Re: [newbie] Re: Michaels Minutes (WAY OT)

2002-04-05 Thread john rigby

Ha folks,
Well, the awful truth is that if it simply plugs in and
works..
Years ago my own Technicians used to go into major installations and avoid
the what's the password routine by looking on the side of the monitor or
the deskpad, first. Amazing how many times it was there.

Shane is correct even in jest - I STILL haven't had the chance to even see
if I could install the RPM - never had a working User System.  AND unless it
does simply Pn'P, it is a dud.

Constantly read of semi-Geeks (at least) saying how a simple
install/upgrade broke their previously working system, on this very list.

Remember, this is a marketing exercise, not a hobby one for Michael.
 Although I seriously doubt from what I've seen so far that he really gets
it, either)

Cheers,

John

- Original Message -
From: shane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Michaels Minutes (WAY OT)


 On Thursday 04 April 2002 03:45 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan opened a hailing
 frequency and transmitted:

  Does anybody seriously think this will be a good thing for Linux and
free
  software? I most certainly don't. Why pay US$99 when you can get
  CodeWeavers CrossOver Office for $54.95, which you can install on

 mostly because the average person won't be able to install an RPM of
 codeweavers.  just ask john.  ;-)

  root password. All we need are a few easily-written exploit scripts for
  this poor excuse of an OS and open source as a whole (not just Lindows)
  will be given a bad name. GNU/Linux virii will become a widespread
  reality (on Lindows, that is), fueling opposition to open source.


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Re: [newbie] Re: Michaels Minutes (WAY OT)

2002-04-04 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 19:12:55 +1200, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sheesh couldnt you have just posted the bleeding link... what a waste of
 bandwidth. Two minutes at the website gave me:
 
 http://www.lindows.com/lindows_michaelsminutes.php

I'm probably going to ruffle a few feathers here but I think it needs to be
said.

Does anybody seriously think this will be a good thing for Linux and free
software? I most certainly don't. Why pay US$99 when you can get CodeWeavers
CrossOver Office for $54.95, which you can install on virtually any modern
distro? CodeWeavers give all of their code back to the community, while Lindows
don't. Lindows is highly insecure: everything runs as root and users are even
discouraged from creating a root password. All we need are a few easily-written
exploit scripts for this poor excuse of an OS and open source as a whole (not
just Lindows) will be given a bad name. GNU/Linux virii will become a widespread
reality (on Lindows, that is), fueling opposition to open source. Antivirus and
security companies will jump on this. People will be duped by their FUD-laden
advertising and will pay big bucks for software they don't even need. I can see
this becoming some sort of vicious cycle.

Until Lindows gains some decent security I shall continue to wish for it to
suffer a horrible, horrible death.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody.
-- Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux



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AW: [newbie] Re: Michaels Minutes (WAY OT)

2002-04-04 Thread - addy däudsch -

let them try it , let them suffer i say ...

there are alot of m§ widooze user in this world , they suffer every day
w/ their 'great' os ...
let lindows be the same ... i think OSD will distant themself for sure
from lindows in this case

 - keep the X in your system -

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Sridhar
Dhanapalan
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. April 2002 09:45
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [newbie] Re: Michaels Minutes (WAY OT)


On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 19:12:55 +1200, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Sheesh couldnt you have just posted the bleeding link... what a waste 
 of bandwidth. Two minutes at the website gave me:
 
 http://www.lindows.com/lindows_michaelsminutes.php

I'm probably going to ruffle a few feathers here but I think it needs to
be said.

Does anybody seriously think this will be a good thing for Linux and
free software? I most certainly don't. Why pay US$99 when you can get
CodeWeavers CrossOver Office for $54.95, which you can install on
virtually any modern distro? CodeWeavers give all of their code back to
the community, while Lindows don't. Lindows is highly insecure:
everything runs as root and users are even discouraged from creating a
root password. All we need are a few easily-written exploit scripts for
this poor excuse of an OS and open source as a whole (not just Lindows)
will be given a bad name. GNU/Linux virii will become a widespread
reality (on Lindows, that is), fueling opposition to open source.
Antivirus and security companies will jump on this. People will be duped
by their FUD-laden advertising and will pay big bucks for software they
don't even need. I can see this becoming some sort of vicious cycle.

Until Lindows gains some decent security I shall continue to wish for it
to suffer a horrible, horrible death.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody.
-- Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for
Linux





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Re: [newbie] Re: Michaels Minutes (WAY OT)

2002-04-04 Thread shane

On Thursday 04 April 2002 03:45 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan opened a hailing 
frequency and transmitted:

 Does anybody seriously think this will be a good thing for Linux and free
 software? I most certainly don't. Why pay US$99 when you can get
 CodeWeavers CrossOver Office for $54.95, which you can install on

mostly because the average person won't be able to install an RPM of 
codeweavers.  just ask john.  ;-)

 root password. All we need are a few easily-written exploit scripts for
 this poor excuse of an OS and open source as a whole (not just Lindows)
 will be given a bad name. GNU/Linux virii will become a widespread
 reality (on Lindows, that is), fueling opposition to open source.

i say mandrake should write a windows emulation layer in 9.0.  it should 
be easy, when turned on it will choose a random amount of time between 1 
minute and 4 hours, after which it will reboot without warning.  a plugin 
could be made to randomly delete a file after displaying a virus message 
every (random number) of email downloads.

lets start taking windows compatability seriously!

-- 
Computers are like air conditioners they stop working properly if you open 
windows.

shane
Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html
Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98
Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/
Registered linux user #101606  http://counter.li.org/



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[newbie] Re: Michaels Minutes (WAY OT)

2002-04-03 Thread Michael

Sheesh couldnt you have just posted the bleeding link... what a waste of
bandwidth. Two minutes at the website gave me:

http://www.lindows.com/lindows_michaelsminutes.php

Not all of us are interested in this you know! After all, it is just someone
elses propaganda. You get another life, but try this again and all your emails
get straight in my trash.

Man i have had an a-hole day. And i should really apologise cause you catch the
brunt of it but what a dumb move.

/. /. /. /.

Michael 

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All the passengers carry their seats out onto the tarmac, placing the chairs
in the outline of a plane. They all sit down, flap their arms and make jet
swooshing sounds as if they are flying.



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