Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Eric Huff
  OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to
  powerdown is use three finger salut.
 
  Why not use shutdown or reboot -now?
 
  Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date?

 Anyways, when I've dropped out of X, I always use:
 
 shutdown -h now
 
 Don't know what others do though

I always type use  halt

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:51:49 -0400
Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:08:00 -0600
 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
  Heather if you're at the command line interface the best way to
  shut down is type:
  
  halt enter
  
  If you just want a reboot type:
  
  reboot enter
  
  It may all be outdated but it still works. It's what I use the
  rare times I ever shut down or reboot.
  
  HTH
  Charlie
  - -- 
 
 ty.
 
 but...doesn't tell me if their method is
 right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what.
 
 Ty
 
 Femmily
 
 
I also am interested in the answer.  Since installing 9.1, I haven't
been able to shut down without shutdown now or ctl-alt-backspace.

Didn't care because shutdowns are rare here.

Anyway I've used the 3 finger salute probably 30 times or so with no
trauma indicated in the past year.

9.1  xfs

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:51:49 -0400
Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:08:00 -0600
 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
  Heather if you're at the command line interface the best way to
  shut down is type:
  
  halt enter
  
  If you just want a reboot type:
  
  reboot enter
  
  It may all be outdated but it still works. It's what I use the
  rare times I ever shut down or reboot.
  
  HTH
  Charlie
  - -- 
 
 ty.
 
 but...doesn't tell me if their method is
 right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what.
 
 Ty
 
 Femmily
 
 
Irreverent, for sure.

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Heather/Femme
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 01:51:48 -0400
snicks
 Peter Schilling lives! grin
 
 Anyways, when I've dropped out of X, I always use:
 
 shutdown -h now
 
 Don't know what others do though
 
 See ya!
 
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 whos schilling? lol

I was referring to a Bowie song.

heh

ty
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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 09:06 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:

 OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to
 powerdown is use three finger salut.

 Why not use shutdown or reboot -now?

 Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date?

 ty

 Earth to Major Femme!

Peter Schilling lives! grin

Anyways, when I've dropped out of X, I always use:

shutdown -h now

Don't know what others do though

See ya!

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Pawel Nozderko
You can wrote in .bash_profile
alias name=command
it's simple 
alias quit=halt
alias quit2=shutdown -h now
:)
   OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to
   powerdown is use three finger salut.
  
   Why not use shutdown or reboot -now?
  
   Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date?
 
  Anyways, when I've dropped out of X, I always use:
  
  shutdown -h now
  
  Don't know what others do though
 
 I always type use  halt
 
 eric
 
 

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Charlie M.
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September 24, 2003 09:51 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
[..]
 ty.

 but...doesn't tell me if their method is
 right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what.

 Ty

 Femmily

It's the same as with nearly anything in GNU/Linux Heather. There is nearly 
always more than one way to do anything, and the one that you use without 
trouble is always the right one. 

*For you.*

For a listing of available commands try here;

http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 16:05, Eric Huff wrote:

 I always type use  halt
 
 eric

I use poweroff and reboot - they appear to work much more nicer than
plug yank.

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Heather/Femme
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:27:18 -0400
Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Giant snip
  
  but...doesn't tell me if their method is
  right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what.
  
  Ty
  
  Femmily
  
  
 Irreverent, for sure.
 
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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Heather/Femme
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:20:31 -0600
Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 September 24, 2003 09:51 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 [..]
  ty.
 
  but...doesn't tell me if their method is
  right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what.
 
  Ty
 
  Femmily
 
 It's the same as with nearly anything in GNU/Linux Heather. There is
 nearly always more than one way to do anything, and the one that you
 use without trouble is always the right one. 
 
 *For you.*
 
 For a listing of available commands try here;
 
 http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/
 
 Regards;
 Charlie

choice on how to shutdown your comp isn't what I'm after.  Just wanna
know if doing ctrl-alt-del will shut it sown cleanly... I know it
doesn't do it clanly for windows.  Most often that results in corrupted
files.  Sorry if 'm not being clear enough.  Just want to make sure that
command sequence won't corrupt my system files.

Femme-a-whee!

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Heather/Femme
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:04:40 +0200 (CEST)
Pawel Nozderko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can wrote in .bash_profile
 alias name=command
 it's simple 
 alias quit=halt
 alias quit2=shutdown -h now
 :)
OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to
powerdown is use three finger salut.
   
Why not use shutdown or reboot -now?
   
Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date?
  
   Anyways, when I've dropped out of X, I always use:
   
   shutdown -h now
   
   Don't know what others do though
  
  I always type use  halt
  
  eric
  
  
 
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WOW!  you're an awesome blossom dear!

TY :)

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Charlie M.
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September 25, 2003 12:26 am, Lee Wiggers wrote:
[..]

 I also am interested in the answer.  Since installing 9.1, I haven't
 been able to shut down without shutdown now or ctl-alt-backspace.

 Didn't care because shutdowns are rare here.

 Anyway I've used the 3 finger salute probably 30 times or so with no
 trauma indicated in the past year.

 9.1  xfs

 Lee

The commands are not dangerous or irrelevant Lee. Your shutdown problems 
should improve with Canicule (9.2). I have run across a few machines running 
Bamboo (9.1) that will go through a shutdown cycle, but stop just short of 
actually powering off. I can't quite figure what's causing it since even the 
chipsets are different. I've never seen any harm from pushing the power 
button at that point anyway. 

One of the machines I was able to cook today is a dual processor Athlon MP 
2600+ that has that same glitch in 9.1. Now that it's running a current 
cooker install it does what it's supposed to do.

