what I use the rare times I ever shut down or reboot. HTH Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 22:05:05 up 4 days, 11:24, 1 user, load average: 1.04, 1.07, 0.91 Your step will soil many countries. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/cmouG11CaRuZZSIRAgq/AKCdXbHpu7p5muO/AHvy6rCJodW9pwCfdbEc yRtqMLQNO9zLRyqXskV3sos= =RU/l -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:09:20 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like paper. I print out man pages, HOW-TOs, TWiki pages g and everything else that seems to help. I buy books, too. I posted a question about symlinks some time ago because I had followed the instructions in the expensive (£3O) book, and it didn't work. In fact the instructions in the FM were completely wrong, and I had been completely mislead by R'ingTFM. Snip Anne OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to powerdown is use three finger salut. Why not use shutdown or reboot -now? Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date? ty Earth to Major Femme! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:08:00 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Heather if you're at the command line interface the best way to shut down is type: halt enter If you just want a reboot type: reboot enter It may all be outdated but it still works. It's what I use the rare times I ever shut down or reboot. HTH Charlie - -- ty. but...doesn't tell me if their method is right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what. Ty Femmily Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com