I posted a link to an online O'Reilly book that has a large alphabetical 
listing of commands. Most books I swear at; O'Reilly books I swear by.

As for anything irreverent; that's an accurate description of yours truly. (-:

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Charlie M.
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September 25, 2003 12:47 am, Heather/Femme wrote:
[..]
 choice on how to shutdown your comp isn't what I'm after.  Just wanna
 know if doing ctrl-alt-del will shut it sown cleanly... I know it
 doesn't do it clanly for windows.  Most often that results in corrupted
 files.  Sorry if 'm not being clear enough.  Just want to make sure that
 command sequence won't corrupt my system files.

 Femme-a-whee!

Oh, OK Heather. The three finger salute won't shut the machine down, just 
reboot it.

No, it should not do any harm. If you watch the system you'll see that it will 
go through a normal reboot cycle using that shortcut.

C.
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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread ed tharp
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 21:06, Heather/Femme wrote:
 On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:09:20 +0100
 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I like paper.  I print out man pages, HOW-TOs, TWiki pages g and 
  everything else that seems to help.  I buy books, too.  I posted a 
  question about symlinks some time ago because I had followed the 
  instructions in the expensive (£3O) book, and it didn't work.  In 
  fact the instructions in the FM were completely wrong, and I had been 
  completely mislead by R'ingTFM.
 Snip 
  Anne
  
 
 OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to
 powerdown is use three finger salut.
 
 Why not use shutdown or reboot -now?
 
 Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date?
 
 ty
 
 Earth to Major Femme!
 
amount of keystrokes, as ctrl+alt+delete calls shutdown -h now


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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 25 September 2003 12:01 am, Heather/Femme wrote:

  whos schilling? lol

 I was referring to a Bowie song.

 heh

 ty
 Femme

Ah, my bad - I was thinking about Peter Schillings song Major Tom.

You know, 4 3 2 1, Earth below us, drifting falling... (pardon my singing 
voice, its 7:11am here and I just got 2 out of 3 kids off to school!)   :-)

Catch ya later

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 2:06 am, Heather/Femme wrote:
 On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:09:20 +0100

 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I like paper.  I print out man pages, HOW-TOs, TWiki pages g
  and everything else that seems to help.  I buy books, too.  I
  posted a question about symlinks some time ago because I had
  followed the instructions in the expensive (£3O) book, and it
  didn't work.  In fact the instructions in the FM were completely
  wrong, and I had been completely mislead by R'ingTFM.

 Snip

  Anne

 OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to
 powerdown is use three finger salut.

 Why not use shutdown or reboot -now?

 Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date?

Hi, Femme.  Not sure I see the connection with the quote above g, 
but...

If I want to shutdown from cli, I always use 

shutdown -h now (for shutdown) or
shutdown -r now (for reboot).

Old fashioned - I know there are some new-fangled ways to avoid typing 
so much g, but I feel safe knowing exactly what I have told it to 
do.

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 2:06 am, Heather/Femme wrote:
 On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:09:20 +0100

 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I like paper.  I print out man pages, HOW-TOs, TWiki pages g
  and everything else that seems to help.  I buy books, too.  I
  posted a question about symlinks some time ago because I had
  followed the instructions in the expensive (£3O) book, and it
  didn't work.  In fact the instructions in the FM were completely
  wrong, and I had been completely mislead by R'ingTFM.

 Snip

  Anne

 OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to
 powerdown is use three finger salut.

 Why not use shutdown or reboot -now?

 Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date?

Wake up, Anne.  The connection is whether the book is telling the best 
way or lying.  Sorry, Femme

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 7:43 am, Heather/Femme wrote:
 On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:27:18 -0400
 Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Giant snip

   but...doesn't tell me if their method is
   right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what.
  
   Ty
  
   Femmily
 
  Irreverent, for sure.
 
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Hey, I never even saw it until you pointed it out - but it's a nice 
one g

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-25 Thread Heather/Femme
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 03:09:25 -0600
Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
/Snip
 
 No, it should not do any harm. If you watch the system you'll see that
 it will go through a normal reboot cycle using that shortcut.
 
 C.
 - -
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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-24 Thread Charlie M.
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September 24, 2003 07:06 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
[..]
 OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to
 powerdown is use three finger salut.

 Why not use shutdown or reboot -now?

 Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date?

 ty

 Earth to Major Femme!

Heather if you're at the command line interface the best way to shut down is 
type:

halt enter

If you just want a reboot type:

reboot enter

It may all be outdated but it still works. It's what I use the rare times I 
ever shut down or reboot.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-24 Thread Heather/Femme
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:09:20 +0100
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like paper.  I print out man pages, HOW-TOs, TWiki pages g and 
 everything else that seems to help.  I buy books, too.  I posted a 
 question about symlinks some time ago because I had followed the 
 instructions in the expensive (£3O) book, and it didn't work.  In 
 fact the instructions in the FM were completely wrong, and I had been 
 completely mislead by R'ingTFM.
Snip 
 Anne
 

OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to
powerdown is use three finger salut.

Why not use shutdown or reboot -now?

Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date?

ty

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Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT hijack..sorry!

2003-09-24 Thread Heather/Femme
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:08:00 -0600
Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Heather if you're at the command line interface the best way to shut
 down is type:
 
 halt enter
 
 If you just want a reboot type:
 
 reboot enter
 
 It may all be outdated but it still works. It's what I use the rare
 times I ever shut down or reboot.
 
 HTH
 Charlie
 - -- 

ty.

but...doesn't tell me if their method is
right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what.

Ty

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